This very closely aligns with what I was taught about an omniscient God and agency (pretty much the same concept as free will but it carries the connotation that your choices do have consequences). Basically, as an omniscient being operating on a higher plane, God knows us and how will will react and respond, so he knows the choices we will make. However, we operate on a lower plane and don't all that until after we have been in situations and see for ourselves (and prove to ourselves) how we react and respond. It is very similar to how parents who pay attention to their children can generally predict quite well what a kid will do in a certain situation and will let the kid make the choices and learn.
Which church is "the Church"? Catholics that follow the pope? Catholics that don't. Lutherans? Methodists? Moromons? Presbyterians? Greek Orthodox? Russion Orthodox? Baptists? Unitarians? Which of the Muslims sects?
Where do we get that one side of the debate claims the science is settled and, therefore, the debate is over? A person would have to be extremely dishonest to claim that the pro-AGW side has not been making that claim for the past few years now.
If the TSA can tell that you have pins and screws in your arm, I'm sure the fine doctors in Canada can figure it out as well. I've heard rumors that Canadian doctors have slightly more sophisticated imaging technology than the TSA.
Actually, no. The cause is not enough exercise/work. You can eat as many calories as you want as long as you expend enough energy to compensate, anything less makes you fat.
See how easy it is too justify the exact opposite. I can actually say that my version is more accurate to real life because you eventually reach a point where you are spending so much time expending energy that you cannot consume more calories and the system can reach equilibrium. You cannot go the other direction and expend so little energy that you can eat nothing. Besides, sitting on your ass all day and eating almost nothing will have its own consequences (poor circulation, bed sores, atrophied muscles, etc) whereas leading an active lifestyle generally prevents those problems.
As for the rest of your post... yogurt makes people to gluten sick because it contains glue? WTF. Gluten is a naturally occurring protein found in many whole grains (whole grains are good for us, right?). It has nothing to do with glue.
At the end, human gullibility and idiocy may mean that unless it is forbidden some will abuse it. Ah yes, the old "we know better and must protect the ignorant from themselves" routine. IOW, let's treat everyone as a slave lest they harm themselves.
Yes, it does include a bunch of those people. The point is that, at some point, we have to realize that we have to stop expecting a percentage of the population to support the rest. Right now, we are at 47%. If that is not the limit, then where is it? 66%, 90%. What will be the tipping point at which those paying say enough and stop paying or stop doing whatever it is that causes them to have to pay. Right now we use income as the measure of who pays what. At some point, people will simply realize that it is no longer worthwhile to earn an income and will then just live off what they earned previously. Do we then start confiscating their property to make up for it?
Which will require that the price goes up, which will result in all other prices going up, which will result in the Basic Living Wage going up which starts the cycle all over again. At some point, a $1000 BigMac is going to look ridiculous.
"Unlike how things are today, they'll have a bit of superfluous capital and could spend money on such things, in small ways." Yup, you nailed it right there. Ain't nobody printing books and making movies and releasing new records because ain't nobody buying them.
Since we pay far more than those not working, then I'd say we are probably paying for more than our fair share.
Half (or 47% if you want) of the people in the US pay zero or less (dollars not percentage) in income taxes and yet the rest of us are still underpaying?
You mean the sudden population decrease that is causing all the strain on SS and medicare as the boomers move into needing it. You have noticed how the US had something like 25 contributors for everybody drawing out when the boomers parents voted to implement it and then the boomers started all the zero population growth nonsense and can't figure out why the system is falling apart with a 5:1 ratio.
News flash. It ain't your money. You are already stealing it by proxy. Just because a thief has been stealing from the same place for years does not mean that the owner is stealing from the thief when he notices and stops the thief from stealing any more.
One of the bad things about a guaranteed income (which we already have in the US) is that it encourages people to do nothing except bitch and moan about their "paycheck" being to small and why can't they have all the nice things that those willing to work have so they vote for the politician who says he feels their pain and promises to increase their "paychecks" at the expense of the greedy, evil bastards still willing to work.
One of our Founding Fathers used the phrase "vote themselves an excess from the public coffers" to describe this situation.
An I believe you made his point for him with your oh so witty retort. You say that brain damage is what caused him to support your lazy ass and be man enough to raise three more individuals who will also pay for your lazy ass.
And you wonder why people are sick of the ungrateful hordes of assholes demanding their "paycheck" for siting on their asses?
You could at least thank him for buying you food and toys.
whatever. Maybe if we stopped calling it normal in the US to walk around with your ass hanging out and "axing" questions, the US would be a better place to live.
Exactly, as you point out, your friend made choices. Why do we have to pay for those choices? Us paying for him to do nothing because he doesn't like the life he can have after the choices he made is ridiculous.
They are called consequences and we, as a society, need to stop expecting that everybody else pay the consequences of our actions.
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SETH is true. I know two of them.
This very closely aligns with what I was taught about an omniscient God and agency (pretty much the same concept as free will but it carries the connotation that your choices do have consequences). Basically, as an omniscient being operating on a higher plane, God knows us and how will will react and respond, so he knows the choices we will make. However, we operate on a lower plane and don't all that until after we have been in situations and see for ourselves (and prove to ourselves) how we react and respond. It is very similar to how parents who pay attention to their children can generally predict quite well what a kid will do in a certain situation and will let the kid make the choices and learn.
