Ah, I see - you're a member of that particular age set. Explains it all.
Indeed. Someone went to a public forum and spoke unfairly ill of a demographic to which I belong,
No, you perceive someone spoke unfairly regarding your generation; by your own admission, you lack the dataset to back said perception as fact. Therefore, it is not an unreasonable assumption to believe that you yourself share said opinion, and are posting merely as an overcompensation mechanism in a failed attempt to differentiate yourself from your admittedly inferior peers.
I see little difference between this and the reply "I see - you're a member of that particular race. Explains it all" to someone who accused you of racism.
Not surprising, given your previous admission (knowing or otherwise) of general ignorance. Fun fact: The human brain is not fully formed until the 25th year of life, regardless of race.
Not to mention, when you perceive that someone is stereotyping your generation in a manner you take exception to, would it not stand to reason that exemplifying said stereotype probably isn't the smartest way to go?
Hey, want to know what's more funny than accusing someone of being "ageist?" Doing so, then going on a 3 paragraph rant in which you A) make assumptions about the person's age, and B) lambast prior generations for perceived wrongs.
While I did make a guess as to your age, none of my arguments were based on it - it was the conclusion, not the assumption. And I never did "lambast prior generations" for anything. If you care to read my comment, I make no claims about the behavior of those older than myself whatsoever.
Face it, you made the same generalizations regarding age as you accuse me of. An adult (the definition of which has less to do with age, and more to do with maturity level) would own it and take responsibility (which, ironically, was my base premise). A child would deny it.
I don't see you owning your words, so, what did you think I would see in terms of your mental acuity?
Also "a three-paragraph rant" is a particularly dishonest way to characterize one paragraph summarizing a mathematical computation, one paragraph stating (but not arguing, as I do not agree) the views of others, and one paragraph of conclusion - the only one with any emotional content at all.
Yea, calling them 'paragraphs' would probably be insulting to all the actual writers out there. Sorry 'bout that, linguists!
You kids crack me up...
This quote is more insightful than expected. By using this group identifier ("you kids" indicating all of us, even though only I am talking) you are evoking stereotypes of my demographic against me, and simultaneously attempting to attribute my actions in this thread to all of "you kids".
Yea, and there's absolutely no way that was written purely for the sake of yanking your chain. I mean, who gets on the internet and writes stuff for the sake of fucking with other people? Nobody I know...:D
Suppose that my actions in this thread are inappropriate - where you crossed the line into ageism is where you assumed that this reflects on the rest of my age group.
Well, unless you're the AC who made the original post, you put yourself in the firing line when you responded. Seems a perfect time for a Shakespeare quote: "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt."
If you can't take the heat, stay the fuck off my lawn.
See, you think you've done something clever here, but all you've actually done is take 2 completely unrelated quotes out of context, and posted them next to each other in an attempt to create the illusion they are somehow related.
you should probably quit while you're ahead (well, OK, not 'ahead' persay, but not quite behind the entire pack yet...).
Why does the "third option" sound so suspiciously similar to the second one? If VLT is not one of the "new generation of more sensitive space telescopes", then I'll eat my shoes.
I believe by "space telescopes," the summary writer was specifically referring to telescopes deployed in space.
Not trying to bust balls (although it is quite excellent work, if I do say so myself), just doin' what we grammar Nazi's do best (which, contrary to appearance, is to help others sound more intelligent through grammatical correction)!
As someone who's not far out of that age group, I get the same feeling.
My situation, precisely.
Often I fear for the future of this world, seeing the kind of people our socio/economic/educational climate is generating these days... Part of me feels that I'm just getting to the point where I no longer understand what it's like to be young, dumb, and full of reproductive fluids; however, a larger part is firmly entrenched in the belief that the seemingly rampant ignorance of my youngers is a result of intentional dumbing-down...
Why do I get the sinking feeling this particular AC falls into the 'under 25' age group?
Perhaps because you are ageist.
Perhaps, but unlikely. More likely the reason is, in my own experience, the only people I've ever met who literally do not understand the concept of social responsibility, especially in regards to the American republic, are teenagers. Not to say that all people over 25 understand the concept, just that, if there are older folks who don't, I've never met them. Weltanschauung.
