I think MS should have to fund an organization that would itself decide what to do with the funds. They could distribute linux to schools, they could distribute Office. They could decide the best thing is to enhance linux for education and make an Edu.distro.
Just ensure that MS doesn't decide where the money goes or they will just put it back in their own pocket. History.
my theory is that, beyond knowing they have nothing to prove, anyone that learns much about a subject becomes struck by how much they do not know! You become poised to learn new things, and from the newest newbies you hope to learn, at least, new perspectives.
Furthermore, even if the HST mirror had been manufactured perfectly, it would be no better than the post-corrected HST. In other words, the HST fix made it "as good as new".
The extra lense introduces a data loss. It will be removed in 2003.
ah yeah, the good old days. Too bad there weren't any. Oppurtinity lies in the future. Don't believe the hype... you are buying that hype hook line and sinker, no offense intended.
I think the same thing goes for the national highway system... couldn't the government spend it's time better fighting war than fixing the roads?
And schools. Shouldn't they close the schools so they can spend that effort fighting war?
And what about all this scientific research? Should not those people be more involved in the war effort?
And what about the Coast Guard, shouldn't they stop saving boats in distress? couldn't they be used better to Guard the Coast... oh wait, scratch this last one.
a troll pulls comments for the sake of comments... my post was meant to be thought provoking, and evidently it was, as there are many interesting replies. Thought provoking b/c I personally do not support covert operation, I support full disclosure.
What is poor is not my question (any analogy between Nuclear Reactors and Software is projected in by yourself), but your assumption making.
You should thank me for the opportunity to add to the conversation, and especially the opportunity to have that pleasant feeling of superiority you like so much.
In fact, the question was straight forward... "I am for full disclosure... but what do you think it's ramifications are to other, real world, security issues." My examples ran from very serious to slightly serious.
But don't get me wrong, I thought you had a good contribution, except, as I said, your dangerous smugness. There is certainly no way I am going to be defeated in the long run.
However: Is the CIA not international in scope? where does it perform it's business... in other countries ONLY!
oh no! I just realized I'm the one that got trolled by -you-, doh!
would you extend these arguments to support it in non-virtual security? Should the CIA and other international organizations use full exposure? Should they publish something titled, "This is the vulnerability of our Nuclear Piles"? "This is where you can cross the border undetected", "This is how to make a Fake ID?"
what I think is most forgotten is that the Internet boom was not stupid. Failure is a part of this sort of technological explosion. It's easy to feel stupid if you thouht it would grow that way forever. It's easy to feel stupid if you compare with 1998. But if you look a scant 5-6 years back you will see that everything is MUCH advanced.
iow, it was a good idea to let us blow all the money. It was necessarry to ensure the better ideas also got funded.
Maybe I'm biased, I was at a bunch of poorly run companies that succeeded anyway (although not always according to the plan as seen by execs).
I have stolen the persona of the mad bomber what bombs at midnight and turned it into an oft used handle and persona "mad coder what codes at midnight".
"do you do the gimiks" I asked him, "yeah," he saysbaby.
My question: are you going to sue me if you ever find out?
I understand why a fine would seem useless to you. However, I think the fine is the main thing missing. Yes, many would like harsher limitations, but these limitations are essentially "enough rope to hang themselves" and that is the standard courts often follow... another change. The courts are more patient, and another chance to show intent and willingness to understand the spirit of the agreement justifies a breakup if that should become nec. No court is going to break Microsoft up for five years of behavior, MS needs more rope to hang itself.
(yes, I know the behavior goes back more than that, but the court has really only judged on post '95 issues)
But the fine, I think the fine is nec. and should be earmarked specifically in use policing Microsoft. A $500 Million dollar fine to be used to pay for the policing of microsoft, as discretionary funds for the new Microsoft oversight commitee.
I think furthermore that if this settlment does go through, the effort should be put into making sure the commitee of three is not staffed by pro-microsoft forces. I say we need one Lessig/Gillmore on there (I'd vote a Stallman on there, but lets be realistic.)
your Schemas do not have to be the same, that is what XSLT is for... exposing the data in even a crummy XML tagset allows XSLT to be used to transform the data back and forth.
I agree on the issue of interchange... however, you don't understand XSL if you don't see why it's needed for interchange! XSL will transform XML into XML... because you made a meta-language for your database BASED on XML which will be different from my XML based ml, even though the data is similar... XSLT is a language for mapping from one XML tagset to another... it's a vital part. If you think XSL is supposed to be a general purpose programming language...read again.
all I want to know is how to post when there is no comment to reply to... what's the secret! by the way, that troll was pathetic-obvious, you had me going only for a few words into the post! funny tho.
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I think MS should have to fund an organization that would itself decide what to do with the funds. They could distribute linux to schools, they could distribute Office. They could decide the best thing is to enhance linux for education and make an Edu.distro.
Just ensure that MS doesn't decide where the money goes or they will just put it back in their own pocket. History.
my theory is that, beyond knowing they have nothing to prove, anyone that learns much about a subject becomes struck by how much they do not know! You become poised to learn new things, and from the newest newbies you hope to learn, at least, new perspectives.
Furthermore, even if the HST mirror had been manufactured perfectly, it would be no better than the post-corrected HST. In other words, the HST fix made it "as good as new".
