It is clear to me that a core of professional protesters go to universities and recruit vulnerable students into this bizarre counter-society movement. They take people who are concered about the enviroment, conspiracy theorists, vegans, gay and lesbian groups and people who are angry at society and turn them into violent zealots. They are trained to use the media to shape the way the general public see their 'protests' and how to inflame the police
actually, i think there's a school in claremont, ca called pitzer (i happen to go to an engineering school in the same complex) that supplies these morons... last year their big success was protesting the food supplier for not paying the cafeteria staff enough (although the cafeteria staff was more than happy with their 7.25/hour) which led to the college's decision to hire a new company -> end result: all the retards (literally, they hired retards to wash dishes) and minorities (it's california, voluntary affirmitive action) are now jobless, pointing out the effectiveness of this new batch of overactive protesters.
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If ignorance is bliss, wipe the smile off my face
actually, someone already made fools out of the folks at slashdot... or dont you remember this seti@home on a pci card article? ================================================ = If ignorance is bliss, wipe the smile off my face
what do you expect from a company dumb enough to buy Ziff Davis? ========================================== ======= If ignorance is bliss, wipe the smile off my face
I'm not going to say I dont use napster. I'm not going to say that I've never download an entire cd solely so I could burn it and play it in my car. But I'm also not going to criticize the RIAA for trying to enforce their copyrights.
I have a hard time believing that any slashdot reader would do any differently if they were in the places of the lawyers for the RIAA. If they do not attempt to combate such bold cases of copyright infringement, then they lose all ability to prosecute copyright infringement in the future. As far as the RIAA is concerned, they must sue napster, if for no other reason than to set a precedent for copyright violations for their artists. If they, the RIAA, choose not to attack this case of copyright infringement, will they be able to mount a strong case against, hypotheically speaking, another artist who samples bass beats or guitar sections of a song? So, in answer to your question: Is it wrong for me to search for and download songs from artists that produced CD's/Tapes that are no longer available to purchase I present you with an equally valid argument: Is it wrong for a lawyer to set a valid precedent for his clients, regardless of how futile the precedent seems to an outside observer?
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Usually i dont get into the whole Kharma whoring arguement, but you, sir, are a fucking moron.
I live in california. I live in a state where elections involve literally millions of people, of which 18-24 year olds make up less than 5% of the voting population. I dont know if you read political news, but the politicians in california care about three basic things: 1) rich white vote, that's where their money comes from; 2) minority vote, trying to win over the so far un-swayed mexican voters (who cares if they just crossed the border, they still get to vote because we're too stupid to regulate it); and 3) local voters. Since non of the senatorial candidates are from my area, that throws out option three. I'm white, but far from rich (i owe my college quite a bit), so there goes options one and two... so, how, sir, am i supposed to get the politicians to give a flying fuck about my vote? hmmmmmmm? Your demographics are exactly why my votes dont matter... now all this being said, i do still plan on voting, and who supports napster has nothing to do with my candidates of choice.
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typically this topic is referred to as prior restraint, not innocent until proven guilty, and while i dont quite remember the court cases dealing with this issue entirely, i think they can pretty much be summarized as follows: prior restraint is generally frowned upon by the united states supreme court, however: it is acceptible if needed to secure another's rights or if its a protection against national security. this decision is where the "clear and present danger" clause is envoked: prior restraint is acceptible if what is being restrained presents a clear and present danger to the national security of the united states (and/or apparently to another party's rights)....i'll look up the actual supreme court case and quote the opinions later, if i need/have time to:) ============================================== === If ignorance is bliss, wipe the smile off my face
they actually paid for it? isn't it blatantly clear its a scam by now??? anyway, i'd be joining one of the/. or ars teams... but i'm sendin all my blocks to my college.:)
In the mean time, i think one of the editors (come on taco, you can do it) needs to suggest everyone on the shitty losing team change to the winning team! be a frontrunner, its the only way to go! ============================================= ==== If ignorance is bliss, wipe the smile off my face
Actually, in his defense, i was laughing...but then again, i love that kinda third grade shit:) ============================================== === If ignorance is bliss, wipe the smile off my face
or option three: that every major nerd run message board site fell for this joke/hoax/con/etc, supplying the makers of that page with thousands of hits, and probably thousands of dollars (or whatever foreign currency they use wherever they live), and at the same time making the editors of these message boards look like gullible morons? I choose option three. ========================================== ======= If ignorance is bliss, wipe the smile off my face
Hmm...almost $500 for the fully populated card with six processors...