The real question here is, why are you all butthurt about it?
That's quite a gap, to assume we are almost 3 times as likely to eschew social responsibility.
Ah, I see - you're a member of that particular age set. Explains it all.
While I certainly have no data
That's quite evident... obvious by the emotional reaction. Not that there's a problem with that, except the fact that people who react emotionally trend towards eschewing logic and reason, although it's worth noting this sort of behavior knows no age limit.
Why do I get the feeling you're in the "definitely over 25" age group? Hint: It's because paint us with such a broad stroke that clearly you have already dichotomized the world into "you all" (the "adults") and "us" (the "children" - many of whom have mortgages/rents, bills, responsibilities, retirement accounts, careers and credit histories by the way).
Hey, want to know what's more funny than accusing someone of being "ageist?" Doing so, then going on a 3 paragraph rant in which you A) make assumptions about the person's age, and B) lambast prior generations for perceived wrongs.
You kids crack me up...
BTW, yea, I'm definitely over 25, but probably not by nearly as much as you think. It's just that I learned, quite early on, how to not sound like a sniveling little punk when I write responses.
I suspect that the judge placed some emphasis on the cost of re-trying all of the cases that are based on this piece of equipment, in light of its obsolescence moving foreword. As a minnesotan, I don't necessarily approve, but I would expect that the majority of those covicted with this equipment truely were drunk.
Maybe my response lacked the kind of hostility normally present on the internet, but I clearly stated a lack of approval.
"I don't necessarily" != "I don't"
Not by a long shot.
ProTip: Don't use qualifiers (such as "necessarily") unless you're certain their use won't cause your intention to be misinterpreted.
I suspect that the judge placed some emphasis on the cost of re-trying all of the cases that are based on this piece of equipment, in light of its obsolescence moving foreword
I suspect your thought process would be much easier to parse if you knew how to spell, but I digress...
In other words, actual justice is just too darn expensive? As far as piss-poor excuses go, that one ranks pretty fucking high.
We've convicted people of DUI for walking down the street
We? I don't get it. Are you implying that you, yourself, are responsible for this injustice? How can that be, when you have just declared your moral opposition to it? Were you in favor of it at one time, and since have flip-flopped your position?
I take it the several-thousand-year-old concept of a democratic republic is somehow new to you? Or perhaps it's the idea of social responsibility you're having trouble with...
Why do I get the sinking feeling this particular AC falls into the 'under 25' age group?
If they REALLY wanted to fix this, they would have left Bush's head there and digitally-added Obama's head right next to it. BOTH of these men deserve the ultimate punishment for the ~2 million humans they have either killed or maimed during their careers as president. I hope the International Criminal Court presses charges.
Contrary to what is apparently popular opinion, I totally agree with you, man*.
Funny how people can easily forget inhuman transgressions, so long as the individual committing them is the one said people voted for.
* Regarding the war crimes. TV shows, I couldn't give a shit less about.
All unilateral contracts are, by definition, exploitative of the party not in control of the contract terms; Think cell phone contracts.
noted, "customersploitation" is an abjectly moronic term. I prefer the normal pronunciation myself; to quote one B. B. Rodriguez, "the 'X' makes it sound cool."
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Ah, I see - you're a member of that particular age set. Explains it all.
Indeed. Someone went to a public forum and spoke unfairly ill of a demographic to which I belong,
No, you perceive someone spoke unfairly regarding your generation; by your own admission, you lack the dataset to back said perception as fact. Therefore, it is not an unreasonable assumption to believe that you yourself share said opinion, and are posting merely as an overcompensation mechanism in a failed attempt to differentiate yourself from your admittedly inferior peers.
I see little difference between this and the reply "I see - you're a member of that particular race. Explains it all" to someone who accused you of racism.
Not surprising, given your previous admission (knowing or otherwise) of general ignorance. Fun fact: The human brain is not fully formed until the 25th year of life, regardless of race.
Not to mention, when you perceive that someone is stereotyping your generation in a manner you take exception to, would it not stand to reason that exemplifying said stereotype probably isn't the smartest way to go?
