Because of the nature of one of the sites I am working on we are having 3rd party Security experts verify the security layout. Do you know why?
If we get hacked, and it is apparent we did not take "reasonable" steps to protect our data, we do not get the option of retaliation. Using MS software, IMNSHO is NOT taking "reasonable" steps to protect your data.
I'd say that was a pretty valid argument, wouldn't you?
No, I wouldn't. They were implementing a change in policy that would affect users. They fact that some other users have already left is irrelevent, they were checking their userbase to see if they minded the intrusion. Regardless of what you, or the AC (BTW, my previous reference to AC was Asheron's Call, not Anonymous Coward), or even I think about the outcome, they asked the question to those that would be affected by the change. It was the contention that this was the wrong set of people to ask, and I have to ask, if not the people affected, then who should be asked?
If you played Diablo you would know. Once there are a few cheaters, some of the legit players start leaving, after a while, the majority are cheaters, and you can't play the game as a standard player without dieing a lot. (True, PvP is an option on EQ, but what if there was a hack around that?)
Also, what if you are trying to get a rare spawn, he finally spawns and some cheater casts a single spell doing 15000 dmg, and takes the item you were waiting for? Verant has done a lot to protect against KSing, but that all that code would be useless at that point. Not to mention the cheaters will really screw up the spawn rates.
Before you go completely crazy, you better realize that some things happen just because they are using some of the internet libraries from MS. Their code is a bit brute-force at times, and checks internet-related things even if you didn't code anything in to do it.
Let me get this straight. The USERS of EverCrack, the only ones affected by the scan, are not the proper group to poll? Who should we ask? AC Users? They aren't affected, People who don't play games? They aren't affected by the ECrack scan. Hmm.... how is it irrelavent?
They were changing the future EULA, and EverCrack has been very forward about telling us of any changes to the software, including warning us about this proposed change. Quite honestly, if MS had come up with this idea, they would have just implemented it, not open it for discussion. (MS Update anyone?).
Over 80 people have been banned from EverCrack due to being caught based on logging. (too much dmg done, etc). This has kept the cheating to almost nil at this point, and will probably continue to do so. This new breed of cheaters are extracting information out of the datafiles to gather extra information that is normally impossible to get, and using that information to gain advantages over other players. These are generally people who just aren't good enough to play normally.
They have a lot of anti-cheating code (the patch program DOES monitor their own executable and data files), and I'm very glad that they have succeeded. I have been able to play for over 8 months without having a problem with cheaters, unlike Diablo, and Quake, and others.
When you logon to EverCrack you automatically get the latest version of the software, and optionally any new zones which have come out. (you just can't go there until you download it, but you can download it at your leasure during the day while you sleep, getting ready to play again that night. hehe).
Just to be fair, Verant did a poll of their users, and 85% said they had no problem with the scan. (Probably, like me they don't want Everquest to become the next Diablo, where 95% of the players are cheaters, and the game becomes unplayable).
DESPITE this, they backed down, and the CTO put a letter on the eqnews that stated that it's just not a good idea, they made a mistake and were overzealous in protecting against cheaters.
I'm just waiting for the expansion pack, and could care less.... more EverCrack, more, MORE, MORE!!!! (Asheron's... shiver).
The $300 you spend on VMware could have gotten you a mondo-big hard drive for your primary box. With LILO, you could configure it to boot many different OSes (i.e. multipe versions of Windows) from different partitions on the drive. Without needing to spend the bux on VMware.
But it takes a lot longer to cut and paste from GVIM running in Linux/X to the Win95 box, and pasting into a WinNT box, as well as drag and dropping files files between the Win9x and Samba running on the Linux box.
The great thing about VMWare is that it is very seamless. AND My win9x VMWare boxes are much more stable than any box I've seen. And reboot time of newer, bigger machines is very annoying. There is a time and place for Dual-Boot (Gaming), but in a work environment, VMWare is much more practical. Allowing me to do all my primary work under Linux, and run Office and Outlook under Windows.
Look through history, and you will see people who started with very good intentions, and once they got money, decided religion really wasn't necessary anymore. It's not impossible, but how many multi-billionares do you know that are Christians? (True Christians, not Tammy Fae Baker Christians).
