"nothing gets done by commitee" == "let me be boss man"... a group of minds working together (rather than infighting) is recombinantly more powerful than a single mind. This anti-commitee idea is just for people that do not know how to cooperate and value opinions of others separate from agreeing with others. It's the same false bian that makes people think the Corporate world is more efficient than the Government, which is laughable!
I think what would happen if one of them came to dominate (in the Baby Bill scenario) is that you would find the Windows 9X source code open or free, or so cheap Sun would buy it. In other words, the three companies would have reason to operate with a certain amount of parity if their models required not opening the OS portion of their wares. The other nice thing is vertical integrated solutions are known to be stable! They can be bloated, they have problems, they can get behind the times, and MS has made everyone forget that the seamless quality can come from vertical integration (like making your App and the OS it runs best on). MS might not be making a good case that there is quality in that arrangement, but there is (however you spend that potential quality or other things is up to you), and to set this kind of a precedent is to let law dictate software layer. On the other hand, splitting them in like companies just means they can't use monopoly deals, and have to get a market based price for Windows. Other than that the stock holders, should one company lose business to the other, recover in the one stock what they lost on the other.
I see splitting these two companies as a way to try to kill Windows. Because that's the main thing about like companies, it would probably help establish Windows as the real OS standard for desktops far into the future. But let's face facts... that's the natural part of this monopoly, like it or not, the way it is anyway. People seemed to want win.exe, it was the MS-DOS market that was illegally monopolized using that application.
as an oldtimer (30's!) I can tell you that it looks like the momentum of an OS never goes away naturally. Killing windows is unlikely. There are ordinary people out there with 10 years of Windows "knowledge" that doesn't map anywhere else. You have to preserve their knowledge, no matter what, it's about them, not the technology, from where they sit. -pyrrho
Once we got flooded by a guy who considered our newsletter spam. The problem... he had signed up for the newletter when we had a different name. As a streaming service, his attack didn't affect our users, such was our excess bandwidth. We considered flooding him back but there was no real chance of that. Instead, we found the ISP it was coming from, found out the name of the user (forget how, but I think it was IP comparison with our user logs, since the guy was registered) called the ISP and said, "you have a user, John Doe, that's flooding us." They misunderstood and said, "I'll connect you..." Turn's out John Doe was their sys admin! He was very polite on the phone and apologized proffusly, and it's a case where I think he may be less inclined to abuse his resources (and maybe put their actual value in perspective too).
This is probably not as funny to read as it was to experience. The relevant fact may be that we might have hacked back at this guy, but only because he was so pathetic as to just be abusing his privs at a tiny ISP. The real hackers can't be traced back in three minutes and if they can... well that's probably not the real person. If you can trace them fast enough to attack them... start calling. Hack them with the real world, where they are disoriented...:) -pyrrho
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A degree guarentees the people hiring you that you know what you say you know. It's that simple. ROFLMAO. Running compiled code is how you know that...
I thought the same thing regarding his take on what the free software was supposed to mean to him and the company he works for. They waited! To make a project on opensource vaporware is to make your own trouble. You have two choices... 1) only start with things that are a known quanity, you can see what you get and start from, don't expect anything you don't already get or can build on yourself. or, 2) no, that's the only choice. -pyrrho
it makes the priority clear. unlike most corporate work in which the fear of unspoken criteria is always yeilding random result, the shuttle program is sure of it's priorities. Of course, it means nothing to someone who signs such a thing without caring. I'm sure someone loves to point out that it hasn't stopped the shuttle itself from problems. But still, the answer is, the black magic is that it makes the priority clearly communicated and acknowledged as communicated.
depending on whatever they put inbetween the posts, it's most likely they are right and can use all your posts as fair use. Maybe you should give them the benefit of the doubt. Sometimes "bending to pressure" is the same thing as "listening". I didn't post to those threads but was disenheartened to see slashdot using them when they do specifically say you own your posts. that's not a legal issue however. -pyrrho
RMS doesn't want you to work for free. Get real. In this free software model people that need custom software pay people to start with an open project and customize it. Because of GPL, the new code is still open. And so forth. The programmers are still paid. Of course, you get paid for programming more than what you've already programmed... but even that isn't entirely true, as there are ways to continue to make money from using your own code for it's natural business'.