Why not be a little bit smarter? spend the $500 on a case, an abit bp6, two celeron 366 ppga chips, a few bucks on a 10Mb ethernet card, and spit out 2 blocks every 16 hours instead of 1, and still have a computer to serve porn off of...(um, ok, maybe you wouldn't have to serve porn, but I would)
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It doesn't surprise me that/. readers embrace the seti@home program, as you have so readily confirmed with your comment: I'd happily drop up to A$1,000 on it now, and another A$500 every couple of months. What surprises me is the fact that slashdot can't even organize itself well enough to notice its got two teams competing in the overall competition: Team Slashdot and Slashdot... wouldn't it be brilliant if someone actually suggested combining the two?
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Um, everything's an argument for better encryption to/. readers isn't it? I resort to the oldest argument against encryption: if YOU aren't doing anything wrong, why do you care if THEY read your emails? Take, for instance, the emails I wrote this morning. If the FBI wants to hear about how drunk I got over the weekend, I'm sure they'll enjoy these little tidbits of informations. If, however, they're looking for stories about people planning a nationwide terror campaign, I'm sure they're realize they read the wrong email within a few seconds, and most likely delete it.
Obviously, I can sympathize with businesses concerned about "confidential" traffic, but if what they're sending is really that important, send some peon from the mailroom to deliver it personally.
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I think the problem is you generalize all universities together. Some of us do attend universities where QM is taught to first year undergrads, in the same class as classical mechanics, specifically to avoid the problems that this entire thread seems to be experiencing.
Furthermore, my college adds a few classes involving relativity to further understanding of abstract ideas and prevent us from making moronic (although probably troll-induced) comments such as (i'm paraphrasing) light is a wave and has no momentum. So I think the really big problem here isn't backwards teaching, its over generalizations, not only with these posts, but with the science behind the posts.
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The laser would be earth bound, and nothing more than a a large peace of equipment. A laser pointing towards the sky shouldn't scare anyone.
I openly admit that I am not a physics major and I haven't spent very much time with anything related to aerospace, but if you mount the laser on earth, wouldn't you then be required to have multiple lasers to account for the rotation of the earth? This would also cause problems as the laser responsible for primary propulsion was switched, as the velocity would change, and therefore result in a constantly changing velocity/trajectory, dramatically increasing the difficulty of a simple mission. It seems that the earlier comment of a space based laser would be more appropriate, but even that must orbit something... so wouldn't it still face similar (although possibly substantially less) problems?
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
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Plug in cables? So that's what i was doing wrong... no wonder nothing ever worked... ======================================= ========== If ignorance is bliss, wipe the smile off my face
Not that I believe online movies will stop people from going to theatres, but with all due respect, very few movies are released straight to VHS or straight to cable... True, there are some that go straight to Blockbuster, but they aren't worth paying for. Similarily, made for TV movies typically aren't worth watching (in my opinion anyway...I dont ever remember being overly impressed by any made for tv movies). If however they do start releasing decent movies online, this could be what you term more of a revolution: good movies available immediately....Although I guess this all depends on whether or not they actually release any good movies online.
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The appeal of traditional movies isn't always just sitting and watching. For a vast majority of viewers, its a social activity. Watching commedies with a group of friends in a crowded theatre can not be recreated online. Watching horror/suspense movies in dark theatres can be slightly recreated by a home viewer by turning off the lights, closing the windows, etc., but try telling your girlfriend its the same thing and I think you'll find she either laughs at you or breaks up with you.
Going to movie theatres isn't always about watching movies... its an experience that involved environmental factors as well. Until you can pack your house/dorm room/etc with 100 of your closest friends who make rude comments and laugh at unappropriate times, you can not recreate the movie going experience by downloading them online. Besides...some of us still use modems, and it would take me years to download it anyway...I'd rather spend the $8.
