Someone in Norway screwed up...
As a rule the US corts are ignored by officals of other nations.
The United States is a super power and the down side of that is other nations look and say "Excuse me? You want us to hand over one of our people becouse he broke one of YOUR laws? Really? Go to hell"
I don't know what happend in Norway that made this posable however I suspect people in Norway are pritty ticked off about the idea that people in Norway can be shipped off to annother nations cort... The US of all things... over one of the USes more insain laws.
I agree with what your saying of ArsTechnica...
Subnote however it's Linux "ADVOCATE"...
A Zealot is the person advocating something your not intrested in..
(It's a dead give-away of bies when you call someone a zealot... it means both sides are extreamly bies)
Advocates are annoying creatures at times...
But you'll never hear the term "Free speach Zealot"....
This isn't security as much as it is in the same argument base...
The arguments against "Security by obscurity" apply here.. so just insert those arguments [here] and I'll move on...
It works not by prevention so much as "reduced body count" and I guess thats the best a search engen can hope for.
When someone thwarts security thats it.. your dead...
When someone tricks a search to give them top results it's just a few websites.. it CAN be overlooked.
So say... 1 person hacks AltaVista.. it's down... blah.. 100 persons hack AltaVista.. it's still down... 1 cracker vs 1,000 crackers... makes very little diffrence... it only takes one defect and one joker to ruin your day...
But with searches... a defect becomes known and you don't fix it in time... 1,000 jokers and your screwed...
1 joker however isn't a problem.... your still online and USUALLY you still give good results... just one bad result...
You get bad results by random chance and user mistakes... so big deal...
But your expecting the joker.. once he's discovered this little trick... won't make it public....
Right now this dosn't happen...
But it's a lot to risk...
Recomendation.... sence obscurity is effective... but not perfict... give away the OLD system...
Provide a liccens that basicly says "Any changes may be used by us at any time with out notice... but only we may do this... all else is open source"
Ok some people won't get this run of conspericys.. Sorry.. Lissen to geeks in space before reading.. Thanks:)
For those that don't know... this is a joke... thanks:) and for those that don't get it.. sorry...
Slashdot is an undergound plot to push Slackware on everyone and crush Debian becouse Debian dosn't support the GPL to CmdrTacos liking...
This is also becouse nobody wanted CmdrTacos own Slashdot Linux even thow his Linux is more stable than anyone elses system...
His own box NEVER segfaults...
Now... again.. this is a joke... and a total lie...
Before I finish... Yes Taco you DO look like someone who could make a Linux distro... You have a lot of computers a populare website and a cat... thats all you need to LOOK like someone who can make a Linux distro...
On the other hand... it takes a hack of a lot more than that to accually do it.... but none of that is visable... So maybe you cann't be a Linux distro maintainer.. but you could play one on TV...
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No your not the only one...
I personally LOVE Geeks In Space...
The past few times I've posted my own wacked out conspericy theries.. etc..
Not for everyone.. obveously some people won't like it...
I accually enjoy this whole "Geek friends yacking into mic being incredably goofy" sort of thing... (Is this a whole new kind of thing? Or has this been done on traditional radio before?)
Leet Radio did this for a while when some redneck called up and said "What kind of people are going to want to lissen to a bunch of geeks" instent answer "Geeks.. Internet people.. the kind of people who lissen to Internet radio... HAH" That isn't the answer Lion gave.. but it's mine..
Anyway yeah not everyone is gona like this stuff... I do... I wish Leet Radio would return... and I was pritty sad when GiS left...
It's back and I'm happy...
I still miss Lion... but CmdrTaco is a fair replacment...
Not so easy... It would only be active when the TV was on.. It would pick up the TV not you...
and worse...
It would report back when the bad guy in a drama about a conspericy or plot to overthrow the government is on... in mass...
To make matters worse... the mic would be noticed by the hackers who rip thies things open regularly (you install Linux they will want to know how it works).
I'm sure there are ways to overcome most of the problems but that only adds more hardware and makes it easyer to find...
In the other hand.. such a system could be done and add less than $2 to the cost of the box.. eat it rather than mark it up so the consummer never notices.
It's still that hacker problem.. it'll get noticed. "Ohh isn't that a 1970s sound sample chip.. vintage hardware... it obveously dosn't do anything..." "Ohh a omnidirectional surface mount microphone.. gee I could use this on one of my projects".
Worse yet "Now that I'm logged into the Tivo.. let's see whats running.... ps.... hmmmm Whats this?" 30 min later... "Ohhh so THATS what they look for" post Slashdot artical... record MP3s... send e-mail to people you don't like using forged headers...
There is a rule.. once the computer is in someone elses hands.. they have your data...
In whos hands is the Tivo.... hmmm?
TV ads compeate with internet banner ads in many ways.
For the content provider it's easyer to get ads (vea an ad agency like Dubble Click or ad server like AdFu.. or both. like Slashdot... prod prod...)
(Really people Dubble Click is redundent.. You make more money with AdFu directly..)
With TV someone can get ads pulled from your TV show if they don't like it... With banners there are usually far to many advertisers to pull and with banners there will allways be someone to fill the void...
TV ads are majorly expensive so only a few are willing to pay the price tag banners are cheap and just about everyone can afford them.
