You are right, there are some of us who still believe there is such a thing as right and wrong. To some people this means we are close-minded. So be it, However, when there is no right and wrong, then people start to become very open-minded to walking into a school and knocking off half their schoolmates.
We have freedom of religion in this country, which means I have the right to protect my children from the Religion of Atheism and Humanism. This country is trying to become what we originally ran here from, a tyrannical state which controls which religion is acceptable (Atheism and Humanism).
Yes, but I would not try to win a war using MY KID. I would remove them from the danger (Yes, it's dangerous to have all free-will and common sense scared out of them), and perhaps if the school systems started to notice that if they run the school like a prison, the only students left will be the ones which probably deserve to be in prison. (The true trouble-makers).
Of course, that's just my opinion, I could be wrong.(tm)
1). This is a crock. Most homeschoolers are just as socially adept as non-homeschoolers. This is a common FUD tactic.
2). Since entering the workforce, I have, on average, 1 individual around my age, everyone else varies greatly in age. So, school is a really bad socialization system, since it doesn't prepare you for reality, which is that you WILL NOT SOCIALIZE WITH PEOPLE YOUR OWN AGE MUCH!
Yes! And today there is the highest number of homeschoolers than ever before (since mandatory schooling was enacted). Mandatory schooling was a disaster from the beginning, and the school system has been declining ever since.
There are over 1 million homeschoolers now. Which of course means that there will be at least 800,000 people who still have a clue in the next century. (Hey, homeschooling doesn't guarantee cluefullness, but it's MUCH,MUCH,MUCH better odds).
The idea that people think they can FORCE kids to learn is ridiculous. If they are constant trouble makers, they should be kicked out. Schooling should not be a RIGHT, it should be a privilage. I believe that it should be free if you want it (up through high-school), but should not be mandatory.
6.0 Mandrake sucked, never got Hardware right, and even if it thought it did, didn't boot properly. However 6.1 Seems to have cured all these problems. I'm not sure why there were so many problems with 6.0. I never did find a system it would install on. Haven't had that problem with 6.1. I didn't have any of these problems with RedHat 6.0.
By opening the source, they are going to minimize the amount work they have to do (just management of releases). Therefore, this is another proof-of-concept. Use open-source to work in another area of the field, where doing it closed sourced would be to big a drain on resources.
Why aren't the rc?.d directories in/etc, like every other Unix?
HP-UX./sbin/rc?.d.
BTW, I still prefer the RedHat layaout, even though I was very used to the random layout of the other UNIX's (Sorry, each UNIX puts rc?.d in a different place, RedHat's just makes the most sense, since it segragates it from other config stuff).
The only complaint I have is that for the box to recognize the second ISA NIC, I had to compile the hex address directly into the kernel.
Uhm, why didn't you just modify/etc/conf.modules to setup the module properly to the static IRQ/IO? This is about the same as you have to do to WinXX for older hardware, tell it the IO + IRQ (Actually, you only need to tell Linux the IO, 99% of the time it will find the IRQ after the IO). Also, if it's only a router, the LRP would be an even quicker answer. http://www.linuxrouter.org/
This is very true, fortunately my parents warned me, and told me the first thing to do when I get an appartment is put all the furniture, etc. on credit, let some of the balance sit there for about 2-3 months, (pay off a portion each month), then you will have an established credit line. And then in the future, just use the credit card like a debit card. (Don't let a balance sit). It worked for me, when I went to get a mortage, I had no problems. They actually pre-approved me for twice as much as I needed for the house. This is especially impressive, since I was self-employed (I had been self employed for 3 years though).
I've never started a fight at school. I've never had any urge to walk into a public place and start shooting people. Maybe its because I'm Canadian. We seem to handle these things at least semi-intelligently, even if we do usually cave to the US
What the heck does this thing have to do with violence? It has to do with brain-development, which many studies show is slowed by the 60hz boob-tube.
Just because the article is from Katz, doesn't mean it's an extension of the "Hellmouth" series.
-- Keith Moore
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Your point validates his, since as a person who wants to affect personal behavior, he would know how to do it.
AAP is about the equivalent of the AMA (except that they don't sell out to formula companies), in that they have no legal control. They only make recommendations. So your point is quite ignorant.
-- Keith Moore
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If I had a moderator point, I would declare that flamebait, but I don't
While your point-of-reference is a bit odd, I would make a few valid points-of-reference:
I can not cut a tree down in my own yard without a permit.
I can not build a shed in my own yard without a permit
I can not rebuild my own kitchen, inside my own house (which I own), without a permit. (no outside changes)
I can not change the oil in my own car on the street. (This is only a few towns, but is spreading quickly)
I can not shoot my own 3 year old child in the head. (Just repeating your point).
