Same reason I don't have a 3D printer, or CNC mill, or laser engraver...
Same reason I fix old laptops for people who can't afford new ones.
Hard as it may be for the more successful Slashdotters to believe, for some of us fiscal survival is a day-by-day battle.
Basically, if it's below 500-ft, not manned, and causing a nuisance, then I would say yes, you can probably destroy it (though IANAL), though whether or not that would be legal likely varies from region to region due to local regulation.
The state I reside in, Missouri, has fairly strong castle laws that allow for use of deadly force against threats to life and property. Again, though IANAL, I'm pretty confident that if some asshole activist was harassing me, my clients, or my livestock by flying his little toy over my land, I could blow it out of the sky with extreme prejudice and suffer no ill legal consequences (this is presuming I'm not an idiot using rifle or other high-powered rounds that may exit the property).
Oh, yea, this also assumes we're out in the countryside; I don't know of any municipality in the nation that allows the discharge of firearms within city limits. In that case, stick with air rifles - maybe still illegal (always check first) and harder to hit your target with, but won't cause much if any collateral damage if you miss.
Side note: Another kinda cool thing about MO property law: If someone leaves something like a car or motorcycle on your land for more than 6 months, you can go to the DMV, fill out a form, and have the title signed over to your name. That's how I got my first motorcycle.
Here's where the disconnect is - according to everything I've read, all US cellular providers have agreed to blacklist the IMEI of any phone reported stolen, thus rendering it virtually useless (at least, to a thief or fence)...
So, then, how are the cops building a database of call logs from after the reported theft of the phone, when the phone should, for all intents and purposes, be a brick?
I can think of a few possibilities...
1) the cops are not reporting the status of the stolen phones to the telco, so they can use the stolen phones as a sort of warrantless bugging device
2) The telco's aren't really blacklisting IMEI's, they just claim they do to keep Uncle Sam off their backs
3) "We only log calls from stolen phones" is a convenient cop-out for when the media gets wind of the likely fact that the NYPD is actually going through the logs of every phone they touch, stolen or otherwise (stop n' frisk) obtained.
1 I would find acceptable (don't steal phones if you don't want to be bugged), 2 would piss me off (at the telcos), and 3... 3 seems the most likely circumstance, considering this is the same region that banned "too-big" sodas, allows it's LEOs to randomly violate the civil liberties of anyone within city limits, and wants to turn the 1st Amendment from a right into a privilege.
So, a $60 job now becomes a $300 job, enough to make most of my customers, with their older machines, say, "Fuck that, I'll just go to Wal-Marx and buy a new one for 100 bucks more!"
Thanks for doing your part to destroy small business, Intel.
I hope you fuckers rot.
Now I've seen everything... a post on slashdot that makes the "save the buggy whips" argument.
Oh give me a break. You're in a dying business and you're blaming others for the fact that your services aren't as valuable as they used to be.
Really? Dying business model? Huh... wonder why my receipts are the highest they've been in years...
Desktop PCs used to be quite expensive, now they're not. Now they're so cheap that most people wouldn't even think about repair.
Yea, that's super relevant in a response to a post about laptops.
The shift to cloud services...
Oh, Christ, here we go with the marketing department's BS...
If your QuickBooks computer died, you had a huge problem. But if your QuickbooksOnline.Intuit.Com computer dies, you just get another web browser.
... WTF are you babbling about? "your QuickbooksOnline.Intuit.Com computer?"
... what does that even mean?
The shift to lightweight/mobile adds pressure to this as well. Desktops are now the exception, not the rule. The rule is now phones, laptops, and tablets in that order. Devices that are hard to service because making them serviceable would add weight and cost to every unit sold.
Again, super relevant, since I was talking about fixing laptops.
You need a new business model. That happens.
Really? 'Cuz I would say that you need some reading glasses. Or maybe some reading comprehension books.
Find: Intellectual property rights theft Replace With: The Drug War
"The Drug War is not a victimless crime. It threatens U.S. businesses and robs hard-working Americans of their jobs, which negatively impacts the economy. It can also pose serious health and safety risks to consumers, and oftentimes, it fuels global organized crime."
Here is a link to Homeland Security's rationale: http://www.dhs.gov/topic/intellectual-property-rights
1 if you ever deal with %bignum% amount of actual cash in a bust then the Secret Service will just about call you
2 anything that goes overseas will cause HomeLand Security to start noticing (possible vector for THEM) of course i think HS is sort of a Macro Dial to most of the TLA stack anyway.
Right; because, as Iran-Contra (among others) taught us, the Federal Government maintains exclusive right to funding third-world authoritarian dickheads.