TV ads per person are the same if not less expensive than Banners but with TV it's all or none with Banners you can chouse to have 500 to 50,000 people.
Now here is the part where advertisers really pay attention...
People usually walk away during commertals...
People usually ignore banner ads...
The advertiser pays for every person who walks away.. for every person who turns the TV off.. for every person who accually never watched the show.. It's all statistical polling and it's got bugs.
Banners advertisers pay for.. clicks... thats all.. nothing else... (Ok I pay for ad views but I'm cheap and those are less expensive.. but then I pay when my banner gets ignored so I'm not getting such a great deal.. I don't pay however when you use adbusters.. you never see it.. it never gets loaded.. I never pay... I like adbusters... it says "This guy would have never clicked")
What dose Tivo mean for advertisers...
You can get up and get your food anytime.. zap the show... come back later and zip through the commertals... oh now we know you didn't see those...
It also means an accurate count.. it means we know when you are accually watching.. if you accually watched.. what ads you zip past... what ads you watched..
Advterisers like this... they no longer pay for people who never accually watched the show..
for people who zip passed the ads (as they do with VCRs) or when they turn on or off the TV...
On the other hand it's dubble click for TV...
Don't like it? Don't buy a Tivo.. use adbusters... and save me money...
BTW my ad isn't on Dubble click... I accually think it was a really bad deal but it was a cheap bad deal so blah...
Next time I'll do click through ads with someone like Slashdot or Flycast...
Or maybe I'll do something on the Tivo....
Emacs is a hack no it's a bunch of hacks..... I think it was allways ment to be overkill...
It's fun for people who allways wanted a 9000 series computer (Like Hal 9000) for wordprocessing and spell checking.... (Ahem... When are those 9000 series computer coming out hmmm? I want my SpellCheck-9000 NOW!!!)
>I've heard horrifying tales of people using advanced multi-user operating systems for playing nethack.
I got this really nice powerful computer so I could have my room lit up in it's glowing red light...
I had to disable the operating system however.. it wouldn't open the pod bay door...
But that billions I spend on it was worth it... to have my room lit up in... wait a second...
who unplugged my computer?
What? Who replaced my billion $$ computer with a red light bulb?
The billions lost number come from pritty much the same people who say Microsoft is good.
I'm willing to discount the billions lost becouse of the source.. For you to do the same would mean dumpping tons of AntiLinux nonsence..
Note: Nobody is byond FUD.. those that clame FUD immunity are those most likely to FUD...
One must watch ones self or one will become a source of propaganda...
Years before the e-mail virus was ever made posable.. long before IloveU.. or Malisa.. we had "Good Times" the hoax...
There was a long debate about this... could it ever happen... 'No' e-mail is text it is not executable..
But if it ever contained macros or scripting it could happen yes yes?
Yeah but no body is stupid enough to do that.. If anything this hoax reminds us of the kind of damage an e-mail virus could cause and how one could happen.
Even if it wasn't automatic.. that it required you to click on something before it ran.. and announced itself with red flags... we know better...
So no one is that stupid.......
years later.... someone was that stupid....
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity..
(And don't excuse them for being stupid)
Ok give them a break with Maliasa... a small one... they got slopy careless and dumb...
Remove the feature....
Right?
Yes it might have happend on Linux had it not happend on Windows first...
Then it would go away... lesson learnned... feature removed... problem solved...
But it wasn't Linux.. Microsoft didn't learn.. they didn't remove the feature.. they made it worse...
It's not a macro anymore.. it's not really a virus BTW just a worm...
Look back a few years... Someone wrote an Internet worm that exployted a bug that let the worm transport itself to a new computer...
It worked so well it nearly took out the Internet...
Unix... how long before it was repaired?
years? Decades? no... weeks.. days...
With Linux occasionally thies problems get fixed in hours.. thow thats the best posable time it's been known to take longer...
It happend on Windows first becouse Microsoft made it posable first...
I think thats really less importent than the fact that Microsoft never did anything to fix it.
The feature remains... the bug is still there...
Anyone else would have removed the defective feature... Linux, Sun, Apple, IBM, Atari, Sega, Sony.. etc etc etc...
With Linux ANYONE can remove the defective feature...
And in record many such features have been pulled long before they were ever implemented becouse someone noticed a potental problem.
It's not so specal that a bug happends... it matters that Microsoft has desided you don't care if your computer is infected with 'IloveU'
Both are valid posabilitys. Assume nothing...
Amazon may go on the assumption that your buying on-line is a luxury and so your not watching the price very carefully when you shop.
So they cultivate a buying habbit by offering low prices. Once the habbit is established they assume you'll stop doing research at a point and just go with Amazon.
The other direction is they may see you buy a lot of a certen item and charg less to get you to buy more from them than anyone else. The more you buy the better the discount.
The problem... Amazon no speak...
and things look pritty damming for Amazon at this point...
Ohh ofcourse.... It's a feature...
They scan for than Microsoft IE flag and say "Ohh Windows... they'll pay more"
Go in with Linux... MASIVE discounts...
Uses IE/Windows... Will pay top price for infereor quality.. dosn't do research..
Uses Linux/Knoquer... Will not pay a for anything unless price is dirt cheap...
