Point? Are you trying to imply that a person starting at that price won't be making it long? Because if your employers have the money to turn the $40K of every new hire into significantly more than $40K every single year, they can probably afford to start people at more than $40K.
No Experience just a degree.
Maybe that's part of your problem too - the insistence on applicants having a certain piece of very, very expensive paper. Not that you shouldn't look for degree'd candidates, but expect to pay a premium; they didn't get that piece of paper for free, and neither will you.
At that point you are a monkey get over yourself.
Then again, maybe it's this attitude of yours that's scaring away potential applicants. After all, who wants to work for some prick who's going to pay you shit, then marginalize and insult you when you point out that your skills are worth so much more?
And the student loans suck. I think that's a very good point, you can't graduate from college with that much debt and take a job in rural America.
So... if you get it, why the hell are you still arguing and making excuses?
Our clients (Courts) can't afford to pay more than they are. Hell they can't even pay their own staffs around here. It sucks from that point of view. What's happened around here, is that the cost of college has gotten so high because they have to pay competitively for professors to be willing to work here, while pricing the cost of tuition out of reach of the local people for whom the college was supposed to help. While at the same time, except for a few departments, the quality of teaching and the degree is so low that only big city kids who couldn't get into a decent school attend, and then leave after trashing the place. There will always be more opportunities in a large urban area than a rural area, and more on the coasts than the midwest.
More excuse-making.
That just life, but as far a shortage of programmers go, we have one.
No, what you have is a shortage of incentive for people to come work for you. That's not the same thing as a shortage of people with the necessary skills.
All we can offer are cheap cost of living, safe schools, nice enviroment, lots of nature, wineries, and fiber to your house.
Which, apparently, isn't enough. So either come up with a way to do the work you need to do without hiring any more people, or come up with an incentive program that actually attracts talent to the area. Bitching about the fact that nobody wants to work for what you currently have to offer obviously isn't getting the job done.
The similarities were not lost on all concerned at the time.
I'm certain they weren't:)
The real question is, did anyone marching in these "hate parades" have the balls to carry a giant sucker and sing, "we represent / the Lollypop Guild..."
If you want to volunteer to go back to the dark ages yourself, go right ahead.
Grubbing dirt out of the ground and burning it is a "dark ages" thing.
So... you think computers are "dark ages" things? Because you can't build a computer without "grubbing dirt out of the ground," you know.
Make all the apples-to-monster-trucks comparisons you want - if you, personally, aren't limiting your own electricity use, not only are you not serious about the environment, you don't have a leg to stand on when it comes to telling other people how they should be getting their power.
How do those figures break down geographically? Because there are some places in America where millions of people rely 100% on coal for electricity generation.
No need to donate, just stop using electricity altogether - that should offset the use of coal more than the amount you might donate would. Not only would doing so show that you're really serious about the environment, it's a far more reasonable and realistic proposal than shutting down the sole power source for a vast majority of the global population.
You understand the point of electric cars is to enable the changeover from fossil fuels at a systemic level, right? The car doesn't care where the energy is coming from, allowing a regulatory framework to change as pragmatic options become available.
(My area's electricity is about 50% nuclear, 15% renewable)
You understand that for a significant portion of the global population, coal == electricity, right? Personally, I think it's pretty damn narcissistic to demand the rest of the world stop using a resource, then in the next breath brag about how doing so wouldn't really affect you.
If you want to volunteer to go back to the dark ages yourself, go right ahead. But don't expect the rest of us to be so keen on the notion.
There is a 57.67% cost of living difference between here and the west coast. What people see is that we offer $40K starting where as the coast will offer $63K. Yet, they are the same amount as far as cost of living goes.
Sounds like excuse-making to me.
$40K/yr dries up PDQ when you've got a mortgage, car payment, and $70K worth of student loans to pay.
Even in the Midwest. Hell, even in the rural Midwest.
So, seems like you've got 2 choices here: Keep paying peanuts to hire monkeys and whine about it, or try something else and see if it makes a difference.
I'll bet they love the Google auto-car = you can get away with a lot more intrusive in-vehicle advertising when there's no safety risk of distracting the driver.
I'm thinking like the Jaws ad from Back to the Future II, but right in the middle of the passenger compartment.
But surely nothing changes between states, or over the course of a decade, right?
I'd like to see something a bit more recent and comprehensive, if we're going to try and say that felonious border-jumpers contribute more to our society than they take.
(and, in some cases, more mechanical components - VTEC engines have an extra camshaft, for example).
No, no they don't. They have additional lobes on the cam, and the cam is shifted side to side. In spite of this apparently victorian arrangement, VTEC is as reliable as the sunrise.
Further reading supports this - apparently the good folks at HowStuffWorks.com did not research their material very well. My bad.
Ahh, a Ford vs Chevy truck pissing match - haven't gotten into one of these in a solid decade!
You could have bought a Ford. There must be some reason the F-Series is the world's most popular vehicle.
For the same reason no-name brand Android tablets are the world's most popular mobile devices - they're cheap as hell.
And you get what you pay for:P
But you had to go buy a Chevy.
