Hence, *approximately* 100%. That wasn't meant as a cynical jab at the orignial posting, but as a typical approximation by physicists. (Long years of bad habits die extremely hard!)
Yeah, but you forget that the van Allen belts will shield approximately 100% of that radiation. As long as you stay within a few hundred miles of Earth, you're ok... you ARE within a few hundred miles of Earth, right?
Wow! It took me 4 hours to figure out what you guys were picking on... I'm sooo embarassed. Well, not really:) I bet my HS French teacher would have me shot, though.
...that deciding what to do about one of the largest companies on the planet that has been found guilty of monopolistic practices is as cut and dried as sentencing a murderer or rapist? Or are you asinine enough to think that depriving the average clueless newbie of choices is as bad as taking that person's life?
Ignore for the moment the types of actions here. With violent felons, the decision typically is a) do we just kill them (for murders and occasionally for those convicted of treason), or b) how long do we lock them away?
With a large multinational like M$, you have to take into account a great many more issues... stock splits, business reorganization, splitting the work staff, how to handle satellite offices in foreign countries, etc.
This is much more like divorce proceedings than sentencing. With a divorce, one party submits a list of items they believe they should get, then the other party responds with corrections, etc. This goes on and on until both sides have reached an agreement. The only real difference is that, in this case, a 'third party' is forcing the 'divorce' of a large entity into separate entities.
Now, I detest M$ practices/policies as much as the next Linux Zealot (TM:) but let's be reasonable. AFAWK, M$ has never actually killed anyone.
You should send this to 'the company whose name we cannot use in a derogatory manner' and ask them to reconcile their license agreement with the Trademark Dilution Act. I'd love to see the rationale involved!
Yeah, a lady at my son's daycare said she moved to Cary in 1990 (the same year I started at NCSU). When she moved there, the population was around 17k. Last I heard, it was between 80-90k. That's in 10 years.
Scary thing is that Apex is currently around 15k... wonder if the same thing will happen there this decade? I hope not. I have my eyes on a couple of nice houses out in that area!
BTW, what do you think of that new stop light that Cisco paid to have installed on Davis? I stopped driving that way because of it...
Living off Davis Drive, then? While it may be that prices for houses have gone up around here in the recent past, the average 3 bedroom home in Wake Co. is still under $200k. That's a FAR cry from SV... $55k/year will actually buy you a home and keep you out of the Moore St. shelter;)
Eric (who occasionally drives right by your house!)
This is just a statement of the *equivalence* of mass and energy. This equation just specifies how much energy you can get out of the destruction/conversion of a particular amount of mass.
The energy of anything is correctly E = sqrt((pc)^2 + (m_0*c^2)^2). Thus, when an object has no rest mass m_0, it's energy reduces to E = pc. Since photons fall into this category, and since the momentum p of a photon is h/lambda (Planck's constant over wavelength), E = pc = hc/lambda = hf (where f*lambda=c) is more appropriate for massless particles like photons.
Lessee... Around 8-10, it was BASIC on a TRS-80. Then, as a HS senior, a semester of C that was all but forgotten. Next, as a sophmore in college who was beginning an undergrad research project, it was FORTRAN 77 on VMS (later HP-UX). As a grad student, it was an eclectic mix of F77 and F90, with an intro to C++ thrown in. Then I picked up PERL so's I could do some personal web projects. Finally, when I got a job as a software engineering consultant, it was on to (PL/)SQL.
I can't think of a one of them that I'd want to START on... Maybe FORTRAN. It's a very straight forward language for the most part.
Let me think... I want to do something to piss off a lot of people. I'll write a virus to fsck up Apache. If it actually spread like ILOVEYOU, well then *POOF*! 60% of the web is gone.
I'll bet you that almost all of the computers out there that aren't servers are workstations/personal computers for someone who DOES browse the web. Those users aren't going to be happy about this, not one bit.
Yup. In sed, s/foo/bar/ replaces foo with bar. s/foo/bar/i replaces foo, Foo, FOO, FoO, etc. to bar. It's the trailing 'i' that makes it case insensitive.
An almost total lack of lawyer-speak. I'm impressed, guys. And I'm interested in seeing any possible justifications MS can put forth. Keep fighting the good fight!
