Part of working to change laws is convincing others that the laws are wrong.
As I said, by posting this here, Jon is preaching to the choir. Take the fight to those who disagree...
Also, if the internet is public, are the phone lines public? If you rent a house, does the landlord have the right to look through your shopping bags before you enter the house?
Good point, but phone conversations are between you and other parties that you contact. Web surfing is a means of accessing public information from public "electronic bulletin boards". I don't expect quite the same level of privacy in this instance.
Looking at this from an analytical standpoint... You downloaded the mp3. The band got squat. Cause and (lack of) effect. What the band DID get money from is that you then went out and paid money for the album. Had you less scruples, you could have waited for someone else to buy the album the day it came out, rip it to mp3, and let you copy it. You didn't, good for you. But the fact remains the same: TMMB didn't get squat just because you dl'd a clip of theirs. You said it yourself: 'just where does the Bosstone's royalty money from my CD purchase go?' (Emphasis added).
That's like saying that, because I listen to a particular band on the radio, they get money from it. No, they only get money if I'm inspired enough by what I hear to actually go out and buy the album.
Granted, the fact that you liked what you heard led you to the decision that you should go out and get the album. Had you not had access to mp3s, do you really think you couldn't have come up with some other way to listen to the music first? Most music stores will let you listen to the album in the store before you ever shell out money for it.
Copyright Guru... that's funny. I didn't realize that knowing that copyright violation is a crime makes my a guru. Hell, I must be a freaking Linux genius. I mean, I not only know about it, but I can use it too! Oooo... I think I'll add that to my business card:
Eric Wright, Ph.D. Software Engineering Consultant Copyright Guru
Sorry my response took so long. SlashDot is being awfully slow today.
Jon, do you just not get it? This has nothing to do about the freedom to pursue cultural identity, or any other such crap. It's about breaking the law. Granted, you may not like the law. I don't like the law. I do know that if I break the law, there may be 'consequences and repercussions' to those actions. Deal with it.
You don't like current laws? Work to change them. This isn't working to change them. This is much more like preaching to the choir.
You don't like current music distribution mechanisms? Work on changing that, too. I will warn you that encouraging people to steal from artists isn't the best way to convince those artists to part with the fat cats of the recording industry. They may only get 50 cents per disc, but when someone downloads music via Napster, Gnutella, etc. the artist gets squat.
And another thing: How is monitoring someone's network use invasion of privacy? I didn't realize there was any such thing as personal privacy when one is in public. Believe me, the internet/WWW is most certainly public. It's not like they sent the feds into someone's house and took a small boy at gunpoint... oh, wait. That's another thread! Anyway, when you have a central server like Napster, you have to assume that any traffic across it is open to scanning.
Now get off your high horse, quit whining about persecution of criminals and do something useful with your time (like buying off a few sympathetic Congressmen:)
Let's see... I have about 80-100 CDs I like to listen to. I really don't want to haul that much music around with me when I go to work. I don't have enough space on my desk, nor would my employers really like that much music laying around. Also, when I leave home, I'm not awake enough to decide what I want to listen to, and that's not a decision I should have to make in the first place.
What do I do? Either take a few CDs at a time to work and rip them while I'm working, or download them. Since I own the discs, downloading them should fall under fair use.
I'm not deluding myself about the people who use Napster. I accept (I don't know since I've never used it) that most people use it expressly for the purposes of pirating music. However, in this country you are innocent until proven guilty. The 'burden of proof' should fall to the prosecution. Logistically, it can fairly easily be proven that you have done something. It is nearly impossible to prove you *haven't* done something. Until those lawyers can prove that you don't own the CD, you are innocent, and should not be affected by their demands.
As for jail, I was responding to the original poster who proposed sending them all to jail, since they clearly broke the law... hah!
How do you know they broke the law? Did you go check to make sure they didn't own a copy of the album that they were dl'ing clips of? IMO, if you own the album, you should be allowed to dl/rip the tracks. Of course, Napster has no way of determining ownership status of a track.
My.MP3.com tries to do this, but it can easily be spoofed (Hey buddy, let me borrow a copy of 'foo' for a minute or two...). Of course, they lost in court when they tried to enforce a verification procedure.
Of course, I agree with the sentiment that people who break the law should pay, but I seriously doubt that there is a precedent where someone was sent to jail for copyright infringement. I mean, come on!!! Let's reserve jails for those who are a menace to society at large (killers, rapists, etc.) Besides, do you really want ~$35k of tax money to go to supporting each person who is jailed for such (relatively) minor offense? I don't.