AT&T 3B2/Lynx... Won't even buy new computer if old one still works... Y2K bugs ignored...
Apple//gs or Commodore 64... Forget it... If on show "Survivers" User would build entertainment center (including Play Station 2) out of trees...
Timelord Os... Sell antques... user is time travler.. everything is antques anyway...
Accually this one was around for a while still it was a bad idea.
Yes parents wanted it.. but not everyone is a parent.
The horror storys that spawn this are like the one where a lady basicly buys a record becouse a soung is named "Micky" and finds this isn't a record about Disney carricters... She could have saved herself a lot of truble by looking at the front cover.
Putting a lable on the front cover dosn't help much for people who don't even look.
It also dosn't help when parents let kids run wild. This is why Kmart is carding. Posably conserned about liabilitys.
At any rate in all thies "protections" we still don't do much of anything about the neglectful parents who don't take care of there kids to start with.
I'm not saying we should scoop up kids who aren't supervised. But I'm saying we shouldn't make provisions for them eather.
It's the parents job to handle this. Not socitys.
On the other hand.. if it is socitys job... then socity should be taking those kids away and giving them homes where they will be supervised. Becouse thies policys and laws do nothing. The kids still wonder around and do what they shouldn't. Just becouse they can't get to the video games they like don't assume they can't do other things far less savory than fragging Stroge...
As for Kmart and Wallmart... they are probably just protecting themselfs from liability. Really can not blame them for that...
If the parent belives the kid is responsable enough to behave with out supervision them horray.
If not then the parent needs to make provisions.. and I don't mean provisions in law...
Those aren't cat ears my friend... those are horns...
Ok this AC brought up a good point...
You can run KDE apps in WindowMaker and Gnome...
But not on my system.... It takes a "specal magic" I don't have... I don't know how.. and I don't care...
Some distros come with this magic preinstalled.. many do not....
I prefer to go without... I like a streammline system.. not a cutting edge...
About being familure with the latest software...
Konquer is not part of KFM anymore...
About spelling.. read the usenet Alt.Flame FAQ on "Spelling Flames"...
For most of the Internet english is a second language.. not a primary one... and yeah I suck at it...
Yeah he is a troll.. for the most part this is just stuff that needed to be said.. should have been said in the original post anyway.. I just didn't bother...
Non proffs do have employees and proffs do have volinteers..
Basicly a volunteer is someone who basicly just says "I'll help". You are allowed to reject anyones help and they are allowed to say whatever they feel about it.
An employee is someone who is basicly someone who offers the service of his labor in trade for payment.
The legal distictions are few... they are mostly morally and socally defined.
The basic idea is you can't hire or fire a volinteer. The need for a paycheck binds an employee to your service but a volinteer has no such limitations.
A volinteer may walk away when ever he becomes disintrested. An employee may not.
Managers get to play god over employees...
Do even a hint of disrespect and the volinteer says something really nasty picks up and walks away.
Legally the diffrence.. right now.. is the volinteers don't get paid...
Giving something in return.. becouse we want to... not as "terms of work" is normal...
AoL can at any time say "We aren't paying $10 to anyone anymore" becouse thies are volinteers.
MUDs are hobby... if it were making money it would be required to get a busness liccens etc as a hobby corp...
Hobbys end up getting the shaft when we start granting specal privilages to nonprofs..
Thats the really sad part too... people think... NonProff or Proff.. They ignore the tween... the hobby... with non of the benifits of a proffit or nonproffit hobbys allways get burnt..
Yes if AoL is required to pay volinteers... a nonproffit remains exemnt... a MUD who is a hobby.. must pay for "services rendered" like any other private entity...
Volinteering for a proffit entity is nothing new.
In some industrys it is the way you get in the door...
You volinteer and when they come to depend on you.. you get hired... becouse as a volinteer you can walk out anytime you like..
And if a volinteer proves himself vital.. and you don't pay him... someone else will....
This happends most usually in industrys where work is plentyful.. workers are hard to come by... but money to pay thies people is even more rare...
So it balences out... they fill the void with volinteers... as things improve they come to rely on the best workers so when money is available they become employees.
Then there is just the pure community factor...
Doing things like moderating forums is traditionally a volinteer job. AoL dosn't need moderators... they could just as easly dump the whole deal...
Not that I would mind... AoL could just dump it's own internal forums in favor of Usenet and let usenet volinteers do the work...
The volinteers themselfs should sign off saying they are NOT part of this (They need to send out letters asking if they want to be represented).
If there are a core group of volinteers who accually want this I need to ask.. what part of volinteer do you not understand?
If you want to get paid a living wage.. get a job.
The key here is people are given a $10 kickback for the work they do..
But.. like Slashdot moderators... Why? Why moderate? Why accept the position...
Prestege? No.. (Hay SlashStaff could you put a note up on the user page saying "This is a moderator" so people can have bragging rights?)
How about.... The Letter... that stuff is over with and moderators were never included...
Why then?
Well for doing something... to help Slashdot.. to be a part of the community in a very real way.
No bragging rights... just a sense of.. hay were doing something cool...
And there is that small twing of power but Taco cuts the power back a bit.. to prevent abuse..
Anyway... the whole idea is to do it becouse you WANT to... not becouse AoL pays $10... not for work... It's nice a nice thing to do...
