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How Apple Orchestrates Controlled Leaks, and Why

Lanxon writes "'I was a Senior Marketing Manager at Apple and I was instructed to do some controlled leaks,' confesses John Martellaro. Monday's article at the Wall Street Journal, which provided confirmation of an Apple tablet device, had all the earmarks of a controlled leak. Here's how Apple does it. Often Apple has a need to let information out, unofficially. The company has been doing that for years, and it helps preserve Apple's consistent, official reputation for never talking about unreleased products. The way it works is that a senior exec will come in and say, 'We need to release this specific information. John, do you have a trusted friend at a major outlet? If so, call him/her and have a conversation. Idly mention this information and suggest that if it were published, that would be nice. No e-mails!'"

195 comments

  1. Still waiting... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm still waiting for an photo ipod touch.

    1. Re:Still waiting... by armanox · · Score: 4, Funny

      I'm waiting for the iPhone Shuffle.

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    2. Re:Still waiting... by Xenious · · Score: 3, Funny

      If they were released during the winter i'd say that is the dance you do to keep warm waiting outside in line to buy one.

      It's a swipe to the right
      type in that PIN
      search for your app (there's one for that)
      let the fun begin

      It's the iPhone Shuffle

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    3. Re:Still waiting... by should_be_linear · · Score: 4, Funny

      I am waiting for iScored :-(

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    4. Re:Still waiting... by Arthur+Grumbine · · Score: 2, Funny

      I have a couple friends who have the iPhone Shuffle. If by iPhone Shuffle you are talking about that the condition where one slowly ambles aimlessly around while waiting for their videos, etc. to load over AT&T's overly-congested-doesn't-even-begin-to-describe-it network. It's very tragic to watch.

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    5. Re:Still waiting... by omnichad · · Score: 1

      I wish I had mod points. Catchy music.

    6. Re:Still waiting... by Aqua_Geek · · Score: 1

      You've obviously never had to take your iPhone in for repair...

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    7. Re:Still waiting... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm waiting for the iPod Flea.

    8. Re:Still waiting... by tchdab1 · · Score: 3, Funny

      You mean the phone with one button that dials a random number in your phonebook?

    9. Re:Still waiting... by armanox · · Score: 1

      I obviously don't own an iPhone.

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    10. Re:Still waiting... by ubrgeek · · Score: 1

      So are most /. readers.

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    11. Re:Still waiting... by SerpensV · · Score: 1

      I'm waiting for the MacBook Wheel.

    12. Re:Still waiting... by drsmithy · · Score: 1

      I'm still waiting for my PowerBook G5. Luckily, I heard it'll be released next Tuesday !

    13. Re:Still waiting... by Phoghat · · Score: 1
      It's just a jump to the left

      And then a step to the right

      With your hands on your hips

      You bring your knees in tight

      But it's the pelvic thrust that really drives you insane,

      Let's wait for Apple again

      Sing to the tune of "Lets do the Time Warp Agagin

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    14. Re:Still waiting... by kchr · · Score: 1

      Wait, what's that phone thing you talk about... You mean you can actually call people with an iPhone?

  2. duh? by falcon5768 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Thats how they all do it. Hell its even how the government does it. This isnt news, its well known common practice. Thats why its always fun when Apple goes after someone about a leak. Because in those situations, you KNOW Apple didnt authorize the leak and it makes you snicker.

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    1. Re:duh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      I think the point of the article is

      "OMG Apple does what everyone else does.. but they're supposed to be all lovely and nice and cool and they love bunnies and kittens and would never do things like that."

    2. Re:duh? by bondsbw · · Score: 5, Insightful

      "OMG Apple does what everyone else does..."

      Not really. Most companies freely brag about their unreleased products in order to gain hype. Apple has everybody else brag about their products to gain hype. That keeps them legit and makes it hard to accuse them of announcing vaporware.

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    3. Re:duh? by Cronock · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I think it also gives Apple a way to test reaction to its products without ever promising anything. That and along with the very active Apple news/rumor sites create a culture that just gets people exited about products, and builds anticipation. I'm sure often these leaks are red herrings too, which keep the "sources" from being accurate often enough to be trusted.

    4. Re:duh? by elrous0 · · Score: 5, Funny

      With all these flamebait mods, I can't help but picture a legion of hipster-wannabe Mac fanboys with mod points glaring at their MacBook screens, caressing their iPhones like rosaries, all mumbling "How DARE they insult Father Steve!!!" in unison in every juice bar in America.

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    5. Re:duh? by Sophira · · Score: 3, Informative

      Except that they shut Think Secret down, remember?

    6. Re:duh? by falcon5768 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      But that goes to my other point. It was obvious Think Secret from the getgo was getting TRUE insider information, and not controlled leaks, as they leaked products that NEVER made it to market sometimes and it did cause Apple a lot of trouble.

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    7. Re:duh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Don't forget in every coffee shop, community college, and Arts buildings of many universities around the world.

    8. Re:duh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How does promoting your own products (called 'marketing') in a way guaranteed to draw more attention make Apple not "nice and cool and they love bunnies and kittens"?

    9. Re:duh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

      I have a MacBook Pro, jerk.

      MacBooks are for wanna-bes.

    10. Re:duh? by interiot · · Score: 3, Informative

      Sure, it's good business sense to get consumer/reviewer reaction before investing all the money required to develop a product. But again, this has been standard practice among corporations and politicians for a while.

    11. Re:duh? by 3dr · · Score: 1, Funny

      I'm caressing my iphone at an oxygen bar, you insensitive clod.

    12. Re:duh? by Idaho · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Not really. Most companies freely brag about their unreleased products in order to gain hype. Apple has everybody else brag about their products to gain hype.

      Exactly, a perfect example can be found here. Look how the article says "Microsoft and H.P. to Reveal Slate PC Ahead of Apple", and then proceeds with "The slate will be made by Hewlett-Packard and possibly available by mid-year, these people said."

      Possibly available by mid-year. Right. It's the typical Microsoft strategy of announcing a product before the competitor, hoping that this will deter people from buying the competitors product. At least when Apple announces anything, you know you can order it from the Apple store the next day.

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    13. Re:duh? by Quiet_Desperation · · Score: 1

      -1 Troll in 5...4...3...

      Yes, but only because there's no "-1 Eeeewww!" mod.

      Didn't /. once promise a whole array of new mod selections one time long ago?

    14. Re:duh? by couchslug · · Score: 1

      "Because in those situations, you KNOW Apple didnt authorize the leak and it makes you snicker."

      They certainly wouldn't be sophisticated enough to use that tactic to reinforce a deliberate leak...

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    15. Re:duh? by 0xdeadbeef · · Score: 2, Funny

      At least when Apple announces anything, you know you can order it from the Apple store the next day.

      The iPhone was announced on January 9, 2007. It went on sale on June 29, 2007.

      But hey, don't let a little thing like reality get in the way of your faith.

    16. Re:duh? by falcon5768 · · Score: 1

      thing is they haven't in the past. Strong words yes, but they never actually go after them to find out who leaked it. But in the case of Think Secret they ACTIVELY in court pursued the leak, meaning it wasnt authorized.

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    17. Re:duh? by dangitman · · Score: 1

      At least when Apple announces anything, you know you can order it from the Apple store the next day.

      ... and have it delivered in three months or so.

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    18. Re:duh? by Dorkmaster+Flek · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I don't think he meant literally the next day, but his point is valid. When Apple announces something, it doesn't disappear after many delays as vaporware.

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    19. Re:duh? by Tom · · Score: 4, Informative

      The iPhone was announced on January 9, 2007. It went on sale on June 29, 2007.

      And on the day it was announced, Steve apologized for this unusual early disclosure and explained why they did it. Of course you remember, don't you? After all, you could remember the date (I couldn't).

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    20. Re:duh? by shadow349 · · Score: 1

      I think the point of the article is

      No, the point of this article can be summed up in one sentence:

      "Blue Horseshoe loves the iSlate"

    21. Re:duh? by gtall · · Score: 1

      Does it help you to believe in the existence of Mac Fanbois?

    22. Re:duh? by golden+age+villain · · Score: 1

      How DARE you... Wait!

    23. Re:duh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Which was the exception, not the rule. But hey, don't let reality get in the way of saying something contrary about Apple, or being a dick to someone on the internet.

    24. Re:duh? by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      That keeps them legit and makes it hard to accuse them of announcing vaporware.

