I would be surprised if health data is moving from the NHS to google. I suspect that the NHS has hired google to provide them with a utility in exactly the same way health and government departments hire IBM.
So what is in it for Google? A bit fat government cheque. Thats what.
I suggest that this is already monetised. The NHS has identified that they are losing patients to AKI that they didn't need to. That if they had identified them sooner the person would have survived. This reads to me as google selling a service, not different to IBM. We will build a data-management system and app for you to fix this particular problem. To do that pay us $xxx millions.
I don't see anything that implies that the health record data will go from the NHS to Google.
Ok from the deepmind website it looks like it is an interface to health records. Hark, the company they bought, looks to be building an app that lets doctors review patient information on a phone or tablet rather than using paper. And, reading through the spin, I believe they are creating a system which will alert doctors when a patient's lab results point to acute kidney failure.
“Using Streams meant I was able to review blood tests for patients at risk of AKI within seconds of them becoming available. I intervened earlier and was able to improve the care of over half the patients Streams identified in our pilot studies.”
Ok. I've read a couple of your posts now. I have no idea what you think copyright extends to, but talking to someone is not one of them. If you have a confidentiality agreement on your employment that is another thing entirely.
Seriously I deal with significant money contracts every single day. An email acknowledgement is more than enough contract to go on. Get your ex-boss to ok the release. If he says no, then you drop it. If he says yes, then you are good. If he changes his mind you have the email trail.
I lived in the UK for a long time and Australia is a million times less of a sex and drug culture than the there. I think though it depends as much on the lifestyle choices of the parents than anything else.
Will just have to wait and see. Honestly I am more concerned about body image issues than alcohol and drugs currently. My 5 year old girl has started noticing fat and thin and has started saying it's better to be thin and I never want to be fat. Breaks my heart to hear her talking like that.
I haven't been to Canada yet. I'm headed there March next year for the first time. It seems to be really popular.
I live 25km outside Brisbane city on acreage so I get all the amenities of a big city while still having a semi-rural lifestyle. The big decider for me was the safety. I have two young kids and I feel I can let them roam here without being paranoid something is going to happen to them. That and it's blue skies and 29c right now.
4 cities in the top 10 according to your link - Melbourne, Sydney, Perth & Adelaide. Interesting though as I would have put Brisbane ahead of some of those, especially Perth & Adelaide.
If you were firing these would they not leave a material trail in the air pointing straight at your location? I can't imagine that that is a particularly desirable outcome...
Police use hollow points for one simple reason. It is so that if it comes out of the back of the person they shot it isn't going to kill someone behind them.
But isn't Ubuntu just a derivative of Debian? They probably use 80%+ pure Debian in their releases so you could argue why don't they just partner with Debian instead of rolling their own.
I also could be biased though as Mint is my distro of choice. I prefer its interface and how it works to every other distro I have used. As for the comments in the article it feels to me more that he has an axe to grind because he doesn't agree with how mint is structured. He talks about why not partner with cannonical and become a Cbuntu. But if they did that they stop be able to brand differentiate and will essentially disappear in short order. Longer term I expect that mint will start to role its own packages as it gets more and more popular.
The other thing is that mint and ubuntu have different goals and design principals. The user interface of mint is extremely stable. I run one machine with mint 13 on it and one with the latest shiny on it. You can move from one to another with almost no change to work flow.
Finally I question his other assertion that because of blacklisting packages or not upgrading kernels in place the machine is inherently more prone to security issues. The whole concept of the LTS releases of ubuntu is that they receive long term updates for security. I doubt very much that there will be a blacklisted package upgrade in mint which has security implications. That is the sort of package upgrade that they would make work. There is no question that you may not be running the latest version of every piece of software but that isn't unique to mint. If you run an LTS version of Ubuntu you won't be running the latest versions of the same software.
Well they also have a debian edition and there was some discussion a while ago, no idea if it is still happening, of shifting their base from Ubuntu to debian.
2025, boardroom of a start-up company looking on where to invest, where to find customers, and where to set up offices:
Chris: Hey Jo, I've been looking at our European customer base. We haven't really been targeting them but there seems to be a lot of interest. You think we should look into setting up offices there?
Jo: Really, we should have been doing it earlier. If we don't get a significant percentage of the worlds population using our system we can be too easily displaced.
Chris: You know tax rates are higher there don't you?
Jo: Yeah they are. But if we don't try to avoid taxes in those regions we can easily budget for them. Of course we could do what Google did and walk the grey line and then negotiate hard when they come after us.
Chris: Hmmmm I'll give that some thought. It could be good to have the extra cash early but we will need to budget for settlements and the risk associated with that.