As someone who regularly repairs laptops (including a lot more processor swaps than you would think), this sucks. It will inevitably increase the cost of every service, thus shrinking my customer base and causing what little profits I have to dry up, forcing me to either get rid of overhead (since I do this on my own, in a home-based shop, there isn't a whole lot to cut), or just shut down the operation completely.
I will use, as an example, a recent proc-swap I did for a friend on his older Dell 1545:
Labor is about $30/hr.
Intel Core 2 Duo T4200 = ~$30, installed in an hour.
Inspiron 1545 motherboard = ~ $200 (used), installed in about 2 hours.
So, a $60 job now becomes a $300 job, enough to make most of my customers, with their older machines, say, "Fuck that, I'll just go to Wal-Marx and buy a new one for 100 bucks more!"
Thanks for doing your part to destroy small business, Intel.
Apple wasn't ordered to tell Samsung all of the company's HTC secrets (i.e., the HTC settlement agreement).
They were ordered to hand the HTC settlement agreement over to Samsung's lawyers only (i.e., "Highly Confidential - Attorneys' Eyes Only").
Yea, kind of like how political candidates can't directly influence the spending of SuperPACs, but they can have a staff member directly under their aegis, who also happens to influence the aforementioned SuperPAC.
There's a difference.
Said difference being transparency and accountability.
One hand washes the other. Meanwhile, consumers get drenched by the runoff.
It reminds me SCO vs Linux case. Like Apple has nothing better to do.
Like what?
No, seriously - other than churn out slightly-improved versions of the same product every 6 months, and attempt to sue their competitors into oblivion, what does Apple do?
This is what irks me the most. I smoke American Spirit and I did it before it was co.....oh SHIT! DAMMIT!
Lucky Strikes. Unfiltered. Smoked 'em because they were the cheapest cigs you could buy (like, $1.25/pack back in the late 1990's).
Quit the Lucky's about a decade ago, when the trendy hipster crowd caught wind of them (pun not intended, but noted) and started buying out every smoke shop in the state, trying to pick up some street cred with the punk rockers they were trying so hard to imitate, subsequently driving the price up 4-5 times.
I smoke a pipe now, have for the last few years - doesn't get any better than meerschaum.
This is no different than when the head of the TSA talks about how great a job he thinks the TSA is doing, or when a DEA agent talks about how horrible a drug marijuana is.
I believe the layman's term for this practice is 'not shitting where one eats.'
Looking around the town I live in, there are no less than 5 record stores still around, all apparently doing quite well for themselves.
Personally, I think there will always be a market for the 'durable good' version of digital things, as it's a lot harder for Amazon (or whoever) to remove my CD collection from my house than it is to just close my account and deny me access.
Digital distribution is a fad, just hasn't hit the backlash point yet.
FTFA: “At approximately 3 p.m., a single sharp rifle crack rang out.” This would seem to refer quite specifically to the distinct sound of a rifle. Yes, the shooter should be arrested...you might note that I alluded to that.
... assuming the environmental terrorist who originated that quote wasn't lying through their teeth for the sake of sensationalism.
I think its time for US, the PUBLIC, to start CHARGING our ELECTED REPESENTATIVES with TREASON for doing this back handed, secretive bullshit. They need to go to prison and made an example of. I'm tired of these ELECTED TYRANTS trying to change the CONSTITUTION that THEY are SWORN TO UPHOLD and PROTECT !
I find your ideas intriguing, and wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
Also - how do you propose we go about charging elected representatives with treason? No judge I've ever met would be willing to issue the arrest orders on that.
This is why I think we need a digital bill of rights to stop this stuff from happening before it even gets going.
I started a petition on the we the people sight. If you agree go sign it! Apparently I need 150 signatures just to get it properly listed.
http://wh.gov/XLym
I'd rather focus on getting the government to honor the existing Bill of Rights, than waste time drafting up a new one for them to ignore.
FYI, just because your 'papers' and 'effects' are now digitized, does not mean they are no longer protected by the 4th Amendment.
Just a reminder before moaning about your privacy:
Next time, think before you click. Unfortunately you'll have to wait four years to correct your mistake.
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Yes, this.
Just because my receipts are the highest they've been in years doesn't mean I'm making shitloads of money. It just means I'm doing more work.
Money.
Same reason I don't have a 3D printer, or CNC mill, or laser engraver...
Same reason I fix old laptops for people who can't afford new ones.
Hard as it may be for the more successful Slashdotters to believe, for some of us fiscal survival is a day-by-day battle.
No; the two are not mutually exclusive, nor diametrically opposed.
Think about if for a minute.
Here's a hint: This ain't my day job, by any means.
Depends; it's not a black-or-white situation.