      Well it did until somebody found the sneaky blighters out. It totally caught me by surprise, and no mistake.

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    25. Re:duh? by tlhIngan · · Score: 4, Insightful

      At least when Apple announces anything, you know you can order it from the Apple store the next day.

      The iPhone was announced on January 9, 2007. It went on sale on June 29, 2007.

      But hey, don't let a little thing like reality get in the way of your faith.

      That's because the FCC was going to "leak" it first if it wasn't announced. It's part of FCC policy. And heck, the FCC bent to Apple in allowing the documents describing the iPhone (manuals, RF tests, photos inside and out, etc) be held confidential until after the announcement. Then everyone went nuts on the FCC's website downloading manuals and photos and all that.

      Hell, there are people whose sole daily activity involve scanning the FCC database for new products and publishing the results - it's how we find out about new cellphones and gadgets way before they're announced.

      But hey, never let a little government regulation get in the way of a good argument.

    26. Re:duh? by elrous0 · · Score: 1

      My brother-in-law is one, and I'm pretty sure he's real. Now Santa Claus, on the other hand, does not in fact exist. And if he does exist, that fat bastard owes me years of back presents.

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    27. Re:duh? by feepness · · Score: 1

      But that goes to my other point. It was obvious Think Secret from the getgo was getting TRUE insider information, and not controlled leaks, as they leaked products that NEVER made it to market sometimes and it did cause Apple a lot of trouble.

      Apple is considering releasing a 40 foot tall robot equipped with lasers and a capacitive touchscreen.

      On the off chance this isn't actually released, this demonstrates I have true insider information.

    28. Re:duh? by nine-times · · Score: 3, Informative

      They actually said in that case that they were announcing early because they had to file papers with the FCC, which would essentially make the product public knowledge anyway.

      The other time that they frequently announce products ahead of release is OS upgrades, but that's usually done around the time they're starting to release developer builds of the OS.

    29. Re:duh? by eleuthero · · Score: 2, Interesting

      since most of this thread is about the iphone - 5% failure rate... less than any other smart phone. And if you take something in to Apple, they don't usually "repair" it, they usually just give you a new phone. This is less true with their computers, although they do have a no-lemon policy (non-disclosed as far as I know).

    30. Re:duh? by omnichad · · Score: 1

      Maybe it's part of R&D. Leak a vague idea, and let the apple fans start guessing features, which Apple then takes and makes into a product.

    31. Re:duh? by mr_lizard13 · · Score: 1

      This isnt news, its well known common practice.

      Shhh. Apple invented it, and hold the patents for it.

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    32. Re:duh? by DarkVader · · Score: 1

      Well, that's been true the last few years.

      They really got burned with Mac OS 8. Not the one that came out, the one that was codenamed Copland.

    33. Re:duh? by Da_Biz · · Score: 1

      Absolutely - and boy, do I miss Think Secret!

      Interesting article, but most of it was "duh, ya think?"

    34. Re:duh? by falcon5768 · · Score: 1

      funny, but ThinkSecret actually released information on projects that we know later were canceled directly BECAUSE of the leak such as the Garageband interface.

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    35. Re:duh? by Brandee07 · · Score: 2, Informative

      In general, Grandparent is right. In the case of the iPhone, they had to announce early or let the FCC do the announcing for them, because the FCC publishes data about the various phones they approve.

      But most of the time, a new product is available for purchase within a week, if not a day, of the announcement.

    36. Re:duh? by chromas · · Score: 1

      They canceled out of spite?

    37. Re:duh? by chromas · · Score: 1

      Yeah but the promise got moderated down to -1, Teehee

    38. Re:duh? by g253 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Apple was lame at the time. But there was a company called NeXT which put out some very clever designs, and we know what came of that. Catch my drift?

    39. Re:duh? by ptudor · · Score: 1
      I still have a disc+dmg, it should run under 7.5 if anyone has that running, called "Mac OS 8 Tour" from say early 1996 of the OS that never was released. It would be interesting to see what ideas eventually did re-emerge, the same way At Ease and iPhone Home Screen are similar and Newton handwriting technology is preserved in Ink.

      I remain disappointed JLG couldn't price Be for Apple but BeOS was lost to the future during the days of the BeBox when they selected a single-user model instead of embracing multi-user support as NT did and Apple would with OpenStep. No computer has felt more powerfully usable than my PowerPC Be machine. But NetPositive was about as usable as CyberDog.

    40. Re:duh? by Swift2001 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Had to do with the application for an FCC clearance, after which all kinds of things were going to become public anyway.

    41. Re:duh? by Swift2001 · · Score: 1

      They lost the case, but the young man running Think Secret did fold up because of legal expenses.

      The thing is, they, and some others, were getting real, honest-to-god leaks of real-life products. Steve doesn't like that, you'll notice. No crowd sourcing for him. He wants that moment of surprise on the announcement. He fires people who leak, and everyone knows it. One of the things that Apple has done is plant false stories with one person inside. Then, if that false story leaks, that inside source gets his desk packed up. There was a while, a few years back, when the new Steve keynote had been called, with specific details, indicating real leaks. He clamped down, creating the kind of secrecy for the iPhone that the CIA wishes they could provide. Then, six months ahead, vague rumors started. Probably from a few well-placed facts, and some guesses, just like this article implies. The buzz was on. This way, the publicity is done by the Apple fans. And the Apple-haters play their unpaid part!

      Compare this to the Microsoft publicity departments, a bunch of check-suited retards who manipulate standard, boilerplate PR and stock footage to make... 1975-style publicity, a la Herb Tarlick on WKRP in Cincinnati.

    42. Re:duh? by Swift2001 · · Score: 1

      Apple does not comment on unreleased products.

      There's a possibility that the projects never were live. Steve has definitely been known to "leak" false information, because when it shows up it also identifies the leaker.

    43. Re:duh? by mudkip1123 · · Score: 1

      Where do you live to get such fast shipping? I am still waiting for my shiny new imac.

  3. Another Apple Trick by eldavojohn · · Score: 5, Funny

    Say Jobs wants to fire someone but he doesn't want to lose them to another company. So he calls up the manager or whoever and asks him to do a 'controlled leak' for him via cellphone at Devil's Slough near Cupertino and wants to meet him there at 3am but come alone and no e-mails, no mention of this to anyone, no sort of traceability just to cover our asses because, hey, this is a controlled leak, right? But he asks the guy to stop at a random pub and buy Steve a bottle of their finest alcohol.

    So the guy shows up and there's Steve walking along the railroad tracks above Devil's Slough. Well, when the guy approaches him, Steve hands him a cell phone and takes the bottle of liquor. Depending on how much Steve likes the bottle of liquor is how Steve proceeds next. If he likes it, he lets the man realize the cellphone is just an iPhone shell and Steve embraces him as Steve injects him with pentobarbital and gently lets him fall to his death in the slough. Now if Steve doesn't like the bottle, he pulls out his chic white iDesert Eagle and puts one in the back of each of the guy's legs gangland style. Then he usually taunts and complains about the bottle the guy brought him before roundhousing him to the head off the railroad tracks. He usually finishes it with a really bad hollywood-esque pun (ex. "consider your employment terminated!") and holds the gun sideways to look badass. Either way the guy just becomes a faceless statistic of people who drank too much at a bar and were mugged on their way home. And since it was a 'controlled leak' no one knows about it.

    It's all true. Reiser tried but failed to open source the model. And that time Jobs looked cancer thin? He had actually just gotten back from a two week stint in Devil's Slough after a botched termination turned into a Most Dangerous Game where the hunter became the hunted.

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    1. Re:Another Apple Trick by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's quite a bit of imagination. But thanks I lol'ed.

    2. Re:Another Apple Trick by elrous0 · · Score: 1, Flamebait

      This is an absurd scenario. Jobs doesn't need to kill anyone. He learned long ago that his fanatical followers will happily kill *themselves* at the slightest hint of his displeasure.

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    3. Re:Another Apple Trick by confused+one · · Score: 1

      Buh... WHAT?

    4. Re:Another Apple Trick by elrous0 · · Score: 1, Funny

      Flamebait mods? Cult members are nothing if not humorless.

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    5. Re:Another Apple Trick by JonJ · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      C'mon, this isn't even humor. I could understand if it was actually funny, but this is just a sad attempt at humor.