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On a side note though... how do you know it (the hole) can't maintain its integrity for a long enough period of time... maybe the surface tension is high enough that it could maintain a sufficient diameter long enough to pass through? ======================================== ========= If ignorance is bliss, wipe the smile off my face
I dont understand this at all... He gets a 4 for an "insightful" comment..when he's stating facts any 8 year old knows...where's the insight?? Moderate me down again, I dont care. But dont moderate these people up for these amazingly obvious posts. ========================================== ======= If ignorance is bliss, wipe the smile off my face
Um, theoretically, you're wrong. In a frictionless world without air resistance, however, you are correct. I think I remember doing a problem like this for a differential equations test, the one way trip falling through the center of the earth and coming out the other side takes approximately 42 minutes. However, this assumes no air resistance or friction. Last time I checked, your little trip would leave you burning in the middle...unless you also have a way to make your tunnel into a vaccuum, but then you'd run out of air for the 42 minutes, so you'd be screwed anyway...
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Fool, one, not fools, many. And it's "grammar", not "grammer". And yes, I do go around reading posts and comment on their mistakes, mostly because after working (you do work dont you?) long hours I typically enjoy sitting back and laughing at careless people. Furthermore, while I understand your sympathy, I personally prefer apathy, which explains my posts for the last week or so:). ============================================= ==== If ignorance is bliss, wipe the smile off my face
Lets not be absurd here... just because the official units are Imperial doesn't mean we use them for anything except public displays. If you take a few seconds to pull your head out of your ass (or arse if you'd prefer), I believe you'd notice that the second comment in this thread (namely my first one) mentions newtons vs. pounds, and does in fact give the correct SI units of newtons. We americans aren't nearly as dumb as you give us credit for, every science class from high school up uses SI units. ========================================== ======= If ignorance is bliss, wipe the smile off my face
I'd be lying if i said i was anything less than impressed. Your overwhelming devotion to my art interests me. My only hope is that its an intellectual interest, and not homosexual in origin.
For clarification, all posts on this particular story were written after working a 12 hour shift after 4 hours of sleep, and therefore aren't necessarily indicative of my true aptitude.
To answer your question, no, I'm not anal. I define anal as someone who spends more than three minutes on any particular post, and this one is reaching the two minute mark rather quickly, so I'll be brief. As for your I see. I suppose I am also a "fucktard". comment, if you want to classify yourself as a fucktard, who am I to stop you?
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Damn! Someone needs to inform whoever keeps writing these science books i'm reading... because every text book i own has "meter" as a unit of measurement.... ================================= ================ If ignorance is bliss, wipe the smile off my face
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It is clear to me that a core of professional protesters go to universities and recruit vulnerable students into this bizarre counter-society movement. They take people who are concered about the enviroment, conspiracy theorists, vegans, gay and lesbian groups and people who are angry at society and turn them into violent zealots. They are trained to use the media to shape the way the general public see their 'protests' and how to inflame the police
... last year their big success was protesting the food supplier for not paying the cafeteria staff enough (although the cafeteria staff was more than happy with their 7.25/hour) which led to the college's decision to hire a new company -> end result: all the retards (literally, they hired retards to wash dishes) and minorities (it's california, voluntary affirmitive action) are now jobless, pointing out the effectiveness of this new batch of overactive protesters.
actually, i think there's a school in claremont, ca called pitzer (i happen to go to an engineering school in the same complex) that supplies these morons
yeah, but can it run something pictured on this page?= ======
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actually, someone already made fools out of the folks at slashdot... or dont you remember this seti@home on a pci card article?= =
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what do you expect from a company dumb enough to buy Ziff Davis?= =======
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I'm not going to say I dont use napster. I'm not going to say that I've never download an entire cd solely so I could burn it and play it in my car. But I'm also not going to criticize the RIAA for trying to enforce their copyrights.
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I have a hard time believing that any slashdot reader would do any differently if they were in the places of the lawyers for the RIAA. If they do not attempt to combate such bold cases of copyright infringement, then they lose all ability to prosecute copyright infringement in the future. As far as the RIAA is concerned, they must sue napster, if for no other reason than to set a precedent for copyright violations for their artists. If they, the RIAA, choose not to attack this case of copyright infringement, will they be able to mount a strong case against, hypotheically speaking, another artist who samples bass beats or guitar sections of a song? So, in answer to your question: Is it wrong for me to search for and download songs from artists that produced CD's/Tapes that are no longer available to purchase I present you with an equally valid argument: Is it wrong for a lawyer to set a valid precedent for his clients, regardless of how futile the precedent seems to an outside observer?
