> This case has absolutely nothing to do with quality, and everything to do with locking competitors out.
I disagree strongly...
None of us would care one iota about a Microsoft monopoly if Windows were a quality product. Why bother if Windows dose a decent job.
The reason we care is Windows dosn't do a decent job. The normal solution is to not use the product. THAT is where the monopoly issue comes in.
We put up with similer monopolys all the time... how about the car monopoly? Wouldn't you rather drive down the road in a hover craft?
HTML.. why HTML? Why not create something else? Why even websites? Why not telnet?
or better yet... Why the Internet? Why not Fidonet?
We allready settled on some standards. Diversity is fading becouse it's time to settle on some basic standards.
Would we be happy with the Internet if the protocal scrabled and shut down connections on a regulare basis? Would we be happy with a TCP/IP that included a virus back door? Or an Internet that hotwired you into products from one source...
> There is a MASSIVE force of Unix and Linux haters in the technical/scientific community,
There is a larg group of hackers who hate the Internet... Then... they got quiet... they are still around but considerably less pronounced...
Unix Haters have been around for a very long time and have faded with time...
They aren't even unique... Each system has a group that hates it. Some of the arguments are very convoluted. But they don't care.
From what I've seen the AntiAmiga cround is larger than the AntiUnix cround...
A lot of *nix people get a bit mono-minded about Unix.
However the notion of a Unix monopoly is a bit.. odd... It's like a "Car monopoly" most vehicals on the road are gas powered 4 wheel vehicals. Bikes, moter cycles and electric cars complete for marketshare.
But anyone can make a car.... And anyone can make a Unix like operating system.
We allmost are in a *nix monopoly as it is. The alternitives to Microsoft Windows.... MacOs X, Linux, Solarus, BSD, SCO Unix, BeOS... Unix, Unix based, Unix like or just runs Unix code. This is how they survive. Become Unix and the code will come to you...
It's just easyer to stay alive when your a *nix system. Write code for Unix and compile it on half a dosen systems then port to Windows... for the most part that will give you a larg marketshare.
In a market where it's hard to get develupers to port to your tiny platform (what happend to the days when you could bribe develupers to port to your new platform?) Being a *nix is a major advantage.
One standard is obnoxous but when no single enity controlls than standard it isn't dangerous. Just annoying.
We allready put up with annoying....
Diversity is cool... I don't want a Unix PDA... I want a PDA using Geoworks or PalmOS or similer operating system...
I run Dos on an old computer at home... However I'm not counter to a *nix "monopoly"... As annoying as it may be... it's no where near the same as one monolythic company telling you "This is where you will go today"
Edgar Bronfman, Jr is basicly living a pipe dream.
People have stolen music IP compleatly ignorent of what they were doing and the music industry has basicly turnned a blind eye to it all.
He dosn't know whats happening in the real world let alone the Internet. He thinks the challange is to eliminate the tools for IP theft. Those tools exist and allways will exist. All you can do is censore the public.
He has become aware of a world where IP law is ignored what is is not aware of is that world is called EARTH not "The Web" and that world has exested for longer than I have been alive. It did not spring up overnight with Napster.
He dose not know what is happening byond his own little world. We have no idea what pressures he faces on a day to day basis be he presumes we do. We do not learn IP law in grade school. So he is shocked and amazed that people are ignorent of his tiny little world. It was his job to inform the public of IP theft he did not. Those before him failled in the same way.
Now he can see what has been happening for years becouse he dosn't have to leave his office to see it. It is delivered right to him. Sits in his face and says "Hello I am Piracy... Ignore me" He can no longer pretend it dosn't exist but he can pretend it's new...
They did not know what was happening outside there own office. In schools some teachers think fair use includes educational use. In homes people record tapes and give them to friends.
Bill Gates has many defects but here is where he did not fall down. He knew there was an ignorence of IP law and set out to corect it. I may not totally aprove of his tactics but he knew the problem and set out a solution.
The music industry ignored it's own artists. Many of whom knew this problem existed. Some set out to educate the public on there own. The could only aim at there own fans. So be it they did what they had to do to survive becouse the music industry leaders would not.
Now they set to go on the Internet but find Napster and realise this is a tool used by people who don't know better. Napster can netscast conserts and do all the wonderful things Seagrams plans to do. But they want a secure protocal. Napster learnned early on no such thing exists. You deliver a digital data stream. Incryption will only prevent IP theft by a non-target. A target can save the music instead of send it to his sound card.
Hay maybe I don't have a sound card. Where dose my music go? To a sound file.. named/dev/audio
Insert Windows sound saver driver in place of sound card.
Thats presumming a closed source client that never gets reverse engeneared. If someone modifys the clinet (and some people can modify ANYTHING) there is no hope of preventing piracy.
He wants to believe the music industry is the first to enter the Internet entertainment... He is wrong... On-line commics were here long before Edgar Bronfman, Jr ever heard of the Internet. Dilbert and Dr Fun were around for a very long time. Dilbert was delivered on usenet. They knew the real challanges of IP theft. They handled it correctly. No one on-line has the silly notion that it's ok to copy commic strips. Thats becouse commic strip artists work hard to educate. They don't treat fans like children. They don't cry for security blankets.
Scott Adams knows people photocopy Dilbert. He dosn't get snotty about it...
On-line commics have worked out pritty well. Some premote the full commic books with the same carricters by the same artist and some sell compleate books of all the on-line strips. Some sell t-shirts and coffie mugs. I own a DustPuppy Statue.
This is the lead of internet entertainment.