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    6. Re:Another Apple Trick by trapnest · · Score: 1

      Why are these posts getting modded down? They're funny.

    7. Re:Another Apple Trick by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Perhaps you just haven't heard.

      Just google Foxconn and Apple.

    8. Re:Another Apple Trick by FlyingBishop · · Score: 1

      See, now that post was flamebait, and it's modded troll. People these days. I could understand a troll mod for the OP, but really... if you thought that was a serious attack on anyone, and worthy of a scathing flame reply... I think you should seek professional help. You have a serious problem.

    9. Re:Another Apple Trick by tibman · · Score: 1

      Is that copy pasta? Because that was good : )

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    10. Re:Another Apple Trick by cayenne8 · · Score: 1
      "...and holds the gun sideways to look badass."

      Ok, does anyone know why these idiot gang members always hold their pistols sideways?? I mean, no wonder they have to spray entire clips when they shoot since they can't possibly aim a damned gun...

      That just always puzzled me. That and why the hell criminals like them, who often have a need to RUN from the law, wear baggy oversized pants that drop down to their knees when they try to run off, impeding their speed and agility (having to hold them up with one hand while running)??

      I know that no one said criminals, especially gangbangers had to be especially bright, but, c'mon.

      Nice rant of yours by the way...very funny and imaginative.

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    11. Re:Another Apple Trick by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because they're not all prim and proper and don't do shit the right way. Because that's what's cool. I wish I was joking. That's the reason. That entire cultural phenomenon is dragging us all down with it into a pit of ignorance and debasement of all that is good and decent.

    12. Re:Another Apple Trick by Mongoose+Disciple · · Score: 1

      Ok, does anyone know why these idiot gang members always hold their pistols sideways??

      I forget exactly what I'd heard, but it was something about the recoil and the kind of shooting they were doing. Maybe you want the gun to kick a different way during a drive-by, I have no idea.

    13. Re:Another Apple Trick by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Apparently, according to an unsourced article I read somewhere, it is because filmmakers had action strs do this so for tight shots the actors face would not be obscured by the sights. Gang memebers started doing it becuase thats how they did it in the movies, and to look "cool"

    14. Re:Another Apple Trick by ckaminski · · Score: 1

      It's about not getting shells inside the car when they're ejected - held horizontally, the shells would tend to fly over the car roof.

  4. More like applie by Tobor+the+Eighth+Man · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's worth noting that if Apple were a smaller company, this sort of behavior would (or should, you can always find more shills) get doors slammed in its face at media outlets pretty fast. There's two reasons why it doesn't: 1. They're probably well-connected enough that they could always find someone else to leak their supposed "info," either through naievete or just apathy, and 2. They're so big that exclusive Apple news is a big plus, even if it turns out to be false or misleading.

    1. Re:More like applie by Tobor+the+Eighth+Man · · Score: 1

      And by smaller company, I mean a much smaller company. Obviously, any fairly substantial corporation can get away with the same thing (and does).

    2. Re:More like applie by hitmark · · Score: 1

      and 3. most media houses are big apple shops anyways. Apple has been big in this area ever since they release the apple printer that matched the screen rez, and became even more entrenched thanks to adobe photoshop (first time i actually bumped into a mac was in the local newspapers photo office).

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    3. Re:More like applie by Cronock · · Score: 1

      You forgot that they're a huge leader in their field and there is a very large market for the information by itself. Competitors develop products just over a rumor Apple is making something new and exciting. Apple early adopters start putting away cash for this new product, and people post all over the internet about how bad of an idea rumored iProduct will be, or what features they'd like to see.

    4. Re:More like applie by Darkness404 · · Score: 1

      Exactly. Engadget, Gizmodo, and the rest of the Apple-centered gadget blogs get a big boost if they can get the latest leak, even if it is nothing more than an ad for Apple.

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    5. Re:More like applie by binarylarry · · Score: 4, Funny

      It's great how much bigger companies do this, here's a transcript I recorded recently:

      for(;;) {
      Informant Exec: So online mag, this is totally off the record, but we're thinking about cloning something Apple is doing.
      Online Mag: O RLY?
      Informant Exec: Yeah, it's going to totally fucking kill Apple.
      Online Mag: Wow, that sounds amazing, what is is?
      Informant Exec: It's kind of like the iPhone only much more innovative
      Online Mag: Sounds like it's really going to change the market, any other projects you're working on?
      Information Exec: Yeah, we're also talking about cloning some stuff Google is doing.
      Online Mag: O RLY?
      Informant Exec: Yeah, it's going to totally fucking kill Google.
      Online Mag: Wow, that sounds amazing, what is is?
      Informant Exec: It's kind of like Google search only much more innovative
      Online Mag: Sounds like it's really going to change the market, any other projects you're working on?
      }

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    6. Re:More like applie by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Yeah, and that's how it works. They go to these sites and give a little taster and then as soon as its leaked, they get their dogs out and tell the rest of the news outlets that "XYZ BLOG IS WRONG WE ARE NOT BLAH BLAH BLAH", when in fact, if it were false, Apple would not comment at all.

      Why do I know this? I had it happen to me where I was the source of a posting that caused a half billion dollar spike in their stock (ok...maybe exagerating) and a thousand dollar hosting bill (which was mysteriously paid for by a benefactor after the fact).

      Well timed conversation, no note of NDA (which never happens with Apple or other big companies), enough information and the whole speech of We Can't Stop You From Publishing This, But We'd Hope You Don't (i.e., they push and push to the point where you KNOW you almost have to...the first few times I had things like this, I didn't publish the info...why? Because I said I wouldn't...wow! Ethics suck...it was only after being prodded with hints of the fact that they maybe talking out of both sides of their mouth and may actually need to talk to someone a little less ethical that might want the traffic that I got the clue).

      Apple knows what they are doing in this regard. I've been around with senior officials for a few big deals...these days, I've been asked simply what my opinion would be and the take on the publics reaction outside of the fanboy RDF (I love the company, but I'm critical when I think they cock up...which they do like anyone else, I just think they do it in a better way!) And these days, the ethics worked out because I'm giving information they know isn't going to be leaked and unless given the signal, it ain't going anywhere (which could have really helped my income if I would have just thrown some money a few months ago at the stock...luckily, the market has already adjusted and people pretty much know whats coming out, even if they don't have a fucking clue). I make a little off my recommendations and get to play with nice toys...and have never signed an NDA to this date with the company.

      The only time this has worked negatively was when I made a sarcastic comment that was obviously over the top, and some wonk at the WSJ had kept me in his twitterbookspace feed and posted something about ANOTHER company that was just wrong and it dropped 2% of its value (trust me, this was a lot). I've never seen a C&D for a joke before (one that even humorless lawyers knew was a joke). My lawyer told them to fuck off in otherwords and we delayed things long enough to not have to do a damn thing.

      So yeah, Apple is by far the best in this world...Microsoft just sucks in this regard...I won't even get into how bad their efforts have been...its almost like an epic fail "Please post this press release exactly as we stated, in which case if you do, we will sue you, but don't worry because we really won't but we might, just to make an example of you, but you won't know, but we really like you, we really do....but seriously, don't fuck with me boy I'm watching you).

    7. Re:More like applie by dangitman · · Score: 1

      and 3. most media houses are big apple shops anyways. Apple has been big in this area ever since they release the apple printer that matched the screen rez, and became even more entrenched thanks to adobe photoshop

      Riiiight. Because the media is run by the designers, printers, and technical staff. Writers and editors take their orders from some Quark/Indesign/Photoshop monkey.

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    8. Re:More like applie by BlackSnake112 · · Score: 1

      Remember Apple computers were for artists to use. Even Steve jobs has said that. Last I checked there were a lot of 'artistic' people working in print. Back in the 80's early 90s Apple computer were the ones to use for such tasks. So yes, Apple had a huge in with those type of companies.

    9. Re:More like applie by dangitman · · Score: 1

      Remember Apple computers were for artists to use. Even Steve jobs has said that. Last I checked there were a lot of 'artistic' people working in print.

      No shit. Having worked in print design, I'm well aware of this.

      So yes, Apple had a huge in with those type of companies.

      That's an absurd leap of logic. It's like saying the broom and mop industry has a huge 'in' with publishers, because they all employ janitors. The design, layout and print people have approximately zero influence on the journalists and editorial staff. It's people like Rupert Murdoch who influence them, not some layout guy.