This is actually the same technique Novell used. They used to have a hardware lock, which made it very difficult to pirate, they stopped doing that, and after about 5 years they suddenly cracked down on some large businesses for piracy. When every big business was afraid of the lawsuits, and were too entrenched with Novell, they registered their copies. Suddenly Novell controlled the majority of the NOS market.;^)
Sorry, he is right. It is actually a problem with the PC, which is compounded by the OS. An Interrupt gets missed, leaving the Alt key in "enabled" mode. Alt works like a Meta, not like shift. Therefore there is an interrupt for Alt-on, and one for Alt-off. If you miss the second, it thinks it is still on.
This becomes very common (Rather common) in PCs with Network cards, since they are constantly giving out Interrupts.
If the OS does not have extremely tight Interrupt handling code, it can miss interrupts that get over-queued. In a standard PC the serial gets the highest priority (Every interrupt gets a priority). The keyboard generally gets a relatively low priority, since it gives interrupts at about 100wpm top. Which, compared to a network card is almost never;^).
So far, I believe it's been "proven" about 85% accurate (New Testament). The other 15% is still under investigation, and may never be verifiable. A relatively recent discovery was the discovery of Jesus' crucifiction record, quelling the idea that Jesus never existed, and was made up completely.
Any data, user stuff would be under/home,/usr/local, and maybe/opt (Which are OF COURSE seperate filesystems). These would be primarily (/home totally) untouched by the upgrade. So loss of data would be near impossible.
-- Keith Moore
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Slackware, shear Luxury! Try SLS, and Kernel 0.94! 14 Floppies downloaded over 14.4 Modem! That was just the base system, then I forget how many floppies to get X installed, and then reading my Monitor/Video specs to figure out which timings I should put in!
Uhm, no. I've had systems install that wouldn't even boot (Not in the past few years, but now I know what to avoid). But since your father did it for years, he already knew all the caviats to avoid, I'm sure. Watching someone experienced install something doesn't prove that it's easy to install. I've seen guys make developing embedded systems look easy, but It's not quite as easy as an expert makes it out to look.
Yes! This has been a major headache with Compaq Desktops, switching the Video card and Network cards mid-stream really mess up the image installs (we use Ghost).
We can get a batch of 20 PCs (Same exact specs) and 10 will have 1 video, 10 will have another, and about 3 will have different Network cards. (They switched from TLAN to Intel recently). With my Linux images (compressed dd's) I have to rerun Xconfigurator, and change a line in/etc/conf.modules. For WinXX, I have to download the different driver... hmm, no network, grab the old Floppies. Sucks.
(Playground, fence, uhh no.) Not theory, it was tried, it resulted as I stated.
Ah yes, 15. That explains a lot. You know everything, and everything you have learned was self-taught. Oh well, talk to me in 10 years when you realize you were slightly mistaken about the fact that your parents,teachers,friends didn't set limits.
The real issue is the definition of "Open-minded". The way it is generally used is that everything should be considered "OK" in the right context, you have to consider "THEM" in deciding what is right and wrong.
Also, I find it odd that you assume I would not teach about other cultures, Actually I'm extremely for understanding other cultures, and plan on teaching of all cultures, from Babalon to Greece, to Aztecs, to Druids, to Satanists. If they don't know what is out there, they will be destroyed within minutes of hitting the "Open world", as you would have it. (You assume I keep them in a 6x6 cell until they are 18, I'm sure).
I believe open mindedness is the realization that you should never condemn a PERSON for what they believe. I do not push my beliefs on people, however I do not hide them when asked. I believe Homosexuality to be wrong, however when I find out about a friend/coleague being a homosexual, I don't start preaching to them about why it is wrong. When it comes down to it, It is THEIR choice, I can not make it for them, nor am I responsible for it, However, when it comes to my children, I am very responsible.
If you don't stand up for something, you'll fall for anything
Exactly, no black/white, right/wrong. And you are shocked when the new kids don't seem to really care all that much about other people's lives, or life in general. You want it to be both ways, but History has proven that the next generation will take the previous generation to the extreme (Either with, or against the original idea). You are seeing the result of your ideas in reality, you can not control how much to the extreme they take it. Nor can I control how much to the extreme my children will take it, but At least I have actual guidelines to define to my child, which you have to put grey borders around everything.