If you want money... get a job....
First get them to use Linux
Next get them to "free as in speach"
Free as in beer is getting greedy...
Getting people to use Linux for imbeded systems helps a great deal...
Getting them to open the source is a good thing...
It's easyer to sell em on the benifits of open source when the software is just a support side to the real product... the hardware...
Then you get em to open the source so we can contribute to the support side making the product better....
Grandma test... hmmm
You know... if this works.. maybe my grandmothers first computer will be a FreePad... or maybe not.. she's a bit nervous around high tech...
For the most part it's a game...
Anyone expecting to be able to go on quests and get magic powers need a reality check.
Then.. so do people who think a Queen can beat up a knight...
Thies are games.. pure and simple...
Real war is bloody... discusting.. and horrific...
World War II was worse than normal due to a certen ruler killing off his own people...
But WWI probably fair the norm...
But I suspect the Golf War dose more preception damage than Diablo II...
Diablo II.. a game where your risk your carricters life... occasionally die... and yet you know it's fantacy...
The Golf War.. were we lob bombs from a distence (a bit off shore) and basicly anilate our enemys with out a single risk to ourselfs.
It may not have been so clean as this but thats what we get on the news...
In Quake II (I've never played Diablo) you get to face people suffering. See blood... It's a very messy busness.
During the Golf War I saw a body count and didn't care... numbers.. mattered not one bit...
I cought myself reading the manual trying to find a way to save people in Quake II... It can't be done...
There is nothing clean about the depiction of death in thies games.
It is fun becouse you risk nothing.
But you do walk away with something...
A sence that... had this been real... I could never do it...
I think.. with my experence with FPS I've become more sensitive to the horrors of war..
That is something no PBS documentry could give me.. and something news covrage never dare produce.
Next time I see a body count.. I won't be so calous...
In role playing... people get into there carricters... people become the carricter...
When that carricter dies... they feel it in a very personal way... becouse for that moment they are that carricter...
Once the carricter dies the player snaps back to reality...
It's not like real death.. not as harsh... but it's a great deal more personal.. more real.. than watching the 6pm news.
>>who will be the first sysadmin to get fired for pushing distributed clients
>Aaron Blosser. Actually he got permission but apparently not from the right people.
Ouch!!!
I can see this however...
SysAdm with stupid bosses throwing clients up so they can have money when they are eventually fired.
People allready offer banner clients.
Some make money some banners trade for services (free ISPs)
The problems with them are the timeout.. forcing you to click on a banner every once in a while.
If instead you were asked to trade cycles for bandwith..
You know who to call if they have a back door...
Same rules that keep open source develupers from sleaking back doors into software will keep closed source clients from doing anything more than using your procesing cycles...
If you discover otherwise... class action lawsute...
Then you make some sereous money...
This is good. Admitedly for closed source.. it might hurt open source a tad..
But it burns Microsoft...
Basicly why buy Netscape or Opra when you have IE for free?
Thats what keeps Netscape free... but... Netscape with a distributed client... can generate money and be free..
It could also mean we'll see more Linux software and games ported to every Unix platform including Solarus.
You are sharing processing cycles in trade for software... Linux, BSD and Solarus boxes tend to be left on and running while Windows boxes tend to be turnned off..
This is less a stability issue and more a geek factor... Macs get in the 50/50 range as they have a strong Geek, Busness and newbe attraction..
Avrage people turn things off.. lights.. TV... radio etc...
Windows users turn computers off when they are done like turnning off a TV or turnning off the lights...
*nix users tend to leave computers running as if it were vital hardware...
Any computer can run as an alarm clock.. *nix and Mac systems are however more likely than Windows to run as such...
Simply becouse of the kinds of users who run Windows...
Anyway so this translates into prefering systems that stay on all the time normally over systems that get turned off...
Why support 11,000 users who only provide 1 to 2 hours of idle cycles... vs 1,000 users who provid 24 hours of idle cycles a day... in some cases 48 hours of idle cycles a day.. (Two computers... and the occasional time bender)...
It costs money to support users... and while *nix users support themselfs you gota convence the avrage CEO of this..
So basicly paying to support 1% of the users who represnt 80% of available idle procesor time is a really good deal..
and once they realise we don't accually need support... it'll be even better...
Ok not thies... but the much older Cray 2s... back when they were new and such a setup did not yet exist.
War Games.... The computer in the book was 7 Cray 2s.. They scaled it down to one larg black box in the movie...
(I guess the tech of 7 Cray 2s wouldn't impress the non-tech movie going public... my mother thought it was some sort of joke to use one larg black box sence she recognised it as a mini-mainframe.. she not being any sort of tech felt anyone would recognise this if she could.)
Anyway... Yes someone accually thought of doing a cluster of Crays... a bit before anyone accually made such a system...
Now imagin Wopr going HAL and trying to pull a Forben project...
The galatic councile refuses to allow us to shoot certen people into space.
If we did they'd attack us with some rather nasty wepontry..
Such as CDs of vogon poetry...
Slashdot Mirror
Someone in Norway screwed up...
As a rule the US corts are ignored by officals of other nations.
