While I agree Insomniac isn't the best show, if you had ever seen Attell in concert you wouldn't question his right to the titel "Comedian". One of the funniest stand ups I saw this year.
For all these people that don't test before patching, what are you in a 1-2 server enviornment with 10 workstations?
Where I work we have well over 250 servers, with god only knows how many different applications running on them. Patching without testing isn't an option.
I think the posters question is valid. Do you patch immediately and risk server failures, or do you test everything in a lab (in our case that would be one hell of a lab if we could afford all those extra servers) and then roll out the patches once you were relatively sure they wouldn't cause problems?
We are stuggling with this all the time, and it's only getting worst.
There are tools to automate the rollout of the patches, but as far as I'm concerned the rollout of patches is the easy part, testing the patches against various hardware and applications is the real work. Hard sell to management when you tell them it's gonna take 4-5 weeks at the best to roll out the patch. But it only takes one major outage and that same management staff will be asking yout why didn't you test the patch. No win situation.
For those of you who say you haven't had a patch blow up a server, count your blessings. Either your lucky, or you haven't been patching servers very long.
Helix, Eazel,.Net, aren't these companies business models curiously the same? Make the money from the service not the software! Oh that's right.Net is M$oft and wants to make money from the software and the service.
Actually, I loaded Helix Gnome and Eazel's Nautilus a couple days ago, pretty nice.
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Actually, I believe the heart of the payroll system is written in Assembler, not COBOL.
If it's the system I think it is, the guy who wrote it originally is my father!
I have it compiled and working on Gentoo. Works well for beta code. I haven't run into to many problems.
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First Impressions: It's FAST and has some nice eye candy.
This may be the first Window Manager to get me to move away from WindowMaker
While I agree Insomniac isn't the best show, if you had ever seen Attell in concert you wouldn't question his right to the titel "Comedian". One of the funniest stand ups I saw this year.
For all these people that don't test before patching, what are you in a 1-2 server enviornment with 10 workstations?
Where I work we have well over 250 servers, with god only knows how many different applications running on them. Patching without testing isn't an option.
I think the posters question is valid. Do you patch immediately and risk server failures, or do you test everything in a lab (in our case that would be one hell of a lab if we could afford all those extra servers) and then roll out the patches once you were relatively sure they wouldn't cause problems?
We are stuggling with this all the time, and it's only getting worst.
There are tools to automate the rollout of the patches, but as far as I'm concerned the rollout of patches is the easy part, testing the patches against various hardware and applications is the real work. Hard sell to management when you tell them it's gonna take 4-5 weeks at the best to roll out the patch. But it only takes one major outage and that same management staff will be asking yout why didn't you test the patch. No win situation.
For those of you who say you haven't had a patch blow up a server, count your blessings. Either your lucky, or you haven't been patching servers very long.
-Moby
40 Billion, put it in a Microsoft bank account for a rainy day.
Helix, Eazel, .Net, aren't these companies business models curiously the same? Make the money from the service not the software! Oh that's right .Net is M$oft and wants to make money from the software and the service.
Actually, I loaded Helix Gnome and Eazel's Nautilus a couple days ago, pretty nice.