No, you were thinking exactly as I was. Data needs hardware, and storage is used much more efficiently "up there", so yes, sales will be down. The question is, with everybody saying how the market is priced by supply and demand, are hardware prices collapsing? If not, then the market isn't doing so badly after all. A 0.2% decline in growth doesn't sound very impressive one way or another. Yeah, it could be billions, but it's spread petty thin.
Anyway the joke went over like a lead balloon with the moderators, oh well, whaddya gonna do?
You will need to install a government with all its bureaucracy and military to protect that control and keep the peace, otherwise it won't last. You will be overwhelmed and lose your property. See, it's exclusive property rights that make a sustainable monopoly possible, and that can only come from a powerful state.
You are right for the most part, and I agree, but I don't know if I would call it a fair fight. Some people do face far more difficult and frequent obstacles than others.
Say whaaa? That was so incomprehensible, I don't know how to respond..
I'll try one more time. Taxes are tacked onto the point of sale. The company is simply the administrator to collect those taxes. It never pays taxes from its own pocket, except maybe on capital, but they lobbied that down to damn near nothing also.
What in the world is the difficulty here? Is it the simplicity? Tell me...
I'm doing my part in November... It's a simple matter of voting for somebody else. There is no need for investigations and prosecution. There are more than two candidates on the ballot, so there is no need to vote for Trump if you don't lie him either. If they both lose, it means we are on our way to solving the problem.
As far as unending war goes. When has the war ever ended? The US has been at war steadily since the very beginning, against the natives, commies, drug dealers, terrorists(!), a myriad of targets to pick out. And now it's simply another business. Plenty of blood for everyone. Hillary is just carrying on a time honored tradition.
If we don't break the circle, don't expect anything different. Republicans/democrats can only give you more of the same old shit. Your choice.
You don't mean the same Rockefeller who used worker gangs to shake down the competition into selling out and buying government officials to look the other way, do you? You make him sound so innocent:-)
Usually it's Windows + Office + A POS program, which frequently is also subscription based and maintained remotely. If the office worker understands Ctrl-Alt-Del and how to connect a network cable, they're good to go.
That is something I never argued. What percentage do you think actually do say no? Not enough to affect the company, or even government policy as far as I can see.
The only way I know how to effectively tax a company is to go after the capital they are hording and keeping out of circulation. Then we would get somewhere.
Yeah, in the courtroom and on paper. In practice, other than rearranging some furniture and a chance of name plates on the door, nothing happened. The monopoly is as strong as ever. It still determines foreign policy.
Your view is conspiracy paranoia.
A redundant boilerplate cop out response. Why do you bother?
That is already happening. I can't open my old Cubase files. So far Microsoft has been pretty good about that. I can still open documents made in Office 4.3. Anyway, so why not reduce the in-house bureaucratic workload? And besides, it will be easier to hold Microsoft responsible for any security problems. Leasing software is the best options for a business, not only for bureaucracy, but liability also. It's much easier to pass the blame, and kick the lawsuits down the road.
I will attempt a small correction. The tax is not on the tag. It's added up at the register and you won't see it until you get your receipt. How much do you think the tax affected the decision to purchase in the first place? And what are the chances of you cancelling it and demanding a refund after seeing it? What is the deal here? I just don't get what you are arguing.
For a business with lots of terminals, this would be a godsend. They'll be able to fire the entire IT staff, and lease everything from Microsoft. No more license audits! Yippee!
How much faith do you have in the altruistic tendencies of companies to get less money out of you than they could?
Depends, the local bakery, auto mechanic, plumber, sure, they might, but Google, Apple, General Motors, General Mills, etc etc etc,,,? you're right, not even close to the mustard seed. They don't feel a thing until everything else slows down. The company is a tax collector, not a tax payer.
Not due to the tax. In fact, no, a general price increase did no such thing. I still have to pay bills and buy food and clothing, regardless the price. And middle/upper income people could hardly care less. Taxes might affect their business dealings, but not their personal habits.
High taxes can kill an economy, but the company and its officers will always be the very last to feel the pain, if they to feel any at all, ultimately using bankruptcy proceedings to stiff the creditors and renegotiate labor contracts. I don't know why you would feel this is not the case.
If you can show where that has ever been a chronic problem, please point me there. And even if it's true they will just lay people off. The company will not take the hit, and even if the company does, the executives will just find greener pastures and dissolve the company, and out of the ashes... you know the routine.
Sigh.
I did provide a link. I guess it depends on what you want to believe...
But they do. The price of the article is not reduced when taxes go up. You just see a higher sales tax or VAT tacked onto that price, meaning you do pay more. Nothing is coming out of the company's hide. I have yet to ever see that happen. The market will bear a lot of abuse just to have the latest piece of gimmickry. Also, supply and demand hardly play a part. Prices are arbitrarily set. This goes on throughout every big market, oil, shipping, agriculture, and Walmart, not just banking. Prices are based on wagers made in the broker's office
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No, you were thinking exactly as I was. Data needs hardware, and storage is used much more efficiently "up there", so yes, sales will be down. The question is, with everybody saying how the market is priced by supply and demand, are hardware prices collapsing? If not, then the market isn't doing so badly after all. A 0.2% decline in growth doesn't sound very impressive one way or another. Yeah, it could be billions, but it's spread petty thin.
