How difficult would it be to write a simple domain scanning ocx,executable etc that fires off a bunch of tcp modbus register writes...may take all of 10 minutes or so. Yes it could do some serious damage if not cause bodily harm or death(think machine operators).Many of these plc's on most networks are just directly connected without a ounce of security on them. Ever work in a manufacturing facility? Most of this stuff is ladder programmed etc by engineers who have no clue what tcp or modbus protocol even is, much less making it secure.
"All Linux programmers are creme de la creme, all Linux administrators are top-notch engineers, and nobody ever botches an upgrade or releases a sour version. In fact, every IT mishap of the last 30 years can be directly traced to pointy-eyebrowed, mustache-twirling marketing villains who convince hapless stakeholders to install Microsoft products."
Wow you hit the nail on the head that is a fairly accurate description.....Oh go cry on the windows magazine site or something, this site is called slashdot as in/. not c:\
The day Obama flat out ignored 25,000 of his supporters, the largest group on his web site at the time by voting yes for FISA he lost my vote right then and there. Do you really want the govt in charge of your health care system? Think about it, what program does the govt run now successfully? Way to radical....
Now I guess it is possible to get some sheep to vote one way or the other based on some sort of project of this nature but I highly doubt the effectiveness. I would say a vast majority of the thinking/voting public has already sided with a candidate.
First off your primary company mission is not software development it is just a cost of doing business. Next thing you have to ask yourself is anything really broken? I recently got hauled into a project which by all accounts sounds similar. The code and architecture of this system is very fragile and difficult to maintain however it does work and performs probably one of the companies most mission critical functions. I am presented with two courses of action, rewrite to make it more stable and maintainable, or do nothing and maintain what I got. I ended up choosing the latter because the current running system works, maintaining it is just a cost of doing business. A rewrite could possibly make it better but not worth the investment in time. A great decision maker with see both sides of the issue, this is also most likely why the CEO is unconcerned.
Some people are bound to see only the negatives but not the opportunities that present themselves. There is opportunity in the waiting here if you are willing to go out and grasp it. There is nothing stopping any of us from taking advantage of these low paid programmer or engineers. Now I certainly would not bother farting around with any h1b visa's but there is a bundle of money to be made by outsourcing grunt work to third world programmers for 5 bucks a hour. Put your great American brain to use implementing great ideas using cheap foreign labor.
How many of you take the insurance discount at work for submitting to a health screening? About two years ago I had a HR weenie harping on me to take the screening for the discount...up until the point I told him to pack sand. Right about the time that was going on was when I got notified from the VA that my medical records had been stolen.
Hell I would not tell my own wife or employer much less the public.
No Steve you should not tell anyone, it is none of their business.
Make me ceo for a day, every single person that was involved with shipping that would be fired immediately for stupidity. I would certainly start with the manager in charge of the group that printed and packed those.
How about some examples instead of just trash talking?
No I am not a GTK developer but am rather curious as to you problem with the took kit and or the api that it exposes. I have however written wrapper code around it more than once and found it the be rather flexible and well thought out.
Actually yes it is a good solution to the problem. The work around causes more round tripping to the x server this is why it is not a acceptable method for a release. However, you as a developer can implement the work around thus the performance hit is on you.
Developers forget that X is a network protocol and is designed to be run remotely not just on the local machine. In this case the GTK team wants to make sure they do not impact remote application performance by implementing this solution so they leave it to the developer.
Actually, one of GTK's biggest strength's lies in the fact that it is programmed in plain old C. Because of this it is much easier to integrate with other languages that cannot handle C++ name munging. I cannot see any significant value of doing such a conversion or fork.
You want to know the reason everyone is paying over 4 bucks a gallon for gas? All of this outsourcing to China and India is the real reason behind it. When you start pumping most of our manufacturing over to these countries it greatly increases the demand for energy driving up demand for fuel. Speculation has little to do with it the root problem goes back outsourcing. Every single American worker should be pounding on congress to stop this idiocy. Not only are these companies sending jobs overseas but at the same time they are tightening the noose on us at home by causing us to pay increasingly more for energy.
You always hear from the media that the increase in energy demand from China is causing the increases. Well the only reason China has more demand for energy is because all of our manufacturing jobs are now there.
Our govt needs to be trampled on for allowing this to happen.
Graphic arts? Are you hiring a artist or a programmer, I would not have even applied for the position if it had those requirements listed. The first thing that would have gone through my mind is that they are looking for someone to do some front page crap.
So what he is really saying is he voted yes for a bill that does nothing. All domestic wiretaps had to go through the FISA court to be legal before this bill.
You're the project software engineer. I noticed that was singular. Is there just one product software engineer? Like sort of the managing engineer for the project?
Yeah. Project Software Systems Engineer is the title. And our software was developed -- the flight system software was developed in three different locations. Lockheed Martin developed the spacecraft software, and then we had payload software developed by both the University of Arizona and the Jet Propulsion Laboratory.
So Peter what is it that you do here?
I hand specifications to engineers that write the flight software.
There is no compromise when it comes to the Constitution.
I consider a yes vote yesterday as a act of treason against our nation. I would not vote for him no more than I would vote for John Anthony Walker http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Anthony_Walker.
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How difficult would it be to write a simple domain scanning ocx,executable etc that fires
off a bunch of tcp modbus register writes...may take all of 10 minutes or so. Yes it could
do some serious damage if not cause bodily harm or death(think machine operators).Many of these
plc's on most networks are just directly connected without a ounce of security on them. Ever work
in a manufacturing facility? Most of this stuff is ladder programmed etc by engineers who
have no clue what tcp or modbus protocol even is, much less making it secure.