My rule is that my child does not watch TV in my house (Easily enforced, WE DON'T HAVE ONE). I do not force them to "look the other way" in another house, because that would be silly, rude, and unenforcable. It would be rude, because it would be one of those "holier then thou" things, which I detest.
I agree, unenforcable rules are stupid, and will erode your authority. However, you made a leap of logic, which I disagree with.
Actually, my parents moved us out to the middle of the country. To go to a party I would have had to walk about 15 miles, which definately controlled my ability to "sneak out". I was a cross-country runner, but it was still a "bit" too long a distance.
Your quote should be changed from "parents can't force them to do anything", to "parents who are unwilling to try hard enough can't force them to do anything". Also, if you raise them well enough in the first 10 years, the teen years can actually go on without rebellion, believe it or not.
One day, when I turned off the TV and my 2 year old son went into a screaming fit, I threw the TV into the basement, that was 1.5 years ago, it's still there. After about a week of hellish behavior, my son was able to sleep better, was less hyper-active, and was much better behaved in general, and I also began getting compliments for how well behaved my son was. I now have 2 children, 3 and 1. They have advance motor skills compared to their peers, because we actually allow them to practice those skills.
TV has no redeeming characteristics. Anything that can be "learned" from TV can be taught by the parents, if they are willing to try. The American Academy of Pediatrics made a suggestion, which I have found by my own experience to be a very good one. They are not law-makers. If they were, every child under 12months would be breast-fed (Mine were), and we would probably have a much lower infant mortality rate. (Oops, I might have upset someone by letting them know they were selfish).
I believe that child raising should be up to the parent, period. If you want to raise your child to be a satan-worshiping, sword-wielding, psychopath, that is your decision. However, I might mention my disagreement with you if I know you, as you will mention your disagreement with me. However, I also believe that it is my right to raise my children as "right wing zealots". So, you raise your children your way, I'll raise mine my way, and let the AAP make their recommendations. In the end, each person will have to live their own lives, and we will be held accountable (I know, this is a unpopular view in modern society) for how we raised our children.
BTW, While I agree with your post, the BR tag is a great tag;^)
Uhm, I was raised on a farm, with very little TV, and almost no Computers. I learned a great deal about life, and when I went to college, learned a great deal about computers. I was a VERY successful programmer for 9 years, and am now a Senior UNIX Administrator. If you give kids the basics of life, computers are a trivial thing to learn. The problem is that somehow, we have decreed that computers are some mystical thing. They are calculators on steroids, not much more.
I have internet access at home, and have ditched the TV. I allow my kids quite a bit of time on the computer, which is at least somewhat interactive, TV has no redeeming qualities at all. Anything done via a TV can be done in a more interactive way on the Web, and I still control Web/Computer access, to insure they maintain active imaginations, and the ability to have common sense, which can really only be learned in RL, not in cyberspace.
Personally, once my children are old enough to be trusted with an interactive type game (Actually, it's the wackos I don't trust more then my kids), I hope that MUSH/MUD/MUCK/MAGEs are still around, since they foster imagination much more than any other type of game.
We use it here too, and it's a nice product, but it's still solving several problems with NT that shouldn't exist. We use it to recover a desktop system quickly after it gets hosed-up. Just a standard Ghost image for each department. I'm not sure what I'll do if I lose a Linux Workstation, I haven't had to come up with a solution yet.
(I was being sarcastic, I do have a plan, just haven't had to use it).
I still find it odd that some people consider the FSF/UNIX market to be "behind the times", when MS is the one playing catchup (with the exception of Bob & the paperclip, which we really just don't like).
Automatic detection of corrupted files:
rpm -Va (MD5 Checksum checks + others).
Disk image creation/restore:
dd + gzip.
Granted, Ghost does have a few other advantages (ability to restore to different sized disk). However, the basic idea is very old in the UNIX market, and is relatively new in the PC market.
I remember finding a piece of shareware that let you *gasp* make images of a floppy onto your harddrive! Hmm, dd if=/dev/fd0 of=floppy.img.
Of course, anyone bored enough could write a simple script which used rpm -Va and rpm to do the same on a RedHat system. Of course I generally prefer to avoid corrupted files, then creating more bloat to make up for crappy software.
That explains the wax in the NT computer room. Plus, I was wondering why the NT team had included a couple of roosters in the latest quote for a new NT server.
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You are right, there are some of us who still believe there is such a thing as right and wrong. To some people this means we are close-minded. So be it, However, when there is no right and wrong, then people start to become very open-minded to walking into a school and knocking off half their schoolmates.