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    10. Re:More like applie by quadelirus · · Score: 1

      Wait, why, exactly, would giving tips to the media unofficially and generating traffic to rumor sites and news stories "get doors slammed in its face at media outlets pretty fast."

      It seems that it doesn't really matter the size of the company--if there is a juicy rumor that will increase readership and therefore ad revenue, the media will take it. How does apple's size matter? It seems like what really matters is that apple has things to leak that people want to read in blogs/articles/etc. That is all that matters to the media. No way a door will be shut in someones face for something like that.

    11. Re:More like applie by hitmark · · Score: 1

      maybe not, but even they may be doing their work on a mac, or started working on a mac back when they first learned the trade.

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    12. Re:More like applie by Uberbah · · Score: 1

      It's worth noting that if Apple were a smaller company, this sort of behavior would (or should, you can always find more shills) get doors slammed in its face at media outlets pretty fast.

      You must not read Glenn Greenwald. Our media doesn't give a shit about proper journalism, it cares about "access" so it can get the scoop and be a part of the "Kool Kids Club". If any reporter did what you suggest upon being offered an Apple exclusive, their editor would fire them on the spot.

  5. Is this before or after... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    you purchased more Apple stock?

  6. I wish I knew the trusted friend by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    When the rumors started, I looked at the options chains for AAPL and saw that there was a large call to put ration meaning that the market was very bullish on AAPL - it also means that some folks are in fact trading on these "rumors" and making a few bucks on it.

    Illegal? I think so. But, I'd be hearing it from a friend of an insider of an executive - I'd like to see the Government prove it. Besides, it's not like I'm Martha Stewart or someone else that's high profile where the Government makes an example of to scare the rest of us from doing it.

    1. Re:I wish I knew the trusted friend by larry+bagina · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Insider trading is illegal but it's not clearly defined. Mark Cuban recently won a case where he was accused of insider trading. Martha Stewart is an interesting example because she was prosecuted for obstruction of justice and lying to investigators, not for insider trading. The coverup is far worse than the crime, especially when there might not have even been a crime in the first place.

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    2. Re:I wish I knew the trusted friend by BobMcD · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The coverup is far worse than the crime, especially when there might not have even been a crime in the first place.

      Ergo, Bill Clinton almost-impeachment. It isn't necessarily illegal for the President to have sex with an intern in the Oval Office. It might have been sexual harassment, and an investigation was tenuously warranted, but lying to the investigators is certainly illegal.

      Unlike Martha, however, Bill got basically zero in terms of actual punishment for his crime.

    3. Re:I wish I knew the trusted friend by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 1

      Sorry, ol' Bill was impeached, actually... He just wasn't convicted.

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    4. Re:I wish I knew the trusted friend by TheRealMindChild · · Score: 1

      When the rumors started, I looked at the options chains for AAPL and saw that there was a large call to put ration meaning that the market was very bullish on AAPL - it also means that some folks are in fact trading on these "rumors" and making a few bucks on it.

      If the word "trading" wasn't in there, I'd have thought you were just speaking some British/Australian slang descibing your night out drinking.

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    5. Re:I wish I knew the trusted friend by DJRumpy · · Score: 1

      Actually he was convicted of 1 of the three counts of impeachment but later acquitted by the Senate. He left office with the highest rating of any president since World War 2.

    6. Re:I wish I knew the trusted friend by Kreigaffe · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Which is dropping, and will continue to drop, and more and more people realize what bullshit he signed into law. DMCA, we all love that and love Bill for that, right? NAFTA's been working out great hasn't it? How about shutting down our research on Integral Fast Reactors? That's some future tech shit right there, and it's not like our nuclear tech was lagging behind the rest of the world already thanks to NIMBY-ism, but hey too bad now. GE's got some reactors based on that they're designing/building that should be able to drop right in to a coal plant with just some rerouted pipes and a new control room -- they're eying up China, not America. Ohh, and don't forget the Brady Bill, which did not do anything for crime -- crime rates were lower before, and after, that bill's run.

      He also signed that awesome internet decency thing that was destroyed by the SCOTUS pretty quick, a telecom reform act that opened the door for ClearChannel to make you not care to ever listen to the radio again, a Marriage Defense bill that allowed states to forbid same-sex marriages and also defined "marriage", federally, as between a man and a woman.. hey that's cool, right?

      Bang-up job, Bill, bang-up job! Pretty much EVERYTHING that man did in office is distasteful to.. well the entire /. mindthink. The man is charismatic, though, to the point where people love him enough to forget all the bad things he's done.

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    7. Re:I wish I knew the trusted friend by GrahamCox · · Score: 2

      It isn't necessarily illegal for the President to have sex with an intern in the Oval Office. It might have been sexual harassment, and an investigation was tenuously warranted, but lying to the investigators is certainly illegal.
      This is still something most outside the US can't understand - what was the big deal? For those who get into a righteous froth about ol' Bill, you only need to go and read up on the Nixon administration. The words "ethics" and "morality" simply were not in their dictionary. Nixon did permanent harm to the office of the President which is has never recovered from - pretty much all modern cynicism about 'The Man' can be traced to that administration. Bill and his cigar fetish pale into insignificance beside it.

  7. everyone does it by alen · · Score: 2, Insightful

    did you really think all those dumb unboxing youtube videos of the Pre and other cell phones where they don't show anything weren't official marketing? if it really was someone who stole a copy then they would show off every feature on the internet so all the internet peoplez would think they are cool

    1. Re:everyone does it by Darkness404 · · Score: 1

      Most of the time the way that an unboxing video can make it to YouTube is that some retailers sell things in advance. I mean, Harry Potter, which everyone -knew- the release date and had it printed on all the boxes still made it out to store shelves early. How much more likely is it that some Wal-Mart in the middle of nowhere gets a box of shiny gadgets and decides to put them on sale?

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  8. Stocks? by retech · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'd love to see some data about company insiders and their stock purchasing/selling in relation to the "leaks". There are a few people making a shitload of $$$ off of the leaks. And if they are not then I'd be shocked. The last WSJ "leak" shot appl stock way up and my first thought was: someone is having a nice Christmas bonus.

    1. Re:Stocks? by Rude+Turnip · · Score: 2, Informative

      As long as leaks and product releases are timed with trading blackout periods (usually tied with quarterly earnings reports), there shouldn't be a problem since an insider wouldn't be allowed to buy or sell stock in the first place.

    2. Re:Stocks? by je+ne+sais+quoi · · Score: 2, Informative

      Insider trades are in the public domain. Yahoo stocks has a nice list. According to them, the last trade by an insider was December 2nd, 2009. I wouldn't know how these things go down, but my guess is that's too early to be able to easily pin as illegal behavior without some direct evidence. Also, I'd guess that a lot of the big shots are in it for the long haul and aren't interested in gaming their own stock (I could surely be wrong if the iSlate turns out to be a dud and there's a whole bunch of insider trades before the 27th). I would hope that the SEC would look pretty hard at the trades of reporters who report on stocks in addition to the insiders though.

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    3. Re:Stocks? by Cliffy03 · · Score: 1

      I would hope someone keeps track of this. And I wonder how an ex-exec could even say something like this unless it too is a "leak". I remember hearing Leo Laporte talk about his suspicions of the WSJ being an official leak.

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    4. Re:Stocks? by swb · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You do know that insiders only trade on their own account when they have to unload stock options or for other PR reasons.

      They make real their money on inside trades through proxies and third parties.

    5. Re:Stocks? by Rich0 · · Score: 1

      An insider is anybody with material information about a company that isn't public. Sure, the people on those lists are certainly insiders, but they're not ALL insiders.

      If I whisper to a friend that my employer is announcing a new widget next Tuesday, my friend is now an insider. Granted, it is VERY hard to spot this kind of stuff, but that doesn't make it any less illegal.

      The whole concept of a stock market is that everybody has access to the same information. When one group of people has access to information that others do not, it undermines the entire institution, as nobody wants to trust somebody selling them stock, or offering to buy it. Are they doing it because they know something that you don't?

      I wonder if this sort of thing could be fixed by making stock prices less granular. Have everybody publicly post bids/asks all week, and then over the weekend the price is set to maximize volume and everything gets executed. That makes price far less susceptible to the speed at which information is disseminated. You could also avoid last-minute order rushing to keep trades secret by having a rule that the total volume during any hour on Friday will be no more than 1/32nd that of the Mon-Thurs total, and trades on Fri will be first-come-first-serve. So, if you wait you might not get your trade in.