There is NO WAY that an international company will ignore the second largest consumer population block in the world. None. Not a chance. Christ companies bend over backwards to operate in China and the Eurozone is bigger financially in total.
Your numbers are out more than just a little.... Google took in 74.15 billion in revenue in 2015. France isn't looking for 10% of Google's revenue. They are looking for back taxes over the period in which Google operated in France which looks to have averaged 1.2 billion euro over the past 5 years.
Perhaps if you listened to the song "Hotel California" and applied comprehension above that of middle school you would understand there was no implication that you were American in his comment.
That is one way to look at it. The other is it has just allowed them to put more customers on the same pipe without them complaining about slow speeds and contention issues.
I have travelled extensively and lived in multiple countries. I choose to live in Australia because it offers the best lifestyle for me. It is safe, rich, clean, good climate and has lots of opportunities to succeed.
You didn't hear about it because it is a non-issue, not because of people not being interested, but because anything put forward by the greens or the independents in the senate is a non-issue. It's not even about the major parties keeping this below the radar, this is about as news worthy as a greens senator saying "From now on all t-shirts must be blue" and having that voted down.
This is solely and purely a political stunt by the greens to try and get some air time in the run up to the election later this year.
A greens senator attempts to grandstand off the back of the FBI vs Apple story in the US to put forward a nothing puff piece that doesn't have any legislation or thought behind it and rather surprisingly the parties in power look at him and so oh go fuck off and waste someone else's time. If they hadn't then this non existent idea would have gone to the house of reps and they would have said "what the hell is this? There is nothing here to vote on, no legislation, no laws, nothing. Why am I looking at this?"
There was absolutely no way this was going to be passed by the senate and should be seen for the political crap that it is.
Note that this isn't an endorsement of mandatory data retention, which I oppose, or support for the FBI over apple. I just abhor political stunts like this that are then held up to mean something when they don't.
I assume that it would be either an opt in or an opt out system offered as a service to customers. Also net neutrality doesn't seem to be a flashpoint outside of the US. In Aus for example bit torrent is often throttled and a large number of services are offered as quota free content. No one seems to bat an eye lid about that here.
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I would be surprised if health data is moving from the NHS to google. I suspect that the NHS has hired google to provide them with a utility in exactly the same way health and government departments hire IBM.
So what is in it for Google? A bit fat government cheque. Thats what.
I suggest that this is already monetised. The NHS has identified that they are losing patients to AKI that they didn't need to. That if they had identified them sooner the person would have survived. This reads to me as google selling a service, not different to IBM. We will build a data-management system and app for you to fix this particular problem. To do that pay us $xxx millions.
I don't see anything that implies that the health record data will go from the NHS to Google.
Ok from the deepmind website it looks like it is an interface to health records. Hark, the company they bought, looks to be building an app that lets doctors review patient information on a phone or tablet rather than using paper. And, reading through the spin, I believe they are creating a system which will alert doctors when a patient's lab results point to acute kidney failure.
“Using Streams meant I was able to review blood tests for patients at risk of AKI within seconds of them becoming available. I intervened earlier and was able to improve the care of over half the patients Streams identified in our pilot studies.”
Ok. I've read a couple of your posts now. I have no idea what you think copyright extends to, but talking to someone is not one of them. If you have a confidentiality agreement on your employment that is another thing entirely.
Seriously I deal with significant money contracts every single day. An email acknowledgement is more than enough contract to go on. Get your ex-boss to ok the release. If he says no, then you drop it. If he says yes, then you are good. If he changes his mind you have the email trail.
Just get him to email you the ok. Seriously things don't need to be triple signed and witnessed in blood.
I lived in the UK for a long time and Australia is a million times less of a sex and drug culture than the there. I think though it depends as much on the lifestyle choices of the parents than anything else.
Will just have to wait and see. Honestly I am more concerned about body image issues than alcohol and drugs currently. My 5 year old girl has started noticing fat and thin and has started saying it's better to be thin and I never want to be fat. Breaks my heart to hear her talking like that.
I haven't been to Canada yet. I'm headed there March next year for the first time. It seems to be really popular.
I live 25km outside Brisbane city on acreage so I get all the amenities of a big city while still having a semi-rural lifestyle. The big decider for me was the safety. I have two young kids and I feel I can let them roam here without being paranoid something is going to happen to them. That and it's blue skies and 29c right now.
Mint Debian.
Better than what came to my mind first.... C....untu....
4 cities in the top 10 according to your link - Melbourne, Sydney, Perth & Adelaide. Interesting though as I would have put Brisbane ahead of some of those, especially Perth & Adelaide.
If you were firing these would they not leave a material trail in the air pointing straight at your location? I can't imagine that that is a particularly desirable outcome...