The extra lense introduces a data loss. It will be removed in 2003.
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ah yeah, the good old days. Too bad there weren't any. Oppurtinity lies in the future. Don't believe the hype... you are buying that hype hook line and sinker, no offense intended.
So if you cite support for your position in your posts, it might be libel because you have framed your post as a fact.
I consider this a personal reward for sloppy unsupported postwurk... in other words, a reward for me personally.
Maybe this will put a stop to all flame wars. Thank You Justice System!
Actually, thinking back, I'm quite relieved.
only in comparison to the response you could expect from Microsoft Marketing.
>I hope Microsoft wins this battle. The stupid antitrust laws should be repealed anyway. They're over 100 years old!
Hey, so is the whole country... time to close up the tent everyone.
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... sounds like a rhetorical question...
...was a lot cleaner than I thought! There was a lot of beer and bacteria in there.
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wait, I didn't understand, did the poster say, "wouldn't the government be better off sending all the DOJ attorneys to Afghanistan?"
forget my last answer... I'm for that!
I think the same thing goes for the national highway system... couldn't the government spend it's time better fighting war than fixing the roads?
And schools. Shouldn't they close the schools so they can spend that effort fighting war?
And what about all this scientific research? Should not those people be more involved in the war effort?
And what about the Coast Guard, shouldn't they stop saving boats in distress? couldn't they be used better to Guard the Coast... oh wait, scratch this last one.
a troll pulls comments for the sake of comments... my post was meant to be thought provoking, and evidently it was, as there are many interesting replies. Thought provoking b/c I personally do not support covert operation, I support full disclosure.
What is poor is not my question (any analogy between Nuclear Reactors and Software is projected in by yourself), but your assumption making.
You should thank me for the opportunity to add to the conversation, and especially the opportunity to have that pleasant feeling of superiority you like so much.
In fact, the question was straight forward... "I am for full disclosure... but what do you think it's ramifications are to other, real world, security issues." My examples ran from very serious to slightly serious.
But don't get me wrong, I thought you had a good contribution, except, as I said, your dangerous smugness. There is certainly no way I am going to be defeated in the long run.
However: Is the CIA not international in scope? where does it perform it's business... in other countries ONLY!
oh no! I just realized I'm the one that got trolled by -you-, doh!
would you extend these arguments to support it in non-virtual security? Should the CIA and other international organizations use full exposure? Should they publish something titled, "This is the vulnerability of our Nuclear Piles"? "This is where you can cross the border undetected", "This is how to make a Fake ID?"
what I think is most forgotten is that the Internet boom was not stupid. Failure is a part of this sort of technological explosion. It's easy to feel stupid if you thouht it would grow that way forever. It's easy to feel stupid if you compare with 1998. But if you look a scant 5-6 years back you will see that everything is MUCH advanced.
iow, it was a good idea to let us blow all the money. It was necessarry to ensure the better ideas also got funded.
Maybe I'm biased, I was at a bunch of poorly run companies that succeeded anyway (although not always according to the plan as seen by execs).
Globalization is making war illegal.
Is the Tick unintelligent? or is he really really smart?
I have stolen the persona of the mad bomber what bombs at midnight and turned it into an oft used handle and persona "mad coder what codes at midnight".
"do you do the gimiks" I asked him, "yeah," he saysbaby.
My question: are you going to sue me if you ever find out?
Everybody hates free stuff but loves socialism... wait... reverse that
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But how can it succeed if it isn't free... how will it make money?
I understand why a fine would seem useless to you. However, I think the fine is the main thing missing. Yes, many would like harsher limitations, but these limitations are essentially "enough rope to hang themselves" and that is the standard courts often follow... another change. The courts are more patient, and another chance to show intent and willingness to understand the spirit of the agreement justifies a breakup if that should become nec. No court is going to break Microsoft up for five years of behavior, MS needs more rope to hang itself.
(yes, I know the behavior goes back more than that, but the court has really only judged on post '95 issues)
But the fine, I think the fine is nec. and should be earmarked specifically in use policing Microsoft. A $500 Million dollar fine to be used to pay for the policing of microsoft, as discretionary funds for the new Microsoft oversight commitee.
I think furthermore that if this settlment does go through, the effort should be put into making sure the commitee of three is not staffed by pro-microsoft forces. I say we need one Lessig/Gillmore on there (I'd vote a Stallman on there, but lets be realistic.)
your Schemas do not have to be the same, that is what XSLT is for... exposing the data in even a crummy XML tagset allows XSLT to be used to transform the data back and forth.
I agree on the issue of interchange... however, you don't understand XSL if you don't see why it's needed for interchange! XSL will transform XML into XML... because you made a meta-language for your database BASED on XML which will be different from my XML based ml, even though the data is similar... XSLT is a language for mapping from one XML tagset to another... it's a vital part. If you think XSL is supposed to be a general purpose programming language...read again.
all I want to know is how to post when there is no comment to reply to... what's the secret! by the way, that troll was pathetic-obvious, you had me going only for a few words into the post! funny tho.
it's not based on people being equally qualified, it's based on incompetance being spread out in a statistical counterballance. Much more realistic.