Yea, because I needed a truck for work, not so I can sit higher than everyone else and feel "safe." There's a reason Chevrolet's are the longest lasting trucks on the road - and it ain't because they're cheaply build, like with a Ford.
Take that, Blue Oval Boy!!!
OK, all fun and kidding aside, I did test drive a few F-150's when I was shopping around, but none of them fit my needs, wants, and price range. Nice interiors, I will say that.
Yea, and in many cases it's approximately 1.5 bitches to remove... Except, oddly, the crash event recorder - it's right under the driver's seat, and can be disabled without so much as moving the seat forward.
Maybe so that it can be easily removed (by the police or insurer) in the event of a crash?
I assumed they could tap into the OBD II port and download the info.
Of course, if the illegal immigrant can convince the government that they are a "victim of trafficking," all the remaining barriers go out the window. Seems a simple plan: hire a Coyote to sneak you across, then claim it was against your will, and bip-bam-boom! Full federal welfare bennies.
While some do pay into the system, I have seen many W4's that indicate they have 20 dependents. Since this isn't verified until tax season, they effectively escape all income taxes.
Not to mention, since they're using stolen identification to begin with...
The "Illegals TOTALLY Pay Taxes" crowd would be a lot easier to take seriously if they had, you know, evidence of their claims.
What I find funny is that I can use the same satirical tone in all of my posts, yet the AC ones always seem to get modded down and the ones under my name seem to get modded up.
That's because most people don't want to waste mod points on AC posts.
Try calling your local National Guard unit, see if you can talk them into using a CH-47 to move it for you as a training exercise. After all, the National Guard needs the training anyway, so give them something in the real world to practice on. Just emphasize that you need it for disaster preparedness.
This seems like something clever enough to work.
Barring that.. you could always try whoring yourself out. Literally and metaphorically.
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I said 40K starting.
Point? Are you trying to imply that a person starting at that price won't be making it long? Because if your employers have the money to turn the $40K of every new hire into significantly more than $40K every single year, they can probably afford to start people at more than $40K.
No Experience just a degree.
Maybe that's part of your problem too - the insistence on applicants having a certain piece of very, very expensive paper. Not that you shouldn't look for degree'd candidates, but expect to pay a premium; they didn't get that piece of paper for free, and neither will you.
At that point you are a monkey get over yourself.
Then again, maybe it's this attitude of yours that's scaring away potential applicants. After all, who wants to work for some prick who's going to pay you shit, then marginalize and insult you when you point out that your skills are worth so much more?
And the student loans suck. I think that's a very good point, you can't graduate from college with that much debt and take a job in rural America.
So... if you get it, why the hell are you still arguing and making excuses?
Our clients (Courts) can't afford to pay more than they are. Hell they can't even pay their own staffs around here. It sucks from that point of view. What's happened around here, is that the cost of college has gotten so high because they have to pay competitively for professors to be willing to work here, while pricing the cost of tuition out of reach of the local people for whom the college was supposed to help. While at the same time, except for a few departments, the quality of teaching and the degree is so low that only big city kids who couldn't get into a decent school attend, and then leave after trashing the place. There will always be more opportunities in a large urban area than a rural area, and more on the coasts than the midwest.
More excuse-making.
That just life, but as far a shortage of programmers go, we have one.
No, what you have is a shortage of incentive for people to come work for you. That's not the same thing as a shortage of people with the necessary skills.
All we can offer are cheap cost of living, safe schools, nice enviroment, lots of nature, wineries, and fiber to your house.
Which, apparently, isn't enough. So either come up with a way to do the work you need to do without hiring any more people, or come up with an incentive program that actually attracts talent to the area. Bitching about the fact that nobody wants to work for what you currently have to offer obviously isn't getting the job done.
The similarities were not lost on all concerned at the time.
I'm certain they weren't :)
The real question is, did anyone marching in these "hate parades" have the balls to carry a giant sucker and sing, "we represent / the Lollypop Guild..."
Because that would have been epic.
"Royal" in the figurative sense.
Forgot we're talking about a nation that still has a monarchy, probably should have clarified that remark.
If you want to volunteer to go back to the dark ages yourself, go right ahead.
Grubbing dirt out of the ground and burning it is a "dark ages" thing.
So... you think computers are "dark ages" things? Because you can't build a computer without "grubbing dirt out of the ground," you know.
Make all the apples-to-monster-trucks comparisons you want - if you, personally, aren't limiting your own electricity use, not only are you not serious about the environment, you don't have a leg to stand on when it comes to telling other people how they should be getting their power.
How do those figures break down geographically? Because there are some places in America where millions of people rely 100% on coal for electricity generation.
Where's the damn kickstarter?
No need to donate, just stop using electricity altogether - that should offset the use of coal more than the amount you might donate would. Not only would doing so show that you're really serious about the environment, it's a far more reasonable and realistic proposal than shutting down the sole power source for a vast majority of the global population.
This is a headline straight out of Atlas Shrugged... has the whole world gone bonkers?
When we reach a point that Atlas Shrugged starts making sense? Yea, "bonkers" is one way to put it.
You understand the point of electric cars is to enable the changeover from fossil fuels at a systemic level, right? The car doesn't care where the energy is coming from, allowing a regulatory framework to change as pragmatic options become available.