Have you got the money to fund a legal battle against a multinational bank with trillions of dollars at its hands (yes, that's a t, not a b or m)? I don't.
Disregard the fact that you might well win money in a countersuit... would you want to risk the chance that you'd lose (think... this is the wonderful American judicial system we're talking about here) and have to pay off BoAs high priced lawyers? I wouldn't.
I agree that BoA are just being ruthless bastards, but I'm sad to say that with the current status of the judicial system, might (read money) does make right...
Sure you're missing something... like the fact that they are too stupid to realize they can block access from particular IP addresses. I mean, what do you want from an IT department consisting of a bunch of failed tellers who took an MCSE class?
The US, Norway, and many other countries all agreed to a particular set of copyright laws called the Berne convention. That pretty much means that breaking copyright in most countries is pursuable by the courts of any other country (notwithstanding our great friends like Iraq, Libya, etc.)
Unless you live in a country without decent diplomatic relations with the US, I'd not suggest you go publicly violating anyone's copyright.
The DMCA is another matter altogether. 1) It governs *access* to copyrighted material and 2) it's a US law, not part of the Berne convention (yet... gods that's a scary thought).
Nb. I'm NOT trying to get into a discussion of the DeCSS case, just clearing up a misconception.
Not at all. I'd be happy with a couple extra hours a day. Just think of all the little things you always wanted to do, but couldn't find the time to do them!
25 or 26 hours a day would be great, at least until businesses convinced Congress that the work day should be expanded to 9 or 10 hours a day to compensate. That would suck...
Did you get a copy of the ILOVEYOU email or attachment? Did you look at the source code? I did. I can tell you for a fact that you had to open the attachment through Windows Scripting Host for it to do ANYTHING! It was a Visual Basic script. Those don't do anything by themselves. I have a copy of it on my HD, and all my jpgs and mp3s are just fine...
Go read the article you posted the link to. All references to ILOVEYOU are *COMPARISONS*.
They quite clearly state: "Email viruses are now spreading WITHOUT THE USER OPENING ANY ATTACHMENT..... This is by far the fastest growing virus distribution problem and ripe for a hugely destructive event - at least as large as the ILOVEYOU virus." They make no claims about ILOVEYOU spreading in this manner. They simply use the havoc-level of ILOVEYOU as a baseline for destructiveness.
The virus they are referring to in this case is the Kak virus.
Thanks to Hurst Dawg for pointing this out for me while I was away from/. You'll also notice that the timestamp formats are different. Big deal. You do know that you can set those in your user preferences, right? I just figured everyone would realize that a difference only in the hour field would be a matter of time zone differences... oopsie. I guess not everyone catches on that fast.
Microsoft's letter specifies a number of comments which include a 'trade secret'. One of those listed is the following:
Comments Containing A Copy of the Specification: . . "by smartin on Tuesday, May 02, @02:20PM EST (#86)"
Now, I went and looked at this comment. Wanna know the big secret? Here goes:
Posting the data is all well and good, but.... (Score:2) by smartin on 03:20 PM May 2nd, 2000 EST (#86)
What happens to the people that implement it (ie. the Samba guys) even if they obtain the information without intentionally breaking the license. Are they exposing themselves to expensive litigation? Are they endangering the project?
Ummm... exactly where is there a trade secret in this post? I'm waiting...
The purpose of orbiting telescopes is to avoid atmospheric absorption/distortion of the signal. Earth's atmosphere is opaque to many bands of IR and UV lights corresponding to atomic and molecular transition lines. Of course, atmospheric turbulence can wreak havoc with visible light. However, at the high X-ray energies they are looking at, the atmosphere is practiaclly transparent.
Also, the cost of an orbiting satellite is significantly higher than that of a ground based instrument, and with the booming Australian and Japanese space programs, they would have had to shell out more bucks to NASA or ESA to launch the thing.
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Hence, *approximately* 100%. That wasn't meant as a cynical jab at the orignial posting, but as a typical approximation by physicists. (Long years of bad habits die extremely hard!)
Eric
Yeah, but you forget that the van Allen belts will shield approximately 100% of that radiation. As long as you stay within a few hundred miles of Earth, you're ok... you ARE within a few hundred miles of Earth, right?