Which church is "the Church"? Catholics that follow the pope? Catholics that don't. Lutherans? Methodists? Moromons? Presbyterians? Greek Orthodox? Russion Orthodox? Baptists? Unitarians? Which of the Muslims sects?
Where do we get that one side of the debate claims the science is settled and, therefore, the debate is over? A person would have to be extremely dishonest to claim that the pro-AGW side has not been making that claim for the past few years now.
If the TSA can tell that you have pins and screws in your arm, I'm sure the fine doctors in Canada can figure it out as well. I've heard rumors that Canadian doctors have slightly more sophisticated imaging technology than the TSA.
Ah, yes. The Republican ruled AMA that supports Obamacare and gun control. Got it.
Actually, no. The cause is not enough exercise/work. You can eat as many calories as you want as long as you expend enough energy to compensate, anything less makes you fat.
See how easy it is too justify the exact opposite. I can actually say that my version is more accurate to real life because you eventually reach a point where you are spending so much time expending energy that you cannot consume more calories and the system can reach equilibrium. You cannot go the other direction and expend so little energy that you can eat nothing. Besides, sitting on your ass all day and eating almost nothing will have its own consequences (poor circulation, bed sores, atrophied muscles, etc) whereas leading an active lifestyle generally prevents those problems.
As for the rest of your post... yogurt makes people to gluten sick because it contains glue? WTF. Gluten is a naturally occurring protein found in many whole grains (whole grains are good for us, right?). It has nothing to do with glue.
At the end, human gullibility and idiocy may mean that unless it is forbidden some will abuse it. Ah yes, the old "we know better and must protect the ignorant from themselves" routine. IOW, let's treat everyone as a slave lest they harm themselves.
Wait, who is being forced to drink soda?
Like caffeine?
Yes, it does include a bunch of those people. The point is that, at some point, we have to realize that we have to stop expecting a percentage of the population to support the rest. Right now, we are at 47%. If that is not the limit, then where is it? 66%, 90%. What will be the tipping point at which those paying say enough and stop paying or stop doing whatever it is that causes them to have to pay. Right now we use income as the measure of who pays what. At some point, people will simply realize that it is no longer worthwhile to earn an income and will then just live off what they earned previously. Do we then start confiscating their property to make up for it?
At the rate we are going with AI research and such, we won't have a solar system left so why bother asking the question? The answer will be moot.
Which will require that the price goes up, which will result in all other prices going up, which will result in the Basic Living Wage going up which starts the cycle all over again. At some point, a $1000 BigMac is going to look ridiculous.
"Unlike how things are today, they'll have a bit of superfluous capital and could spend money on such things, in small ways." Yup, you nailed it right there. Ain't nobody printing books and making movies and releasing new records because ain't nobody buying them.
No, we want everyone to contribute to the fullest extent they are capable of contributing.
We already do; we call it income tax.
Since we pay far more than those not working, then I'd say we are probably paying for more than our fair share.
Half (or 47% if you want) of the people in the US pay zero or less (dollars not percentage) in income taxes and yet the rest of us are still underpaying?
You mean the sudden population decrease that is causing all the strain on SS and medicare as the boomers move into needing it. You have noticed how the US had something like 25 contributors for everybody drawing out when the boomers parents voted to implement it and then the boomers started all the zero population growth nonsense and can't figure out why the system is falling apart with a 5:1 ratio.
News flash. It ain't your money. You are already stealing it by proxy. Just because a thief has been stealing from the same place for years does not mean that the owner is stealing from the thief when he notices and stops the thief from stealing any more.
So you made bad choices and your life sucks. Why is this my problem?
And even then we really didn't remove it... We upgraded it to fund cell phones instead of tethered phones.
One of the bad things about a guaranteed income (which we already have in the US) is that it encourages people to do nothing except bitch and moan about their "paycheck" being to small and why can't they have all the nice things that those willing to work have so they vote for the politician who says he feels their pain and promises to increase their "paychecks" at the expense of the greedy, evil bastards still willing to work.
One of our Founding Fathers used the phrase "vote themselves an excess from the public coffers" to describe this situation.
An I believe you made his point for him with your oh so witty retort. You say that brain damage is what caused him to support your lazy ass and be man enough to raise three more individuals who will also pay for your lazy ass.
And you wonder why people are sick of the ungrateful hordes of assholes demanding their "paycheck" for siting on their asses?
You could at least thank him for buying you food and toys.
Yeah, we get it. Communism won and those who don't want to perpetually ask others to steal for them must now suffer along with those who do.
Just exactly who is going to pay for the communist/socialist programs when nobody is working because there is no benefit to working harder?
whatever. Maybe if we stopped calling it normal in the US to walk around with your ass hanging out and "axing" questions, the US would be a better place to live.
Exactly, as you point out, your friend made choices. Why do we have to pay for those choices? Us paying for him to do nothing because he doesn't like the life he can have after the choices he made is ridiculous.
They are called consequences and we, as a society, need to stop expecting that everybody else pay the consequences of our actions.