if you want the precious developers you should appeal to their needs
True I prefer to program under linux, but lets face the facts.
The big name developers know DirectX, and all there games are developed under windows using DirectX. Now you are asking them to cross compile and change their media layer...
What developers prefer and what the market is forcing on them are two different things. Yes, its unfair and unfortunate, but its the way the world is.
And this is why you don't see many games on the linux OS...
CS is not dead. It has not died, it is not dieing. I have no idea where you got that bit of info. Maybe it's wishful thinking on your part. I still
played after 1.0 (on hiatus now because of T2) and it was still the same basic game and still very fun.
There was a major drop of players after the 1.0 release. That, to me, means its dying. And there will always be fanatics that will stay, but most of the players left.
About Tribes... funny that very few of the people online actually use teamwork. No, T1 did well because it was nicely positioned and an
excellent break from the standard FPS games. T2 is selling out because it is a sequel.
But if you jump into a game that uses teamplay, which I find everyday, you'll either be losing poorly, or winning easily (depending on which side you start on).
The reason its hard to find, though, is because people get frustrated because they know that teamplay is the easiest way to fight teamplay (fire with fire), and getting people to work together while they are loosing is tough. I do agree with T2 selling out because its a sequel, but it is a sequel to a very popular game, and it was good as the hype behind it.
Actually the gameplay of Diablo is one of the best things about it. Their interface is decent and intuitive. It's much less dull than many
games because you often have to judge when to use this power or that power, and often do so creatively. Two characters of the same class
could have completely different styles.
See, now when I think of a good interface, I think of Sacrifice. It was very fast to learn and simple to use even though its based on a very complex system. A bad one would be B&W (since you are familiar with it), which is a touch ackward (but I am still enjoying the game). True, the style of play is different from character to character, but the goal is the same (hack'n'slash). Go play Deus Ex, where you can have the same "class" but different skills, and every obsticale you find can be overcome a variety of ways, including the skillset you prefer.
Dreamcast died and it was an excellent machine.
Indrema was a brand new company trying to break into the industry. Its only major advantage over the competition was the linux OS. And (this isn't a flame, but I'm sure it'll be taken as one) having a linux OS doesn't make the console more desirable than the others. Its the developers, the games, and the popularity. The console world is a lot different than the PC world.
I feel that game
developers are trying to focus more on graphics, sound, and other multimedia features, rather than the overall playability of the game
Yes, several do. But there still exists developers that enjoy plot and gameplay more than graphics and sound. Like the almighty Warren Spector. Go play Deus Ex if you haven't yet. He's working on another game. Lets, also, not forget Richard Gariott, and Sid Meier who are both working on new games. Hopefully people will learn from these gurus...
So you agree that the word "good" is an opinionated word?
I gave my opinion, which, funny enough, doesn't agree with yours.
But to put more into this post:
I was putting the game up against many categories, and against many games. D2 is a hack-n-slash, without much strategy, no fancy graphics, and a decent online community. I could name at least a dozen games that do better in all categories. That is how I made my decision that this isn't a good game.
I like all types and genres of games. But if you wanted an RPG, I'd suggest something fun like Balder's Gate, and if you wanted a hack'n'slash, I'd suggest UT (at least it has more than one mode of play when you get bored of hack'n'slash).
I'm just going to post to the parent to support it.
I agree with the idea behind what you are saying. But graphics aren't what makes this game dull. Heck, I still play systemshock2 religiously (if you haven't played it yet, go grab youself a copy! Its only like $9.99, and it is more than worth it!). The reason the game is dull is because its just go around and kill stuff. Yeah... collect armor and gain levels... but is this really that interesting? Where's the strategy? There is very little.
Lets look at counterstrike. It was extremely popular, because it required more than just 13373 FR4GG1NG SK1LLZ. It required thought and strategy. Then, just before version 1.0, they decided to make it more like a quake game and make it easier to frag and required less thought. What happened? It died... quickly.
Lets look at Tribes (and the new Tribes2). Sold out instantly. Why? Because this game *requires* teamwork and strategy. Time and time again, I could round up a band of 6 guys that weren't good at fragging, but knew how to work together, and annilate a team of 8 deulers (excellent one-on-one'ers) that wouldn't work together.
