Did you really say that? Of course an embryo is alive.
Yea, I guess I should have phrased it differently:
Kind of hard to resurrect that which has yet to die, dink.
Better?
The big distinction here is that the cells are fast frozen while still alive.
Hm. Well, since the term 'resurrection,' when applied to human life, specifically refers to bringing the dead back, perhaps for clarification sake they should use a different term...
Suspended animation always had a nice ring to it, but doesn't really cover the waking-up part... OOH! I've got a good one: Persistence! It makes sense, and is totally Spock!
It's likely that once society has advanced enough that we can revive geezercicles, we'll not begrudge them the expense of doing so.
How do we know that "once society has advanced enough," they won't simply decide that the geezercicles aren't worth the time or energy? Or, if they do decide reviving an ancient relic of a bygone era (one they probably won't be able to communicate with, any more than we could communicate with a caveman), what makes you think they'll use the person as anything but a laboratory rat?
I suppose the point I'm trying to make is 2-fold - 1, some shit just ain't worth the effort, and 2, be careful what you wish for.
Or, alternately, some decent person will figure out a way to biologically/mechanically enhance a human being in a way that removes physical disabilities and/or existing physiological limitations, and amplifies intelligence to the point where we can effortlessly accomplish in a day what once took a week or more.
Well, sure they might, but probably not while working on a project for the US DoD.
It has become pretty obvious that doing anything to help out DARPA is just going to be used against all of us, one way or another.
I can't believe people are still willing to participate in this stuff.
This.
Knowing what we know now, anyone who assists DARPA or any TLA is actively working against their own people, and should be regarded as a traitorous persona non grata.
That does bring to mind an interesting, slightly OT question - if the new Microsoft OS for phones and tablets is basically the same as Windows 8, does that mean they will all be affected by the same malware?
Just because you were right doesn't make you not a paranoid loon if that's the first assumption you came up with.
Funny, you must be reading a different summary; the one I see says nothing about it being "the first assumption [he] came up with," but rather that he noticed a slowdown. How do we know that he didn't subsequently verify his suspicion w/ a packet capture and trace? TFA doesn't bother to clarify the statement.
But hey, don't let that keep you from attacking a guy because of what you perceive he meant.
Not from any apps sold via the Amazon Appstore for Android.
The entire point of Apple's closed system is that they are the only publisher of software for the platform. This means they get a cut of sales no matter what.
Plus the cut they get from charging $99/yr for the privilege of developing iOS apps.
Maybe you should read up on the law instead of speculating; It relates to financial institutes & the government.
The law states that the CFAA is limited to systems that "have a compelling federal interest;" considering that it's well known that the government monitors facebook traffic, and possibly even has equipment running at the facebook datacenter, it's not a stretch to see how they could apply the CFAA to social media traffic. Again, don't agree with the practice, but I can see the potential for charges.
Or you could RTFA and see that it states clearly "his actions violated Facebook's Terms of Service".
Are you really claiming that one cannot both violate a ToS and a law simultaneously? Just because one was mentioned and not the other does not mean that the other is not a distinct possibility - it could mean that whoever wrote TFA failed to do their due diligence.
So, American laws now apply to foreign nationals who are not in America?
A) Have you been sleeping the past decade or so? If the non-American government acquiesces to the US Government demands, then yes, apparently they do. Not that I agree with the practice.
B) The dude in question is a Palestinian. Really, if you know anything about US/Isreali/Palestinian relations, that should be all I have to say.
The childishness in the center of your statements was completely without necessity.
Yes, Preditors are often overlooked. Just cover yourself with mud and smash them with a log and you'll be fine. Or stay out of the jungles which is their primary habitat.
No they aren't, because *finding* a security flaw is not the same thing as illegally *exploiting* a security flaw. If you need a proof of concept, you can hack your own account.
Which is still illegal (because even though it's "your account," you still have to run the exploit on someone else's network), and still a violation of the ToS.
Ding! Next time maybe he sells it on the black market instead of trying repeatedly to inform a company that obviously doesn't give a crap about security.
Exactly - fuck me once, shame on you, fuck me twice...
You know, the sad thing is that when I started college, the school was nothing like it is now. Back then, the president's number one priority was getting the under-served and poor people in the area a good education. Unfortunately, he retired, and the guy they replaced him with was nothing but a money-grubber looking to further his own career. Things went downhill in a hurry.
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Did you really say that? Of course an embryo is alive.
Yea, I guess I should have phrased it differently:
Kind of hard to resurrect that which has yet to die, dink.
Better?
The big distinction here is that the cells are fast frozen while still alive.
Hm. Well, since the term 'resurrection,' when applied to human life, specifically refers to bringing the dead back, perhaps for clarification sake they should use a different term...
Suspended animation always had a nice ring to it, but doesn't really cover the waking-up part... OOH! I've got a good one: Persistence! It makes sense, and is totally Spock!
human embryos used for in-vitro fertilization.
Kind of hard to resurrect that which is not yet alive, dink.
I know people that read the Bible and are now dead. Do they get a refund or what?