I would think that only would apply to people who are currently in prison.
Not at all. I know that convicted felons no longer have the right to vote or to own firearms. Since the right to own firearms is in the second amendment, it's obvious that felons do have a restricted set of rights, extending even to constitutional rights.
However, whether that extends to the first amendment rights to free speech is unknown to me.
Gosh, a whole two months. Nothing like the four year old bugs in M$ products. We have the source, we use the source, we fix the source, we don't charge $80 for a lame service pack full of new "features".
Well then, as you are scanning the front page of/. when you see the words Jon Katz, just shut your brain down and move on to the next article. I know you can shut your brain down, you just proved it with your post!
Or is a large man dressed in black leather holding your eyelids open FORCING you to read about Katz? Didn't think so. Move along, folks, nothing to see here.
Of course there's more than one way to spell it... Why not Practical Extraction And Reporting Language? Cause Larry didn't want it that way, and it's his project. 8-P
100 THz is 10^14 per second... the period is then 10^-14 sec, or.01 picoseconds (10 femtoseconds). Light can go about 3 microns in that time, which is a large number of hydrogen-atom-radii (being about 10^-4 microns).
One of the things they are doing is running two nearly-parallel lines together to see the minimum allowed spacing between holes before the two lines are indistinguishable. I bet they can get closer than 1000 atomic radii at which point I wouldn't worry too much about it.
I think the question is 'How are such rotational frequencies measured?', not 'how do they get such frequencies in the first place'.
After reading the article, I'm not sure if they actually measured such frequencies, or just presented theoretical calculations (it's mostly a basic quantum mechanics problem involving hemispherical potential wells... hydrogen's energy spectrum is WELL known).
Umm... Moore's Law states that the amount of data storage that a microchip can hold doubles once every 18 months. (Thanks WhatIs!)
Normally that refers to speed increases when you are talking about similar technology (ie. increasing the number of transistors on a chip) but this is a totally new concept. Removing individual hydrogen atoms from a monatomic surface layer to create a rotating potential well is far different from laying metallic transistors on silicon.
Flaming the/. authors aside, from what I can tell, the Apex will play DVDs and CDs of mp3s, but not traditional CDs (CDDA format). That is what the question is asking about. I for one am glad to see all the links to CD/mp3-CD players. Me want!
Read the page. It says you should have an interest in at least one of the following: Beer, Linux, or hiking. I'm sure you qualify for the first two...(definately the second). Besides, who needs hiking when there's a crowd of drunk Linux enthusiasts!
At work, I have a WinNT box on my desk and access to a RHL 6.1 box. Can someone tell me how to convert the QT file to MPG (either in Win or Linux)? I might make it available if I can convert it...
Could you actually see a horizon (any horizon)? In the city, probably not:) Oh, well, that's what you get for living in the largest metropolitan area in the country. That and a much better social/cultural scene.
Alas, NC is just a bit south of DC (but, it's called NORTH Carolina:), so no funky lights for me (not without psychedelic drugs! which, BTW, I don't do)...
Maybe it has changed (I'm using the 03/23 build that someone posted a link to last week), but my menu says ctrl-[ and ctrl-] (I'm not smoking anything right now, thank you very much!)
But no, neither of those options seem to be working...:(
Lessee... two problems. ALT-[left|right] arrow have been replaced with CTRL-[ and CTRL-]. Years of reflexive training down the tubes. Also, manage bookmarks is next to useless. I can't drop bookmarks into a folder, open or closed. They fall either above or below the folder.
But, what is the service? Connection rights? Napster lisencing fees? (No, wait, UCITA would allow someone to disable it if you didn't pay up on time, that's no good!)
OK, how do you distribute the money to the artists equitabally? If I listen to nothing but jazz and swing, I don't want heavy metal bands to make money off of me... It's a difficult way to distribute compensation.
As others have mentioned, a form of pay-per-track is probably the only way to go. That way, those artists who are more popular and have a larger market get paid more, just like now...
Of course, the IT field is really not suited for PhDs in physics who spent most of their graduate work pounding out FORTRAN code and using graphical data analysis packages. I finally found a place that valued people with higher education as highly skilled problem solvers who can learn second (or third, or fourth...) programming languages, etc.
First, the Raleigh-area Linux Expo has NOT been dropped by the TriLUG. In fact, there is a movement among some of the members to hold an Expo anyway. The goal is apparently to have a gathering more like the original Expos, basically a large LUG meeting with people from all over the area.
