It has the same meaning as "fuck off", but the "fuck" part is sort of omitted - there are variants that specify exactly what the other party can do. Maybe it is closer to "bite me".
They can file for declaratory judgement in response to a cease-and-desist letter in Germany as well as in the US, but they won't make money off it. If they win, Atari will have to pay all fees involved.
There is no exploitation of the open source community going on here. There is no measurable contribution to the MySQL code base from the community. 99.99% of all work on it is done by the 400+ employees that MySQL AB had when it was acquired. Sun would possibly even like free developers that they could exploit, but there aren't really any. For almost any person in the OSS community, MySQL being available under the terms of the GPL *only* means that they can use it for free, ignoring some small-scale projects like Google Summer of Code for simplicity.
If you're looking for companies that exploit OSS developers, look at the Postgres based commercial database offers. Postgres is licensed under the BSD licensing terms, which allows companies to basically use the source with almost no obligations (and none that have any business relevance). There are quite a number that are doing this, see Greenplum, EnterpriseDB etc.
The command line tool DOES do tab completion if you use readline (and not libedit). Maybe it doesn't do it your specific case. What are you trying to do?
There are close to no free coders involved. 99.999% of all MySQL code is currently being written by the more than 400 employees that joined Sun by way of being acquired along with MySQL AB.
The architecture that is being suggested for backup here is in fact open source friendly, as Sun could just as easily have decided to NOT implement the provisions for it in the GPL code base. As it is now, there will be plenty of opportunity to hook up your own backup stuff, which is a good thing.
The/. summary is misleading. It isn't MySQL that is going to be closed-sourced, it's just that Sun will develop additional products that MySQL customers will be able to buy and use with their GPL MySQL server if they so choose. This isn't really news, MySQL AB has done so before, for example with the most excellent MySQL Enterprise Monitor.
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MySQL already requires contributors to sign over rights on contributed source code. No change.
That's the most wrong idea of what MySQL (the company) is that I've seen so far...
MySQL AB has close to 400 employees, more than 100 of which are engineers working on its products. They didn't buy a bunch of consultants. They bought a) almost all developers, b) rights to the source code, and c) a working business based on selling MySQL (the database) and support for it.
Windows 95 was the best consumer operating system in 1995 (I like Apple, but Macs still had cooperative multitasking though OS 9.) Hmm, personally I liked TOS better back then. It had preemptive Multitasking... but Atari didn't sell any computers anymore;-)
No offense, but you're an idiot. Don't run your mouth off as though you know what you're talking about. (For the most part?) They don't operate on 2.4 ghz, most on the 900 mhz range from what I've seen. And the "from what I've seen" is exactly the problem with your statement. Unlike in the USA, in Europe the 900 MHz band is used for GSM. You'd have a hard time selling 900 MHz gadgets here.
Not sure why this is modded Troll. It's only a bit of flaming wrapped around the basic truth that people in general don't understand basic physics for a variety of good and valid reasons. For example, on this page I've seen many comments to the effect that the range of a wireless keyboard is only so short, failing to take into account that you could just use a bigger antenna (essentially). I wouldn't call the authors of these comments idiots, but if they represent the technologically oriented crowd like they should on a platform like slashdot, then what reason is there for not believing the general public to be ignorant of such matters?
Just judging from the performance it's clearly not a supercomputer, you can get more than 26.5 GFLOPS with one single (expensive) Xeon CPU in a standard PC, and it will not necessarily cost more than $2500. But this is a student project, I guess the idea was designing and building a supercomputer, not building a fast computer. And this is clearly *designed* as a supercomputer - it's just not fast - but don't let that cloud your judgment.
During WWII, Japan attacked us, not Germany. We went after Germany first. Preemption is not always a bad thing. I'd think that allowing US forces to shoot German battleships can hardly be considered "going after Germany" and there was no formal declaration of war either until four days after Pearl Harbor, but it was Germany that declared war upon the US, and not the other way round. The US did not really take part in the WWII in Europe until 1944.