When you remove fences around the playground, the children will be afraid to leave the center, because they don't know what the safe limit is. This was a shock to the people who tried it (Not near roads, etc.), but to those of us who realize that limits are a GOOD thing, we could have told them the results.
Its precicely this attitude that promotes "white flight"
Okay, I am white, but it really pisses me off to think that you would assume that all the white people leaving magically creates a BAD system. Sorry, But where I work, I am the minority (Very white collar), and there are some very shared views, It's not just the white, but the type of individuals whom want to protect their children who get away from these schools. I will agree that those that are left behind are generally minorities, but there are also a pretty good percentage of minorities who leave.
So pretty much, I should put my kid out on the street and say, "Sorry, can't help you, telling you what is right, wrong, safe, dangerous would be pushing my beliefs on you".
Sorry, parents have the job of raising their children to live the way they think they should, until they are 20 (18 is the legal limit in the U.S. though). At that point, the kids have the option of saying "Uh, I don't think so". Rebellions happen, if you push TOO hard, the kid will swerve so far to the other side that Ying and Yang would look like identical twins in comparison.
"Kids, raise thyself" doesn't work.
Ah yes, the famous "Nasty things have been done in the name of religion" argument. It's such a pathetic argument (Abuse of something makes that something bad), that it really doesn't deserve the time to punch the million holes into it.
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Because of the nature of one of the sites I am working on we are having 3rd party Security experts verify the security layout. Do you know why?
If we get hacked, and it is apparent we did not take "reasonable" steps to protect our data, we do not get the option of retaliation. Using MS software, IMNSHO is NOT taking "reasonable" steps to protect your data.
-- Keith Moore
I'd say that was a pretty valid argument, wouldn't you?
No, I wouldn't. They were implementing a change in policy that would affect users. They fact that some other users have already left is irrelevent, they were checking their userbase to see if they minded the intrusion. Regardless of what you, or the AC (BTW, my previous reference to AC was Asheron's Call, not Anonymous Coward), or even I think about the outcome, they asked the question to those that would be affected by the change. It was the contention that this was the wrong set of people to ask, and I have to ask, if not the people affected, then who should be asked?
-- Keith Moore
Unless, of course someone who doesn't like you makes an anonymous call to child protective services, or the ATF. Then you're just screwed.
-- Keith Moore
If you played Diablo you would know. Once there are a few cheaters, some of the legit players start leaving, after a while, the majority are cheaters, and you can't play the game as a standard player without dieing a lot. (True, PvP is an option on EQ, but what if there was a hack around that?)
Also, what if you are trying to get a rare spawn, he finally spawns and some cheater casts a single spell doing 15000 dmg, and takes the item you were waiting for? Verant has done a lot to protect against KSing, but that all that code would be useless at that point. Not to mention the cheaters will really screw up the spawn rates.
-- Keith Moore
Before you go completely crazy, you better realize that some things happen just because they are using some of the internet libraries from MS. Their code is a bit brute-force at times, and checks internet-related things even if you didn't code anything in to do it.
-- Keith Moore
Let me get this straight. The USERS of EverCrack, the only ones affected by the scan, are not the proper group to poll? Who should we ask? AC Users? They aren't affected, People who don't play games? They aren't affected by the ECrack scan. Hmm.... how is it irrelavent?
They were changing the future EULA, and EverCrack has been very forward about telling us of any changes to the software, including warning us about this proposed change. Quite honestly, if MS had come up with this idea, they would have just implemented it, not open it for discussion. (MS Update anyone?).
-- Keith Moore
Over 80 people have been banned from EverCrack due to being caught based on logging. (too much dmg done, etc). This has kept the cheating to almost nil at this point, and will probably continue to do so. This new breed of cheaters are extracting information out of the datafiles to gather extra information that is normally impossible to get, and using that information to gain advantages over other players. These are generally people who just aren't good enough to play normally.
They have a lot of anti-cheating code (the patch program DOES monitor their own executable and data files), and I'm very glad that they have succeeded. I have been able to play for over 8 months without having a problem with cheaters, unlike Diablo, and Quake, and others.