Basically, if it's below 500-ft, not manned, and causing a nuisance, then I would say yes, you can probably destroy it (though IANAL), though whether or not that would be legal likely varies from region to region due to local regulation.
The state I reside in, Missouri, has fairly strong castle laws that allow for use of deadly force against threats to life and property. Again, though IANAL, I'm pretty confident that if some asshole activist was harassing me, my clients, or my livestock by flying his little toy over my land, I could blow it out of the sky with extreme prejudice and suffer no ill legal consequences (this is presuming I'm not an idiot using rifle or other high-powered rounds that may exit the property).
Oh, yea, this also assumes we're out in the countryside; I don't know of any municipality in the nation that allows the discharge of firearms within city limits. In that case, stick with air rifles - maybe still illegal (always check first) and harder to hit your target with, but won't cause much if any collateral damage if you miss.
Side note: Another kinda cool thing about MO property law: If someone leaves something like a car or motorcycle on your land for more than 6 months, you can go to the DMV, fill out a form, and have the title signed over to your name. That's how I got my first motorcycle.
OK, hypothetical here:
- Phone gets stolen
- Owner reports phone stolen
Here's where the disconnect is - according to everything I've read, all US cellular providers have agreed to blacklist the IMEI of any phone reported stolen, thus rendering it virtually useless (at least, to a thief or fence)...
So, then, how are the cops building a database of call logs from after the reported theft of the phone, when the phone should, for all intents and purposes, be a brick?
I can think of a few possibilities...
1) the cops are not reporting the status of the stolen phones to the telco, so they can use the stolen phones as a sort of warrantless bugging device
2) The telco's aren't really blacklisting IMEI's, they just claim they do to keep Uncle Sam off their backs
3) "We only log calls from stolen phones" is a convenient cop-out for when the media gets wind of the likely fact that the NYPD is actually going through the logs of every phone they touch, stolen or otherwise (stop n' frisk) obtained.
1 I would find acceptable (don't steal phones if you don't want to be bugged), 2 would piss me off (at the telcos), and 3... 3 seems the most likely circumstance, considering this is the same region that banned "too-big" sodas, allows it's LEOs to randomly violate the civil liberties of anyone within city limits, and wants to turn the 1st Amendment from a right into a privilege.
So, a $60 job now becomes a $300 job, enough to make most of my customers, with their older machines, say, "Fuck that, I'll just go to Wal-Marx and buy a new one for 100 bucks more!"
Thanks for doing your part to destroy small business, Intel.
I hope you fuckers rot.
Now I've seen everything... a post on slashdot that makes the "save the buggy whips" argument.
So... Laptops are obsolete now?
Oh give me a break. You're in a dying business and you're blaming others for the fact that your services aren't as valuable as they used to be.
Really? Dying business model? Huh... wonder why my receipts are the highest they've been in years...
Desktop PCs used to be quite expensive, now they're not. Now they're so cheap that most people wouldn't even think about repair.
Yea, that's super relevant in a response to a post about laptops.
The shift to cloud services...
Oh, Christ, here we go with the marketing department's BS...
If your QuickBooks computer died, you had a huge problem. But if your QuickbooksOnline.Intuit.Com computer dies, you just get another web browser.
... WTF are you babbling about? "your QuickbooksOnline.Intuit.Com computer?"
... what does that even mean?
The shift to lightweight/mobile adds pressure to this as well. Desktops are now the exception, not the rule. The rule is now phones, laptops, and tablets in that order. Devices that are hard to service because making them serviceable would add weight and cost to every unit sold.
Again, super relevant, since I was talking about fixing laptops.
You need a new business model. That happens.
Really? 'Cuz I would say that you need some reading glasses. Or maybe some reading comprehension books.
"Circle Jerk" is definitely the better term.
Replace With: The Drug War
"The Drug War is not a victimless crime. It threatens U.S. businesses and robs hard-working Americans of their jobs, which negatively impacts the economy. It can also pose serious health and safety risks to consumers, and oftentimes, it fuels global organized crime." Here is a link to Homeland Security's rationale: http://www.dhs.gov/topic/intellectual-property-rights
Fun with words.
1 if you ever deal with %bignum% amount of actual cash in a bust then the Secret Service will just about call you
2 anything that goes overseas will cause HomeLand Security to start noticing (possible vector for THEM) of course i think HS is sort of a Macro Dial to most of the TLA stack anyway.
Right; because, as Iran-Contra (among others) taught us, the Federal Government maintains exclusive right to funding third-world authoritarian dickheads.