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you are welcome to your tastes, of course, naturally, but for explanation. in games like this you don't pretend to be the little character. You pretend to be god, controller of everything. You break up relationship, or put then together, you run everything. It's an I'm-god pretend thing, so in reality it's no more healthy than destroying imaginary things. Um, I like both.
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fool! Sim city wasn't made by EA, it was made by Maxis who wasn't a part of EA then!
I became a programmer before we knew about the money and the hot grits girls! Imagine my luck... I might have been a rock star or something instead! -pyrrho
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my god. you are right! this is the confliction with hacker laws! As a long shot, this might be a way to require open source as de facto full disclosure, because otherwise patches might have to have full disclosure of all features (even undiscovered bugs). This is no difference from a feature patch than might introduce a security flaw in a productivity app. Don't get me wrong, I think that the artist (maxis) has the right to do this in the game world they're creating, but if it destroys hours of work, it does fall under these laws! and the point is the flaw that implies in the law. -pyrrho
you bring in an interesting question. I think the answer will be that most people will be far more cruel than they are in reality. Look, the sims site itself talks about marrying rich sims and killing them (for example by putting them in the pool and then removing the ladder). That would seem a little needlessly cruel, why not just publish the money cheat tho if they want people to get money outside the real parameters of the game. (shift-ctrl-c then type "klapaucius", doesn't work with 1.1). Ok, it may not really be cruel, it's only pretending to be cruel. But why? Like this poster mentions, with the costs of kindness less, why not pretend to be less cruel rather than more. -craig
what, does he think he's god? just kidding... isn't he? Thank god I lost that plugin when my laptop died! where is the sim dog with rabies they've been promissing (not really, but wait!) -craig
I've seen keyboards that did a little of this, badly and expensively, but you could make a cheap one right now! do it... you'll get rich, it's a good point. Keyboards where the keys or at least the Fkeys could be labled would double or triple the effectiveness of even current (i.e.badly designed) interfaces.
1) Engineers have found their code stolen from them, projects that they were working thrown out, or just gerally mishandled by suits and $. That's code they sweated over owned by others. I think many coders love their code... they don't want to be cut off... they rationalize that they were just going to have to throw it out anyway and make a better system, but they mean burn a CD and look at it when they are old. I want to die in a pile of every line of code I've ever written. Um... a long time from now. 2) I went open source because there is a lot of expense forcing people to sign NDAs, a lot of hand holding. Friction and costs. So opensourcing is like taking your investment in development and spending it directly on marketing, which dollar for dollar shows how cheap it really is to open source. 3) What am I, a jerk? I love to use the open tools. I used two cool libraries and if IBM and colloseum builders can give cool tools away, then gee, I can too. Like a Hobbesean social conscious, I do it not from altruism, but because it feels good (aka hedonism). 4) And the point, $$ wise, is clearly, heat the industry and then bask in the glow of a, um, warm industry! cba@xmlskin.com
If you used a licensed program (program that paid unisys' licensing fee, I mean, not "non-pirated") to create the GIF, you are fine. I assume accuweather is creating GIFs on the fly from a CGI script.
nope, they make you pay for distributing GIFs made with programs whose authors have paid the license. What an optimist! But PNG is supported everywhere, with press like this there is no way the great sucking noise can make it to 2003... can it?
It's probably good if only because a company like Unisys is always going to suck the blood from a luck out standard like this. So it's only value is to show how corporations are crazy to have warm fuzzies about proprietary technologies... especially these kinds of patents where you still have to write the software yourself anyway! cushy!
if we could make computers on the molecular scale, wouldn't we by definition be able to recreate the brain's complexity? Isn't that how the brain is made, using quantum computing nanomachines? yeah yeah, different type of design. sure.