Anyway the joke went over like a lead balloon with the moderators, oh well, whaddya gonna do?
There is no hardware in the Cloud®? All my data is stored in water droplets?
He got his name off a fancy shopping bag.
The guy is from Milan...
You will need to install a government with all its bureaucracy and military to protect that control and keep the peace, otherwise it won't last. You will be overwhelmed and lose your property. See, it's exclusive property rights that make a sustainable monopoly possible, and that can only come from a powerful state.
You are right for the most part, and I agree, but I don't know if I would call it a fair fight. Some people do face far more difficult and frequent obstacles than others.
Vote for the Giant Meteor... It will bring peace
Say whaaa? That was so incomprehensible, I don't know how to respond..
I'll try one more time. Taxes are tacked onto the point of sale. The company is simply the administrator to collect those taxes. It never pays taxes from its own pocket, except maybe on capital, but they lobbied that down to damn near nothing also.
What in the world is the difficulty here? Is it the simplicity? Tell me...
Because Hillary Clinton must be stopped...
I'm doing my part in November... It's a simple matter of voting for somebody else. There is no need for investigations and prosecution. There are more than two candidates on the ballot, so there is no need to vote for Trump if you don't lie him either. If they both lose, it means we are on our way to solving the problem.
As far as unending war goes. When has the war ever ended? The US has been at war steadily since the very beginning, against the natives, commies, drug dealers, terrorists(!), a myriad of targets to pick out. And now it's simply another business. Plenty of blood for everyone. Hillary is just carrying on a time honored tradition.
If we don't break the circle, don't expect anything different. Republicans/democrats can only give you more of the same old shit. Your choice.
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I wouldn't know. Read your contract
You don't mean the same Rockefeller who used worker gangs to shake down the competition into selling out and buying government officials to look the other way, do you? You make him sound so innocent :-)
Usually it's Windows + Office + A POS program, which frequently is also subscription based and maintained remotely. If the office worker understands Ctrl-Alt-Del and how to connect a network cable, they're good to go.
the customer can always say no.
That is something I never argued. What percentage do you think actually do say no? Not enough to affect the company, or even government policy as far as I can see.
The only way I know how to effectively tax a company is to go after the capital they are hording and keeping out of circulation. Then we would get somewhere.
Yeah, in the courtroom and on paper. In practice, other than rearranging some furniture and a chance of name plates on the door, nothing happened. The monopoly is as strong as ever. It still determines foreign policy.
Your view is conspiracy paranoia.
A redundant boilerplate cop out response. Why do you bother?
I think the point was that the results from the people who stayed were gender neutral.
That is already happening. I can't open my old Cubase files. So far Microsoft has been pretty good about that. I can still open documents made in Office 4.3. Anyway, so why not reduce the in-house bureaucratic workload? And besides, it will be easier to hold Microsoft responsible for any security problems. Leasing software is the best options for a business, not only for bureaucracy, but liability also. It's much easier to pass the blame, and kick the lawsuits down the road.
I will attempt a small correction. The tax is not on the tag. It's added up at the register and you won't see it until you get your receipt. How much do you think the tax affected the decision to purchase in the first place? And what are the chances of you cancelling it and demanding a refund after seeing it? What is the deal here? I just don't get what you are arguing.
For a business with lots of terminals, this would be a godsend. They'll be able to fire the entire IT staff, and lease everything from Microsoft. No more license audits! Yippee!
So we're back where we started. The company collects taxes, it does not pay them. I have yet to see them absorb it on the price tag.
How much faith do you have in the altruistic tendencies of companies to get less money out of you than they could?
Depends, the local bakery, auto mechanic, plumber, sure, they might, but Google, Apple, General Motors, General Mills, etc etc etc,,,? you're right, not even close to the mustard seed. They don't feel a thing until everything else slows down. The company is a tax collector, not a tax payer.
Not due to the tax. In fact, no, a general price increase did no such thing. I still have to pay bills and buy food and clothing, regardless the price. And middle/upper income people could hardly care less. Taxes might affect their business dealings, but not their personal habits.
High taxes can kill an economy, but the company and its officers will always be the very last to feel the pain, if they to feel any at all, ultimately using bankruptcy proceedings to stiff the creditors and renegotiate labor contracts. I don't know why you would feel this is not the case.
Lower demand for their product.
If you can show where that has ever been a chronic problem, please point me there. And even if it's true they will just lay people off. The company will not take the hit, and even if the company does, the executives will just find greener pastures and dissolve the company, and out of the ashes... you know the routine.
Sigh.
I did provide a link. I guess it depends on what you want to believe...
They don't "do" worse. It's that "women leave... roughly 7 times as often as men after they do badly in an interview.". It's like looking at unemployment figures without checking to see who gave up looking for a job.
But they do. The price of the article is not reduced when taxes go up. You just see a higher sales tax or VAT tacked onto that price, meaning you do pay more. Nothing is coming out of the company's hide. I have yet to ever see that happen. The market will bear a lot of abuse just to have the latest piece of gimmickry. Also, supply and demand hardly play a part. Prices are arbitrarily set. This goes on throughout every big market, oil, shipping, agriculture, and Walmart, not just banking. Prices are based on wagers made in the broker's office