When you logon to EverCrack you automatically get the latest version of the software, and optionally any new zones which have come out. (you just can't go there until you download it, but you can download it at your leasure during the day while you sleep, getting ready to play again that night. hehe).
-- Keith Moore
Just to be fair, Verant did a poll of their users, and 85% said they had no problem with the scan. (Probably, like me they don't want Everquest to become the next Diablo, where 95% of the players are cheaters, and the game becomes unplayable).
DESPITE this, they backed down, and the CTO put a letter on the eqnews that stated that it's just not a good idea, they made a mistake and were overzealous in protecting against cheaters.
I'm just waiting for the expansion pack, and could care less.... more EverCrack, more, MORE, MORE!!!! (Asheron's... shiver).
-- Keith Moore
The $300 you spend on VMware could have gotten you a mondo-big hard drive for your primary box. With LILO, you could configure it to boot many different OSes (i.e. multipe versions of Windows) from different partitions on the drive. Without needing to spend the bux on VMware.
But it takes a lot longer to cut and paste from GVIM running in Linux/X to the Win95 box, and pasting into a WinNT box, as well as drag and dropping files files between the Win9x and Samba running on the Linux box.
The great thing about VMWare is that it is very seamless. AND My win9x VMWare boxes are much more stable than any box I've seen. And reboot time of newer, bigger machines is very annoying. There is a time and place for Dual-Boot (Gaming), but in a work environment, VMWare is much more practical. Allowing me to do all my primary work under Linux, and run Office and Outlook under Windows.
-- Keith Moore
Look through history, and you will see people who started with very good intentions, and once they got money, decided religion really wasn't necessary anymore. It's not impossible, but how many multi-billionares do you know that are Christians? (True Christians, not Tammy Fae Baker Christians).
-- Keith Moore
Hmm, what does it mean when someone quotes "The Jerk"?
-- Keith Moore
This is actually the same technique Novell used. They used to have a hardware lock, which made it very difficult to pirate, they stopped doing that, and after about 5 years they suddenly cracked down on some large businesses for piracy. When every big business was afraid of the lawsuits, and were too entrenched with Novell, they registered their copies. Suddenly Novell controlled the majority of the NOS market.
-- Keith Moore
Huh? Have you ever applied an NT service pack ? Just click on the .exe, reboot, and that's it.
Three things:
1. If I am fixing a bug in the crond, why would I have to reboot, I just restart the service. Much more useful in "real-world" scenerio.
2. I have seen on several occasions, that after the reboot, it either doesn't boot, or there are a whole slew of new problems (SP2 anyone?).
3. If you want to keep NT secure, you have to apply the HOT-FIXES. There are just as many of those, if not more, than RPMs.
-- Keith Moore
Sorry, he is right. It is actually a problem with the PC, which is compounded by the OS. An Interrupt gets missed, leaving the Alt key in "enabled" mode. Alt works like a Meta, not like shift. Therefore there is an interrupt for Alt-on, and one for Alt-off. If you miss the second, it thinks it is still on.
This becomes very common (Rather common) in PCs with Network cards, since they are constantly giving out Interrupts.
If the OS does not have extremely tight Interrupt handling code, it can miss interrupts that get over-queued. In a standard PC the serial gets the highest priority (Every interrupt gets a priority). The keyboard generally gets a relatively low priority, since it gives interrupts at about 100wpm top. Which, compared to a network card is almost never
-- Keith Moore
So far, I believe it's been "proven" about 85% accurate (New Testament). The other 15% is still under investigation, and may never be verifiable.
A relatively recent discovery was the discovery of Jesus' crucifiction record, quelling the idea that Jesus never existed, and was made up completely.
-- Keith Moore
Or sitting in an upper-managment meaning.
-- Keith Moore
Any data, user stuff would be under /home, /usr/local, and maybe /opt (Which are OF COURSE seperate filesystems). These would be primarily (/home totally) untouched by the upgrade. So loss of data would be near impossible.
-- Keith Moore
Slackware, shear Luxury! Try SLS, and Kernel 0.94! 14 Floppies downloaded over 14.4 Modem! That was just the base system, then I forget how many floppies to get X installed, and then reading my Monitor/Video specs to figure out which timings I should put in!