At some level you are just going to have to turst the fans to not break the laws. The fans after all want to emulate the artsist to some degree.
I must say... it's hard to take some artists sereously when they talk against alcaholism while on contract with Seagrams... a company known more for ale than music...
Linus Landed a pritty spiffy job based on his software.
It's akin to a time when you submitted a program for a job application. Only now your submitting the program to the world let the public (not some simple minded computer illitrate manager) determin the value of your code and let people fight over who gets to hire you.
"Hello I graduated from Hope Collage" Cool you get a job on Technical support... the tech version of janitorial.
"Hello I wrote a program people use every day. BastardMail" Cool you get a job on our programming staff. "Hello I made Slashdot" We'll run your servers pay you to run your site and we'll rank in on your banner ads. "Hello I graduated from Hope collage" Wow thats cool but we allready have someone on tech support...
"Hello I wrote xmodem..." Xmodem? "Yeah the first standard file transfer protocal.. I made it public domain" Oh wow hay could you "No no thanks anyway.. I'm retired..."
Ohh yeah... open source programmers are crying allright....
In the mean time...
I guess Guinnis is the offical beer of open source and now Seagrams is the offical alcahol of closed source...
Don't be supprised if someone dosn't nip off your idea and do it...
Hmmm Thermostat... let's see.. use a 65816 build around static ram.. no need for fancy. basic rom. Short range radio IP.
Meow Pawject 65816-Thermo-IP.. Hmmm maybe... Scematics for download... hardware for sale... Yeah:) That would be cool... well cool now becouse it's fsking how.. but in the winter it'd he hot:)
>9) Microsoft will abandon all guise of caring about consumers and reveal the Microsoft Murdering Robot Millenium Edition. You will have to buy it or Windows Millenium Edition won't work and you will have to buy a $500 license every month for life. If you don't, it will strangle you in your sleep. It will have no other functions.
Linux for Murdering Robot... While Microsofts robot controlled by bunted in Logic chips will appear unhackable.. Reverse engenearing will prove that removal and replacment of a few key chips will change the robots behavure. A full logic upgrade "Linux for Murdering Robot" will provide remote controll of the robot...
The Linux recoded robot will kill spammers.... Microsoft clames next update will do same... (Didn't they abandon all guise of caring about consumers? Dude Bill gets spammed just like everyone else.)
Eventually domain names will go by the wayside. Instead each will have "link" or "Site" names.
Gone will be the.com,.org etc as no one adhears to the hiarcy anymore. Instead it'll just be a commen link registar network with no one in command.
The exact form this will take depends on who dose it. It may be a franchise where new link name companys pay link name franchisers to "link up"... There being more than one link name franchis but they all link together so it's a commen network like the Internet itself.
The protocalls used will be more like a mix between Napster, FreeNet and RealNetworks than todays world wide web.
Dial up connections will retain the static IP issue long after IPng becomes the standard however link names won't have any problem refering to users sites.
E-mail will probably still be sent to user@e-mail_site.com but some e-mail clients may support the link name version of the e-mail address. It's also posable that many e-mail protocals exist. Classic Internet, Sony Standard, Nokia standard, Microsoft standard (Undocumented), AoL standard, Open Standard, Open Standard 2, GNU offical standard, SVL project standard and The portable e-mail conversion gateway standard.
The World Wide Web will likely go aside and be replaced with something else.
After Rob Malda retires (Many years from now.. when he desides he wants more time for his grandkids when they graduate from collage) Slashdot will enter it's corprate phase (Belive it or not Slashdot is still operated like Robs hobby.. thats what made it great.. No one wants to fitz with success). Micro managers will try to replicate Rob but you can't and they'll over react to the trolls slowly bringing a much needed death to the tech site unless someone in charg realises you can not replicate Rob instead you make Slashdot yours. At that point Slashdot will be a data node not a website.
Data nodes will have adverisements attached and a way to varify you accually saw the advertisment. Some will attempt contract requirments.. Abuse of this will eventually lead to the termination of "Shrink wrap" liccensing of data nodes. Others will mingle the advertisement and the data node so blocking, not loading or not viewing the ad will make the data node useless.
Many more will be cool about it and leave a "no ad" option and markup the ad so the clienet may ignore the ad.
More and more advertisments will imbed themselfs in our data. (This post brought to you by Slashdot)
Spam will eventually be replaced with virus ads.. "Malisa secure consultents.. this could have been a distructive virus.. Come to us and we'll sheald your system against this and all viruses..."
As the general population become more tech savy they will use a more diverse range of operating systems.
PC hiarcy will go the way of the dino... new open hardware standards will replace the PC. Closed systems will also be designed but history shows standard hardware wins the marketshare.
Some consummers will complain about being forced to pay for a second disk just so they can have source code. This will represent a minnority. Many companys will solve this by simply providing a data node when the source can be downloaded. This a side effect of open source becomming the defacto standard thus making it hard on any closed source develupers.. However many will continue to do closed source and they will survive.. just "back shelfed" (the practace of not premoting software by stores due to lack of source code and fear of being connected with obsolete busness practaces)
A bulk load of data nodes will be e-commerce.. Ebay, E-McDonalds, E-Food, eToy, E-eek. Etc.
Delivery services will exist so your e-shopping will be delivered quickly to your home (for a nominal fee) brick and morter stores will exist as discount shops... (Log into McDonalds order Extra Value Meal 5 Hyper size it pay with bank dept incripted key)
I suspect phone lines will be used so your computer can dial your bank directly to get a one time "dept code" for your on-line shopping directly from the bank in real time using a "secure" line.