Eric
Wow! It took me 4 hours to figure out what you guys were picking on... I'm sooo embarassed. Well, not really :) I bet my HS French teacher would have me shot, though.
Eric
Just replace the www with partners and viola... instant access.
Try this link
Eric
*Emphasis added
Eric
The clueless moron wrote:
"What M$ has done is worse than killing people."
I'll give you a choice: I could kill you now, or force you to use Windows for the next 10 years... which would you choose?
You are entirely full of shit if you believe M$s actions are worse than murder and rape.
Go back and hide under your bridge, you clueless troll.
...that deciding what to do about one of the largest companies on the planet that has been found guilty of monopolistic practices is as cut and dried as sentencing a murderer or rapist? Or are you asinine enough to think that depriving the average clueless newbie of choices is as bad as taking that person's life?
:) but let's be reasonable. AFAWK, M$ has never actually killed anyone.
Ignore for the moment the types of actions here. With violent felons, the decision typically is a) do we just kill them (for murders and occasionally for those convicted of treason), or b) how long do we lock them away?
With a large multinational like M$, you have to take into account a great many more issues... stock splits, business reorganization, splitting the work staff, how to handle satellite offices in foreign countries, etc.
This is much more like divorce proceedings than sentencing. With a divorce, one party submits a list of items they believe they should get, then the other party responds with corrections, etc. This goes on and on until both sides have reached an agreement. The only real difference is that, in this case, a 'third party' is forcing the 'divorce' of a large entity into separate entities.
Now, I detest M$ practices/policies as much as the next Linux Zealot (TM
Eric
You should send this to 'the company whose name we cannot use in a derogatory manner' and ask them to reconcile their license agreement with the Trademark Dilution Act. I'd love to see the rationale involved!
Eric
Yeah, a lady at my son's daycare said she moved to Cary in 1990 (the same year I started at NCSU). When she moved there, the population was around 17k. Last I heard, it was between 80-90k. That's in 10 years.
Scary thing is that Apex is currently around 15k... wonder if the same thing will happen there this decade? I hope not. I have my eyes on a couple of nice houses out in that area!
BTW, what do you think of that new stop light that Cisco paid to have installed on Davis? I stopped driving that way because of it...
Eric
Living off Davis Drive, then? While it may be that prices for houses have gone up around here in the recent past, the average 3 bedroom home in Wake Co. is still under $200k. That's a FAR cry from SV... $55k/year will actually buy you a home and keep you out of the Moore St. shelter ;)
Eric (who occasionally drives right by your house!)
This is just a statement of the *equivalence* of mass and energy. This equation just specifies how much energy you can get out of the destruction/conversion of a particular amount of mass.
The energy of anything is correctly E = sqrt((pc)^2 + (m_0*c^2)^2). Thus, when an object has no rest mass m_0, it's energy reduces to E = pc. Since photons fall into this category, and since the momentum p of a photon is h/lambda (Planck's constant over wavelength), E = pc = hc/lambda = hf (where f*lambda=c) is more appropriate for massless particles like photons.
Eric
Lessee... Around 8-10, it was BASIC on a TRS-80. Then, as a HS senior, a semester of C that was all but forgotten. Next, as a sophmore in college who was beginning an undergrad research project, it was FORTRAN 77 on VMS (later HP-UX). As a grad student, it was an eclectic mix of F77 and F90, with an intro to C++ thrown in. Then I picked up PERL so's I could do some personal web projects. Finally, when I got a job as a software engineering consultant, it was on to (PL/)SQL.
I can't think of a one of them that I'd want to START on... Maybe FORTRAN. It's a very straight forward language for the most part.
Eric
Let me think... I want to do something to piss off a lot of people. I'll write a virus to fsck up Apache. If it actually spread like ILOVEYOU, well then *POOF*! 60% of the web is gone.
I'll bet you that almost all of the computers out there that aren't servers are workstations/personal computers for someone who DOES browse the web. Those users aren't going to be happy about this, not one bit.
Eric
Yup. In sed, s/foo/bar/ replaces foo with bar. s/foo/bar/i replaces foo, Foo, FOO, FoO, etc. to bar. It's the trailing 'i' that makes it case insensitive.