    6. Re:Stocks? by Darth · · Score: 1

      all of the company officers and board of directors members have to publish the schedule of their stock transactions that relate to the company with the SEC. It should be trivial to find patterns like that, if they exist.

      I would say that i think it is extremely unlikely that kind of insider trading is happening due to how incredibly obvious it would be to regulators, but after the quality work the SEC did in catching Madoff i'm inclined to think you could include a line item called "insider trading profits" on your filings and they still wouldn't catch you.

      but i would be surprised if someone were making a shitload of money off insider trading around the leaks. it's just too obvious and risky to be worth it.

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  9. Controlled Leaks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    "...Senior Marketing Manager at Apple and I was instructed to do some controlled leaks".

    Let me be the first to say that anytime you boss wants you to do something "off the record", you need to start doing 1 or all of 3 things:

    1. recording massive amounts of evidence(when did he ask you, how, what time, save emails offsite) for your own benefit
    2. get an authorization document on company letterhead signed by him
    3. refuse to do it.

    They are setting you up my friend. You've probably broken some type of law already and don't even know it. I can't wait to hear their ass-covering testimony. "I never authorized him to do that. Yes your honor, I did speak with him on 1/6/2010 about the new tablet computer. I said I would like him to discuss the new changes to the device with his colleagues at work. Never at any time did I mention it was OK to discuss a confidential hardware/software design with the MEDIA!!!

    1. Re:Controlled Leaks by joeyblades · · Score: 2, Informative

      I think you missed the point.
      The Apple guy doesn't leak to the media, the Apple guy consults with a partner. The partner leaks to the media. The partner will likely have a special non-disclosure agreement that will cover his ass in the event that all goes south. It's all well orchestrated, undocumented, and not illegal.

  10. I will need some help with this. by starbugs · · Score: 5, Funny

    All we need to do is create a leak for a fictional (but desirable) product. Slowly release blurry mock-ups and specs. Start a few rumors here and there. Then (as long as everyone stays positive) we let Apple deal with the actual implementation.

    I'm awaiting my DRM-free ireader. (Apple, you can do it so much better)

    1. Re:I will need some help with this. by Darkness404 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The problem is, there are some things Apple simply won't do. For one, they want to release gadgets in generations. Just look at the iPod, first it was a black and white screen, then it was a color screen, then it could play videos then it had a touch screen, etc. If Apple doesn't see any way to easily upgrade a device, they won't make it. Unlike most "geek centered" devices, Apple's gadgets usually are lower-speced than their competitors but bring polish to the market. Look at the iPod, it wasn't exactly the largest media player at the time, nor did it have the most specs.

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    2. Re:I will need some help with this. by Cwix · · Score: 1

      apple and DRM-free?

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    3. Re:I will need some help with this. by starbugs · · Score: 1

      Ever since about 2007.

    4. Re:I will need some help with this. by peragrin · · Score: 4, Interesting

      That's because apple wants to release good products at launch time. Sure you can use the latest screen technology hut it doubles the cost comes with unstable drivers and if you sneeze at it cracks. Apple sells the whole widget. Having an easily scratched screen material is just as bad as buggy software.

      Most people don't realize that hardware and material science is a major part of product design. Bringing a final product to market is about trade offs.
      There havebeen touch screens and tablets for years upon years. But until recently the hardware and software haventbeen ready for mass deployments. Just look at Microsoft. Is windows tablet edition a good piece of tablet software? Ithas all the pieces but they haven't been assembled properly yet. The need for convertible tablets is why. Msft is trying to shove a mouse and keyboard based desktop at tablet users. But that isn't how tablet need to work. They need their own UI

      just having the ingredents doesn't mean you can bake cake.

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    5. Re:I will need some help with this. by dangitman · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Look at the iPod, it wasn't exactly the largest media player at the time, nor did it have the most specs.

      In portable music players, largest is not best. The iPod succeeded because it was the smallest hard-drive based player on the market. As far as specs go, you're wrong. It was the most advanced product on the market. It had Firewire for transferring music, while everybody else had USB 1. It had a nice screen and menu navigation system, while everybody else had clunky controls like a portable CD player, and very limited LCD displays.

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    6. Re:I will need some help with this. by nine-times · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I think you're on to something, but the reasons are a little more complicated than, "they want to release gadgets in generations".

      First is the fact that their development method is just different from a lot of other companies. Most companies take an idea an idea like a portable MP3 player and say, "Lets put every feature we can into this thing for launch. I want it to have a radio, and have it play lots of games, and maybe have a built-in toaster oven!" So they make a list of features and put them all into a prototype. They polish the prototype until it kind of works, and then release that design as a product. In its first version, it only kind of works, but has lots of problems from having a lot of not-quite-ready features crammed in. They try to fix these problems in the next version.

      In contrast, if Apple sets out to design an mp3 player, then there's a decent chance that the product will only have 1 major feature: playing mp3s. Instead of making the first version have loads of features, they'll spend their development time making sure that using the product as an mp3 player is easy, intuitive, and works very well. They'll add features over the next few versions, but they'll do so relatively slowly because each time, they're making sure the new features are integrated well into the existing design.

      Those are two different design philosophies which bring different results. In the first way of doing things, you start with a more feature-rich product, but in the second way you start with a more polished product.

      Beyond that, there's something else going on in Apple's marketing that is pretty obvious once you notice it, but a lot of people don't notice it. Most tech manufacturers are constantly trying to introduce new products and drive down the price. When Apple introduces a new product, they tend to keep the price stable for a very long time. Watch iPod prices or Macbook prices, and you'll notice that the price very rarely goes down. As new technology comes out, Apple keeps upgrading the product to be smaller, lighter, or more feature rich in order to justify the current price, but they don't really drop the price.

      It's worth understanding that the price points are often chosen by marketing, and then a product is designed to fit that price. I believe the first iPod was $400, and right now that's also the price of the most expensive iPod. There's a reason for this. It's not that Apple couldn't create a really snazzy $700 iPod, but that if they did, Jobs would probably say, "Let's put that on ice until we can make it cheaper." Ultimately, they don't want to release a $700 iPod and then two years later sell the same iPod for $400. Along with everything else, that creates the impression of a product whose value is dropping. They'd much rather sell a crappy $400 iPod this year and then two years later sell you the super-snazzy iPod for $400, so that you have the impression of a product which preserves its value by continually improving.

    7. Re:I will need some help with this. by Kreigaffe · · Score: 1

      Good products... you mean, good for starting pantsfires?

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    8. Re:I will need some help with this. by Brandee07 · · Score: 0

      Are you kidding? It had no WiFi and less space than a Nomad. Totally lame.

    9. Re:I will need some help with this. by peragrin · · Score: 1

      less so than dell or sony.

      both of which had multiple high profile laptop burns, but only a couple of one for mac.

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    10. Re:I will need some help with this. by initialE · · Score: 1

      The price does go down, it's just not generally well known. http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/specialdeals - great deals (?) on "refurbished" products. Which you know is just old stock they didn't clear last christmas.

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    11. Re:I will need some help with this. by ernst_mulder · · Score: 1

      The differences in product design (packaging in this case) are nicely spelled out in this little parody :-)

      http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=36099539665548298#

  11. The reasons by Sockatume · · Score: 4, Interesting

    For those who don't feel like actually reading the article, here're the specific reasons given for the tablet leaks:

    * to light a fire under a recalcitrant partner
    * to float the idea of the US$1,000 price point and gauge reaction
    * to panic/confuse a potential competitor about whom Apple had some knowledge
    * to whet analyst and observer expectations to make sure the right kind and number of people show up at the (presumed) January 26 event. Apple hates empty seats and demands SRO at these events.

    I'm especially curious about the first and the third. Who is the competitor? The Google/Alex Reader partnership? The rumoured Chrome OS tablet? And who is the partner, a content provider or an OEM? Were they concerned that there wasn't enough interest in the device to guarantee volume, or was it something else?