WebCam fedish will continue where some people have there whole homes wired by webcam. At some point a crook will be cought on webcam with about 20 to 50 people as eye witnesses. At that point webcams will explode. There will be no turnning back. Eventually some market droid will have the brlient idea of using webcams to gather market statistics.
In short corprate and personal intrests will compeate but the Internet will be basicly ballanced for many years to come. It will however look nothing like this...
I know for a fact they lost sales from me. Titles I'd have bought I won't be buying ever. Music I'd like to hear I won't be getting CDs for. Music I like I won't be buying....
And I don't use Napster... I'm just not willing to fund any organisation that activly seeks to keep technology out of my hands.
I want a digital recorder... Not to steal music.. but for personal use... I want mp3 format audio.. not for stealing music but for personal use.. I like the idea of Napster... not for music but for talk radio... But the music industry has Napster painted as a music piracy tool... Premotes it as such.. So I'm not going to find what I want...
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Free as in beer.. No Free as in non-proffit... Sun dosn't make any money but your paying for shipping. Thats not free...
I get kinda sick of that.. it's Hacker... Not (I can spell words on my calculator)... Running Linux isn't elite... Making Windows stable is elite:)
Making a 65816 run Quake is elite...
Running Linux is mundain... I'm not elite.. I'm mundain:)
I think people are quick to question any test that favor someone who can fund the results... The reason is it's not unusual to fund results... If a research lab dosn't produce the results you want.. burn the results.. don't do busness with the lab...
If published results favor a group that can not fund the results... Then there isn't so much to worry about...
People are quick to jump becouse so often the tests are bogus... But.. this time.... I fear... the tests.. are valid.... Or maybe... There are so good reasons for Windows to produce better results in games... No no biggy deal...
Better drivers: Windows drivers made by the people who built the card Linux drivers are guesses at how the card works...
As such the same 3D cards only work half as well as they should on Linux becouse the card makers won't document and won't make drivers.. The results are pritty scarrry...
Server Vs Destop: Linux is still a server.. Windows isn't.. Windows let's the game take over.. Linux dose not... Desk top applications don't have the same luxury... This allows games to set the bloat asside... Linux however has Daemons etc other prioritys.. Those prioritys don't stop for a game... if The user tells them to stop then they will... This means YOU can kick the bloat to the side.. for games.. apps or anything... or keep in in place... so it's only bloated if you make it that way.
Bad testing: Users on Slashdot are reporting diffrent results than the testers... It's posable the tests themselfs were tainted.. this isn't unusual... "Mindcraft" comes to mind
When this happends on Q3 I Ctrl alt - and then a Ctrl Alt + The video (wigged out) Linux is ok... the drivers just never reset the card....
I think this isn't purely a Linux issue... My card is 3DFX Voodoo 3 for the PCI... But mine is a normal PCI slot not an extended meta slot... and the Linux driver may be assuming full slot and operating accordingly...
Anyway the video can be fixed... just drop the resolution down and then back up.. it resets the card and unscrambles the screen...
Linux isn't a gammer platform.. Not news to me... [This is "News for nerds, Stuff that matters" it's just not news to me..]
Windows has much of what games need. Plus it has the support from 3D card makers.
Windows is an afterthought.. and much of it's problems stem from that... However for the PC graphics is an after thought... 3D graphics even more so... and it's worse on Linux....
Windows knows how to handle all of this... It's a driver patch system. So patching it for a new technology isn't a problem...
Linux is more of a hacker system. Upgrade, modify, hack, improve, anything.. and it's based on Unix... Now mind you Unix dose not mean Command line... there are GUI Unix systems... NeXT and Explorer come to mine (Exporer NuBus later Mac NuBus... and now NeXT is MacOsX) But Linux isn't one of those systems.. With Linux graphics is very much an after thought...
and Unlike Dos.. Linux dosn't get out of the way...
So whats the point of this artical? To scare away Gammers from using Linux? Hard core gammers arn't likely to use Linux to start with... No games.. no support and it's not well suted to the job. Why the demand for games to be ported to Linux then? Simple.. more and more games are multiplayer. That means game servers... Linux might not make a good game client... but Windows absolutly stinks as a game server... You want a Linux admin to run a game server when the client is Windows only? Let me laff in your face...
Linux admin do buy the best hardware etc etc etc just like Windows game fanatics. They'll buy the best games becouse they get bord. They may not play as fanaticly as Windows gammers. But then if they don't play... they won't run the servers.. if they don't... who will....
Thats why game develupers should make games for Linux. Not becouse Linux is a better game platform. But becouse it's a better game server...
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For a big company name I'd have recomended SCO not Microsoft. HP is also good but my personal bise prevents me from recomending them for software solutions.
I hate saying "I hate to tell you this but" when I really enjoy telling someone something.
So I won't lie.. I'm happy to tell you....
This may not be the right solution. The problem isn't the consultents. They know there stuff otherwise you wouldn't be paying them. They come with years of experence and bieses.
Expect a consultent who isn't friendly with Linux to dig up a solution that will not work on Linux. Yes Solarus can do a lot of great things Linux can not. In the end Linux has one great advantage and thats price. Source code and quick security patch relases is a bonus.
This rule holds for an NT shop.... And don't put a consultent past finding a feature Solarus dosn't have. Your talking with some of the greater frelance tallent in some cases and if a defect is to be found they can find it. Once found that defect becomes a case for switching to something the consultent likes.
So once you pick a platform for your shop pick a consultent who is buddy with your choice. If then he recomends something else it will be after bleeding dry all posablitys.
