If it can reach the backplane, I would hope there's enough room to run cables off the side internally.
Either way running the cables out and then back in seems like such a waste of effort especially because you'd need esata to sata cables or adapters.
Not trying to rag on you or anything, just pointing out that for most people they'd be better served by a pci->sata card with multiple internal ports than pci->esata
The tradeoff is that you get something that's extremely easy to maintain and extremely easy to upgrade. You don't need to know a thing about Linux, RAID, servers, etc.. just need to know how to plug in drives and open the management dashboard. As his storage needs grow, so can the drobo's capacity. I have used the Firewire 800 model for about 2 years now and I have to say it's great, though its speed is slightly handicapped by its processor. The FS is supposed to fix that and has a 5th bay. I wish I could upgrade, but again, it's not cheap.
The Drobo isn't cheap by any means, but it does merit some serious consideration.
If it doesn't have a start menu or a knockoff start menu(yes I'm looking at you Linux), then it's obviously evil here. How dare you question them in their own house!
But in all seriousness, apple didn't want any other apps on their device until the public demanded it basically. They did want them to be web based, which sucked beyond imagining. Apple is making this OS more and more open constantly, but they won't ever be "free", that's just unrealistic
I see a major misunderstanding here between Free(as in speach), free(as in beer), and "open". Apple is promoting "Open". They are still a for-profit company selling closed devices to access an "open" system. They have no shame here, nor should they.
They make a device to access the web, one non-standard plugin doesn't make the grade for being usable on their hardware so it's not supported. Their options are: 1. Request Adobe fixes their product for mobile devices (10.1, sure we will see with Android being the guinea pig) 2. Apple makes their own workaround (good, but this hack job will probably not good enough or legal). 3. Exclude it as other, more open, standards can fill the void. Apple chose #3. Sorry Adobe, its just business.
Other companies are captalizing on this, as they should be! They are betting on farmville addicts choosing their (possibly inferior) platform over Apple's because of flash support, so they get some sales from people that wouldn't have chosen them without it.
Apple has no problem with that, they just want the people that bought their product having a better overall experience, and then buying v2.0 and v3.0, and also telling their friends. We long-time mac users know what it's like to not have everything, but the stuff we do have actually works
Steve Job's isn't a tech visionary, he's a *salesman*! That's all you need to know.
A salesman that has an uncanny sense of knowing where the market is going, the flexibility to quickly adapt and be there right on time, and a company behind him that churns out products that continue to be top notch in satisfaction year after year.
Works great for me too, though it's overpriced like crazy. I sync multiple macs and my phone. I've had a couple hiccups with syncing, but so is the nature of syncing. For the price it needs more of something... though I don't know what they can offer. It's in dire need of a name change though.
That's why I specified desktop linux. What's great for us "geeks" on our PCs and servers is usually far from what's great for the average user who Apple is trying to reach with most of their products. I love the idea of linux, personally I dislike the implementation (I'll save that rant for a proper thread of course).
But I do see no reason people should shy away from getting some distribution of linux running on the device. As any handheld touchscreen mobile computer with networking should be any geeks dream. As long as people aren't violating any laws doing such of course. I don't know the specifics of the A4 chip they're using.
+points for honesty
If people like it and can use it, buy it, enjoy it. If you don't like it... either don't buy it or develop a better and competitive product. Create a completely open environment like what has been so much of a success in desktop linux ( some people here won't realize that's sarcasm ). I would love a completely hackable mobile platform, but don't expect it from a fortune 500 company
I'm a big fan of Apple products generally, but I won't be an early adopter of this device. I think the device is cool, but the apps for it will really determine if it'll be great or not. If there's a killer app for it, I may. VNC/ARD/RDP client for when I'm working on servers, (already there for the iphone but such a small screen and keyboard can make you go insane) maybe some diagnostic apps for desktops, I'd be on it.
Where are all the articles claiming this same thing about every other cellphone, console gaming system, or solar powered calculator? Jeez, if you want the device so open and think there's a market for that... MAKE IT, get rich!