We have freedom of religion in this country, which means I have the right to protect my children from the Religion of Atheism and Humanism. This country is trying to become what we originally ran here from, a tyrannical state which controls which religion is acceptable (Atheism and Humanism).
-- Keith Moore
Yes, but I would not try to win a war using MY KID. I would remove them from the danger (Yes, it's dangerous to have all free-will and common sense scared out of them), and perhaps if the school systems started to notice that if they run the school like a prison, the only students left will be the ones which probably deserve to be in prison. (The true trouble-makers).
Of course, that's just my opinion, I could be wrong.(tm)
-- Keith Moore
No, it is not a school. However, I think much of the push for schools to become fascist comes from parents who cry 'Protect the children!'
I think you mean, they cry 'Raise my children'
That is how we got where we are.
-- Keith Moore
Two notes:
1). This is a crock. Most homeschoolers are just as socially adept as non-homeschoolers. This is a common FUD tactic.
2). Since entering the workforce, I have, on average, 1 individual around my age, everyone else varies greatly in age. So, school is a really bad socialization system, since it doesn't prepare you for reality, which is that you WILL NOT SOCIALIZE WITH PEOPLE YOUR OWN AGE MUCH!
-- Keith Moore
Yes! And today there is the highest number of homeschoolers than ever before (since mandatory schooling was enacted). Mandatory schooling was a disaster from the beginning, and the school system has been declining ever since.
There are over 1 million homeschoolers now. Which of course means that there will be at least 800,000 people who still have a clue in the next century. (Hey, homeschooling doesn't guarantee cluefullness, but it's MUCH,MUCH,MUCH better odds).
The idea that people think they can FORCE kids to learn is ridiculous. If they are constant trouble makers, they should be kicked out. Schooling should not be a RIGHT, it should be a privilage. I believe that it should be free if you want it (up through high-school), but should not be mandatory.
-- Keith Moore
Actually, you would have to find a font/image with a reversed R.
-- Keith Moore
6.0 Mandrake sucked, never got Hardware right, and even if it thought it did, didn't boot properly. However 6.1 Seems to have cured all these problems. I'm not sure why there were so many problems with 6.0. I never did find a system it would install on. Haven't had that problem with 6.1. I didn't have any of these problems with RedHat 6.0.
-- Keith Moore
Yeah, I just ordered 6.0 from Cheapbytes... Oh well, guess I'll use up some of the twin T1's for the upgrade.
-- Keith Moore
By opening the source, they are going to minimize the amount work they have to do (just management of releases). Therefore, this is another proof-of-concept. Use open-source to work in another area of the field, where doing it closed sourced would be to big a drain on resources.
-- Keith Moore
HP-UX.
BTW, I still prefer the RedHat layaout, even though I was very used to the random layout of the other UNIX's (Sorry, each UNIX puts rc?.d in a different place, RedHat's just makes the most sense, since it segragates it from other config stuff).
-- Keith Moore
I think you meant: The #1 Reason Linux is better than BSD is that it is protected by the GPL.
-- Keith Moore
Uhm, why didn't you just modify
-- Keith Moore
This is very true, fortunately my parents warned me, and told me the first thing to do when I get an appartment is put all the furniture, etc. on credit, let some of the balance sit there for about 2-3 months, (pay off a portion each month), then you will have an established credit line. And then in the future, just use the credit card like a debit card. (Don't let a balance sit). It worked for me, when I went to get a mortage, I had no problems. They actually pre-approved me for twice as much as I needed for the house. This is especially impressive, since I was self-employed (I had been self employed for 3 years though).
-- Keith Moore
void main()? Which language are you using?
-- Keith Moore
What the heck does this thing have to do with violence? It has to do with brain-development, which many studies show is slowed by the 60hz boob-tube.
Just because the article is from Katz, doesn't mean it's an extension of the "Hellmouth" series.
-- Keith Moore
Your point validates his, since as a person who wants to affect personal behavior, he would know how to do it.
He should thank your for the support.
-- Keith Moore
AAP is about the equivalent of the AMA (except that they don't sell out to formula companies), in that they have no legal control. They only make recommendations. So your point is quite ignorant.
-- Keith Moore
If I had a moderator point, I would declare that flamebait, but I don't
While your point-of-reference is a bit odd, I would make a few valid points-of-reference:
I can not cut a tree down in my own yard without a permit.
I can not build a shed in my own yard without a permit
I can not rebuild my own kitchen, inside my own house (which I own), without a permit. (no outside changes)
I can not change the oil in my own car on the street. (This is only a few towns, but is spreading quickly)
I can not shoot my own 3 year old child in the head. (Just repeating your point).