There's nothing preemptive about the Iraq war though. Saddam had attacked Kuwait, and he signed a surrender agreement that he did not abide by (he also defied 12 UN resolutions). It's certainly not preemptive, after all, the US went after Iran in the Iraq/Iran war 1980-1988, when *Iraq* started attacking oil tankers, and when *Iraq* had started the war in the first place. So it's more like switching sides in an almost thirty years old conflict, but certainly not preemptive.
Yes the guy who made the page asked an unacceptably high amount for the page, but still does not justify the Obama campaigns actions. I disagree. The myspace page used Obama's name. There is such a thing as a right to your own name, and Obama has every law and also common sense on his side if he doesn't want some other guy to use his.
Obama's campaign just want COMPLETE control over everything dealing with their candidate, which I find more frightening than the MySpace ordeal itself. I don't think so. I wouldn't want someone else to create a myspace page about me, using my photo and my personal details, either.
As for the registering in his name bit; we must remember that this page is OLD, it wasn't spurred by Obama running for president, but by Obama originally running for senate, meaning this was a local thing and not some big hijacking thing. Even more reason for not shelling out $50k for it. I didn't know this bit and it just makes the $50k look a lot more like opportunism than it did anyway.
The first Macintosh, the Apple IIgs, the Atari ST series, Amigas all had graphical user interfaces more than twenty years ago; my calculator (Ti89) has more processing power than all of these (and the same CPU as most of these, except the IIgs - a Motorola 68000). So the presence of a GUI can't really explain the bloatiness of today's software.
In total? Didn't you read the rest of his comments? Strict isn't 'strict' at all. You have to go in and twist a bunch of knobs to even come close. Yes, and you only need to do this once, outside any SQL session. It's just a matter of how you set up your server, and if you've seen how long it takes to install Oracle you can't really complain about setting a couple of switches in MySQL.
I don't understand how MySQL is a rip-off - apparently you expect to get something for free that is created by 350 employees at MySQL? How is it a rip-off if MySQL wants to be able to pay those 350 salaries?
My experience with "paid support" is that people who are essentially hired monkeys and who do not understand what they're talking about do google searches for you while you wait. If that fails, they talk to their managers who then do more google searches.
See, that's exactly what MySQL support is not. I invite you to go over to mysql.com and have a look at their job offerings, where you can read the qualifications required for a support engineer.
Furthermore, the license behind PostgreSQL is MORE FREE than the one behind MySQL. You can build a commercial, shipping product with PostgreSQL and not be beholden to per-sale fees, as you'd see with MySQL. That's just the old BSD vs. GPL discussion, no point in trying again to establish which one is more free. But consider this: If PostgreSQL was LESS FREE in your terms of freedom, it would be the only Oracle compatible open source database by now. As it is, EnterpriseDB, which is PostgreSQL with added Oracle compatibility, is a closed-source, commercial product.
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It has the same meaning as "fuck off", but the "fuck" part is sort of omitted - there are variants that specify exactly what the other party can do. Maybe it is closer to "bite me".
They can file for declaratory judgement in response to a cease-and-desist letter in Germany as well as in the US, but they won't make money off it. If they win, Atari will have to pay all fees involved.
Oh, you don't have to use Xvnc with its own display - you might as well use x11vnc to export an existing display.
I'm sorry, but you're a bit off here.
There is no exploitation of the open source community going on here. There is no measurable contribution to the MySQL code base from the community. 99.99% of all work on it is done by the 400+ employees that MySQL AB had when it was acquired. Sun would possibly even like free developers that they could exploit, but there aren't really any. For almost any person in the OSS community, MySQL being available under the terms of the GPL *only* means that they can use it for free, ignoring some small-scale projects like Google Summer of Code for simplicity.
If you're looking for companies that exploit OSS developers, look at the Postgres based commercial database offers. Postgres is licensed under the BSD licensing terms, which allows companies to basically use the source with almost no obligations (and none that have any business relevance). There are quite a number that are doing this, see Greenplum, EnterpriseDB etc.