The mp3 player wasn't "New" when they released the iPod. The cellphone/smartphone wasn't "New" when they released the iPhone. Apple's skills are making those things better and advancing them, integrating new technologies into them.
Paper books can be great for many things. I'm not a fiction reader at all, but I have tons of educational/instructional books for my certifications and hobbies. These books get outdated quickly and have overflowed my bookshelf. I really hate the idea of throwing away $50+ books. I would love to get these electronically and be able to archive them and mostly forget about them, but still have them in the event that I'd have to go back and relearn something from years ago. Doing that without having 125lb boxes in storage in the garage would be a nice advantage. And anyone who moves a lot knows the feeling of dread you get when you reach the "Books Very Heavy!" box.
You forgot that they're a huge leader in their field and there is a very large market for the information by itself. Competitors develop products just over a rumor Apple is making something new and exciting. Apple early adopters start putting away cash for this new product, and people post all over the internet about how bad of an idea rumored iProduct will be, or what features they'd like to see.
I think it also gives Apple a way to test reaction to its products without ever promising anything. That and along with the very active Apple news/rumor sites create a culture that just gets people exited about products, and builds anticipation. I'm sure often these leaks are red herrings too, which keep the "sources" from being accurate often enough to be trusted.
Dumb, dumb, dumb. And one of the dickishest dick rules ever.
Suicide is illegal mainly for show, but it also gives authorities the ability to take certain measures to attempt to prevent it. If your friend said she was about to kill herself and you called the police for them to get there, they would be unable to help if the activity was perfectly legal.
And you're always 100% on time with every request, I bet. Official win7 support I'm sure is low on the priority list at Apple. I am wanting this (even though I am already running win7 just fine on my new MacBook Pro) because there is one minor bug with my setup. It sits at the prompt before boot for about 1 min before it actually starts booting window. I hope this will fix it, though I really haven't looked much at alternative causes much. Beyond that everything just works like it does on any other pc laptop, games and all.
While in an ideal world, you may be 100% correct. Sadly though, users just aren't that bright. If the computer's brand name is Apple, Dell, HP, they typically call the number of that company first, and get angry when you tell them that they need to contact somebody else to get support. While we easily can spot the difference, they don't.
Just say'n...
And long before that I was using an 80Mhz PowerMac 8100/80av with an Orange PC NuBus card, with a 200mhz pentium on the card. Could change environments without a hitch.. It's not new for mac users, confused PC fanboy. GRUB, also, can be a PITA to configure for a novice computer user. The actual "boot loader" that Apple's using has been around since they moved to New World ROM also, back in about 1998 (before GRUB was available), though it only detected Mac OS's (multiple drives, bootable removable media,...). Can hardly get any simpler than just holding the Option key at boot and then having the firmware automatically scan all available media for bootable systems. Only configuration required is running the bootcamp assistant to install Windows.
Say what you want about the rampant fanboyism, the DRM, and the culture of "idea X is dumb and there's no reason for us to support it HEY CHECK OUT OUR NEW FEATURE WE CALL IT iX AND IT IS TOTALLY AWESOME AND UNIQUE BECAUSE IT'S WHITE!" that permeates apple, but there are probably very few of us that wouldn't want to take a time machine back to Dec 2000 and buy a few thousand shares of APPL at $7.50.
(Of course, you could always just get hired by Apple and back date your stock option.....i keed i keed....)
It's Apple's purpose to generate revenue. Steve Jobs has done that without question. They've also done it with some pride and been a leader rather than a follower. If I had a company and I wanted it to become the leader in its field, I would want a man like Jobs at the helm. He may be a control freak, but he's proven he's effective.
If I'm not happy with the one I'm using, I'll switch to another.
Exactly, this is the reason why people started using Google in the first place. Everything else was absolutely full of spam, enough that relevant articles were sometimes first listed on the second or third page of results. I can see companies abusing this, but I suspect communities such as Slashdot will scream bloody murder when results are found to be skewed. From there, it's our choice to keep using it or move on to the next startup with a good search mechanism.
It will severely affect the makers of the Green Dam: American Edition.