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    1. Re:The reasons by yakumo.unr · · Score: 4, Informative

      There's talk of Microsoft slate tablet kicking about now too : http://www.neowin.net/news/live/10/01/06/microsoft-set-to-unveil-slate-tablet-pc-at-ces

    2. Re:The reasons by elrous0 · · Score: 1

      The tablet is sort of like AppleTV in that it ends up begging the question "Just who exactly is this aimed at?" With netbooks, smartphones, etc. on the low end and full-blown laptops on the high end, I just can't picture a big market for a $1000 tablet PC. Who is going to pay $1000 for an underpowered laptop just because it has a touchscreen? Unless they have some more surprises up their sleeve, I just can't picture the market for this thing.

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    3. Re:The reasons by snowwrestler · · Score: 2, Interesting

      In the case of today, I would guess:

      the competitor is Microsoft

      and

      the partners are Verizon (more) and TV networks (for content)

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    4. Re:The reasons by BobMcD · · Score: 1

      The tablet is sort of like AppleTV in that it ends up begging the question "Just who exactly is this aimed at?" With netbooks, smartphones, etc. on the low end and full-blown laptops on the high end, I just can't picture a big market for a $1000 tablet PC. Who is going to pay $1000 for an underpowered laptop just because it has a touchscreen? Unless they have some more surprises up their sleeve, I just can't picture the market for this thing.

      There's a portion of consumers that don't worry too much about the price. There are a variety of reasons for this:

      A) They're relatively affluent and wouldn't likely buy a 'bargain' device
      B) They believe they actually save money, through superior return on investment
      C) They believe the product is a status symbol

      E.g. the $800 iPhone. Comparable devices at that time were around $500. People bought all each of the units made, and iPhones were scarce, back then.

      While I don't personally know any of these people, and cannot myself prove they exist, they would be your 'who' as far as I can tell.

      When you are a relatively minor player in a market, like Apple, limited demand for a product actually helps you. You can ride the line of 'sold out' demand without poisoning your image for future products.

    5. Re:The reasons by tirerim · · Score: 2, Informative

      Those were listed as possible reasons for the tablet leaks. The article was written by a former Apple employee, so he knows how these things commonly work, but he doesn't know specifics in this case—it could be just one of those reasons, or several.

    6. Re:The reasons by The+Cisco+Kid · · Score: 1

      You left out the 'could have been' part. None of these were stated as being the reasons for certain.

    7. Re:The reasons by Sockatume · · Score: 1

      Important caveat, yes. I misread that part.

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    8. Re:The reasons by Tak_1 · · Score: 1

      The first iPhone was $600, not $800. Why is any Apple device automatically inflated in price 1/4 in any given forum discussion? I know. I had one. And yes it was overpriced. I have a 3Gs now, and at $200 its a decent phone, I like it a lot. But I'm still not sure why I spent that much on the original one though. It wasn't status, it was just a great user experience. You picked it up and played with it and in ten minutes you wanted one yourself. These are the people the tablet will sell to. I have a Macbook Pro and I can't imagine a use for the tablet. But then again. I'm not the Billionaire CEO. I still buy Apple products. I just had to get over my urge to pay the "early adopter" tax. Some people never do, and the rest of us need to thank them. they drive the price down for the rest of us.

    9. Re:The reasons by nine-times · · Score: 1

      Well for one thing, there's a rumor that the screen will be sort of a hybrid LCD/e-paper screen, and another rumor that it will have a built-in modem for mobile broadband. It may be less of a low-end laptop and more of a super high-end Kindle.

      But then some rumors seem to indicate that it might be a somewhat new class of device. There's been talk about the input interaction being unlike things that we've seen before, the possibility of docking stations, and other weird stuff. It's really hard to tell at this point, since it's all speculation.

    10. Re:The reasons by Swift2001 · · Score: 1

      This is Microsoft's pattern. The iPhone was about to be announced. It had touch control. So that weekend, Microsoft announces the Microsoft Table for Business, or whatever they call it. It's always something. This would be the... fourth (?) tablet that Microsoft has done. Three were total failures. Howsabout trying for 4?

  12. Ethics by kenp2002 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Ethics (n): The 'optional' set of rules companies occasionally engage when it is a benefit to the company but publically declaire they use at all times.

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    1. Re:Ethics by Sockatume · · Score: 3, Insightful

      For any publicly-trade company, acting to benefit the company is actually one of the fundimental ethical principles. If you act in a way that drops the company's stock price you're essentially shredding other people's money. Sneaky but harmless media-baiting to improve a product's chance of success is the right ethical choice in that framework. It's not ethical from the journalistic perspective, of course.

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    2. Re:Ethics by A.+B3ttik · · Score: 2, Interesting

      What makes you think this is unethical? They're not lying or even doing things underhanded. They're just spreading information in an unusual way.

      Note that as a fellow Galt Follower, I am interested in your response.

    3. Re:Ethics by BobMcD · · Score: 1

      s/companies/humans/g

    4. Re:Ethics by ari_j · · Score: 1

      Taking advantage of others' unethical behavior for your own benefit - ethical or not? Discuss.

    5. Re:Ethics by Sockatume · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Precisely! From our outside ethical perspective, is the net total of the benefit to Apple's shareholders plus the penalty to media integrity greater than zero? Apple's stock price went up three cents around the leak, is that the price of journalistic integrity?

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    6. Re:Ethics by ekimminau · · Score: 2, Insightful

      This is no such thing as "business ethics". There is only "ethics".

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    7. Re:Ethics by InsurrctionConsltant · · Score: 1

      I wish I had mod points. This is a spot-on refutation of the grand parent’s comically myopic view of what’s “ethical”

    8. Re:Ethics by Arthur+Grumbine · · Score: 1

      Apple's stock price went up three cents around the leak, is that the price of journalistic integrity?

      Considering the current state of journalistic integrity I'd say we're definitely looking at a net gain as a society. Seriously, though, do you really think that Apple orchestrating controlled leaks really has any measurable impact on journalistic integrity?! Even the net effect of every major technology player orchestrating controlled leaks seems barely a blip on the "subversion of journalistic integrity" radar. Now if all these players were involved in behind-the-scenes bidding wars over whose "leaks" would get the most attention/stories, with the media outlets profiting by it, that would be (is?) an actually significant threat.

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    9. Re:Ethics by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 1

      For any publicly-trade company, acting to benefit the company is actually one of the fundimental ethical principles.

      Only when it does not violate other ethical principles.

      Since this is Slashdot, let me do a car analogy for ya. If you get $100 to deliver a certain package ASAP, it is certainly ethical for you to drive as fast as legally allowed, and safe considering your skills and external conditions (and would be unethical to not do your best). But there is no ethical obligation to run red lights to deliver it even faster.

      That said, I'm not at all sure "controlled leaks" are unethical in the first place. Who is harmed by them?

    10. Re:Ethics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you act in a way that drops the company's stock price you're essentially shredding other people's money.

      True, but only if all-else is equal. And it often isn't.

      Companies will optimize for the short-term stock gain at the expense of the actual investment in the company itself. Eventually trying to keep up the form of never-decreasing stock prices undermines the substance of the worth of a company's tangible assets, intangible ones, and future potential. (One might consider "trustworthiness" an asset in some companies.)

      Preserving the short-term stock-price is secondary to keeping the company healthy. Otherwise it isn't industry and creating value, it's become a popularity contest.
      (Captcha: "labors". Heh.)

    11. Re:Ethics by SerpensV · · Score: 1

      From the journalistic perspective it's "ethic" if people will read it.

    12. Re:Ethics by kenp2002 · · Score: 1

      s/companies/humans/g

      s/ethics/morals/g

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    13. Re:Ethics by kenp2002 · · Score: 1

      I offer this:

      In a corporate press release you state that your new product will launch on time and will be 15% cheaper then originally planned. Stocks go up.

      In a corporate press release you state that your new product will launch late and will be 15% more expensive then originally planned. Stocks go down.

      Information by a corporation, and information release by corporate officers is supposed to be accurate. By using leaks they are by passing basic accountability standards. Now:

      In a leak you state that your new product will launch on time and will be 15% cheaper then originally planned. Stocks go up.

      In a leak you state that your new product will launch late and will be 15% more expensive then originally planned. Stocks go down.

      Lets assume, for the sake of argument that regardless of which leak you use it turns out that is was fabricated intentionally. Who is accountable? What audit applies to "official leaks?" Who is held accountable for the fabricated leak? As a shareholder I expect information that could be positive or detrimental to be vetted.