D2, also, makes the person that takes too much time (plays all day for about 6 months), and makes him a god that can't be beat. This is a cheap way to keep players. It makes you want to play more and more so that you are unbeatable. Then when a newbie comes along they are crushed.
I think games should reward the person with the best strategy. That way you learn strategies the more you play, and they better you will be.
Would you rather play a game where you have to spend months of 24-7 playing to be the best, or days of thinking to be better, and always have a challenge? If you answered the former, then you'll be in for a great wakeup when you have to work all day.
Just cause it sold a bunch doesn't mean anything. Q3 sold a bunch, and in my opinion, is quite a boring game. More and more people want something besides just hack and slash... something with substance. I'm repeating myself now, so just look at my response from a reply to the same parent.
Hack and slash vs. plot and strategy. And, yes, D2 has strategy, but nothing more than Q3. Sorry folks, but fragcounts and levels aren't the future, and are getting boring quickly.
Redhat is in the same boat as VA Linux as far as lawsuits. I'm going out on a limb and guessing that you believe that nothing has gone wrong. Why do you believe that these company's are attacking you and VA? What do you honestly believe the outcome for both will be?
I've found the term "The Next Best Thing" to be used only when reminiscing. The internet was "The Next Best Thing" when it was made, but I make this statement almost 30 years after it was created. When it was created (arpanet), I'm sure no one expected it to be much...
To call something TNBT, is to show off your psychic abilities (which is why things fail when people say something is TNBT before its out). Its only something you notice when its past.
Whoops... meant to link to the space.com article on the hubble seeing the supernova (the background on all the links for this story). You're right, that's an entirely different article (also a fun read, might I add). My bad.
Observations made by the Hubble telescope have produced evidence that the
universe is full of "dark energy", stuff that has mass but does not emit nor block light,
Your dark energy explaination is actually the definition of "Dark Matter". Dark energy is the repulsive force in space that accelerates the already spreading galaxies.
Another theory that supports this "Dark Energy" is the theory of a second sun Nemesis
Since when is this news? I'm assuming that the "new" in "news" means that this would be a new idea. Umm... I've known about extreme programming for at least a year. Is the next post going to be "Nanotechnology. The theory of using nanomachines to do work!"
Remember the last time a civilian was put behind the wheel of an expensive government vehicle?
The nuclear sub that killed the Asian boat when it emerged underneith it... Keep that in mind...
Exactly...
NASA didn't let him go into the training, so he never had the training, and they think he shouldn't go up without it. And now, of course, they are demanding he take the training (because he doesn't have enough time to train before the launch).
Clever, eh?;-)
...the dungeon keeper series shows a colorful mix of 3rd person god-view, with 1st person action-view (with the 'posses spell').
As far as sound being important in a game, try System Shock 2. The sound in that game still scares the ba-jesus outta me. Especially the maiden mothers.... Along with use of cameras in video games, you may add the resident evil series. People would get frustrated about how the views are static, but the designer purposely did this for effect. And how homeworld has a complex 3-D dynamic camera, but it is simple to use and understand and makes the game more interesting (try viewing a battle from multiple angles... very cool).
Hope this helps for the video game section:-)
Big brother? I'm more worried about Icarus and Daedalus.... and how all are info gets routed through Area51, and how everything we do is monitored by something greater than our governments.... its all because of The Illuminati!!!
Sorry... had a five hour session of "Deus Ex" last night...
The Naked News has had interuption advertising for about a year now, and they just instituted a "pay for non-advertising" subscription. I guess this means it is unsuccessful on the net as of today...
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if you want the precious developers you should appeal to their needs
True I prefer to program under linux, but lets face the facts.
The big name developers know DirectX, and all there games are developed under windows using DirectX. Now you are asking them to cross compile and change their media layer...
What developers prefer and what the market is forcing on them are two different things. Yes, its unfair and unfortunate, but its the way the world is.
And this is why you don't see many games on the linux OS...
CS is not dead. It has not died, it is not dieing. I have no idea where you got that bit of info. Maybe it's wishful thinking on your part. I still played after 1.0 (on hiatus now because of T2) and it was still the same basic game and still very fun.