Secondly, the Linux Expos you have mentioned are being sponsored by Sky Events, a group that basically misappropriated the term Linux Expo. From the ZDNet article, which I missed when I submitted this story, these meetings are more like trade shows (their web site is www.linux-expo.com, not to be confused with RHs www.linuxexpo.org... or is it?) Evidently, these shows are heavily populated by marketroids and PHBs, rather than the ubergeeks that true Expos (like the one in Raleigh) attract.
Well, the first couple of Linux Expo's were merely a gathering of linux enthusiasts gathering in class rooms on NC State's campus one weekend. With the rise in popularity of Linux, and the growing interest within the computing industry, it became much more or a commercial endeavor.
Last year's expo was ~6 months in the planning, from what a TriLUG friend of mine told me, so it's not surprising that, with less than 3 months to go and nothing accomplished, Red Hat has dropped plans to hold it.
As to RH permanently dropping the expo, I kinda doubt it. The soundbytes from RHs spokesperson claim they are interested in continuing the expo in the future, but just dropped the ball this year. They must have been diverting all of their resources to the Cygnus take-over.
A method to transmit and receive electromagnetic waves which comprises generating opposing magnetic fields having a plane of maximum force running perpendicular to a longitudinal axis of the magnetic field
Consider an electromagnetic wave travelling in a particular direction, say down the positive x axis. The oscillatory magnetic and electric fields comprising these waves oscillate in mutually perpendicular planes, and perpendicular to the direction of propagation. For the sake of argument, let the electric field's plane of oscillation be the +/-y axis, and the magnetic field's plane be the +/-z axis.
The Poynting vector (roughly E x B, where x indicates the vector cross product) defines the momentum density of the EM wave. In this case, E x B is proportional to EB(y x z [= x] ). Thus, the momentum carried by the EM wave is transmitted down the longitudinal axis of the wave.
From Newton's second law, F = dp/dt. When the EM wave is incident on a surface, the wave reflects, changing the direction of travel. If the wave is normally incident on a surface, its direction goes from +x to -x, such that the direction of dp is +x, parallel to the longitudinal axis.
Note from the quoted section of the patent application that this wormhole method of communication requires a plane of maximum force perpendicular to the longitudinal axis of the magnetic field. There is no plane of maximum force, there is only a direction (vector). A vector (one dimensional object) can lie in an infinite number of planes (two dimensional objects).
Either this guy has developed a completely new universe in which his physics is drastically different from ours, or he never bothered taking a graduate level E&M course.
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As I said, by posting this here, Jon is preaching to the choir. Take the fight to those who disagree...
Also, if the internet is public, are the phone lines public? If you rent a house, does the landlord have the right to look through your shopping bags before you enter the house?
Good point, but phone conversations are between you and other parties that you contact. Web surfing is a means of accessing public information from public "electronic bulletin boards". I don't expect quite the same level of privacy in this instance.
Eric
That's like saying that, because I listen to a particular band on the radio, they get money from it. No, they only get money if I'm inspired enough by what I hear to actually go out and buy the album.
Granted, the fact that you liked what you heard led you to the decision that you should go out and get the album. Had you not had access to mp3s, do you really think you couldn't have come up with some other way to listen to the music first? Most music stores will let you listen to the album in the store before you ever shell out money for it.
Copyright Guru... that's funny. I didn't realize that knowing that copyright violation is a crime makes my a guru. Hell, I must be a freaking Linux genius. I mean, I not only know about it, but I can use it too! Oooo... I think I'll add that to my business card:
Eric Wright, Ph.D.
Software Engineering Consultant
Copyright Guru
Sorry my response took so long. SlashDot is being awfully slow today.
Eric
Jon, do you just not get it? This has nothing to do about the freedom to pursue cultural identity, or any other such crap. It's about breaking the law. Granted, you may not like the law. I don't like the law. I do know that if I break the law, there may be 'consequences and repercussions' to those actions. Deal with it.
:)
You don't like current laws? Work to change them. This isn't working to change them. This is much more like preaching to the choir.
You don't like current music distribution mechanisms? Work on changing that, too. I will warn you that encouraging people to steal from artists isn't the best way to convince those artists to part with the fat cats of the recording industry. They may only get 50 cents per disc, but when someone downloads music via Napster, Gnutella, etc. the artist gets squat.