It's clear that Bill Gates just wasn't satisfied being geek king, he must have been more comfortable when geeks were outcast! So now he is the outcast among geeks, ungeek... RALPH REED? Good lord... doesn't Microsoft have domestic partner and all sorts of liberal policies, I mean compared to the Christian Coalition. This is the boy, er, man, that make the Christian Coalition a political force an not -just- the viewing audience of a bunch of crazy whack jobs. Nothing personal, "crazy whack job" is not nec. a bad thing...
a crime is not merely obnoxious. to say that his crime is being obnoxious is to confuse the point... there isn't any reason you couldn't be put in jail for fraud. but I'm not saying he actually could be. I agree with the others on the nature of these crimes. However, you guys... you CAN be put in jail for antitrust, it just never happens. But that's because it always is like, "ooops, slipped up and broke the antitrust laws... sorry" and the company pays. If, however, there was ever proof of an executive "let's violate those antitrust laws... I love doing that" and then was found guilty of a violation... I think you can send them to jail for overt violations just as with other crimes.
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"nothing gets done by commitee" == "let me be boss man"... a group of minds working together (rather than infighting) is recombinantly more powerful than a single mind. This anti-commitee idea is just for people that do not know how to cooperate and value opinions of others separate from agreeing with others. It's the same false bian that makes people think the Corporate world is more efficient than the Government, which is laughable!
it's the protocol.
I see splitting these two companies as a way to try to kill Windows. Because that's the main thing about like companies, it would probably help establish Windows as the real OS standard for desktops far into the future. But let's face facts... that's the natural part of this monopoly, like it or not, the way it is anyway. People seemed to want win.exe, it was the MS-DOS market that was illegally monopolized using that application.
as an oldtimer (30's!) I can tell you that it looks like the momentum of an OS never goes away naturally. Killing windows is unlikely. There are ordinary people out there with 10 years of Windows "knowledge" that doesn't map anywhere else. You have to preserve their knowledge, no matter what, it's about them, not the technology, from where they sit. -pyrrho
This is probably not as funny to read as it was to experience. The relevant fact may be that we might have hacked back at this guy, but only because he was so pathetic as to just be abusing his privs at a tiny ISP. The real hackers can't be traced back in three minutes and if they can... well that's probably not the real person. If you can trace them fast enough to attack them... start calling. Hack them with the real world, where they are disoriented... :) -pyrrho
A degree guarentees the people hiring you that you know what you say you know. It's that simple.
ROFLMAO. Running compiled code is how you know that...
I thought the same thing regarding his take on what the free software was supposed to mean to him and the company he works for. They waited! To make a project on opensource vaporware is to make your own trouble. You have two choices... 1) only start with things that are a known quanity, you can see what you get and start from, don't expect anything you don't already get or can build on yourself. or, 2) no, that's the only choice. -pyrrho
it makes the priority clear. unlike most corporate work in which the fear of unspoken criteria is always yeilding random result, the shuttle program is sure of it's priorities. Of course, it means nothing to someone who signs such a thing without caring. I'm sure someone loves to point out that it hasn't stopped the shuttle itself from problems. But still, the answer is, the black magic is that it makes the priority clearly communicated and acknowledged as communicated.
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but now I can install my own phone from the box in less than an hour! they just turn it on! much better. -craig
depending on whatever they put inbetween the posts, it's most likely they are right and can use all your posts as fair use. Maybe you should give them the benefit of the doubt. Sometimes "bending to pressure" is the same thing as "listening". I didn't post to those threads but was disenheartened to see slashdot using them when they do specifically say you own your posts. that's not a legal issue however. -pyrrho
I pray this will really happen, but somehow I don't think so.
and do you normally read/post to slashdot?
RMS doesn't want you to work for free. Get real. In this free software model people that need custom software pay people to start with an open project and customize it. Because of GPL, the new code is still open. And so forth. The programmers are still paid. Of course, you get paid for programming more than what you've already programmed... but even that isn't entirely true, as there are ways to continue to make money from using your own code for it's natural business'.
you are welcome to your tastes, of course, naturally, but for explanation. in games like this you don't pretend to be the little character. You pretend to be god, controller of everything. You break up relationship, or put then together, you run everything. It's an I'm-god pretend thing, so in reality it's no more healthy than destroying imaginary things. Um, I like both.
fool! Sim city wasn't made by EA, it was made by Maxis who wasn't a part of EA then!