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Usually i dont get into the whole Kharma whoring arguement, but you, sir, are a fucking moron.
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I live in california. I live in a state where elections involve literally millions of people, of which 18-24 year olds make up less than 5% of the voting population. I dont know if you read political news, but the politicians in california care about three basic things: 1) rich white vote, that's where their money comes from; 2) minority vote, trying to win over the so far un-swayed mexican voters (who cares if they just crossed the border, they still get to vote because we're too stupid to regulate it); and 3) local voters. Since non of the senatorial candidates are from my area, that throws out option three. I'm white, but far from rich (i owe my college quite a bit), so there goes options one and two... so, how, sir, am i supposed to get the politicians to give a flying fuck about my vote? hmmmmmmm? Your demographics are exactly why my votes dont matter... now all this being said, i do still plan on voting, and who supports napster has nothing to do with my candidates of choice.
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typically this topic is referred to as prior restraint, not innocent until proven guilty, and while i dont quite remember the court cases dealing with this issue entirely, i think they can pretty much be summarized as follows: prior restraint is generally frowned upon by the united states supreme court, however: it is acceptible if needed to secure another's rights or if its a protection against national security. this decision is where the "clear and present danger" clause is envoked: prior restraint is acceptible if what is being restrained presents a clear and present danger to the national security of the united states (and/or apparently to another party's rights)....i'll look up the actual supreme court case and quote the opinions later, if i need/have time to :)= ===
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they actually paid for it? isn't it blatantly clear its a scam by now??? anyway, i'd be joining one of the /. or ars teams... but i'm sendin all my blocks to my college. :)
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In the mean time, i think one of the editors (come on taco, you can do it) needs to suggest everyone on the shitty losing team change to the winning team! be a frontrunner, its the only way to go!
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Actually, in his defense, i was laughing...but then again, i love that kinda third grade shit :)= ===
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or option three: that every major nerd run message board site fell for this joke/hoax/con/etc, supplying the makers of that page with thousands of hits, and probably thousands of dollars (or whatever foreign currency they use wherever they live), and at the same time making the editors of these message boards look like gullible morons? I choose option three.= =======
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Hmm...almost $500 for the fully populated card with six processors...
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Why not be a little bit smarter? spend the $500 on a case, an abit bp6, two celeron 366 ppga chips, a few bucks on a 10Mb ethernet card, and spit out 2 blocks every 16 hours instead of 1, and still have a computer to serve porn off of...(um, ok, maybe you wouldn't have to serve porn, but I would)
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It doesn't surprise me that /. readers embrace the seti@home program, as you have so readily confirmed with your comment: I'd happily drop up to A$1,000 on it now, and another A$500 every couple of months. What surprises me is the fact that slashdot can't even organize itself well enough to notice its got two teams competing in the overall competition: Team Slashdot and Slashdot ... wouldn't it be brilliant if someone actually suggested combining the two?
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Now here's an argument for better encryption.
/. readers isn't it? I resort to the oldest argument against encryption: if YOU aren't doing anything wrong, why do you care if THEY read your emails? Take, for instance, the emails I wrote this morning. If the FBI wants to hear about how drunk I got over the weekend, I'm sure they'll enjoy these little tidbits of informations. If, however, they're looking for stories about people planning a nationwide terror campaign, I'm sure they're realize they read the wrong email within a few seconds, and most likely delete it.
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Um, everything's an argument for better encryption to
Obviously, I can sympathize with businesses concerned about "confidential" traffic, but if what they're sending is really that important, send some peon from the mailroom to deliver it personally.
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I think the problem is you generalize all universities together. Some of us do attend universities where QM is taught to first year undergrads, in the same class as classical mechanics, specifically to avoid the problems that this entire thread seems to be experiencing.
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Furthermore, my college adds a few classes involving relativity to further understanding of abstract ideas and prevent us from making moronic (although probably troll-induced) comments such as (i'm paraphrasing) light is a wave and has no momentum. So I think the really big problem here isn't backwards teaching, its over generalizations, not only with these posts, but with the science behind the posts.