Police use hollow points for one simple reason. It is so that if it comes out of the back of the person they shot it isn't going to kill someone behind them.
But isn't Ubuntu just a derivative of Debian? They probably use 80%+ pure Debian in their releases so you could argue why don't they just partner with Debian instead of rolling their own.
I also could be biased though as Mint is my distro of choice. I prefer its interface and how it works to every other distro I have used. As for the comments in the article it feels to me more that he has an axe to grind because he doesn't agree with how mint is structured. He talks about why not partner with cannonical and become a Cbuntu. But if they did that they stop be able to brand differentiate and will essentially disappear in short order. Longer term I expect that mint will start to role its own packages as it gets more and more popular.
The other thing is that mint and ubuntu have different goals and design principals. The user interface of mint is extremely stable. I run one machine with mint 13 on it and one with the latest shiny on it. You can move from one to another with almost no change to work flow.
Finally I question his other assertion that because of blacklisting packages or not upgrading kernels in place the machine is inherently more prone to security issues. The whole concept of the LTS releases of ubuntu is that they receive long term updates for security. I doubt very much that there will be a blacklisted package upgrade in mint which has security implications. That is the sort of package upgrade that they would make work. There is no question that you may not be running the latest version of every piece of software but that isn't unique to mint. If you run an LTS version of Ubuntu you won't be running the latest versions of the same software.
Well they also have a debian edition and there was some discussion a while ago, no idea if it is still happening, of shifting their base from Ubuntu to debian.
Please tell me you are joking.
2025, boardroom of a start-up company looking on where to invest, where to find customers, and where to set up offices:
Chris: Hey Jo, I've been looking at our European customer base. We haven't really been targeting them but there seems to be a lot of interest. You think we should look into setting up offices there?
Jo: Really, we should have been doing it earlier. If we don't get a significant percentage of the worlds population using our system we can be too easily displaced.
Chris: You know tax rates are higher there don't you?
Jo: Yeah they are. But if we don't try to avoid taxes in those regions we can easily budget for them. Of course we could do what Google did and walk the grey line and then negotiate hard when they come after us.
Chris: Hmmmm I'll give that some thought. It could be good to have the extra cash early but we will need to budget for settlements and the risk associated with that.
There is NO WAY that an international company will ignore the second largest consumer population block in the world. None. Not a chance. Christ companies bend over backwards to operate in China and the Eurozone is bigger financially in total.
Your numbers are out more than just a little.... Google took in 74.15 billion in revenue in 2015. France isn't looking for 10% of Google's revenue. They are looking for back taxes over the period in which Google operated in France which looks to have averaged 1.2 billion euro over the past 5 years.
There was no debate. None. What so ever. A minor party figure got up and went on a rant and then said "I call upon you to vote on my rant".
The independents also voted for it so that they wouldn't be seen to be part of the major parties.
None of what you have said I disagree with, but it is also not relevant to what occurred.
Perhaps if you listened to the song "Hotel California" and applied comprehension above that of middle school you would understand there was no implication that you were American in his comment.
That is one way to look at it. The other is it has just allowed them to put more customers on the same pipe without them complaining about slow speeds and contention issues.
Have you been here?
I have travelled extensively and lived in multiple countries. I choose to live in Australia because it offers the best lifestyle for me. It is safe, rich, clean, good climate and has lots of opportunities to succeed.
You didn't hear about it because it is a non-issue, not because of people not being interested, but because anything put forward by the greens or the independents in the senate is a non-issue. It's not even about the major parties keeping this below the radar, this is about as news worthy as a greens senator saying "From now on all t-shirts must be blue" and having that voted down.
This is solely and purely a political stunt by the greens to try and get some air time in the run up to the election later this year.
A greens senator attempts to grandstand off the back of the FBI vs Apple story in the US to put forward a nothing puff piece that doesn't have any legislation or thought behind it and rather surprisingly the parties in power look at him and so oh go fuck off and waste someone else's time. If they hadn't then this non existent idea would have gone to the house of reps and they would have said "what the hell is this? There is nothing here to vote on, no legislation, no laws, nothing. Why am I looking at this?"
There was absolutely no way this was going to be passed by the senate and should be seen for the political crap that it is.
Note that this isn't an endorsement of mandatory data retention, which I oppose, or support for the FBI over apple. I just abhor political stunts like this that are then held up to mean something when they don't.
There is no doubt that you are already subject to ISP level filtering. Be it for government block lists or to prevent network abuse.
I assume that it would be either an opt in or an opt out system offered as a service to customers. Also net neutrality doesn't seem to be a flashpoint outside of the US. In Aus for example bit torrent is often throttled and a large number of services are offered as quota free content. No one seems to bat an eye lid about that here.