      More importantly whomever gets the 'leak' initially has insider information on the company's activities. Imagine getting a leak that the i Tablet is getting canceled. That kind of behavior is getting very close to disclosing insider information to specific people (the leak's recipient) that the general public would not get. There are no checks or balances, the recipient could sit on the leak for 48 hours and broker insider information to others before publishing. An officer of the company requesting a leak is bad, real bad, and disclosing company confidential information to a select few is too close to insider trading that I as a shareholder am comfortable with.

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  13. How anyone orchestrates leaks by snowwrestler · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I work in politics and government and to give Apple much credit for this is sort of laughable. Let's just say that if they tried to patent it, there would be plenty of prior art.

    Some people will look at this and think "that's why Apple is so successful at building buzz." It's only partly true. Every company leaks, but not every company gets a NY Times story and 100 blog echoes. The leaks work so well because Apple is a hot, popular company. They don't, by themselves, make Apple a hot, popular company.

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    1. Re:How anyone orchestrates leaks by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The leaks work so well because Apple is a hot, popular company. They don't, by themselves, make Apple a hot, popular company.

      Actually, I think it is a chicken/egg issue. At this point, the kind of leaking that happens is partly responsible for building the chic, hot, popular. People generally want to be in the "in crowd", and Part of the whole "leak" mentality is build momentum before a product is released.

      The leaks accomplish this "in-crowd" mentality, especially when it is accompanied by pictures of people waiting in line at the local Apple store for days, for the latest coolness a few months later when said coolness is released.

      Apple has MASTERED this like no other company. Nobody waits in line for the lastest "Dell" or "HP". Why? Because they aren't "cool", and all of the products they release are in fact part of the YAD (yet another device).

      Other companies get this kind of response once, or twice a decade. Apple achieves this on a regular and consistant basis.

      Apple is cool, because people think it is. People think it is cool, because on a regular basis, they release things that people want because Apple is cool.

      It is cool to be Apple.

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    2. Re:How anyone orchestrates leaks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      mostly I agree. but this theory doesn't explain perhaps the biggest iMystery of all: How has Apple consistently managed to capture and hold the hearts and minds of the most annoying people, even during the many years where they were not cool at all?

      In the beginning, when Apple was a company run by nerds that made stuff for other nerds, they pulled the most obnoxious nerds to the flock. Then during the early Mac days when they catered to the art-nerd types, they again attracted throngs consisting mainly of blathering, ill-informed fans. And now, in the "Mac is cool" era, they've built a fan boi army the likes of which few dare to challenge.. and my god they are annoying.

      What is the Apple secret??

    3. Re:How anyone orchestrates leaks by randomaxe · · Score: 1

      I'll agree with the largely cyclical nature of Apple's setup, but there is -- and always must be -- an entry point. I did not buy my first iPod because Apple is cool. I bought my first iPod because it was a hard drive-based portable media player, and nobody else was doing that. It was everything I wanted in a PMP at the time.

      While it's true that many people may want what Apple produces because Apple is cool, something had to happen to make Apple cool. And making something you already do easier or more fun is the fastest and most direct route to coolness.

    4. Re:How anyone orchestrates leaks by eclectic4 · · Score: 1

      Could it possibly have nothing to do with what Apple offers? I'm not so sure that is correct... how has Apple remained part of the "in-crowd" wants for so long? What's "in" is naturally what's "out" tomorrow. It's how it works. I think that Apple's offerings, the product only being a part (good support for the ENTIRE product being another), has much more to do with it.

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  14. Controlled leaks? by Elbart · · Score: 0

    Is that Cupertinian for press release?

  15. Have they not heard of tape recorders? by IBBoard · · Score: 1

    'We need to release this specific information. John, do you have a trusted friend at a major outlet? If so, call him/her and have a conversation. Idly mention this information and suggest that if it were published, that would be nice. No e-mails!'

    Surely they need to know exactly what was told to them and have proof, so have the reporters not heard of taping the conversation? "No emails" is obviously a "we don't want a paper trail (even if it is obvious)" thing, but even having the conversation directly in the first place leaves some kind of trail!

    1. Re:Have they not heard of tape recorders? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Posting Anon as I've already modded in this discussion: That's illegal (and highly unethical from a journalist's standpoint) without getting consent. And reporters don't want to burn bridges in any event. No legit reporter would break important rules for something as unimportant as tech gossip.

    2. Re:Have they not heard of tape recorders? by BobMcD · · Score: 2, Interesting

      In many places this sort of recording isn't legal. It is theoretically possible to attach some sort of consequences to breaking a confidence. It would be a different matter if you gave your permission to be recorded, were in a public place, etc, but if you specifically asked to have a private, off the record, conversation things get a little less black and white.

      A person may or may not face legal penalty for this kind of behavior, but you can be certain they would never get those kinds of tips again. Since tips generate stories and stories generate money, there isn't a great deal of incentive for outing a tipster.

    3. Re:Have they not heard of tape recorders? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Posting Anon as I've already modded in this discussion

      No you haven't.

    4. Re:Have they not heard of tape recorders? by IBBoard · · Score: 1

      If there isn't any incentive for outing a tipster then why worry about a paper trail? ;)

    5. Re:Have they not heard of tape recorders? by BobMcD · · Score: 1

      Because hard evidence, such as email, could be revealed by a third party who wouldn't suffer the consequences of the outing.

      Private verbal conversations, on the other hand, are deniable.

    6. Re:Have they not heard of tape recorders? by anethema · · Score: 1

      Unethical maybe, but unless the rules are different for reporters, many states, and all of canada operate in a 1-party recording law. It means that at least one person must know the call is being recorded.

      So you can record a call between you and someone, but you cannot secretly record a call between two people with you not being on the call.

      Some states do, though, have a 2-party recording law, which would make this illegal. I guess then it depends where the recording is taking place!

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  16. Exclusive news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    2. They're so big that exclusive Apple news is a big plus, even if it turns out to be false or misleading.

    Exclusive is another key. Because Apple manages and controls its leaks so closely, being chosen to receive leaked info can double your outlet's pageviews. So of course you play along.

    Whereas when a looser-run company, even one of similar size (say, Microsoft or HP) tries to leak something, every blogger and his mother had the same scoop a month ago.

  17. Marketing stunt. by Z00L00K · · Score: 1

    I'm not surprised - this is just a marketing stunt. Most leaks are.

    Have you ever wondered why car manufacturers do those maskings of test cars? It's the same thing - draw attention!

    Of course - the public opinion is to deny or contradict, but that's just a play to keep the interest up.

    If they wanted to be really secret then they would drop a lot of vapor regarding other things and other designs and draw away the attention from the real thing.

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  18. Re:More like Apple by dimeglio · · Score: 2, Interesting

    if Apple were a smaller company

    Sure, you are being rather hypothetical as Apple is in fact a huge company with innovative ideas. People do care what they'll come out with. So you don't make much of a point. Note that Google once was a small company. I first heard of them through an industry insider who said: "watch-out for this company called Google" in a web cast, "they have quite an interesting concept." Next thing you know, Altavista and Yahoo lost their leads as web search tools. Why did Google succeed? In my opinion, it was the reputation of their leaders as technical gurus and not traditional marketing types. The non obtrusiveness of their interface and their innovative monetization model also helped get them the lead.

    Apple has a to know their next product will be a hit. These leaks provide an outlet and a low risk method of measuring acceptance. If reaction is negative, they never admit the leak and the idea is postponed, otherwise, it might go ahead. Too bad Segway didn't do the same thing. They would have probably not have spent so much in a product which is interesting but honestly not that compelling.

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  19. SEC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Isn't it a requirement of all exchange-listed companies to issue a press release for pretty much anything they want to say?

    I'm pretty sure the SEC would be quite interested in this guy's story.

  20. Surprised? by Andrevan · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Is anyone really reading this and scratching their heads, saying, "Well gee, I thought it was a bunch of intrepid hackers who broke into the mainframe to steal the pix?" Of course Apple orchestrates their leaks and rumors. Even their litigious cease and desisting of Mac rumor sites is all part of cultivating their mystique. Even "non-evil" companies like Google pull shit like this. It's all part of the marketing game to build pre-release buzz for products.

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    1. Re:Surprised? by Delkster · · Score: 1

      Even "non-evil" companies like Google pull shit like this.

      Google hasn't been non-evil in a long time.

      Anyway, I suppose the difference is that most other companies, while sometimes purposefully leaking information, also often smell the air pretty publicly by actually making press releases about products they're planning.

      Apple, on the other hand, uses leaks almost exclusively.