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The laser would be earth bound, and nothing more than a a large peace of equipment. A laser pointing towards the sky shouldn't scare anyone.
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I openly admit that I am not a physics major and I haven't spent very much time with anything related to aerospace, but if you mount the laser on earth, wouldn't you then be required to have multiple lasers to account for the rotation of the earth? This would also cause problems as the laser responsible for primary propulsion was switched, as the velocity would change, and therefore result in a constantly changing velocity/trajectory, dramatically increasing the difficulty of a simple mission. It seems that the earlier comment of a space based laser would be more appropriate, but even that must orbit something... so wouldn't it still face similar (although possibly substantially less) problems?
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
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Plug in cables? So that's what i was doing wrong... no wonder nothing ever worked...= ==========
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Not that I believe online movies will stop people from going to theatres, but with all due respect, very few movies are released straight to VHS or straight to cable... True, there are some that go straight to Blockbuster, but they aren't worth paying for. Similarily, made for TV movies typically aren't worth watching (in my opinion anyway...I dont ever remember being overly impressed by any made for tv movies). If however they do start releasing decent movies online, this could be what you term more of a revolution: good movies available immediately....Although I guess this all depends on whether or not they actually release any good movies online.
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The appeal of traditional movies isn't always just sitting and watching. For a vast majority of viewers, its a social activity. Watching commedies with a group of friends in a crowded theatre can not be recreated online. Watching horror/suspense movies in dark theatres can be slightly recreated by a home viewer by turning off the lights, closing the windows, etc., but try telling your girlfriend its the same thing and I think you'll find she either laughs at you or breaks up with you.
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Going to movie theatres isn't always about watching movies... its an experience that involved environmental factors as well. Until you can pack your house/dorm room/etc with 100 of your closest friends who make rude comments and laugh at unappropriate times, you can not recreate the movie going experience by downloading them online. Besides...some of us still use modems, and it would take me years to download it anyway...I'd rather spend the $8.
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Indeed... my mistake, congratulations.
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On a side note though... how do you know it (the hole) can't maintain its integrity for a long enough period of time... maybe the surface tension is high enough that it could maintain a sufficient diameter long enough to pass through?
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I dont understand this at all... He gets a 4 for an "insightful" comment..when he's stating facts any 8 year old knows...where's the insight?? Moderate me down again, I dont care. But dont moderate these people up for these amazingly obvious posts.= =======
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Um, theoretically, you're wrong. In a frictionless world without air resistance, however, you are correct. I think I remember doing a problem like this for a differential equations test, the one way trip falling through the center of the earth and coming out the other side takes approximately 42 minutes. However, this assumes no air resistance or friction. Last time I checked, your little trip would leave you burning in the middle...unless you also have a way to make your tunnel into a vaccuum, but then you'd run out of air for the 42 minutes, so you'd be screwed anyway...
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Fool, one, not fools, many. And it's "grammar", not "grammer". And yes, I do go around reading posts and comment on their mistakes, mostly because after working (you do work dont you?) long hours I typically enjoy sitting back and laughing at careless people. Furthermore, while I understand your sympathy, I personally prefer apathy, which explains my posts for the last week or so :).= ====
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Lets not be absurd here... just because the official units are Imperial doesn't mean we use them for anything except public displays. If you take a few seconds to pull your head out of your ass (or arse if you'd prefer), I believe you'd notice that the second comment in this thread (namely my first one) mentions newtons vs. pounds, and does in fact give the correct SI units of newtons. We americans aren't nearly as dumb as you give us credit for, every science class from high school up uses SI units.= =======
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I'd be lying if i said i was anything less than impressed. Your overwhelming devotion to my art interests me. My only hope is that its an intellectual interest, and not homosexual in origin.
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For clarification, all posts on this particular story were written after working a 12 hour shift after 4 hours of sleep, and therefore aren't necessarily indicative of my true aptitude.
To answer your question, no, I'm not anal. I define anal as someone who spends more than three minutes on any particular post, and this one is reaching the two minute mark rather quickly, so I'll be brief. As for your I see. I suppose I am also a "fucktard". comment, if you want to classify yourself as a fucktard, who am I to stop you?
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Damn! Someone needs to inform whoever keeps writing these science books i'm reading... because every text book i own has "meter" as a unit of measurement....= ================
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