Who will innovate in the field of competition-filtering network hardware and software?
Slashdot Mirror
If it can reach the backplane, I would hope there's enough room to run cables off the side internally. Either way running the cables out and then back in seems like such a waste of effort especially because you'd need esata to sata cables or adapters. Not trying to rag on you or anything, just pointing out that for most people they'd be better served by a pci->sata card with multiple internal ports than pci->esata
Um, or just use a regular SATA card? Or am I missing something?
The Drobo isn't cheap by any means, but it does merit some serious consideration.
If it doesn't have a start menu or a knockoff start menu(yes I'm looking at you Linux), then it's obviously evil here. How dare you question them in their own house! But in all seriousness, apple didn't want any other apps on their device until the public demanded it basically. They did want them to be web based, which sucked beyond imagining. Apple is making this OS more and more open constantly, but they won't ever be "free", that's just unrealistic
I see a major misunderstanding here between Free(as in speach), free(as in beer), and "open". Apple is promoting "Open". They are still a for-profit company selling closed devices to access an "open" system. They have no shame here, nor should they.
They make a device to access the web, one non-standard plugin doesn't make the grade for being usable on their hardware so it's not supported. Their options are: 1. Request Adobe fixes their product for mobile devices (10.1, sure we will see with Android being the guinea pig) 2. Apple makes their own workaround (good, but this hack job will probably not good enough or legal). 3. Exclude it as other, more open, standards can fill the void. Apple chose #3. Sorry Adobe, its just business.
Other companies are captalizing on this, as they should be! They are betting on farmville addicts choosing their (possibly inferior) platform over Apple's because of flash support, so they get some sales from people that wouldn't have chosen them without it.
Apple has no problem with that, they just want the people that bought their product having a better overall experience, and then buying v2.0 and v3.0, and also telling their friends. We long-time mac users know what it's like to not have everything, but the stuff we do have actually works
HTML5 isn't going to replace Flash. Proprietary Apple apps are. Proprietary Apple apps already do.
I'm sooo buying Apple stock, you've convinced me.
Steve Job's isn't a tech visionary, he's a *salesman*! That's all you need to know.
A salesman that has an uncanny sense of knowing where the market is going, the flexibility to quickly adapt and be there right on time, and a company behind him that churns out products that continue to be top notch in satisfaction year after year.
Works great for me too, though it's overpriced like crazy. I sync multiple macs and my phone. I've had a couple hiccups with syncing, but so is the nature of syncing. For the price it needs more of something... though I don't know what they can offer. It's in dire need of a name change though.
That's why I specified desktop linux. What's great for us "geeks" on our PCs and servers is usually far from what's great for the average user who Apple is trying to reach with most of their products. I love the idea of linux, personally I dislike the implementation (I'll save that rant for a proper thread of course). But I do see no reason people should shy away from getting some distribution of linux running on the device. As any handheld touchscreen mobile computer with networking should be any geeks dream. As long as people aren't violating any laws doing such of course. I don't know the specifics of the A4 chip they're using.
+points for honesty If people like it and can use it, buy it, enjoy it. If you don't like it... either don't buy it or develop a better and competitive product. Create a completely open environment like what has been so much of a success in desktop linux ( some people here won't realize that's sarcasm ). I would love a completely hackable mobile platform, but don't expect it from a fortune 500 company
I'm a big fan of Apple products generally, but I won't be an early adopter of this device. I think the device is cool, but the apps for it will really determine if it'll be great or not. If there's a killer app for it, I may. VNC/ARD/RDP client for when I'm working on servers, (already there for the iphone but such a small screen and keyboard can make you go insane) maybe some diagnostic apps for desktops, I'd be on it.
Where are all the articles claiming this same thing about every other cellphone, console gaming system, or solar powered calculator? Jeez, if you want the device so open and think there's a market for that... MAKE IT, get rich!
The mp3 player wasn't "New" when they released the iPod. The cellphone/smartphone wasn't "New" when they released the iPhone. Apple's skills are making those things better and advancing them, integrating new technologies into them.