I became a programmer before we knew about the money and the hot grits girls! Imagine my luck... I might have been a rock star or something instead! -pyrrho
my god. you are right! this is the confliction with hacker laws! As a long shot, this might be a way to require open source as de facto full disclosure, because otherwise patches might have to have full disclosure of all features (even undiscovered bugs). This is no difference from a feature patch than might introduce a security flaw in a productivity app. Don't get me wrong, I think that the artist (maxis) has the right to do this in the game world they're creating, but if it destroys hours of work, it does fall under these laws! and the point is the flaw that implies in the law. -pyrrho
you bring in an interesting question. I think the answer will be that most people will be far more cruel than they are in reality. Look, the sims site itself talks about marrying rich sims and killing them (for example by putting them in the pool and then removing the ladder). That would seem a little needlessly cruel, why not just publish the money cheat tho if they want people to get money outside the real parameters of the game. (shift-ctrl-c then type "klapaucius", doesn't work with 1.1). Ok, it may not really be cruel, it's only pretending to be cruel. But why? Like this poster mentions, with the costs of kindness less, why not pretend to be less cruel rather than more. -craig
what, does he think he's god? just kidding... isn't he? Thank god I lost that plugin when my laptop died! where is the sim dog with rabies they've been promissing (not really, but wait!) -craig
I've seen keyboards that did a little of this, badly and expensively, but you could make a cheap one right now! do it... you'll get rich, it's a good point. Keyboards where the keys or at least the Fkeys could be labled would double or triple the effectiveness of even current (i.e.badly designed) interfaces.
1) Engineers have found their code stolen from them, projects that they were working thrown out, or just gerally mishandled by suits and $. That's code they sweated over owned by others. I think many coders love their code... they don't want to be cut off... they rationalize that they were just going to have to throw it out anyway and make a better system, but they mean burn a CD and look at it when they are old. I want to die in a pile of every line of code I've ever written. Um... a long time from now. 2) I went open source because there is a lot of expense forcing people to sign NDAs, a lot of hand holding. Friction and costs. So opensourcing is like taking your investment in development and spending it directly on marketing, which dollar for dollar shows how cheap it really is to open source. 3) What am I, a jerk? I love to use the open tools. I used two cool libraries and if IBM and colloseum builders can give cool tools away, then gee, I can too. Like a Hobbesean social conscious, I do it not from altruism, but because it feels good (aka hedonism). 4) And the point, $$ wise, is clearly, heat the industry and then bask in the glow of a, um, warm industry! cba@xmlskin.com
If you used a licensed program (program that paid unisys' licensing fee, I mean, not "non-pirated") to create the GIF, you are fine. I assume accuweather is creating GIFs on the fly from a CGI script.
nope, they make you pay for distributing GIFs made with programs whose authors have paid the license. What an optimist! But PNG is supported everywhere, with press like this there is no way the great sucking noise can make it to 2003... can it?
It's probably good if only because a company like Unisys is always going to suck the blood from a luck out standard like this. So it's only value is to show how corporations are crazy to have warm fuzzies about proprietary technologies... especially these kinds of patents where you still have to write the software yourself anyway! cushy!
if we could make computers on the molecular scale, wouldn't we by definition be able to recreate the brain's complexity? Isn't that how the brain is made, using quantum computing nanomachines? yeah yeah, different type of design. sure.
It's clear that Bill Gates just wasn't satisfied being geek king, he must have been more comfortable when geeks were outcast! So now he is the outcast among geeks, ungeek... RALPH REED? Good lord... doesn't Microsoft have domestic partner and all sorts of liberal policies, I mean compared to the Christian Coalition. This is the boy, er, man, that make the Christian Coalition a political force an not -just- the viewing audience of a bunch of crazy whack jobs. Nothing personal, "crazy whack job" is not nec. a bad thing...
a crime is not merely obnoxious. to say that his crime is being obnoxious is to confuse the point... there isn't any reason you couldn't be put in jail for fraud. but I'm not saying he actually could be. I agree with the others on the nature of these crimes. However, you guys... you CAN be put in jail for antitrust, it just never happens. But that's because it always is like, "ooops, slipped up and broke the antitrust laws... sorry" and the company pays. If, however, there was ever proof of an executive "let's violate those antitrust laws... I love doing that" and then was found guilty of a violation... I think you can send them to jail for overt violations just as with other crimes.