And another thing: How is monitoring someone's network use invasion of privacy? I didn't realize there was any such thing as personal privacy when one is in public. Believe me, the internet/WWW is most certainly public. It's not like they sent the feds into someone's house and took a small boy at gunpoint... oh, wait. That's another thread! Anyway, when you have a central server like Napster, you have to assume that any traffic across it is open to scanning.
Now get off your high horse, quit whining about persecution of criminals and do something useful with your time (like buying off a few sympathetic Congressmen
Eric
Let's see... I have about 80-100 CDs I like to listen to. I really don't want to haul that much music around with me when I go to work. I don't have enough space on my desk, nor would my employers really like that much music laying around. Also, when I leave home, I'm not awake enough to decide what I want to listen to, and that's not a decision I should have to make in the first place.
What do I do? Either take a few CDs at a time to work and rip them while I'm working, or download them. Since I own the discs, downloading them should fall under fair use.
I'm not deluding myself about the people who use Napster. I accept (I don't know since I've never used it) that most people use it expressly for the purposes of pirating music. However, in this country you are innocent until proven guilty. The 'burden of proof' should fall to the prosecution. Logistically, it can fairly easily be proven that you have done something. It is nearly impossible to prove you *haven't* done something. Until those lawyers can prove that you don't own the CD, you are innocent, and should not be affected by their demands.
As for jail, I was responding to the original poster who proposed sending them all to jail, since they clearly broke the law... hah!
How do you know they broke the law? Did you go check to make sure they didn't own a copy of the album that they were dl'ing clips of? IMO, if you own the album, you should be allowed to dl/rip the tracks. Of course, Napster has no way of determining ownership status of a track.
My.MP3.com tries to do this, but it can easily be spoofed (Hey buddy, let me borrow a copy of 'foo' for a minute or two...). Of course, they lost in court when they tried to enforce a verification procedure.
Of course, I agree with the sentiment that people who break the law should pay, but I seriously doubt that there is a precedent where someone was sent to jail for copyright infringement. I mean, come on!!! Let's reserve jails for those who are a menace to society at large (killers, rapists, etc.) Besides, do you really want ~$35k of tax money to go to supporting each person who is jailed for such (relatively) minor offense? I don't.
Not at all. I know that convicted felons no longer have the right to vote or to own firearms. Since the right to own firearms is in the second amendment, it's obvious that felons do have a restricted set of rights, extending even to constitutional rights.
However, whether that extends to the first amendment rights to free speech is unknown to me.
Eric
Gosh, a whole two months. Nothing like the four year old bugs in M$ products. We have the source, we use the source, we fix the source, we don't charge $80 for a lame service pack full of new "features".
Eric
Well then, as you are scanning the front page of /. when you see the words Jon Katz, just shut your brain down and move on to the next article. I know you can shut your brain down, you just proved it with your post!
Or is a large man dressed in black leather holding your eyelids open FORCING you to read about Katz? Didn't think so. Move along, folks, nothing to see here.
Eric
Eric
100 THz is 10^14 per second... the period is then 10^-14 sec, or .01 picoseconds (10 femtoseconds). Light can go about 3 microns in that time, which is a large number of hydrogen-atom-radii (being about 10^-4 microns).
One of the things they are doing is running two nearly-parallel lines together to see the minimum allowed spacing between holes before the two lines are indistinguishable. I bet they can get closer than 1000 atomic radii at which point I wouldn't worry too much about it.
Eric
I think the question is 'How are such rotational frequencies measured?', not 'how do they get such frequencies in the first place'.
... hydrogen's energy spectrum is WELL known).
After reading the article, I'm not sure if they actually measured such frequencies, or just presented theoretical calculations (it's mostly a basic quantum mechanics problem involving hemispherical potential wells
Eric
Normally that refers to speed increases when you are talking about similar technology (ie. increasing the number of transistors on a chip) but this is a totally new concept. Removing individual hydrogen atoms from a monatomic surface layer to create a rotating potential well is far different from laying metallic transistors on silicon.
Eric
Come on guys, is that any way to talk about Hilary Rosen? You don't have to like her, but this is just a bit much! ;-}
Eric
Flaming the /. authors aside, from what I can tell, the Apex will play DVDs and CDs of mp3s, but not traditional CDs (CDDA format). That is what the question is asking about. I for one am glad to see all the links to CD/mp3-CD players. Me want!
Eric
Read the page. It says you should have an interest in at least one of the following: Beer, Linux, or hiking. I'm sure you qualify for the first two...(definately the second). Besides, who needs hiking when there's a crowd of drunk Linux enthusiasts!
Eric
Doesn't qt pro cost money? I'm not going to spend money to convert it. Now, if I already had qt pro...