This may not be the only way to do it...
and... it may be the worst way to get it done... Linux has it's limits don't get me wrong but you can allways find more than one solution. Linux may support 4 out of 8 solutions.. if your only presented 1... there may be a reason...
If Microsoft starts compeating on quality making the source available to all etc like RedHat then I don't see a problem.
IBM once was the badguy building non-standard hardware locking users into IBMs product line. Now IBM is selling mainframes that run Unix like systems such as Linux. They "get it"
If Microsoft "gets it" that would be a good thing. If Microsoft starts selling Linux systems and puts all there marketting, legal and money behind Linux that would be a good thing.
If Microsoft just attempts an e&e on Linux we'd just get ticked off.. or a bait and switch or any games. Microsoft allready knows we don't trust them but they might believe they could pull it off. If they try they'd be toast... So as scarry as an MsLinux looks it could be a good thing... IF Microsoft plays fair...
I'm the computer fanatic. I had to get rid of an appartment full of obsolete computers becouse the manager didn't like the living room piled up with it.
My sister isn't a computer fanatic at all. She dosn't even have a computer at current time. Well she dose now. She asked for one Commodore 64 with disk drive, Pacman cartrage and a game based on the Rocky Horror Picture show. She has it now. It's all abandonware.. and thats all she wanted.
She dosn't want Quake or doom. She dosn't want a P5. She dosn't want anything current. What she wants is the old games. The stuff she played as kid and had me stash away.
It's in her closet now... She knows she must protect it becouse if anything happends she'll never see it again. She won't pay $5 for anything current but would pay for the old stuff... Thankfully her older brother is a computer fanatic and keepped everything in storage for her.
Unused IP should be protected for about 5 years after first installment of the patent. If applyed within that 5 years then the IP should remain valid for 5 years after applyed or full legth (whatever is shorter).
After 5 years the IP may be applyed to anyone but dose not enter public domain automaticly. If the IP holder applys the IP and publishes this fact in a publicly accessable forum (on an offical governemnt website or on the companys own website) then the unatherised IP user has 6 months to terminate use. If an IP is in use for 5 years by an unatherised user and during those 5 years an athersied user dose not reclame ownership though application of same IP then the IP reverts to public domain.
The idea here is that dorment IP is captive IP. An IP that is not applyed by a third party might not be applyed at all and as such the ownership should not be reguarded as "in captivity" but in a "bad time" as in lacking marketshare.
The downside is that an idle IP user may risk losing his effort to the IP holder. This means idle IP use is likely to remain within the hobby community as hobbys don't lose proffit margens in terminating projects. However hobby projects may devise new and novle uses for an idle IP. Clearly a company dose not own a hobbys matereals to spite the IP use (this should be drafted into the law for redundency clarification) so the IP owner would have to buy off thee hobbys matereals. A hobby being in the position of not needding to generate cash flow remains in the bargenning position when a company wishes to relcame it's IP.
IP published as public domain by it's owner remains in public domain. This may be allready true however it should be stated clearly and made retroactive.
This is my preposal for future law... Take it... modify it.... improve it... then take the results and contact your representives...
If such a law existed companys wouldn't be so quick to abandon IP... Fair use usage of IP should be void from the 5 year use rull. This encurages corprations to cease the reduction of fair use sense fair use during idle dose not decay the IP.
> I know that I, and most/.'ers would *love* a Linux PDA, but let's think if it's really necessary.
For a good high quality PDA? No... I'd much prefer an operating system better suted to a PDA. Linux is a high end operating system.. With the power of todays desktops and servers Linux works nicely but PDAs are tiny devices and to be reasonable in price they shouldn't use an operating system as demanding as Linux.
Palm Os and Geoworks come to mind when I think of PDAs. Linux for my desktop and server... But for PDAs and computer imbeded in toaster... I'd like something simpler and more conformming to the job....
Is it really nessisary? Yes.... But hopefully Linux and Windows PDAs will give way to Palm and/or Geoworks
There really isn't any point in insulting people like that. if you have something REAL to say.. say it... If not.... POST ON MeowBBS I need the fsking traffic:) hehe sorry
He's prasing hardware... And Still Linux dreamming...
I like Linux for my desktop but I'm not to fond of the idea of Linux (Or Windows) for a PDA OS.
I'd like to see a PDA running Geos.. like the old Zoomers... Such a device could be built rather cheaply. Geoworks dosn't need anywhere near as much ram as Linux or Windows CE and dosn't even need the system resorces. Geoworks pulls off multitasking on simple single task hardware... Simple low end processor like a 16C816 or a Z280... Sadly Geoworks 3.0 is locked into the Intel line... Thats going away from the platform indupendence that 2.0 was aimming for... So a port may be out of the question... But thats the kind of operating system I'd like to see on a PDA... Not WinCE and not Linux....
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> This case has absolutely nothing to do with quality, and everything to do with locking competitors out.
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I disagree strongly...
None of us would care one iota about a Microsoft monopoly if Windows were a quality product.
Why bother if Windows dose a decent job.
The reason we care is Windows dosn't do a decent job.
The normal solution is to not use the product. THAT is where the monopoly issue comes in.
We put up with similer monopolys all the time...
how about the car monopoly? Wouldn't you rather drive down the road in a hover craft?
HTML.. why HTML? Why not create something else?
Why even websites? Why not telnet?
or better yet... Why the Internet? Why not Fidonet?
We allready settled on some standards. Diversity is fading becouse it's time to settle on some basic standards.
Would we be happy with the Internet if the protocal scrabled and shut down connections on a regulare basis?
Would we be happy with a TCP/IP that included a virus back door?