Hey, want to know what's more funny than accusing someone of being "ageist?" Doing so, then going on a 3 paragraph rant in which you A) make assumptions about the person's age, and B) lambast prior generations for perceived wrongs.
While I did make a guess as to your age, none of my arguments were based on it - it was the conclusion, not the assumption. And I never did "lambast prior generations" for anything. If you care to read my comment, I make no claims about the behavior of those older than myself whatsoever.
Face it, you made the same generalizations regarding age as you accuse me of. An adult (the definition of which has less to do with age, and more to do with maturity level) would own it and take responsibility (which, ironically, was my base premise). A child would deny it.
I don't see you owning your words, so, what did you think I would see in terms of your mental acuity?
Also "a three-paragraph rant" is a particularly dishonest way to characterize one paragraph summarizing a mathematical computation, one paragraph stating (but not arguing, as I do not agree) the views of others, and one paragraph of conclusion - the only one with any emotional content at all.
Yea, calling them 'paragraphs' would probably be insulting to all the actual writers out there. Sorry 'bout that, linguists!
You kids crack me up...
This quote is more insightful than expected. By using this group identifier ("you kids" indicating all of us, even though only I am talking) you are evoking stereotypes of my demographic against me, and simultaneously attempting to attribute my actions in this thread to all of "you kids".
Yea, and there's absolutely no way that was written purely for the sake of yanking your chain. I mean, who gets on the internet and writes stuff for the sake of fucking with other people? Nobody I know... :D
Suppose that my actions in this thread are inappropriate - where you crossed the line into ageism is where you assumed that this reflects on the rest of my age group.
Well, unless you're the AC who made the original post, you put yourself in the firing line when you responded. Seems a perfect time for a Shakespeare quote: "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt."
If you can't take the heat, stay the fuck off my lawn.
See, you think you've done something clever here, but all you've actually done is take 2 completely unrelated quotes out of context, and posted them next to each other in an attempt to create the illusion they are somehow related.
you should probably quit while you're ahead (well, OK, not 'ahead' persay, but not quite behind the entire pack yet...).
Well said;
cut from the same cloth, you and I.
Why does the "third option" sound so suspiciously similar to the second one? If VLT is not one of the "new generation of more sensitive space telescopes", then I'll eat my shoes.
I believe by "space telescopes," the summary writer was specifically referring to telescopes deployed in space.
Future reference, then.
Not trying to bust balls (although it is quite excellent work, if I do say so myself), just doin' what we grammar Nazi's do best (which, contrary to appearance, is to help others sound more intelligent through grammatical correction)!
As someone who's not far out of that age group, I get the same feeling.
My situation, precisely.
Often I fear for the future of this world, seeing the kind of people our socio/economic/educational climate is generating these days... Part of me feels that I'm just getting to the point where I no longer understand what it's like to be young, dumb, and full of reproductive fluids; however, a larger part is firmly entrenched in the belief that the seemingly rampant ignorance of my youngers is a result of intentional dumbing-down...
Why do I get the sinking feeling this particular AC falls into the 'under 25' age group?
Perhaps because you are ageist.
Perhaps, but unlikely. More likely the reason is, in my own experience, the only people I've ever met who literally do not understand the concept of social responsibility, especially in regards to the American republic, are teenagers. Not to say that all people over 25 understand the concept, just that, if there are older folks who don't, I've never met them. Weltanschauung.
The real question here is, why are you all butthurt about it?
That's quite a gap, to assume we are almost 3 times as likely to eschew social responsibility.
Ah, I see - you're a member of that particular age set. Explains it all.
While I certainly have no data
That's quite evident... obvious by the emotional reaction. Not that there's a problem with that, except the fact that people who react emotionally trend towards eschewing logic and reason, although it's worth noting this sort of behavior knows no age limit.
Why do I get the feeling you're in the "definitely over 25" age group? Hint: It's because paint us with such a broad stroke that clearly you have already dichotomized the world into "you all" (the "adults") and "us" (the "children" - many of whom have mortgages/rents, bills, responsibilities, retirement accounts, careers and credit histories by the way).
Hey, want to know what's more funny than accusing someone of being "ageist?" Doing so, then going on a 3 paragraph rant in which you A) make assumptions about the person's age, and B) lambast prior generations for perceived wrongs.