The United States is a super power and the down side of that is other nations look and say "Excuse me? You want us to hand over one of our people becouse he broke one of YOUR laws? Really? Go to hell"
I don't know what happend in Norway that made this posable however I suspect people in Norway are pritty ticked off about the idea that people in Norway can be shipped off to annother nations cort... The US of all things... over one of the USes more insain laws.
I agree with what your saying of ArsTechnica...
Subnote however it's Linux "ADVOCATE"...
A Zealot is the person advocating something your not intrested in..
(It's a dead give-away of bies when you call someone a zealot... it means both sides are extreamly bies)
Advocates are annoying creatures at times...
But you'll never hear the term "Free speach Zealot"....
This isn't security as much as it is in the same argument base...
The arguments against "Security by obscurity" apply here.. so just insert those arguments [here] and I'll move on...
It works not by prevention so much as "reduced body count" and I guess thats the best a search engen can hope for.
When someone thwarts security thats it.. your dead...
When someone tricks a search to give them top results it's just a few websites.. it CAN be overlooked.
So say... 1 person hacks AltaVista.. it's down... blah.. 100 persons hack AltaVista.. it's still down... 1 cracker vs 1,000 crackers... makes very little diffrence... it only takes one defect and one joker to ruin your day...
But with searches... a defect becomes known and you don't fix it in time... 1,000 jokers and your screwed...
1 joker however isn't a problem.... your still online and USUALLY you still give good results... just one bad result...
You get bad results by random chance and user mistakes... so big deal...
But your expecting the joker.. once he's discovered this little trick... won't make it public....
Right now this dosn't happen...
But it's a lot to risk...
Recomendation.... sence obscurity is effective... but not perfict... give away the OLD system...
Provide a liccens that basicly says "Any changes may be used by us at any time with out notice... but only we may do this... all else is open source"
Ok some people won't get this run of conspericys.. Sorry.. Lissen to geeks in space before reading.. Thanks :)
:) and for those that don't get it.. sorry...
For those that don't know... this is a joke... thanks
Slashdot is an undergound plot to push Slackware on everyone and crush Debian becouse Debian dosn't support the GPL to CmdrTacos liking...
This is also becouse nobody wanted CmdrTacos own Slashdot Linux even thow his Linux is more stable than anyone elses system...
His own box NEVER segfaults...
Now... again.. this is a joke... and a total lie...
Before I finish... Yes Taco you DO look like someone who could make a Linux distro... You have a lot of computers a populare website and a cat... thats all you need to LOOK like someone who can make a Linux distro...
On the other hand... it takes a hack of a lot more than that to accually do it.... but none of that is visable... So maybe you cann't be a Linux distro maintainer.. but you could play one on TV...
No your not the only one...
I personally LOVE Geeks In Space...
The past few times I've posted my own wacked out conspericy theries.. etc..
Not for everyone.. obveously some people won't like it...
I accually enjoy this whole "Geek friends yacking into mic being incredably goofy" sort of thing... (Is this a whole new kind of thing? Or has this been done on traditional radio before?)
Leet Radio did this for a while when some redneck called up and said "What kind of people are going to want to lissen to a bunch of geeks" instent answer "Geeks.. Internet people.. the kind of people who lissen to Internet radio... HAH" That isn't the answer Lion gave.. but it's mine..
Anyway yeah not everyone is gona like this stuff... I do... I wish Leet Radio would return... and I was pritty sad when GiS left...
It's back and I'm happy...
I still miss Lion... but CmdrTaco is a fair replacment...
Not so easy... It would only be active when the TV was on.. It would pick up the TV not you...
and worse...
It would report back when the bad guy in a drama about a conspericy or plot to overthrow the government is on... in mass...
To make matters worse... the mic would be noticed by the hackers who rip thies things open regularly (you install Linux they will want to know how it works).
I'm sure there are ways to overcome most of the problems but that only adds more hardware and makes it easyer to find...
In the other hand.. such a system could be done and add less than $2 to the cost of the box.. eat it rather than mark it up so the consummer never notices.
It's still that hacker problem.. it'll get noticed. "Ohh isn't that a 1970s sound sample chip.. vintage hardware... it obveously dosn't do anything..." "Ohh a omnidirectional surface mount microphone.. gee I could use this on one of my projects".
Worse yet "Now that I'm logged into the Tivo.. let's see whats running.... ps.... hmmmm Whats this?" 30 min later... "Ohhh so THATS what they look for" post Slashdot artical... record MP3s... send e-mail to people you don't like using forged headers...
There is a rule.. once the computer is in someone elses hands.. they have your data...
In whos hands is the Tivo.... hmmm?
TV ads compeate with internet banner ads in many ways.
For the content provider it's easyer to get ads (vea an ad agency like Dubble Click or ad server like AdFu.. or both. like Slashdot... prod prod...)
(Really people Dubble Click is redundent.. You make more money with AdFu directly..)
With TV someone can get ads pulled from your TV show if they don't like it... With banners there are usually far to many advertisers to pull and with banners there will allways be someone to fill the void...
TV ads are majorly expensive so only a few are willing to pay the price tag banners are cheap and just about everyone can afford them.
TV ads per person are the same if not less expensive than Banners but with TV it's all or none with Banners you can chouse to have 500 to 50,000 people.
Now here is the part where advertisers really pay attention...
People usually walk away during commertals...
People usually ignore banner ads...