Paper books can be great for many things. I'm not a fiction reader at all, but I have tons of educational/instructional books for my certifications and hobbies. These books get outdated quickly and have overflowed my bookshelf. I really hate the idea of throwing away $50+ books. I would love to get these electronically and be able to archive them and mostly forget about them, but still have them in the event that I'd have to go back and relearn something from years ago. Doing that without having 125lb boxes in storage in the garage would be a nice advantage. And anyone who moves a lot knows the feeling of dread you get when you reach the "Books Very Heavy!" box.
You forgot that they're a huge leader in their field and there is a very large market for the information by itself. Competitors develop products just over a rumor Apple is making something new and exciting. Apple early adopters start putting away cash for this new product, and people post all over the internet about how bad of an idea rumored iProduct will be, or what features they'd like to see.
I think it also gives Apple a way to test reaction to its products without ever promising anything. That and along with the very active Apple news/rumor sites create a culture that just gets people exited about products, and builds anticipation. I'm sure often these leaks are red herrings too, which keep the "sources" from being accurate often enough to be trusted.
Dumb, dumb, dumb. And one of the dickishest dick rules ever.
Suicide is illegal mainly for show, but it also gives authorities the ability to take certain measures to attempt to prevent it. If your friend said she was about to kill herself and you called the police for them to get there, they would be unable to help if the activity was perfectly legal.
And you're always 100% on time with every request, I bet. Official win7 support I'm sure is low on the priority list at Apple. I am wanting this (even though I am already running win7 just fine on my new MacBook Pro) because there is one minor bug with my setup. It sits at the prompt before boot for about 1 min before it actually starts booting window. I hope this will fix it, though I really haven't looked much at alternative causes much. Beyond that everything just works like it does on any other pc laptop, games and all.
While in an ideal world, you may be 100% correct. Sadly though, users just aren't that bright. If the computer's brand name is Apple, Dell, HP, they typically call the number of that company first, and get angry when you tell them that they need to contact somebody else to get support. While we easily can spot the difference, they don't. Just say'n...
And long before that I was using an 80Mhz PowerMac 8100/80av with an Orange PC NuBus card, with a 200mhz pentium on the card. Could change environments without a hitch.. It's not new for mac users, confused PC fanboy. GRUB, also, can be a PITA to configure for a novice computer user. The actual "boot loader" that Apple's using has been around since they moved to New World ROM also, back in about 1998 (before GRUB was available), though it only detected Mac OS's (multiple drives, bootable removable media, ...). Can hardly get any simpler than just holding the Option key at boot and then having the firmware automatically scan all available media for bootable systems. Only configuration required is running the bootcamp assistant to install Windows.
Say what you want about the rampant fanboyism, the DRM, and the culture of "idea X is dumb and there's no reason for us to support it HEY CHECK OUT OUR NEW FEATURE WE CALL IT iX AND IT IS TOTALLY AWESOME AND UNIQUE BECAUSE IT'S WHITE!" that permeates apple, but there are probably very few of us that wouldn't want to take a time machine back to Dec 2000 and buy a few thousand shares of APPL at $7.50.
(Of course, you could always just get hired by Apple and back date your stock option.....i keed i keed....)
It's Apple's purpose to generate revenue. Steve Jobs has done that without question. They've also done it with some pride and been a leader rather than a follower. If I had a company and I wanted it to become the leader in its field, I would want a man like Jobs at the helm. He may be a control freak, but he's proven he's effective.
If I'm not happy with the one I'm using, I'll switch to another.
Exactly, this is the reason why people started using Google in the first place. Everything else was absolutely full of spam, enough that relevant articles were sometimes first listed on the second or third page of results. I can see companies abusing this, but I suspect communities such as Slashdot will scream bloody murder when results are found to be skewed. From there, it's our choice to keep using it or move on to the next startup with a good search mechanism.
It will severely affect the makers of the Green Dam: American Edition.
Who will innovate in the field of competition-filtering network hardware and software?
The only regulation needed is regulation that states X company can't keep Y company from allowing me to access legal content and services online.