There was a major drop of players after the 1.0 release. That, to me, means its dying. And there will always be fanatics that will stay, but most of the players left.
About Tribes... funny that very few of the people online actually use teamwork. No, T1 did well because it was nicely positioned and an excellent break from the standard FPS games. T2 is selling out because it is a sequel.
But if you jump into a game that uses teamplay, which I find everyday, you'll either be losing poorly, or winning easily (depending on which side you start on).
The reason its hard to find, though, is because people get frustrated because they know that teamplay is the easiest way to fight teamplay (fire with fire), and getting people to work together while they are loosing is tough. I do agree with T2 selling out because its a sequel, but it is a sequel to a very popular game, and it was good as the hype behind it.
Actually the gameplay of Diablo is one of the best things about it. Their interface is decent and intuitive. It's much less dull than many games because you often have to judge when to use this power or that power, and often do so creatively. Two characters of the same class could have completely different styles.
See, now when I think of a good interface, I think of Sacrifice. It was very fast to learn and simple to use even though its based on a very complex system. A bad one would be B&W (since you are familiar with it), which is a touch ackward (but I am still enjoying the game).
True, the style of play is different from character to character, but the goal is the same (hack'n'slash). Go play Deus Ex, where you can have the same "class" but different skills, and every obsticale you find can be overcome a variety of ways, including the skillset you prefer.
Dreamcast died and it was an excellent machine.
Indrema was a brand new company trying to break into the industry. Its only major advantage over the competition was the linux OS. And (this isn't a flame, but I'm sure it'll be taken as one) having a linux OS doesn't make the console more desirable than the others. Its the developers, the games, and the popularity. The console world is a lot different than the PC world.
I feel that game developers are trying to focus more on graphics, sound, and other multimedia features, rather than the overall playability of the game
Yes, several do. But there still exists developers that enjoy plot and gameplay more than graphics and sound. Like the almighty Warren Spector. Go play Deus Ex if you haven't yet. He's working on another game. Lets, also, not forget Richard Gariott, and Sid Meier who are both working on new games. Hopefully people will learn from these gurus...
So you agree that the word "good" is an opinionated word?
I gave my opinion, which, funny enough, doesn't agree with yours.
But to put more into this post:
I was putting the game up against many categories, and against many games. D2 is a hack-n-slash, without much strategy, no fancy graphics, and a decent online community. I could name at least a dozen games that do better in all categories. That is how I made my decision that this isn't a good game.
I like all types and genres of games. But if you wanted an RPG, I'd suggest something fun like Balder's Gate, and if you wanted a hack'n'slash, I'd suggest UT (at least it has more than one mode of play when you get bored of hack'n'slash).
I'm just going to post to the parent to support it.
I agree with the idea behind what you are saying. But graphics aren't what makes this game dull. Heck, I still play systemshock2 religiously (if you haven't played it yet, go grab youself a copy! Its only like $9.99, and it is more than worth it!). The reason the game is dull is because its just go around and kill stuff. Yeah... collect armor and gain levels... but is this really that interesting? Where's the strategy? There is very little.
Lets look at counterstrike. It was extremely popular, because it required more than just 13373 FR4GG1NG SK1LLZ. It required thought and strategy. Then, just before version 1.0, they decided to make it more like a quake game and make it easier to frag and required less thought. What happened? It died... quickly.
Lets look at Tribes (and the new Tribes2). Sold out instantly. Why? Because this game *requires* teamwork and strategy. Time and time again, I could round up a band of 6 guys that weren't good at fragging, but knew how to work together, and annilate a team of 8 deulers (excellent one-on-one'ers) that wouldn't work together.
D2, also, makes the person that takes too much time (plays all day for about 6 months), and makes him a god that can't be beat. This is a cheap way to keep players. It makes you want to play more and more so that you are unbeatable. Then when a newbie comes along they are crushed.
I think games should reward the person with the best strategy. That way you learn strategies the more you play, and they better you will be.