-- Keith Moore
My rule is that my child does not watch TV in my house (Easily enforced, WE DON'T HAVE ONE). I do not force them to "look the other way" in another house, because that would be silly, rude, and unenforcable. It would be rude, because it would be one of those "holier then thou" things, which I detest.
I agree, unenforcable rules are stupid, and will erode your authority. However, you made a leap of logic, which I disagree with.
Actually, my parents moved us out to the middle of the country. To go to a party I would have had to walk about 15 miles, which definately controlled my ability to "sneak out". I was a cross-country runner, but it was still a "bit" too long a distance.
Your quote should be changed from "parents can't force them to do anything", to "parents who are unwilling to try hard enough can't force them to do anything". Also, if you raise them well enough in the first 10 years, the teen years can actually go on without rebellion, believe it or not.
-- Keith Moore
One day, when I turned off the TV and my 2 year old son went into a screaming fit, I threw the TV into the basement, that was 1.5 years ago, it's still there. After about a week of hellish behavior, my son was able to sleep better, was less hyper-active, and was much better behaved in general, and I also began getting compliments for how well behaved my son was. I now have 2 children, 3 and 1. They have advance motor skills compared to their peers, because we actually allow them to practice those skills.
TV has no redeeming characteristics. Anything that can be "learned" from TV can be taught by the parents, if they are willing to try. The American Academy of Pediatrics made a suggestion, which I have found by my own experience to be a very good one. They are not law-makers. If they were, every child under 12months would be breast-fed (Mine were), and we would probably have a much lower infant mortality rate. (Oops, I might have upset someone by letting them know they were selfish).
I believe that child raising should be up to the parent, period. If you want to raise your child to be a satan-worshiping, sword-wielding, psychopath, that is your decision. However, I might mention my disagreement with you if I know you, as you will mention your disagreement with me. However, I also believe that it is my right to raise my children as "right wing zealots". So, you raise your children your way, I'll raise mine my way, and let the AAP make their recommendations. In the end, each person will have to live their own lives, and we will be held accountable (I know, this is a unpopular view in modern society) for how we raised our children.
BTW, While I agree with your post, the BR tag is a great tag
-- Keith Moore
Uhm, I was raised on a farm, with very little TV, and almost no Computers. I learned a great deal about life, and when I went to college, learned a great deal about computers. I was a VERY successful programmer for 9 years, and am now a Senior UNIX Administrator. If you give kids the basics of life, computers are a trivial thing to learn. The problem is that somehow, we have decreed that computers are some mystical thing. They are calculators on steroids, not much more.
I have internet access at home, and have ditched the TV. I allow my kids quite a bit of time on the computer, which is at least somewhat interactive, TV has no redeeming qualities at all. Anything done via a TV can be done in a more interactive way on the Web, and I still control Web/Computer access, to insure they maintain active imaginations, and the ability to have common sense, which can really only be learned in RL, not in cyberspace.
Personally, once my children are old enough to be trusted with an interactive type game (Actually, it's the wackos I don't trust more then my kids), I hope that MUSH/MUD/MUCK/MAGEs are still around, since they foster imagination much more than any other type of game.
-- Keith Moore
BTW, how much was that site-license?
We use it here too, and it's a nice product, but it's still solving several problems with NT that shouldn't exist. We use it to recover a desktop system quickly after it gets hosed-up. Just a standard Ghost image for each department. I'm not sure what I'll do if I lose a Linux Workstation, I haven't had to come up with a solution yet.
(I was being sarcastic, I do have a plan, just haven't had to use it).
-- Keith Moore
I still find it odd that some people consider the FSF/UNIX market to be "behind the times", when MS is the one playing catchup (with the exception of Bob & the paperclip, which we really just don't like).
Automatic detection of corrupted files:
rpm -Va (MD5 Checksum checks + others).
Disk image creation/restore:
dd + gzip.
Granted, Ghost does have a few other advantages (ability to restore to different sized disk). However, the basic idea is very old in the UNIX market, and is relatively new in the PC market.
I remember finding a piece of shareware that let you *gasp* make images of a floppy onto your harddrive! Hmm, dd if=/dev/fd0 of=floppy.img.
-- Keith Moore
Of course, anyone bored enough could write a simple script which used rpm -Va and rpm to do the same on a RedHat system. Of course I generally prefer to avoid corrupted files, then creating more bloat to make up for crappy software.
-- Keith Moore
That explains the wax in the NT computer room. Plus, I was wondering why the NT team had included a couple of roosters in the latest quote for a new NT server.
-- Keith Moore