The advertiser pays for every person who walks away.. for every person who turns the TV off.. for every person who accually never watched the show.. It's all statistical polling and it's got bugs.
Banners advertisers pay for.. clicks... thats all.. nothing else... (Ok I pay for ad views but I'm cheap and those are less expensive.. but then I pay when my banner gets ignored so I'm not getting such a great deal.. I don't pay however when you use adbusters.. you never see it.. it never gets loaded.. I never pay... I like adbusters... it says "This guy would have never clicked")
What dose Tivo mean for advertisers...
You can get up and get your food anytime.. zap the show... come back later and zip through the commertals... oh now we know you didn't see those...
It also means an accurate count.. it means we know when you are accually watching.. if you accually watched.. what ads you zip past... what ads you watched..
Advterisers like this... they no longer pay for people who never accually watched the show..
for people who zip passed the ads (as they do with VCRs) or when they turn on or off the TV...
On the other hand it's dubble click for TV...
Don't like it? Don't buy a Tivo.. use adbusters... and save me money...
BTW my ad isn't on Dubble click... I accually think it was a really bad deal but it was a cheap bad deal so blah...
Next time I'll do click through ads with someone like Slashdot or Flycast...
Or maybe I'll do something on the Tivo....
Emacs is a hack no it's a bunch of hacks..... I think it was allways ment to be overkill...
It's fun for people who allways wanted a 9000 series computer (Like Hal 9000) for wordprocessing and spell checking.... (Ahem... When are those 9000 series computer coming out hmmm? I want my SpellCheck-9000 NOW!!!)
VI for minimalists...
etc.....
Oh wait... 2001... dam.. I have a year to wait...
>I've heard horrifying tales of people using advanced multi-user operating systems for playing nethack.
I got this really nice powerful computer so I could have my room lit up in it's glowing red light...
I had to disable the operating system however.. it wouldn't open the pod bay door...
But that billions I spend on it was worth it... to have my room lit up in... wait a second...
who unplugged my computer?
What? Who replaced my billion $$ computer with a red light bulb?
The billions lost number come from pritty much the same people who say Microsoft is good.
I'm willing to discount the billions lost becouse of the source.. For you to do the same would mean dumpping tons of AntiLinux nonsence..
Note: Nobody is byond FUD.. those that clame FUD immunity are those most likely to FUD...
One must watch ones self or one will become a source of propaganda...
Years before the e-mail virus was ever made posable.. long before IloveU.. or Malisa.. we had "Good Times" the hoax...
There was a long debate about this... could it ever happen... 'No' e-mail is text it is not executable..
But if it ever contained macros or scripting it could happen yes yes?
Yeah but no body is stupid enough to do that.. If anything this hoax reminds us of the kind of damage an e-mail virus could cause and how one could happen.
Even if it wasn't automatic.. that it required you to click on something before it ran.. and announced itself with red flags... we know better...
So no one is that stupid.......
years later.... someone was that stupid....
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity..
(And don't excuse them for being stupid)
Ok give them a break with Maliasa... a small one... they got slopy careless and dumb...
Remove the feature....
Right?
Yes it might have happend on Linux had it not happend on Windows first...
Then it would go away... lesson learnned... feature removed... problem solved...
But it wasn't Linux.. Microsoft didn't learn.. they didn't remove the feature.. they made it worse...
It's not a macro anymore.. it's not really a virus BTW just a worm...
Look back a few years... Someone wrote an Internet worm that exployted a bug that let the worm transport itself to a new computer...
It worked so well it nearly took out the Internet...
Unix... how long before it was repaired?
years? Decades? no... weeks.. days...
With Linux occasionally thies problems get fixed in hours.. thow thats the best posable time it's been known to take longer...
It happend on Windows first becouse Microsoft made it posable first...
I think thats really less importent than the fact that Microsoft never did anything to fix it.
The feature remains... the bug is still there...
Anyone else would have removed the defective feature... Linux, Sun, Apple, IBM, Atari, Sega, Sony.. etc etc etc...
With Linux ANYONE can remove the defective feature...
And in record many such features have been pulled long before they were ever implemented becouse someone noticed a potental problem.
It's not so specal that a bug happends... it matters that Microsoft has desided you don't care if your computer is infected with 'IloveU'
Both are valid posabilitys. Assume nothing...
Amazon may go on the assumption that your buying on-line is a luxury and so your not watching the price very carefully when you shop.
So they cultivate a buying habbit by offering low prices. Once the habbit is established they assume you'll stop doing research at a point and just go with Amazon.
The other direction is they may see you buy a lot of a certen item and charg less to get you to buy more from them than anyone else. The more you buy the better the discount.
The problem... Amazon no speak...
and things look pritty damming for Amazon at this point...
Ohh ofcourse.... It's a feature...
//gs or Commodore 64... Forget it... If on show "Survivers" User would build entertainment center (including Play Station 2) out of trees...
They scan for than Microsoft IE flag and say "Ohh Windows... they'll pay more"
Go in with Linux... MASIVE discounts...
Uses IE/Windows... Will pay top price for infereor quality.. dosn't do research..
Uses Linux/Knoquer... Will not pay a for anything unless price is dirt cheap...