-- Keith Moore
Uhm, no. I've had systems install that wouldn't even boot (Not in the past few years, but now I know what to avoid). But since your father did it for years, he already knew all the caviats to avoid, I'm sure. Watching someone experienced install something doesn't prove that it's easy to install. I've seen guys make developing embedded systems look easy, but It's not quite as easy as an expert makes it out to look.
-- Keith Moore
Yes! This has been a major headache with Compaq Desktops, switching the Video card and Network cards mid-stream really mess up the image installs (we use Ghost).
/etc/conf.modules. For WinXX, I have to download the different driver... hmm, no network, grab the old Floppies. Sucks.
We can get a batch of 20 PCs (Same exact specs) and 10 will have 1 video, 10 will have another, and about 3 will have different Network cards. (They switched from TLAN to Intel recently). With my Linux images (compressed dd's) I have to rerun Xconfigurator, and change a line in
-- Keith Moore
(Playground, fence, uhh no.)
Not theory, it was tried, it resulted as I stated.
Ah yes, 15. That explains a lot. You know everything, and everything you have learned was self-taught. Oh well, talk to me in 10 years when you realize you were slightly mistaken about the fact that your parents,teachers,friends didn't set limits.
-- Keith Moore
The real issue is the definition of "Open-minded". The way it is generally used is that everything should be considered "OK" in the right context, you have to consider "THEM" in deciding what is right and wrong.
Also, I find it odd that you assume I would not teach about other cultures, Actually I'm extremely for understanding other cultures, and plan on teaching of all cultures, from Babalon to Greece, to Aztecs, to Druids, to Satanists. If they don't know what is out there, they will be destroyed within minutes of hitting the "Open world", as you would have it. (You assume I keep them in a 6x6 cell until they are 18, I'm sure).
I believe open mindedness is the realization that you should never condemn a PERSON for what they believe. I do not push my beliefs on people, however I do not hide them when asked. I believe Homosexuality to be wrong, however when I find out about a friend/coleague being a homosexual, I don't start preaching to them about why it is wrong. When it comes down to it, It is THEIR choice, I can not make it for them, nor am I responsible for it, However, when it comes to my children, I am very responsible.
If you don't stand up for something, you'll fall for anything
-- Keith Moore
Exactly, no black/white, right/wrong. And you are shocked when the new kids don't seem to really care all that much about other people's lives, or life in general. You want it to be both ways, but History has proven that the next generation will take the previous generation to the extreme (Either with, or against the original idea). You are seeing the result of your ideas in reality, you can not control how much to the extreme they take it. Nor can I control how much to the extreme my children will take it, but At least I have actual guidelines to define to my child, which you have to put grey borders around everything.
When you remove fences around the playground, the children will be afraid to leave the center, because they don't know what the safe limit is. This was a shock to the people who tried it (Not near roads, etc.), but to those of us who realize that limits are a GOOD thing, we could have told them the results.
-- Keith Moore
Its precicely this attitude that promotes "white flight"
Okay, I am white, but it really pisses me off to think that you would assume that all the white people leaving magically creates a BAD system. Sorry, But where I work, I am the minority (Very white collar), and there are some very shared views, It's not just the white, but the type of individuals whom want to protect their children who get away from these schools. I will agree that those that are left behind are generally minorities, but there are also a pretty good percentage of minorities who leave.
Bigotry from any angle is wrong, period.
-- Keith Moore
So pretty much, I should put my kid out on the street and say, "Sorry, can't help you, telling you what is right, wrong, safe, dangerous would be pushing my beliefs on you".
Sorry, parents have the job of raising their children to live the way they think they should, until they are 20 (18 is the legal limit in the U.S. though). At that point, the kids have the option of saying "Uh, I don't think so". Rebellions happen, if you push TOO hard, the kid will swerve so far to the other side that Ying and Yang would look like identical twins in comparison.
"Kids, raise thyself" doesn't work.
Ah yes, the famous "Nasty things have been done in the name of religion" argument. It's such a pathetic argument (Abuse of something makes that something bad), that it really doesn't deserve the time to punch the million holes into it.
-- Keith Moore