The command line tool DOES do tab completion if you use readline (and not libedit). Maybe it doesn't do it your specific case. What are you trying to do?
There are close to no free coders involved. 99.999% of all MySQL code is currently being written by the more than 400 employees that joined Sun by way of being acquired along with MySQL AB.
The architecture that is being suggested for backup here is in fact open source friendly, as Sun could just as easily have decided to NOT implement the provisions for it in the GPL code base. As it is now, there will be plenty of opportunity to hook up your own backup stuff, which is a good thing.
The /. summary is misleading. It isn't MySQL that is going to be closed-sourced, it's just that Sun will develop additional products that MySQL customers will be able to buy and use with their GPL MySQL server if they so choose. This isn't really news, MySQL AB has done so before, for example with the most excellent MySQL Enterprise Monitor.
MySQL already requires contributors to sign over rights on contributed source code. No change.
That's the most wrong idea of what MySQL (the company) is that I've seen so far...
MySQL AB has close to 400 employees, more than 100 of which are engineers working on its products. They didn't buy a bunch of consultants. They bought a) almost all developers, b) rights to the source code, and c) a working business based on selling MySQL (the database) and support for it.
You didn't include his answer. Was it "none, I'm forbidden by law from storing them on this computer"?
Not sure why this is modded Troll. It's only a bit of flaming wrapped around the basic truth that people in general don't understand basic physics for a variety of good and valid reasons. For example, on this page I've seen many comments to the effect that the range of a wireless keyboard is only so short, failing to take into account that you could just use a bigger antenna (essentially). I wouldn't call the authors of these comments idiots, but if they represent the technologically oriented crowd like they should on a platform like slashdot, then what reason is there for not believing the general public to be ignorant of such matters?
The discussion whether good and evil are relative or absolute has been keeping philosophers busy for millennia.
The references section of this wikipedia article is a good starting point if you're interested: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_and_evil
Just judging from the performance it's clearly not a supercomputer, you can get more than 26.5 GFLOPS with one single (expensive) Xeon CPU in a standard PC, and it will not necessarily cost more than $2500. But this is a student project, I guess the idea was designing and building a supercomputer, not building a fast computer. And this is clearly *designed* as a supercomputer - it's just not fast - but don't let that cloud your judgment.
Obama's campaign just want COMPLETE control over everything dealing with their candidate, which I find more frightening than the MySpace ordeal itself. I don't think so. I wouldn't want someone else to create a myspace page about me, using my photo and my personal details, either.
As for the registering in his name bit; we must remember that this page is OLD, it wasn't spurred by Obama running for president, but by Obama originally running for senate, meaning this was a local thing and not some big hijacking thing. Even more reason for not shelling out $50k for it. I didn't know this bit and it just makes the $50k look a lot more like opportunism than it did anyway.
Coincidentally, that's about the only rule that's never being followed by government itself ;-)
The first Macintosh, the Apple IIgs, the Atari ST series, Amigas all had graphical user interfaces more than twenty years ago; my calculator (Ti89) has more processing power than all of these (and the same CPU as most of these, except the IIgs - a Motorola 68000). So the presence of a GUI can't really explain the bloatiness of today's software.
Try again.
I never data is sacred, whatever that means. But you can use logging in MySQL and log all transactions to some write-once media if you like.
No, that's not actually true, you can use MySQL fine without having to use the GPL for your software.
However you may be using a GPL'd connector - so you're linking to a GPL library. Not actually new, it's the same for all GPL code.
But I don't understand anyway, why do you expect to get something for free while you don't seem to give away something in return?
I don't understand how MySQL is a rip-off - apparently you expect to get something for free that is created by 350 employees at MySQL? How is it a rip-off if MySQL wants to be able to pay those 350 salaries?
My experience with "paid support" is that people who are essentially hired monkeys and who do not understand what they're talking about do google searches for you while you wait. If that fails, they talk to their managers who then do more google searches.
See, that's exactly what MySQL support is not. I invite you to go over to mysql.com and have a look at their job offerings, where you can read the qualifications required for a support engineer.