Or an Internet that hotwired you into products from one source...
> There is a MASSIVE force of Unix and Linux haters in the technical/scientific community,
There is a larg group of hackers who hate the Internet...
Then... they got quiet...
they are still around but considerably less pronounced...
Unix Haters have been around for a very long time and have faded with time...
They aren't even unique... Each system has a group that hates it. Some of the arguments are very convoluted. But they don't care.
From what I've seen the AntiAmiga cround is larger than the AntiUnix cround...
And the Amiga is unquestionably cool....
> I guarantee you people wouldn't be screaming 'Monopoly!' nearly as loudly if Red Hat or SuSe were taking Microsoft's place in the defendant's chair.
I'm not fond of anyone getting into my head.
However... I will tell you as a mater of fact I wouldn't scream "Monopoly" if Microsoft Windows was a decent product......
A lot of *nix people get a bit mono-minded about Unix.
However the notion of a Unix monopoly is a bit.. odd...
It's like a "Car monopoly" most vehicals on the road are gas powered 4 wheel vehicals. Bikes, moter cycles and electric cars complete for marketshare.
But anyone can make a car....
And anyone can make a Unix like operating system.
We allmost are in a *nix monopoly as it is.
The alternitives to Microsoft Windows....
MacOs X, Linux, Solarus, BSD, SCO Unix, BeOS...
Unix, Unix based, Unix like or just runs Unix code.
This is how they survive. Become Unix and the code will come to you...
It's just easyer to stay alive when your a *nix system.
Write code for Unix and compile it on half a dosen systems then port to Windows... for the most part that will give you a larg marketshare.
In a market where it's hard to get develupers to port to your tiny platform (what happend to the days when you could bribe develupers to port to your new platform?) Being a *nix is a major advantage.
One standard is obnoxous but when no single enity controlls than standard it isn't dangerous. Just annoying.
We allready put up with annoying....
Diversity is cool...
I don't want a Unix PDA... I want a PDA using Geoworks or PalmOS or similer operating system...
I run Dos on an old computer at home...
However I'm not counter to a *nix "monopoly"... As annoying as it may be... it's no where near the same as one monolythic company telling you "This is where you will go today"
Edgar Bronfman, Jr is basicly living a pipe dream.
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People have stolen music IP compleatly ignorent of what they were doing and the music industry has basicly turnned a blind eye to it all.
He dosn't know whats happening in the real world let alone the Internet.
He thinks the challange is to eliminate the tools for IP theft. Those tools exist and allways will exist. All you can do is censore the public.
He has become aware of a world where IP law is ignored what is is not aware of is that world is called EARTH not "The Web" and that world has exested for longer than I have been alive. It did not spring up overnight with Napster.
He dose not know what is happening byond his own little world. We have no idea what pressures he faces on a day to day basis be he presumes we do. We do not learn IP law in grade school.
So he is shocked and amazed that people are ignorent of his tiny little world.
It was his job to inform the public of IP theft he did not. Those before him failled in the same way.
Now he can see what has been happening for years becouse he dosn't have to leave his office to see it. It is delivered right to him. Sits in his face and says "Hello I am Piracy... Ignore me"
He can no longer pretend it dosn't exist but he can pretend it's new...
They did not know what was happening outside there own office. In schools some teachers think fair use includes educational use. In homes people record tapes and give them to friends.
Bill Gates has many defects but here is where he did not fall down. He knew there was an ignorence of IP law and set out to corect it.
I may not totally aprove of his tactics but he knew the problem and set out a solution.
The music industry ignored it's own artists. Many of whom knew this problem existed. Some set out to educate the public on there own. The could only aim at there own fans. So be it they did what they had to do to survive becouse the music industry leaders would not.
Now they set to go on the Internet but find Napster and realise this is a tool used by people who don't know better.
Napster can netscast conserts and do all the wonderful things Seagrams plans to do.
But they want a secure protocal. Napster learnned early on no such thing exists.
You deliver a digital data stream. Incryption will only prevent IP theft by a non-target. A target can save the music instead of send it to his sound card.
Hay maybe I don't have a sound card. Where dose my music go? To a sound file.. named
Insert Windows sound saver driver in place of sound card.
Thats presumming a closed source client that never gets reverse engeneared.
If someone modifys the clinet (and some people can modify ANYTHING) there is no hope of preventing piracy.
He wants to believe the music industry is the first to enter the Internet entertainment...
He is wrong...
On-line commics were here long before Edgar Bronfman, Jr ever heard of the Internet.
Dilbert and Dr Fun were around for a very long time.
Dilbert was delivered on usenet.
They knew the real challanges of IP theft.
They handled it correctly.
No one on-line has the silly notion that it's ok to copy commic strips.
Thats becouse commic strip artists work hard to educate. They don't treat fans like children.
They don't cry for security blankets.
Scott Adams knows people photocopy Dilbert. He dosn't get snotty about it...
On-line commics have worked out pritty well.
Some premote the full commic books with the same carricters by the same artist and some sell compleate books of all the on-line strips. Some sell t-shirts and coffie mugs. I own a DustPuppy Statue.
This is the lead of internet entertainment.
At some level you are just going to have to turst the fans to not break the laws.
The fans after all want to emulate the artsist to some degree.
I must say... it's hard to take some artists sereously when they talk against alcaholism while on contract with Seagrams... a company known more for ale than music...
Posably the same pipehead that markked you "Insightful"
The original post wasn't redundent.. it was inslightful. You however are redundent..
People will post when ever they see a mod action they disagree with. In some cases when no such mod action exists.