Would you rather play a game where you have to spend months of 24-7 playing to be the best, or days of thinking to be better, and always have a challenge? If you answered the former, then you'll be in for a great wakeup when you have to work all day.
Just cause it sold a bunch doesn't mean anything. Q3 sold a bunch, and in my opinion, is quite a boring game. More and more people want something besides just hack and slash... something with substance. I'm repeating myself now, so just look at my response from a reply to the same parent.
Hack and slash vs. plot and strategy. And, yes, D2 has strategy, but nothing more than Q3. Sorry folks, but fragcounts and levels aren't the future, and are getting boring quickly.
...subcultures online are booming -- auctions, women's communities, gaming, Open Source, entertainment, p2p...
I love how you go from P2P sucks to p2p being a booming subculture.... All within one day!
Redhat is in the same boat as VA Linux as far as lawsuits. I'm going out on a limb and guessing that you believe that nothing has gone wrong. Why do you believe that these company's are attacking you and VA? What do you honestly believe the outcome for both will be?
I've found the term "The Next Best Thing" to be used only when reminiscing. The internet was "The Next Best Thing" when it was made, but I make this statement almost 30 years after it was created. When it was created (arpanet), I'm sure no one expected it to be much...
To call something TNBT, is to show off your psychic abilities (which is why things fail when people say something is TNBT before its out). Its only something you notice when its past.
Here it is. That's the space.com article that started this "Dark Energy" story.
Whoops... meant to link to the space.com article on the hubble seeing the supernova (the background on all the links for this story). You're right, that's an entirely different article (also a fun read, might I add). My bad.
Its still morning for me...
Observations made by the Hubble telescope have produced evidence that the universe is full of "dark energy", stuff that has mass but does not emit nor block light,
Your dark energy explaination is actually the definition of "Dark Matter". Dark energy is the repulsive force in space that accelerates the already spreading galaxies.
Another theory that supports this "Dark Energy" is the theory of a second sun Nemesis
Since when is this news? I'm assuming that the "new" in "news" means that this would be a new idea. Umm... I've known about extreme programming for at least a year. Is the next post going to be "Nanotechnology. The theory of using nanomachines to do work!"
Can we stay current, please?
Homer Simpson quotes that apply here:
That'll teach you to share!
Trying is the first step to failure. So never try, Lisa.
I hope you all remember this the next time you want to make something the public may want to buy...
No kidding. The mafia has been doing this for years! They just haven't used the internet medium yet (at least no one knows that they have yet) ;-)
Dr. Jack Ng, a physicist at University of North Carolina in Chapel Hill,
Dr. Ng?? How do you pronounce that??
Remember the last time a civilian was put behind the wheel of an expensive government vehicle?
The nuclear sub that killed the Asian boat when it emerged underneith it... Keep that in mind...
Exactly... ;-)
NASA didn't let him go into the training, so he never had the training, and they think he shouldn't go up without it. And now, of course, they are demanding he take the training (because he doesn't have enough time to train before the launch).
Clever, eh?
Actually, the reason the US is ticked off is because he wouldn't go to the training NASA demanded he go on.
I can assure you that I've counted the bullion bars inside, and I'm full. :-P
No one can steal crap from me...
Sorry, the title forced me to reply....
...the dungeon keeper series shows a colorful mix of 3rd person god-view, with 1st person action-view (with the 'posses spell'). :-)
As far as sound being important in a game, try System Shock 2. The sound in that game still scares the ba-jesus outta me. Especially the maiden mothers....
Along with use of cameras in video games, you may add the resident evil series. People would get frustrated about how the views are static, but the designer purposely did this for effect. And how homeworld has a complex 3-D dynamic camera, but it is simple to use and understand and makes the game more interesting (try viewing a battle from multiple angles... very cool).
Hope this helps for the video game section
More big brother tactics..."
Big brother? I'm more worried about Icarus and Daedalus.... and how all are info gets routed through Area51, and how everything we do is monitored by something greater than our governments.... its all because of The Illuminati!!!
Sorry... had a five hour session of "Deus Ex" last night...
The Naked News has had interuption advertising for about a year now, and they just instituted a "pay for non-advertising" subscription. I guess this means it is unsuccessful on the net as of today...