As someone who regularly repairs laptops (including a lot more processor swaps than you would think), this sucks. It will inevitably increase the cost of every service, thus shrinking my customer base and causing what little profits I have to dry up, forcing me to either get rid of overhead (since I do this on my own, in a home-based shop, there isn't a whole lot to cut), or just shut down the operation completely.
I will use, as an example, a recent proc-swap I did for a friend on his older Dell 1545:
Labor is about $30/hr.
Intel Core 2 Duo T4200 = ~$30, installed in an hour.
Inspiron 1545 motherboard = ~ $200 (used), installed in about 2 hours.
So, a $60 job now becomes a $300 job, enough to make most of my customers, with their older machines, say, "Fuck that, I'll just go to Wal-Marx and buy a new one for 100 bucks more!"
Thanks for doing your part to destroy small business, Intel.
I hope you fuckers rot.
Pentagram or Pentacle?
There is a difference, in both orientation and meaning
Apple wasn't ordered to tell Samsung all of the company's HTC secrets (i.e., the HTC settlement agreement).
They were ordered to hand the HTC settlement agreement over to Samsung's lawyers only (i.e., "Highly Confidential - Attorneys' Eyes Only").
Yea, kind of like how political candidates can't directly influence the spending of SuperPACs, but they can have a staff member directly under their aegis, who also happens to influence the aforementioned SuperPAC.
There's a difference.
Said difference being transparency and accountability.
One hand washes the other. Meanwhile, consumers get drenched by the runoff.
Yea; a motherfuckin' gay fish.
It reminds me SCO vs Linux case. Like Apple has nothing better to do.
Like what?
No, seriously - other than churn out slightly-improved versions of the same product every 6 months, and attempt to sue their competitors into oblivion, what does Apple do?
This is what irks me the most. I smoke American Spirit and I did it before it was co.....oh SHIT! DAMMIT!
Lucky Strikes. Unfiltered. Smoked 'em because they were the cheapest cigs you could buy (like, $1.25/pack back in the late 1990's).
Quit the Lucky's about a decade ago, when the trendy hipster crowd caught wind of them (pun not intended, but noted) and started buying out every smoke shop in the state, trying to pick up some street cred with the punk rockers they were trying so hard to imitate, subsequently driving the price up 4-5 times.
I smoke a pipe now, have for the last few years - doesn't get any better than meerschaum.
Especially not 3 times in the same summary.
That's far too hack-y for even the hackiest of pr hacks.
Indeed.
This is no different than when the head of the TSA talks about how great a job he thinks the TSA is doing, or when a DEA agent talks about how horrible a drug marijuana is.
I believe the layman's term for this practice is 'not shitting where one eats.'
4) Itunes killed the record store. Which sucks.
Wax Tracks, Vintage Vinyl, and these guys beg to differ.
Looking around the town I live in, there are no less than 5 record stores still around, all apparently doing quite well for themselves.
Personally, I think there will always be a market for the 'durable good' version of digital things, as it's a lot harder for Amazon (or whoever) to remove my CD collection from my house than it is to just close my account and deny me access.
Digital distribution is a fad, just hasn't hit the backlash point yet.
Isn't shooting a gun upwards an incredibly dumb thing to do? Those bullets have to come down somewhere.
The first sentence is only a problem for people to dumb to be aware of the second sentence.
FTFA: “At approximately 3 p.m., a single sharp rifle crack rang out.” This would seem to refer quite specifically to the distinct sound of a rifle. Yes, the shooter should be arrested...you might note that I alluded to that.
... assuming the environmental terrorist who originated that quote wasn't lying through their teeth for the sake of sensationalism.
I think its time for US, the PUBLIC, to start CHARGING our ELECTED REPESENTATIVES with TREASON for doing this back handed, secretive bullshit. They need to go to prison and made an example of. I'm tired of these ELECTED TYRANTS trying to change the CONSTITUTION that THEY are SWORN TO UPHOLD and PROTECT !
I find your ideas intriguing, and wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
Also - how do you propose we go about charging elected representatives with treason? No judge I've ever met would be willing to issue the arrest orders on that.
This is why I think we need a digital bill of rights to stop this stuff from happening before it even gets going. I started a petition on the we the people sight. If you agree go sign it! Apparently I need 150 signatures just to get it properly listed. http://wh.gov/XLym
I'd rather focus on getting the government to honor the existing Bill of Rights, than waste time drafting up a new one for them to ignore.
FYI, just because your 'papers' and 'effects' are now digitized, does not mean they are no longer protected by the 4th Amendment.
Just a reminder before moaning about your privacy: Next time, think before you click. Unfortunately you'll have to wait four years to correct your mistake.
You, obviously, do not track Congressional voting records.
Assume everyone can read your email if it's not encrypted.
Which they do so criminally.
Which is what this bill aims to change.