You kids crack me up...
BTW, yea, I'm definitely over 25, but probably not by nearly as much as you think. It's just that I learned, quite early on, how to not sound like a sniveling little punk when I write responses.
you clearly implied it.
Only to those whose comprehension of English is minimal (which, I admit, is likely a majority of the population).
To those that do understand the English vernacular, it's obvious my statement was directed at the idea of the judge's rationale.
Don't get all butthurt. It wasn't meant to be taken personally.
To further clarify, by using the qualifier "necessarily," you change your meaning from:
I do not approve
to
I do not approve, except under specific yet unnamed conditions
Quoting myself:
I suspect that the judge placed some emphasis on the cost of re-trying all of the cases that are based on this piece of equipment, in light of its obsolescence moving foreword. As a minnesotan, I don't necessarily approve, but I would expect that the majority of those covicted with this equipment truely were drunk.
Maybe my response lacked the kind of hostility normally present on the internet, but I clearly stated a lack of approval.
"I don't necessarily" != "I don't"
Not by a long shot.
ProTip: Don't use qualifiers (such as "necessarily") unless you're certain their use won't cause your intention to be misinterpreted.
I thought all drilling was banned - Hope & Change I can believe in.
And I thought monkeys couldn't stop jerking off long enough to type a legible sentence, yet here you are...
I didn't say it was a good excuse.
And I didn't say that you said it was a good excuse, now did I?
what part of "I don't approve" didn't you understand?
The part where you never actually said that.
'Complacency mixed with the Culture of Fear,'
'like fuckin' babies,'
and
'yes, has been for quite some time.'
As a minnesotan, I don't necessarily approve, but I would expect that the majority of those covicted with this equipment truely were drunk.
So your argument is that someone should be wrongly convicted because a bunch of other people probably were guilty? I pray you never become a judge.
... and that the wrongly convicted should stay that way, because clearing their names would just be too darn expensive.
I suspect that the judge placed some emphasis on the cost of re-trying all of the cases that are based on this piece of equipment, in light of its obsolescence moving foreword
I suspect your thought process would be much easier to parse if you knew how to spell, but I digress...
In other words, actual justice is just too darn expensive? As far as piss-poor excuses go, that one ranks pretty fucking high.
We've convicted people of DUI for walking down the street
We? I don't get it. Are you implying that you, yourself, are responsible for this injustice? How can that be, when you have just declared your moral opposition to it? Were you in favor of it at one time, and since have flip-flopped your position?
I take it the several-thousand-year-old concept of a democratic republic is somehow new to you? Or perhaps it's the idea of social responsibility you're having trouble with...
Why do I get the sinking feeling this particular AC falls into the 'under 25' age group?
Meh. If I want to be entertained in such a fashion, I'll stick to Anne Mccaffrey.
If they REALLY wanted to fix this, they would have left Bush's head there and digitally-added Obama's head right next to it. BOTH of these men deserve the ultimate punishment for the ~2 million humans they have either killed or maimed during their careers as president. I hope the International Criminal Court presses charges.
Contrary to what is apparently popular opinion, I totally agree with you, man*.
Funny how people can easily forget inhuman transgressions, so long as the individual committing them is the one said people voted for.
* Regarding the war crimes. TV shows, I couldn't give a shit less about.
Everyone knows there are no black people in Westeros.
I don't. Of course, I also don't waste my life obsessing over poorly-written, over-sexualized drivel.
I doubt he watches much outside of The Cartoon Network...
If so, he's far more intelligent than I previously gave him credit for...
All unilateral contracts are, by definition, exploitative of the party not in control of the contract terms; Think cell phone contracts.
noted, "customersploitation" is an abjectly moronic term. I prefer the normal pronunciation myself; to quote one B. B. Rodriguez, "the 'X' makes it sound cool."
LOL what??? GarageBand costs like $40 and comes pre-installed *free* on every single Macintosh.
and yeah you can make hella sick beats using just garageband and some imagination. damn.
I wouldn't really consider that free, considering you have to buy an obscenely overpriced computer before you can so much as install it...
"Beat making software."
FWIW, Hydrogen is free.
Directions to the nearest soup kitchen.