"All Linux programmers are creme de la creme, all Linux administrators are top-notch engineers, and nobody ever botches an upgrade or releases a sour version. In fact, every IT mishap of the last 30 years can be directly traced to pointy-eyebrowed, mustache-twirling marketing villains who convince hapless stakeholders to install Microsoft products."
Wow you hit the nail on the head that is a fairly accurate description.....Oh go cry on the windows magazine site or something, this site is called slashdot as in /. not c:\
Sounds like someones marketing department is writing checks they cannot cash.
Looks like the LSE is the one taking it in the shorts today.
The day Obama flat out ignored 25,000 of his supporters, the largest group on his
web site at the time by voting yes for FISA he lost my vote right then and there. Do
you really want the govt in charge of your health care system? Think about it, what
program does the govt run now successfully? Way to radical....
Now I guess it is possible to get some sheep to vote one way or the other based on some
sort of project of this nature but I highly doubt the effectiveness. I would say
a vast majority of the thinking/voting public has already sided with a candidate.
AV Software Definition: A alarm system that alerts you when you are already screwed.
The real question is what else do these laptops have on them, root kits, bots, trojans, keyloggers?
First off your primary company mission is not software development it is just a cost of doing business. Next thing you have to ask yourself is anything really broken? I recently got hauled into a project which by all accounts sounds similar. The code and architecture of this system is very fragile and difficult to maintain however it does work and performs probably one of the companies most mission critical functions. I am presented with two courses of action, rewrite to make it more stable and maintainable, or do nothing and maintain what I got. I ended up choosing the latter because the current running system works, maintaining it is just a cost of doing business. A rewrite could possibly make it better but not worth the investment in time. A great decision maker with see both sides of the issue, this is also most likely why the CEO is unconcerned.
Actually there is a very good solution for the situation you describe...
Some people are bound to see only the negatives but not the opportunities that present themselves. There is
opportunity in the waiting here if you are willing to go out and grasp it. There is nothing stopping any of
us from taking advantage of these low paid programmer or engineers. Now I certainly would not bother farting around
with any h1b visa's but there is a bundle of money to be made by outsourcing grunt work to third world programmers
for 5 bucks a hour. Put your great American brain to use implementing great ideas using cheap foreign labor.
How many of you take the insurance discount at work for submitting to a health screening? About two
years ago I had a HR weenie harping on me to take the screening for the discount...up until the point
I told him to pack sand. Right about the time that was going on was when I got notified from the VA
that my medical records had been stolen.
Hell I would not tell my own wife or employer much less the public.
No Steve you should not tell anyone, it is none of their business.
Shhhhhhhhh....lets just keep that a secret shall we!
Make me ceo for a day, every single person that was involved with shipping that would be fired immediately for stupidity. I would certainly start with the manager in charge of the group that printed and packed those.
Whimp, how the hell can a guy get any ice fishing done when it is above freezing.
furrowing their brows in a vane attempt to understand how men dare defy the laws imposed by God!
We have been watching Farve do it for years!
Please feel free to define horrid mess?
How about some examples instead of just trash talking?
No I am not a GTK developer but am rather curious as to you problem with the took kit and or the api that it exposes. I have
however written wrapper code around it more than once and found it the be rather flexible and well thought out.
Actually yes it is a good solution to the problem. The work around causes more round tripping to the x server this
is why it is not a acceptable method for a release. However, you as a developer can implement the work around thus
the performance hit is on you.
Developers forget that X is a network protocol and is designed to be run remotely not
just on the local machine. In this case the GTK team wants to make sure they do not
impact remote application performance by implementing this solution
so they leave it to the developer.
Actually, one of GTK's biggest strength's lies in the fact that it is programmed in plain old C. Because
of this it is much easier to integrate with other languages that cannot handle C++ name munging. I cannot
see any significant value of doing such a conversion or fork.
And it is our job to dig these other countries out of poverty? My wallet disagrees with that stupid statement.
You want to know the reason everyone is paying over 4 bucks a gallon for gas? All of this outsourcing
to China and India is the real reason behind it. When you start pumping most of our manufacturing over
to these countries it greatly increases the demand for energy driving up demand for fuel. Speculation
has little to do with it the root problem goes back outsourcing. Every single American worker should
be pounding on congress to stop this idiocy. Not only are these companies sending jobs overseas but
at the same time they are tightening the noose on us at home by causing us to pay increasingly more for
energy.
You always hear from the media that the increase in energy demand from China is causing the increases. Well
the only reason China has more demand for energy is because all of our manufacturing jobs are now there.
Our govt needs to be trampled on for allowing this to happen.
Graphic arts? Are you hiring a artist or a programmer, I would not have even applied for the position if it had those requirements
listed. The first thing that would have gone through my mind is that they are looking for someone to do some front page crap.
Let me know when I can pump it in my car....
If it where true at the current price of gas someone would be slamming in a plant the very next day.
So what he is really saying is he voted yes for a bill that does nothing. All domestic
wiretaps had to go through the FISA court to be legal before this bill.
You're the project software engineer. I noticed that was singular. Is there just one product software engineer? Like sort of the managing engineer for the project?
Yeah. Project Software Systems Engineer is the title. And our software was developed -- the flight system software was developed in three different locations. Lockheed Martin developed the spacecraft software, and then we had payload software developed by both the University of Arizona and the Jet Propulsion Laboratory.
So Peter what is it that you do here?
I hand specifications to engineers that write the flight software.
So you take the papers to them?
Well no my secretary does that...
There is no compromise when it comes to the Constitution.
I consider a yes vote yesterday as a act of treason against our nation. I would not
vote for him no more than I would vote for John Anthony Walker http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Anthony_Walker.
Now we need these three big boys to jump on board with the same claim.....gas prices will be barely over a dollar within weeks.