Eric
An almost total lack of lawyer-speak. I'm impressed, guys. And I'm interested in seeing any possible justifications MS can put forth. Keep fighting the good fight!
Eric
Don't forget about forestalling the Y2.038K 'bug' for another few billion years!
Eric
That's true... I wouldn't do anything over a C&D, but a subpoena (or whatever you get when someone takes you to court) would probably do the trick.
Eric
Have you got the money to fund a legal battle against a multinational bank with trillions of dollars at its hands (yes, that's a t, not a b or m)? I don't.
Disregard the fact that you might well win money in a countersuit... would you want to risk the chance that you'd lose (think... this is the wonderful American judicial system we're talking about here) and have to pay off BoAs high priced lawyers? I wouldn't.
I agree that BoA are just being ruthless bastards, but I'm sad to say that with the current status of the judicial system, might (read money) does make right...
Eric
Sure you're missing something... like the fact that they are too stupid to realize they can block access from particular IP addresses. I mean, what do you want from an IT department consisting of a bunch of failed tellers who took an MCSE class?
Eric
The US, Norway, and many other countries all agreed to a particular set of copyright laws called the Berne convention. That pretty much means that breaking copyright in most countries is pursuable by the courts of any other country (notwithstanding our great friends like Iraq, Libya, etc.)
Unless you live in a country without decent diplomatic relations with the US, I'd not suggest you go publicly violating anyone's copyright.
The DMCA is another matter altogether. 1) It governs *access* to copyrighted material and 2) it's a US law, not part of the Berne convention (yet... gods that's a scary thought).
Nb. I'm NOT trying to get into a discussion of the DeCSS case, just clearing up a misconception.
Eric
Not at all. I'd be happy with a couple extra hours a day. Just think of all the little things you always wanted to do, but couldn't find the time to do them!
25 or 26 hours a day would be great, at least until businesses convinced Congress that the work day should be expanded to 9 or 10 hours a day to compensate. That would suck...
Eric
Did you get a copy of the ILOVEYOU email or attachment? Did you look at the source code? I did. I can tell you for a fact that you had to open the attachment through Windows Scripting Host for it to do ANYTHING! It was a Visual Basic script. Those don't do anything by themselves. I have a copy of it on my HD, and all my jpgs and mp3s are just fine...
Go read the article you posted the link to. All references to ILOVEYOU are *COMPARISONS*.
They quite clearly state: "Email viruses are now spreading WITHOUT THE USER OPENING ANY ATTACHMENT..... This is by far the fastest growing virus distribution problem and ripe for a hugely destructive event - at least as large as the ILOVEYOU virus." They make no claims about ILOVEYOU spreading in this manner. They simply use the havoc-level of ILOVEYOU as a baseline for destructiveness.
The virus they are referring to in this case is the Kak virus.
Eric
Thanks to Hurst Dawg for pointing this out for me while I was away from /. You'll also notice that the timestamp formats are different. Big deal. You do know that you can set those in your user preferences, right? I just figured everyone would realize that a difference only in the hour field would be a matter of time zone differences... oopsie. I guess not everyone catches on that fast.
Eric
Comments Containing A Copy of the Specification:
.
.
"by smartin on Tuesday, May 02, @02:20PM EST (#86)"
Now, I went and looked at this comment. Wanna know the big secret? Here goes:
Posting the data is all well and good, but.... (Score:2)
by smartin on 03:20 PM May 2nd, 2000 EST (#86)
What happens to the people that implement it (ie. the Samba guys) even if they obtain the information without intentionally breaking the license. Are they exposing themselves to expensive litigation? Are they endangering the project?
Ummm... exactly where is there a trade secret in this post? I'm waiting...
Eric
The purpose of orbiting telescopes is to avoid atmospheric absorption/distortion of the signal. Earth's atmosphere is opaque to many bands of IR and UV lights corresponding to atomic and molecular transition lines. Of course, atmospheric turbulence can wreak havoc with visible light. However, at the high X-ray energies they are looking at, the atmosphere is practiaclly transparent.
Also, the cost of an orbiting satellite is significantly higher than that of a ground based instrument, and with the booming Australian and Japanese space programs, they would have had to shell out more bucks to NASA or ESA to launch the thing.
Eric