(My area's electricity is about 50% nuclear, 15% renewable)
You understand that for a significant portion of the global population, coal == electricity, right? Personally, I think it's pretty damn narcissistic to demand the rest of the world stop using a resource, then in the next breath brag about how doing so wouldn't really affect you.
If you want to volunteer to go back to the dark ages yourself, go right ahead. But don't expect the rest of us to be so keen on the notion.
This is supposed to be about protecting the Earth's atmosphere and climate.
Yea? And laws that limit malpractice awards are supposed to drive down healthcare costs.
Funny thing about "supposed to..."
Didn't Hate Week sate your hatred? You know, the week after she died when you had hate parades to show just how much you hated her.
FWIW, so did the Munchkins, after Dorothy landed her house on the wicked witch.
Sometimes a "hate parade" is appropriate, when the person being hated was a royal fuckwad.
Or were we just going to go without 37% of our electricity?
For certain values of people living in the Midwest, you can bump that figure up to at least 80%, if not 100.
Also, with real college:
- You're out the cost of the classes whether you succeed or fail.
- Success in school does not automagically lead to a successful career. Same goes for failure.
There is a 57.67% cost of living difference between here and the west coast. What people see is that we offer $40K starting where as the coast will offer $63K. Yet, they are the same amount as far as cost of living goes.
Sounds like excuse-making to me.
$40K/yr dries up PDQ when you've got a mortgage, car payment, and $70K worth of student loans to pay.
Even in the Midwest. Hell, even in the rural Midwest.
So, seems like you've got 2 choices here: Keep paying peanuts to hire monkeys and whine about it, or try something else and see if it makes a difference.
Lots of older eyes make it harder.
I would think it would make it easier, considering most people have to get by with no more than a pair.
Ba-dum psht.
I'll bet they love the Google auto-car = you can get away with a lot more intrusive in-vehicle advertising when there's no safety risk of distracting the driver.
I'm thinking like the Jaws ad from Back to the Future II, but right in the middle of the passenger compartment.
OK, so that covers one state 9 years ago....
But surely nothing changes between states, or over the course of a decade, right?
I'd like to see something a bit more recent and comprehensive, if we're going to try and say that felonious border-jumpers contribute more to our society than they take.
Maybe the cause is good. But this method of parting fools from their money is just sleazy.
FTFY. "Fundraising" implies there's actually something legitimate to raise funds for, like beating cancer, or kids.
(and, in some cases, more mechanical components - VTEC engines have an extra camshaft, for example).
No, no they don't. They have additional lobes on the cam, and the cam is shifted side to side. In spite of this apparently victorian arrangement, VTEC is as reliable as the sunrise.
Further reading supports this - apparently the good folks at HowStuffWorks.com did not research their material very well. My bad.
Ahh, a Ford vs Chevy truck pissing match - haven't gotten into one of these in a solid decade!
You could have bought a Ford. There must be some reason the F-Series is the world's most popular vehicle.
For the same reason no-name brand Android tablets are the world's most popular mobile devices - they're cheap as hell.
And you get what you pay for :P
But you had to go buy a Chevy.
Yea, because I needed a truck for work, not so I can sit higher than everyone else and feel "safe." There's a reason Chevrolet's are the longest lasting trucks on the road - and it ain't because they're cheaply build, like with a Ford.
Take that, Blue Oval Boy!!!
OK, all fun and kidding aside, I did test drive a few F-150's when I was shopping around, but none of them fit my needs, wants, and price range. Nice interiors, I will say that.
Maybe so that it can be easily removed (by the police or insurer) in the event of a crash?
I assumed they could tap into the OBD II port and download the info.
Really?
Please direct me to the State and Federal programs that do not require a Social Security number or a green card.
Schools:
Also Medicaid, SNAP, and WIC.
Those are federal programs; state laws may vary.
Of course, if the illegal immigrant can convince the government that they are a "victim of trafficking," all the remaining barriers go out the window. Seems a simple plan: hire a Coyote to sneak you across, then claim it was against your will, and bip-bam-boom! Full federal welfare bennies.
While some do pay into the system, I have seen many W4's that indicate they have 20 dependents. Since this isn't verified until tax season, they effectively escape all income taxes.
Not to mention, since they're using stolen identification to begin with...
The "Illegals TOTALLY Pay Taxes" crowd would be a lot easier to take seriously if they had, you know, evidence of their claims.
Sometimes I feel like reading /. is akin to attending a session of Congress.
Except, on /., when someone accidentally tells the truth, they don't come back 5 minutes later and apologize for "mis-speaking"
What I find funny is that I can use the same satirical tone in all of my posts, yet the AC ones always seem to get modded down and the ones under my name seem to get modded up.
That's because most people don't want to waste mod points on AC posts.
Try calling your local National Guard unit, see if you can talk them into using a CH-47 to move it for you as a training exercise. After all, the National Guard needs the training anyway, so give them something in the real world to practice on. Just emphasize that you need it for disaster preparedness.
This seems like something clever enough to work.
Barring that.. you could always try whoring yourself out. Literally and metaphorically.