AT&T 3B2/Lynx... Won't even buy new computer if old one still works... Y2K bugs ignored...
Apple
Timelord Os... Sell antques... user is time travler.. everything is antques anyway...
Accually... I'd find it hard to GO to Kmart for my video games..
I've never done it.. probably never will..
Accually this one was around for a while still it was a bad idea.
Yes parents wanted it.. but not everyone is a parent.
The horror storys that spawn this are like the one where a lady basicly buys a record becouse a soung is named "Micky" and finds this isn't a record about Disney carricters... She could have saved herself a lot of truble by looking at the front cover.
Putting a lable on the front cover dosn't help much for people who don't even look.
It also dosn't help when parents let kids run wild. This is why Kmart is carding. Posably conserned about liabilitys.
At any rate in all thies "protections" we still don't do much of anything about the neglectful parents who don't take care of there kids to start with.
I'm not saying we should scoop up kids who aren't supervised. But I'm saying we shouldn't make provisions for them eather.
It's the parents job to handle this. Not socitys.
On the other hand.. if it is socitys job... then socity should be taking those kids away and giving them homes where they will be supervised. Becouse thies policys and laws do nothing. The kids still wonder around and do what they shouldn't. Just becouse they can't get to the video games they like don't assume they can't do other things far less savory than fragging Stroge...
As for Kmart and Wallmart... they are probably just protecting themselfs from liability. Really can not blame them for that...
If the parent belives the kid is responsable enough to behave with out supervision them horray.
If not then the parent needs to make provisions.. and I don't mean provisions in law...
Those aren't cat ears my friend... those are horns...
Ok this AC brought up a good point...
You can run KDE apps in WindowMaker and Gnome...
But not on my system.... It takes a "specal magic" I don't have... I don't know how.. and I don't care...
Some distros come with this magic preinstalled.. many do not....
I prefer to go without... I like a streammline system.. not a cutting edge...
About being familure with the latest software...
Konquer is not part of KFM anymore...
About spelling.. read the usenet Alt.Flame FAQ on "Spelling Flames"...
For most of the Internet english is a second language.. not a primary one... and yeah I suck at it...
Yeah he is a troll.. for the most part this is just stuff that needed to be said.. should have been said in the original post anyway.. I just didn't bother...
Non proffs do have employees and proffs do have volinteers..
Basicly a volunteer is someone who basicly just says "I'll help". You are allowed to reject anyones help and they are allowed to say whatever they feel about it.
An employee is someone who is basicly someone who offers the service of his labor in trade for payment.
The legal distictions are few... they are mostly morally and socally defined.
The basic idea is you can't hire or fire a volinteer. The need for a paycheck binds an employee to your service but a volinteer has no such limitations.
A volinteer may walk away when ever he becomes disintrested. An employee may not.
Managers get to play god over employees...
Do even a hint of disrespect and the volinteer says something really nasty picks up and walks away.
Legally the diffrence.. right now.. is the volinteers don't get paid...
Giving something in return.. becouse we want to... not as "terms of work" is normal...
AoL can at any time say "We aren't paying $10 to anyone anymore" becouse thies are volinteers.
MUDs are hobby... if it were making money it would be required to get a busness liccens etc as a hobby corp...
Hobbys end up getting the shaft when we start granting specal privilages to nonprofs..
Thats the really sad part too... people think... NonProff or Proff.. They ignore the tween... the hobby... with non of the benifits of a proffit or nonproffit hobbys allways get burnt..
Yes if AoL is required to pay volinteers... a nonproffit remains exemnt... a MUD who is a hobby.. must pay for "services rendered" like any other private entity...
Volinteering for a proffit entity is nothing new.
In some industrys it is the way you get in the door...
You volinteer and when they come to depend on you.. you get hired... becouse as a volinteer you can walk out anytime you like..
And if a volinteer proves himself vital.. and you don't pay him... someone else will....
This happends most usually in industrys where work is plentyful.. workers are hard to come by... but money to pay thies people is even more rare...
So it balences out... they fill the void with volinteers... as things improve they come to rely on the best workers so when money is available they become employees.
Then there is just the pure community factor...
Doing things like moderating forums is traditionally a volinteer job. AoL dosn't need moderators... they could just as easly dump the whole deal...
Not that I would mind... AoL could just dump it's own internal forums in favor of Usenet and let usenet volinteers do the work...
The volinteers themselfs should sign off saying they are NOT part of this (They need to send out letters asking if they want to be represented).
If there are a core group of volinteers who accually want this I need to ask.. what part of volinteer do you not understand?
If you want to get paid a living wage.. get a job.
The key here is people are given a $10 kickback for the work they do..
But.. like Slashdot moderators... Why? Why moderate? Why accept the position...
Prestege? No.. (Hay SlashStaff could you put a note up on the user page saying "This is a moderator" so people can have bragging rights?)
How about.... The Letter... that stuff is over with and moderators were never included...
Why then?
Well for doing something... to help Slashdot.. to be a part of the community in a very real way.
No bragging rights... just a sense of.. hay were doing something cool...
And there is that small twing of power but Taco cuts the power back a bit.. to prevent abuse..
Anyway... the whole idea is to do it becouse you WANT to... not becouse AoL pays $10... not for work... It's nice a nice thing to do...
If you want money... get a job....