The moderator who did the "redundent" should take a Karma hit... the mod who markked you up shouldn't operate heavy equipment...
Linus Landed a pritty spiffy job based on his software.
It's akin to a time when you submitted a program for a job application.
Only now your submitting the program to the world let the public (not some simple minded computer illitrate manager) determin the value of your code and let people fight over who gets to hire you.
"Hello I graduated from Hope Collage" Cool you get a job on Technical support... the tech version of janitorial.
"Hello I wrote a program people use every day. BastardMail" Cool you get a job on our programming staff.
"Hello I made Slashdot" We'll run your servers pay you to run your site and we'll rank in on your banner ads.
"Hello I graduated from Hope collage" Wow thats cool but we allready have someone on tech support...
"Hello I wrote xmodem..." Xmodem? "Yeah the first standard file transfer protocal.. I made it public domain" Oh wow hay could you "No no thanks anyway.. I'm retired..."
Ohh yeah... open source programmers are crying allright....
In the mean time...
I guess Guinnis is the offical beer of open source and now Seagrams is the offical alcahol of closed source...
Slavery as in Ale...
Don't be supprised if someone dosn't nip off your idea and do it...
:) That would be cool... well cool now becouse it's fsking how.. but in the winter it'd he hot :)
Hmmm Thermostat... let's see..
use a 65816 build around static ram.. no need for fancy. basic rom. Short range radio IP.
Meow Pawject 65816-Thermo-IP.. Hmmm maybe...
Scematics for download... hardware for sale...
Yeah
>9) Microsoft will abandon all guise of caring about consumers and reveal the Microsoft Murdering Robot Millenium Edition. You will have to buy it or Windows Millenium Edition won't work and you will have to buy a $500 license every month for life. If you don't, it will strangle you in your sleep. It will have no other functions.
:)
Linux for Murdering Robot...
While Microsofts robot controlled by bunted in Logic chips will appear unhackable.. Reverse engenearing will prove that removal and replacment of a few key chips will change the robots behavure.
A full logic upgrade "Linux for Murdering Robot" will provide remote controll of the robot...
The Linux recoded robot will kill spammers.... Microsoft clames next update will do same...
(Didn't they abandon all guise of caring about consumers? Dude Bill gets spammed just like everyone else.)
And I want Linux installed in my toaster
Or was it a rollover bug... Rollover at 1951...
Setting the vision at a much earlyer date...
Eventually domain names will go by the wayside.
.com, .org etc as no one adhears to the hiarcy anymore.
Instead each will have "link" or "Site" names.
Gone will be the
Instead it'll just be a commen link registar network with no one in command.
The exact form this will take depends on who dose it. It may be a franchise where new link name companys pay link name franchisers to "link up"... There being more than one link name franchis but they all link together so it's a commen network like the Internet itself.
The protocalls used will be more like a mix between Napster, FreeNet and RealNetworks than todays world wide web.
Dial up connections will retain the static IP issue long after IPng becomes the standard however link names won't have any problem refering to users sites.
E-mail will probably still be sent to user@e-mail_site.com but some e-mail clients may support the link name version of the e-mail address.
It's also posable that many e-mail protocals exist. Classic Internet, Sony Standard, Nokia standard, Microsoft standard (Undocumented), AoL standard, Open Standard, Open Standard 2, GNU offical standard, SVL project standard and The portable e-mail conversion gateway standard.
The World Wide Web will likely go aside and be replaced with something else.
After Rob Malda retires (Many years from now.. when he desides he wants more time for his grandkids when they graduate from collage) Slashdot will enter it's corprate phase (Belive it or not Slashdot is still operated like Robs hobby.. thats what made it great.. No one wants to fitz with success). Micro managers will try to replicate Rob but you can't and they'll over react to the trolls slowly bringing a much needed death to the tech site unless someone in charg realises you can not replicate Rob instead you make Slashdot yours. At that point Slashdot will be a data node not a website.
Data nodes will have adverisements attached and a way to varify you accually saw the advertisment.
Some will attempt contract requirments.. Abuse of this will eventually lead to the termination of "Shrink wrap" liccensing of data nodes.
Others will mingle the advertisement and the data node so blocking, not loading or not viewing the ad will make the data node useless.
Many more will be cool about it and leave a "no ad" option and markup the ad so the clienet may ignore the ad.
More and more advertisments will imbed themselfs in our data. (This post brought to you by Slashdot)
Spam will eventually be replaced with virus ads.. "Malisa secure consultents.. this could have been a distructive virus.. Come to us and we'll sheald your system against this and all viruses..."
As the general population become more tech savy they will use a more diverse range of operating systems.
PC hiarcy will go the way of the dino...
new open hardware standards will replace the PC.
Closed systems will also be designed but history shows standard hardware wins the marketshare.
Some consummers will complain about being forced to pay for a second disk just so they can have source code. This will represent a minnority. Many companys will solve this by simply providing a data node when the source can be downloaded.
This a side effect of open source becomming the defacto standard thus making it hard on any closed source develupers.. However many will continue to do closed source and they will survive.. just "back shelfed" (the practace of not premoting software by stores due to lack of source code and fear of being connected with obsolete busness practaces)
A bulk load of data nodes will be e-commerce.. Ebay, E-McDonalds, E-Food, eToy, E-eek. Etc.
Delivery services will exist so your e-shopping will be delivered quickly to your home (for a nominal fee) brick and morter stores will exist as discount shops...