Hey, it never said you get to keep your terrestrial flesh-sack.
By then we should already have the technology to stick an earthworm into an intelligent super-suit.
Oops, wrong franchise.
It's likely that once society has advanced enough that we can revive geezercicles, we'll not begrudge them the expense of doing so.
How do we know that "once society has advanced enough," they won't simply decide that the geezercicles aren't worth the time or energy? Or, if they do decide reviving an ancient relic of a bygone era (one they probably won't be able to communicate with, any more than we could communicate with a caveman), what makes you think they'll use the person as anything but a laboratory rat?
I suppose the point I'm trying to make is 2-fold - 1, some shit just ain't worth the effort, and 2, be careful what you wish for.
Careful what you wish for...
Or, alternately, some decent person will figure out a way to biologically/mechanically enhance a human being in a way that removes physical disabilities and/or existing physiological limitations, and amplifies intelligence to the point where we can effortlessly accomplish in a day what once took a week or more.
Well, sure they might, but probably not while working on a project for the US DoD.
The internet has not been a DARPA project for at least 20 years, nor is today's government the same as the pasts.
Try to keep up.
It has become pretty obvious that doing anything to help out DARPA is just going to be used against all of us, one way or another.
I can't believe people are still willing to participate in this stuff.
This.
Knowing what we know now, anyone who assists DARPA or any TLA is actively working against their own people, and should be regarded as a traitorous persona non grata.
Because HPUX sucks more than Windows. It still doesn't mean Windows is any good.
I think they did a South Park episode about that...
So, then, someone did install it, as opposed to "no one."
Kinda funny how your defense contradicts itself.
No, I believe it was OS X.
I believe you're right.
That does bring to mind an interesting, slightly OT question - if the new Microsoft OS for phones and tablets is basically the same as Windows 8, does that mean they will all be affected by the same malware?
Just because you were right doesn't make you not a paranoid loon if that's the first assumption you came up with.
Funny, you must be reading a different summary; the one I see says nothing about it being "the first assumption [he] came up with," but rather that he noticed a slowdown. How do we know that he didn't subsequently verify his suspicion w/ a packet capture and trace? TFA doesn't bother to clarify the statement.
But hey, don't let that keep you from attacking a guy because of what you perceive he meant.
“The Jekyll app was live for only a few minutes in March, and no innocent victims installed it, Lu says,”
So it "wreaked havoc" when no one installed it? lolwut?
"No innocent victims" != "no one"
Not from any apps sold via the Amazon Appstore for Android.
The entire point of Apple's closed system is that they are the only publisher of software for the platform. This means they get a cut of sales no matter what.
Plus the cut they get from charging $99/yr for the privilege of developing iOS apps.
Heh, remember when Apple changed the info on their page from "DOES NOT GET VIRUSES" to "DOES NOT GET PC VIRUSES"?
That was classic.
But there you go expecting the Palestinians...
I elicited no such expectation, so please refrain from putting words in my mouth; I have no idea where your hands have been.
Maybe you should read up on the law instead of speculating; It relates to financial institutes & the government.
The law states that the CFAA is limited to systems that "have a compelling federal interest;" considering that it's well known that the government monitors facebook traffic, and possibly even has equipment running at the facebook datacenter, it's not a stretch to see how they could apply the CFAA to social media traffic. Again, don't agree with the practice, but I can see the potential for charges.
Or you could RTFA and see that it states clearly "his actions violated Facebook's Terms of Service".
Are you really claiming that one cannot both violate a ToS and a law simultaneously? Just because one was mentioned and not the other does not mean that the other is not a distinct possibility - it could mean that whoever wrote TFA failed to do their due diligence.
So, American laws now apply to foreign nationals who are not in America?
A) Have you been sleeping the past decade or so? If the non-American government acquiesces to the US Government demands, then yes, apparently they do. Not that I agree with the practice.
B) The dude in question is a Palestinian. Really, if you know anything about US/Isreali/Palestinian relations, that should be all I have to say.
The childishness in the center of your statements was completely without necessity.
If that were the case, I likely wouldn't have listed both.
Pretty sure compromising a remote system that does not belong to you without permission is a violation of the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act.
Yes, Preditors are often overlooked. Just cover yourself with mud and smash them with a log and you'll be fine. Or stay out of the jungles which is their primary habitat.
Tell that to Danny Glover.
No they aren't, because *finding* a security flaw is not the same thing as illegally *exploiting* a security flaw. If you need a proof of concept, you can hack your own account.
Which is still illegal (because even though it's "your account," you still have to run the exploit on someone else's network), and still a violation of the ToS.
Ding! Next time maybe he sells it on the black market instead of trying repeatedly to inform a company that obviously doesn't give a crap about security.
Exactly - fuck me once, shame on you, fuck me twice...
Deloris!
You know, the sad thing is that when I started college, the school was nothing like it is now. Back then, the president's number one priority was getting the under-served and poor people in the area a good education. Unfortunately, he retired, and the guy they replaced him with was nothing but a money-grubber looking to further his own career. Things went downhill in a hurry.