  21. Controlled leak of controlled leaks by testdummy · · Score: 1

    Did apple control the leak about how they carefully control leaks?

  22. News?.... by vectorstream · · Score: 2, Insightful

    How's that any f@cking news to begin with?....If your leak looks like advertisement on the hush-hush it usually is. Disinformation campaign 101 - only its' not some spook agency , it's some corporate entity behind it. Apple has to do a lot more of this crap as so many of their sales are to consumers so the the whole FUD strategy has to be rehashed every quarter or so.

  23. More publicity by thetsguy · · Score: 2, Informative

    And we are increasing the publicity by discussing this.

  24. News just in.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Bears: Wanton woodland defeacation shock
    Pope: Catholic?

  25. A Public Service by DannyO152 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    By fleshing out an implementation, perhaps this pre-empts someone patenting "Controlled Leak, Product" (as opposed to nuclear power plant, hot air balloon, disinformation, tire, etc.)

  26. "Give the press some stories" by spaceyhackerlady · · Score: 1

    This is old stuff. I remember reading it in The Macintosh Way. Guy Kawasaki's thesis was that by making yourself a good source the press were less likely to burn you.

    ...laura

  27. What now? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Will they make him commit suicide like the Chinese guy? Or is this story another "controlled leak"?

  28. He describes only the first step by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The second step is to have a word with a friendly slashdot/digg/whatever poster to let them know about the article, but hey, don't let me stop you posting it there hint, hint.

  29. Nobody Cares by that+this+is+not+und · · Score: 0, Troll

    Really.

    Often, nobody really cares what's going on at Apple.

    "What?", irate resondents to this comment will say. "Everybody cares about what is happening at Apple!"

    Yes, there is a lot of simulated hype. Bushels and bushels of it. That's the primary product at Apple.

    Yes, I am posting this at Apple.slashdot.org so I expect a little flaming.

  30. Re:More like Apple by Tobor+the+Eighth+Man · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I think you're assuming I'm saying something good or bad about Apple in general, but in fact all I'm doing is observing that their media strategy would not work for most companies.

    Media is a business, and as much as the media likes to portray itself as gung ho and unconventional, you can't play rough unless you're so big (or so influential) that rejecting you is going to hurt them. Again, this is why Apple's size (and influence, more importantly) lets them get away with it.

    Most of the time, the business of news is run by pretty convention business etiquette. Just like a reporter can't repeatedly ambush sources and expect to keep getting interviews (unless they're hugely influential), a company can't constantly play hardball and expect to get coverage (again, unless they're very influential, like Apple is).

    Dodgy leaks and questionable denials may seem like a good business strategy, but try it as a more low-key player from a smaller company and see how far you get with your PR strategy.

  31. Unworkable. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    1. recording massive amounts of evidence(when did he ask you, how, what time, save emails offsite) for your own benefit

    And be immediately terminated for theft of company secret(s) (the e-mail bit)

    2. get an authorization document on company letterhead signed by him

    You know this is never going to happen, which is likely to lead to...

    3. refuse to do it.

    And be immediately terminated for refusal to follow order/insubordination.

    In summary, your proposed solutions are all VERY VERY bad ideas (tm)

    1. Re:Unworkable. by Asic+Eng · · Score: 1
      And be immediately terminated for refusal to follow order/insubordination.

      Look I'm sorry - but don't be such a wimp. Only the most psychopathic of bosses would lay off an effective employee because he refuses do engage in something shady like that. However if you have such a boss, then getting laid off is still better than facing trial some time down the road.

    2. Re:Unworkable. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Look I'm sorry - but don't be such a wimp. Only the most psychopathic of bosses would lay off an effective employee because he refuses do engage in something shady like that. However if you have such a boss, then getting laid off is still better than facing trial some time down the road.

      Even if you're not terminated on the spot, let's be honest here; refusal to follow order will just get you blackballed; from that point on your career options is limited within that company, possibly within that industry. This is assuming that boss isn't the vindictive type that will immediately start looking for excuses to fire you later for past or future "infractions" that are usually "overlooked."

    3. Re:Unworkable. by Asic+Eng · · Score: 1

      Well the "within the industry part" is nonsense, beyond that - yes the boss could be vindictive, but you are still better off unemployed than being sued for divulging trade secrets *and* employed.

  32. Faith by formfeed · · Score: 2, Funny

    Exactly: faith. And because of that you shouldn't criticize the Appleologists. If they think that walking around in black turtle necks holding up shiny white things while worshiping a Deity they call Steve, will bring sense and purpose to their existence, let them proceed. This way they at least don't bother the rest of us normal people or interfere in our quest to improve Linux, which He has given to us.

    1. Re:Faith by Swift2001 · · Score: 1

      Go ahead and criticize. Just don't make up some phony complaint and expect no argument.

  33. Refresh My Memory, Please by konohitowa · · Score: 1

    'nss' is the tag for 'No Shit, Sherlock!', right? Just want to make sure I tag this story correctly.

  34. Re:Apple Cool by Phrogman · · Score: 1

    You can only pull that off if your products are consistently of high quality, high reliability, and have a cutting edge design that sets the trend for the rest of the Industry. Apple consistently does these things from the innovative appearance of their products to the functionality of their OS.

    After many years of owning an endless stream of PCs running Windows (and often Linux in some form of course), I switched to an iMac a few years ago. I will never willingly go back, because the product is consistently that good. The OS is superior to any version of Windows (and in my opinion superior to Linux varieties I have tried, in its polish and cohesiveness, if not functionality (which Linux has in spades of course)). The Ipod is clearly the best and most userfriendly MP3 player out there - and the latest one adds in a camera, voice recorder, step counter and a horde of other nice functions that go well with the target audience. I have never used an iPhone but I had an Ipod Touch and was very impressed with it overall.
    As long as everyone else is playing catchup to Apple in the products they design and produce, and as long as Apple can continue to produce top quality products, Apple will continue to be consistently cool in the public's eyes. Yes, of course they have a very good marketing department and thats a large part of their success.

    Honestly, having tried Apples products, they deserve a lot of the kudos they receive. My iMac does everything I need it to do, including smoothly rebooting to XP when I want to play games. I have yet to have a single problem with it. When I compare that to the almost daily problems I have encountered with MS products, there really is no comparison. I use XP now only to play games - and that only because Microsoft has the games industry by the short and curlies. Microsoft produces toy operating systems for me now.

    If Apple produces a tablet, it will work right out of the box and be a consistently thought out design that offers innovation and performance. They will have done their research and tailored their design to the requirements of the individuals who might use such a device, based on hours of research. I am not a fan-boy but I have come to expect good products from Apple and I don't let bias shape my opinion I hope.

    If Microsoft produces a tablet, it will be based on the business need to be in a space that they feel threatened in, and which Apple is entering. It will lag in production long enough for them to determine some of the features of the Apple product so they can imitate them, and it will be based on insufficient research and design and be under a lot of restrictions based on their OS limitations. The end result will be cheaper, but not faster or better than the Apple product - for all values of cheaper. I don't expect a high quality product from Microsoft - and with a few clear exceptions (MS Word for instance) they seldom exceed those low expectations. I recognize they have a much harder job since they have to support a massive variety of hardware and Apple can specify the hardware themselves, but the end result is usually a pale immitation.

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  35. Uncontrolled leaks by 200_success · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Also of interest is how Apple handles unauthorized leaks from its employees. Apparently, they lock down buildings and inspect employees' personal communication devices to hunt down the perpetrator.

    1. Re:Uncontrolled leaks by socz · · Score: 1

      Read most of those posts and it's scary if true. I understand the need to have secrecy and protect information... but it still sucks as it seems to be more of put the fear in your employees by making an example of someone rather than threatening alone.

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    2. Re:Uncontrolled leaks by Swift2001 · · Score: 1

      When they're hired, they're told this is a firing offense. So it goes.

    3. Re:Uncontrolled leaks by Swift2001 · · Score: 1

      There's lots of places you can work. The condition for this place is that they control the news about future developments. Firing makes you pay attention.

  36. HERETIC by mjwx · · Score: 1

    Steve apologized for this unusual early disclosure and explained why they did it.

    How dare you suggest his Steveness could have done anything in error. Don't you know Apple never does anything wrong.

    Tie the witch to the iStake and burn him

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  37. Uh.... by rickshaf · · Score: 1

    and this is a story because?