(Log into McDonalds order Extra Value Meal 5 Hyper size it pay with bank dept incripted key)
I suspect phone lines will be used so your computer can dial your bank directly to get a one time "dept code" for your on-line shopping directly from the bank in real time using a "secure" line.
WebCam fedish will continue where some people have there whole homes wired by webcam.
At some point a crook will be cought on webcam with about 20 to 50 people as eye witnesses. At that point webcams will explode. There will be no turnning back.
Eventually some market droid will have the brlient idea of using webcams to gather market statistics.
In short corprate and personal intrests will compeate but the Internet will be basicly ballanced for many years to come.
It will however look nothing like this...
Something like your First-Post-ALizer allready exists for Linux... and Slashdot allready has a patch for it...
No rapid fire posting from a single IP...
Stopped long before you even started... how sad...
In the mean time people keep bitch slapping Slashdot for the moderation system it has with out ever once saying what would be reasonable.
Slashdots moderation system is fine...
It's people who bombard Slasdot that are the problem...
I know for a fact they lost sales from me. Titles I'd have bought I won't be buying ever.
Music I'd like to hear I won't be getting CDs for.
Music I like I won't be buying....
And I don't use Napster...
I'm just not willing to fund any organisation that activly seeks to keep technology out of my hands.
I want a digital recorder... Not to steal music.. but for personal use...
I want mp3 format audio.. not for stealing music but for personal use..
I like the idea of Napster... not for music but for talk radio...
But the music industry has Napster painted as a music piracy tool... Premotes it as such..
So I'm not going to find what I want...
Free as in beer.. No
Free as in non-proffit...
Sun dosn't make any money but your paying for shipping.
Thats not free...
I get kinda sick of that.. it's Hacker... Not (I can spell words on my calculator)... :)
:)
Running Linux isn't elite...
Making Windows stable is elite
Making a 65816 run Quake is elite...
Running Linux is mundain...
I'm not elite.. I'm mundain
I think people are quick to question any test that favor someone who can fund the results...
The reason is it's not unusual to fund results...
If a research lab dosn't produce the results you want.. burn the results.. don't do busness with the lab...
If published results favor a group that can not fund the results... Then there isn't so much to worry about...
People are quick to jump becouse so often the tests are bogus...
But.. this time.... I fear... the tests.. are valid....
Or maybe...
There are so good reasons for Windows to produce better results in games...
No no biggy deal...
Why Windows is faster at games...
Better drivers: Windows drivers made by the people who built the card Linux drivers are guesses at how the card works...
As such the same 3D cards only work half as well as they should on Linux becouse the card makers won't document and won't make drivers..
The results are pritty scarrry...
Server Vs Destop: Linux is still a server.. Windows isn't..
Windows let's the game take over.. Linux dose not...
Desk top applications don't have the same luxury...
This allows games to set the bloat asside...
Linux however has Daemons etc other prioritys.. Those prioritys don't stop for a game...
if The user tells them to stop then they will...
This means YOU can kick the bloat to the side.. for games.. apps or anything... or keep in in place... so it's only bloated if you make it that way.
Bad testing: Users on Slashdot are reporting diffrent results than the testers...
It's posable the tests themselfs were tainted.. this isn't unusual...
"Mindcraft" comes to mind
When this happends on Q3 I Ctrl alt - and then a Ctrl Alt +
The video (wigged out) Linux is ok... the drivers just never reset the card....
I think this isn't purely a Linux issue... My card is 3DFX Voodoo 3 for the PCI...
But mine is a normal PCI slot not an extended meta slot... and the Linux driver may be assuming full slot and operating accordingly...
Anyway the video can be fixed... just drop the resolution down and then back up.. it resets the card and unscrambles the screen...
Linux isn't a gammer platform.. Not news to me...
[This is "News for nerds, Stuff that matters" it's just not news to me..]
Windows has much of what games need. Plus it has the support from 3D card makers.
Windows is an afterthought.. and much of it's problems stem from that...
However for the PC graphics is an after thought... 3D graphics even more so...
and it's worse on Linux....
Windows knows how to handle all of this...
It's a driver patch system. So patching it for a new technology isn't a problem...
Linux is more of a hacker system. Upgrade, modify, hack, improve, anything..
and it's based on Unix...
Now mind you Unix dose not mean Command line... there are GUI Unix systems... NeXT and Explorer come to mine (Exporer NuBus later Mac NuBus... and now NeXT is MacOsX)
But Linux isn't one of those systems.. With Linux graphics is very much an after thought...
and Unlike Dos.. Linux dosn't get out of the way...
So whats the point of this artical?
To scare away Gammers from using Linux?
Hard core gammers arn't likely to use Linux to start with... No games.. no support and it's not well suted to the job.
Why the demand for games to be ported to Linux then?
Simple.. more and more games are multiplayer. That means game servers... Linux might not make a good game client... but Windows absolutly stinks as a game server...
You want a Linux admin to run a game server when the client is Windows only? Let me laff in your face...
Linux admin do buy the best hardware etc etc etc just like Windows game fanatics.
They'll buy the best games becouse they get bord. They may not play as fanaticly as Windows gammers. But then if they don't play... they won't run the servers.. if they don't... who will....
Thats why game develupers should make games for Linux. Not becouse Linux is a better game platform. But becouse it's a better game server...
For a big company name I'd have recomended SCO not Microsoft.
HP is also good but my personal bise prevents me from recomending them for software solutions.
I hate saying "I hate to tell you this but" when I really enjoy telling someone something.
So I won't lie.. I'm happy to tell you....
This may not be the right solution.
The problem isn't the consultents. They know there stuff otherwise you wouldn't be paying them.
They come with years of experence and bieses.