First get them to use Linux
Next get them to "free as in speach"
Free as in beer is getting greedy...
Getting people to use Linux for imbeded systems helps a great deal...
Getting them to open the source is a good thing...
It's easyer to sell em on the benifits of open source when the software is just a support side to the real product... the hardware...
Then you get em to open the source so we can contribute to the support side making the product better....
Grandma test... hmmm
You know... if this works.. maybe my grandmothers first computer will be a FreePad... or maybe not.. she's a bit nervous around high tech...
For the most part it's a game...
Anyone expecting to be able to go on quests and get magic powers need a reality check.
Then.. so do people who think a Queen can beat up a knight...
Thies are games.. pure and simple...
Real war is bloody... discusting.. and horrific...
World War II was worse than normal due to a certen ruler killing off his own people...
But WWI probably fair the norm...
But I suspect the Golf War dose more preception damage than Diablo II...
Diablo II.. a game where your risk your carricters life... occasionally die... and yet you know it's fantacy...
The Golf War.. were we lob bombs from a distence (a bit off shore) and basicly anilate our enemys with out a single risk to ourselfs.
It may not have been so clean as this but thats what we get on the news...
In Quake II (I've never played Diablo) you get to face people suffering. See blood... It's a very messy busness.
During the Golf War I saw a body count and didn't care... numbers.. mattered not one bit...
I cought myself reading the manual trying to find a way to save people in Quake II... It can't be done...
There is nothing clean about the depiction of death in thies games.
It is fun becouse you risk nothing.
But you do walk away with something...
A sence that... had this been real... I could never do it...
I think.. with my experence with FPS I've become more sensitive to the horrors of war..
That is something no PBS documentry could give me.. and something news covrage never dare produce.
Next time I see a body count.. I won't be so calous...
In role playing... people get into there carricters... people become the carricter...
When that carricter dies... they feel it in a very personal way... becouse for that moment they are that carricter...
Once the carricter dies the player snaps back to reality...
It's not like real death.. not as harsh... but it's a great deal more personal.. more real.. than watching the 6pm news.
>>who will be the first sysadmin to get fired for pushing distributed clients
>Aaron Blosser. Actually he got permission but apparently not from the right people.
Ouch!!!
I can see this however...
SysAdm with stupid bosses throwing clients up so they can have money when they are eventually fired.
Beats the hell out of stealing office suppys...
People allready offer banner clients.
Some make money some banners trade for services (free ISPs)
The problems with them are the timeout.. forcing you to click on a banner every once in a while.
If instead you were asked to trade cycles for bandwith..
You know who to call if they have a back door...
Same rules that keep open source develupers from sleaking back doors into software will keep closed source clients from doing anything more than using your procesing cycles...
If you discover otherwise... class action lawsute...
Then you make some sereous money...
This is good. Admitedly for closed source.. it might hurt open source a tad..
But it burns Microsoft...
Basicly why buy Netscape or Opra when you have IE for free?
Thats what keeps Netscape free... but... Netscape with a distributed client... can generate money and be free..
It could also mean we'll see more Linux software and games ported to every Unix platform including Solarus.
You are sharing processing cycles in trade for software... Linux, BSD and Solarus boxes tend to be left on and running while Windows boxes tend to be turnned off..
This is less a stability issue and more a geek factor... Macs get in the 50/50 range as they have a strong Geek, Busness and newbe attraction..
Avrage people turn things off.. lights.. TV... radio etc...
Windows users turn computers off when they are done like turnning off a TV or turnning off the lights...
*nix users tend to leave computers running as if it were vital hardware...
Any computer can run as an alarm clock.. *nix and Mac systems are however more likely than Windows to run as such...
Simply becouse of the kinds of users who run Windows...
Anyway so this translates into prefering systems that stay on all the time normally over systems that get turned off...
Why support 11,000 users who only provide 1 to 2 hours of idle cycles... vs 1,000 users who provid 24 hours of idle cycles a day... in some cases 48 hours of idle cycles a day.. (Two computers... and the occasional time bender)...
It costs money to support users... and while *nix users support themselfs you gota convence the avrage CEO of this..
So basicly paying to support 1% of the users who represnt 80% of available idle procesor time is a really good deal..
and once they realise we don't accually need support... it'll be even better...
Ok not thies... but the much older Cray 2s... back when they were new and such a setup did not yet exist.
War Games.... The computer in the book was 7 Cray 2s.. They scaled it down to one larg black box in the movie...
(I guess the tech of 7 Cray 2s wouldn't impress the non-tech movie going public... my mother thought it was some sort of joke to use one larg black box sence she recognised it as a mini-mainframe.. she not being any sort of tech felt anyone would recognise this if she could.)
Anyway... Yes someone accually thought of doing a cluster of Crays... a bit before anyone accually made such a system...
Now imagin Wopr going HAL and trying to pull a Forben project...
> Its name is Mario, after Mario Lemieux of the Pittsburgh Penguins,
Irony I'm sure...
I suspect Tux didn't exist yet when Mario was named...
Still one must suspect if Tux is a sports fan this would be his fav team...
The galatic councile refuses to allow us to shoot certen people into space.
If we did they'd attack us with some rather nasty wepontry..
Such as CDs of vogon poetry...