Eric
At work, I have a WinNT box on my desk and access to a RHL 6.1 box. Can someone tell me how to convert the QT file to MPG (either in Win or Linux)? I might make it available if I can convert it...
Eric
Could you actually see a horizon (any horizon)? In the city, probably not :) Oh, well, that's what you get for living in the largest metropolitan area in the country. That and a much better social/cultural scene.
:), so no funky lights for me (not without psychedelic drugs! which, BTW, I don't do)...
Alas, NC is just a bit south of DC (but, it's called NORTH Carolina
Eric
Maybe it has changed (I'm using the 03/23 build that someone posted a link to last week), but my menu says ctrl-[ and ctrl-] (I'm not smoking anything right now, thank you very much!)
But no, neither of those options seem to be working...:(
Eric
Lessee... two problems. ALT-[left|right] arrow have been replaced with CTRL-[ and CTRL-]. Years of reflexive training down the tubes. Also, manage bookmarks is next to useless. I can't drop bookmarks into a folder, open or closed. They fall either above or below the folder.
But, man, it sure is fast.
Eric, making his 'first post' from N6
But, what is the service? Connection rights? Napster lisencing fees? (No, wait, UCITA would allow someone to disable it if you didn't pay up on time, that's no good!)
OK, how do you distribute the money to the artists equitabally? If I listen to nothing but jazz and swing, I don't want heavy metal bands to make money off of me... It's a difficult way to distribute compensation.
As others have mentioned, a form of pay-per-track is probably the only way to go. That way, those artists who are more popular and have a larger market get paid more, just like now...
Eric
Of course, the IT field is really not suited for PhDs in physics who spent most of their graduate work pounding out FORTRAN code and using graphical data analysis packages. I finally found a place that valued people with higher education as highly skilled problem solvers who can learn second (or third, or fourth...) programming languages, etc.
Eric
First, the Raleigh-area Linux Expo has NOT been dropped by the TriLUG. In fact, there is a movement among some of the members to hold an Expo anyway. The goal is apparently to have a gathering more like the original Expos, basically a large LUG meeting with people from all over the area.
... or is it?) Evidently, these shows are heavily populated by marketroids and PHBs, rather than the ubergeeks that true Expos (like the one in Raleigh) attract.
Secondly, the Linux Expos you have mentioned are being sponsored by Sky Events, a group that basically misappropriated the term Linux Expo. From the ZDNet article, which I missed when I submitted this story, these meetings are more like trade shows (their web site is www.linux-expo.com, not to be confused with RHs www.linuxexpo.org
Eric
Well, the first couple of Linux Expo's were merely a gathering of linux enthusiasts gathering in class rooms on NC State's campus one weekend. With the rise in popularity of Linux, and the growing interest within the computing industry, it became much more or a commercial endeavor.
Last year's expo was ~6 months in the planning, from what a TriLUG friend of mine told me, so it's not surprising that, with less than 3 months to go and nothing accomplished, Red Hat has dropped plans to hold it.
As to RH permanently dropping the expo, I kinda doubt it. The soundbytes from RHs spokesperson claim they are interested in continuing the expo in the future, but just dropped the ball this year. They must have been diverting all of their resources to the Cygnus take-over.
Eric
Consider an electromagnetic wave travelling in a particular direction, say down the positive x axis. The oscillatory magnetic and electric fields comprising these waves oscillate in mutually perpendicular planes, and perpendicular to the direction of propagation. For the sake of argument, let the electric field's plane of oscillation be the +/-y axis, and the magnetic field's plane be the +/-z axis.
The Poynting vector (roughly E x B, where x indicates the vector cross product) defines the momentum density of the EM wave. In this case, E x B is proportional to EB(y x z [= x] ). Thus, the momentum carried by the EM wave is transmitted down the longitudinal axis of the wave.
From Newton's second law, F = dp/dt. When the EM wave is incident on a surface, the wave reflects, changing the direction of travel. If the wave is normally incident on a surface, its direction goes from +x to -x, such that the direction of dp is +x, parallel to the longitudinal axis.
Note from the quoted section of the patent application that this wormhole method of communication requires a plane of maximum force perpendicular to the longitudinal axis of the magnetic field. There is no plane of maximum force, there is only a direction (vector). A vector (one dimensional object) can lie in an infinite number of planes (two dimensional objects).
Either this guy has developed a completely new universe in which his physics is drastically different from ours, or he never bothered taking a graduate level E&M course.
Eric