Expect a consultent who isn't friendly with Linux to dig up a solution that will not work on Linux.
Yes Solarus can do a lot of great things Linux can not. In the end Linux has one great advantage and thats price. Source code and quick security patch relases is a bonus.
This rule holds for an NT shop....
And don't put a consultent past finding a feature Solarus dosn't have. Your talking with some of the greater frelance tallent in some cases and if a defect is to be found they can find it. Once found that defect becomes a case for switching to something the consultent likes.
So once you pick a platform for your shop pick a consultent who is buddy with your choice. If then he recomends something else it will be after bleeding dry all posablitys.
This may not be the only way to do it...
and... it may be the worst way to get it done...
Linux has it's limits don't get me wrong but you can allways find more than one solution. Linux may support 4 out of 8 solutions.. if your only presented 1... there may be a reason...
If Microsoft starts compeating on quality making the source available to all etc like RedHat then I don't see a problem.
IBM once was the badguy building non-standard hardware locking users into IBMs product line.
Now IBM is selling mainframes that run Unix like systems such as Linux.
They "get it"
If Microsoft "gets it" that would be a good thing.
If Microsoft starts selling Linux systems and puts all there marketting, legal and money behind Linux that would be a good thing.
If Microsoft just attempts an e&e on Linux we'd just get ticked off.. or a bait and switch or any games. Microsoft allready knows we don't trust them but they might believe they could pull it off. If they try they'd be toast...
So as scarry as an MsLinux looks it could be a good thing... IF Microsoft plays fair...
I'm the computer fanatic.
I had to get rid of an appartment full of obsolete computers becouse the manager didn't like the living room piled up with it.
My sister isn't a computer fanatic at all. She dosn't even have a computer at current time. Well she dose now. She asked for one Commodore 64 with disk drive, Pacman cartrage and a game based on the Rocky Horror Picture show. She has it now.
It's all abandonware.. and thats all she wanted.
She dosn't want Quake or doom. She dosn't want a P5. She dosn't want anything current. What she wants is the old games. The stuff she played as kid and had me stash away.
It's in her closet now...
She knows she must protect it becouse if anything happends she'll never see it again.
She won't pay $5 for anything current but would pay for the old stuff...
Thankfully her older brother is a computer fanatic and keepped everything in storage for her.
This should go for copyrights AND patents...
Unused IP should be protected for about 5 years after first installment of the patent. If applyed within that 5 years then the IP should remain valid for 5 years after applyed or full legth (whatever is shorter).
After 5 years the IP may be applyed to anyone but dose not enter public domain automaticly. If the IP holder applys the IP and publishes this fact in a publicly accessable forum (on an offical governemnt website or on the companys own website) then the unatherised IP user has 6 months to terminate use.
If an IP is in use for 5 years by an unatherised user and during those 5 years an athersied user dose not reclame ownership though application of same IP then the IP reverts to public domain.
The idea here is that dorment IP is captive IP. An IP that is not applyed by a third party might not be applyed at all and as such the ownership should not be reguarded as "in captivity" but in a "bad time" as in lacking marketshare.
The downside is that an idle IP user may risk losing his effort to the IP holder. This means idle IP use is likely to remain within the hobby community as hobbys don't lose proffit margens in terminating projects. However hobby projects may devise new and novle uses for an idle IP. Clearly a company dose not own a hobbys matereals to spite the IP use (this should be drafted into the law for redundency clarification) so the IP owner would have to buy off thee hobbys matereals. A hobby being in the position of not needding to generate cash flow remains in the bargenning position when a company wishes to relcame it's IP.
IP published as public domain by it's owner remains in public domain. This may be allready true however it should be stated clearly and made retroactive.
This is my preposal for future law...
Take it... modify it.... improve it... then take the results and contact your representives...
If such a law existed companys wouldn't be so quick to abandon IP...
Fair use usage of IP should be void from the 5 year use rull. This encurages corprations to cease the reduction of fair use sense fair use during idle dose not decay the IP.
> I know that I, and most /.'ers would *love* a Linux PDA, but let's think if it's really necessary.
For a good high quality PDA? No...
I'd much prefer an operating system better suted to a PDA.
Linux is a high end operating system..
With the power of todays desktops and servers Linux works nicely but PDAs are tiny devices and to be reasonable in price they shouldn't use an operating system as demanding as Linux.
Palm Os and Geoworks come to mind when I think of PDAs.
Linux for my desktop and server...
But for PDAs and computer imbeded in toaster... I'd like something simpler and more conformming to the job....
Is it really nessisary?
Yes.... But hopefully Linux and Windows PDAs will give way to Palm and/or Geoworks
There really isn't any point in insulting people like that. :)
if you have something REAL to say.. say it...
If not.... POST ON MeowBBS I need the fsking traffic
hehe sorry
Anyway... don't do that.. it's not worth it
He's prasing hardware...
And Still Linux dreamming...
I like Linux for my desktop but I'm not to fond of the idea of Linux (Or Windows) for a PDA OS.
I'd like to see a PDA running Geos.. like the old Zoomers... Such a device could be built rather cheaply.
Geoworks dosn't need anywhere near as much ram as Linux or Windows CE and dosn't even need the system resorces.
Geoworks pulls off multitasking on simple single task hardware...
Simple low end processor like a 16C816 or a Z280...
Sadly Geoworks 3.0 is locked into the Intel line... Thats going away from the platform indupendence that 2.0 was aimming for...
So a port may be out of the question...
But thats the kind of operating system I'd like to see on a PDA...
Not WinCE and not Linux....