And Windows 8's touch interface isn't actually bad on touch devices, most people complain because they don't like it on a desktop.
I agree, on a touchscreen it's actually really good. On the desktop not so much, but then again I don't really see it on the desktop anyway in fact there's very little need to use it at all outside of launching applications that aren't on the desktop or pinned to the taskbar and once you're using your applications (which is the point anyway) they aren't any different.
Why do people always use the term 'extortion'? The fact is that it isn't extortion so referring to it as such just means you don't know what you're talking about and are exaggerating to further your point. Sure if you were to restrain yourself to using factual terms your post wouldn't be as dramatic but at least it would be taken seriously which is the first step in enacting change.
but have people really moved on that quickly that everyone today has an IP-connected TV in their living room with which to watch films?
Well it's pretty cheap and easy, there's AppleTV, Roku, Boxee, WD TV, HTPCs, and all manner of internet-connected DVRs for those that don't have it built directly into the TV. Then of course there are those that watch on laptops or tablets and may even plug these into their TVs.
Microsoft: Surface and Windows Phone 8 run the same software (with a minuscule number of exceptions).
FTFY. This does seem like a good plan but WP hasn't gained enough traction to make WinRT attractive to end users. Though given that it does have the desktop you would think that opening it to desktop development would hugely increase its attractiveness as a platform.
Seriously. Why is android SO DAMN SLOW at browsing? Sure, my desktop is a Core i5 and firefox is really fast in it. But in both my phone (HTC Sensation) and the tablet, browsing is stupidly slow. And I tried Chrome, Firefox, Android Browser, Dolphin, Opera... I'm using to click-page opens.
I have the same problem! I just don't understand it, even through various iterations of Android and custom firmware it's only slightly better yet still strangely slow and laggy.
Yeah, I'm fairly sure it's not the only one around either. I can't imagine that price point is a particularly high barrier to entry, easier than getting yourself a raspberry pi and £75 screen. Either way there are plenty of ways to get into hardware hacking outside of raspberry pi and a usb GPIO board for your PC, laptop or tablet is a pretty accessible one.
Well, there's the issue of driver compatibility. For instance, does the touch screen work as expected? The stylus? Camera and mic? Could be really neat to run Plasma Active if all that works, then have it switch to the regular shell if you connect a keyboard.
That question depends on what you are installing, it's standard hardware so if there are drivers for it and the software you are installing is written to support it then it should work. You have that same issue of driver compatibility on every system.
Explain the value proposition in paying US$1000 for an x86 tablet when there are ultrabooks with comparable specs that can be had for almost half the price.
Like what? Please give me an example. Yes there are Ultrabooks that can be had for almost half the price but which ones have a touchscreen and active stylus? If those aren't features you want/need then obviously you would be better served by a cheaper Ultrabook that doesn't have those features.
No I wasn't assuming you're an idiot, I can't understand why you would jump to that conclusion and then go even further and take it so personally and get angry about it. I'm sorry I hurt your feelings, not everybody knows that Android's kernel is Linux and I don't consider those who don't know that to be idiots.
Does the resolution really have a strong relation to CPU power? I thought the GPU did most of the heavy lifting when it comes to the display?
If you're talking 3D graphics then yes, the GPU does most of the heavy lifting. Increasing the resolution increases the load on the GPU but doesn't really have much impact on the CPU since it really isn't doing things any differently (unless of course you are using different assets for different screen resolutions then it can start to have more of an impact).
Firstly, yes it does run Linux by default as kernel for the Android operating system is Linux.
Looking for something to replace my not so gracefully aging N900.
Depends on your requirements, if you want a hardware keyboard, stylus and resistive touch screen then this won't be for you.
God what I wouldn't give for a phone with a pressure sensitive screen that can run mypaint, decent battery life, and can run linux or commonlisp.
Not sure of any smartphones with pressure sensitive screens outside resistive touch ones (which aren't common nowadays). There is a version of mypaint for Android, battery life on recent nexus devices is about the same as the N900 and as I mentioned it already runs Linux.
Approximately as annoying as my wife's Nexus 4 Blow Pops which bricked the device a few times during device recharges. (in fairness, workaround exists going through boot menu for that one)
It's a gaming benchmark so it would include a significant portion of CPU as well. If you look at the benchmark program itself (if you don't have it you can see videos on youtube) it certainly has a heavy reliance on the CPU, cranking the resolution to push it beyond acceptable framerates would make it more GPU-bound but given that the tests in question appear to be done at even lower than native resolution (at 720p) the CPU is going to have a significant impact on the results.
What they don't acknowledge is that people grow habits. Once we've learned a thing, we can repeat the thing pretty easily. I don't have to "search" for Excel on my PC, I know that if I click down here, then up and over here, I see the little [X~] icon. I don't open the search bar and type Excel. And I never open the search bar and type Excel.
I do that most of the time, the reason is it is consistent across systems and even fairly consistent across platforms. I don't have to concern myself with people's choice of where to place, arrange or organize files or icons because on Windows I can just hit the Windows key and start typing (works on the start menu pre-8 and the start screen in 8) or Command+Space on OSX and start typing.
The benchmark they used seems to run at the native screen resolution
Actually you can run it in onscreen (native) and offscreen (720p) modes, given that the Nexus4 scores 15.8 in onscreen mode it's probably more likely to be an offscreen comparison or perhaps a weighted combination of the two.
It's more a testament to how much better a clean Android version performs since there are other phones out with the same general specs (CPU/GPU).
Is it actually the same specs or just the same model of GPU? It doesn't even say what the GPU clocks are so the benchmark on its own is pretty meaningless as far as drawing conclusions about stock Android vs OEM Android.
That still shits me that I can't get push gmail on my iphone in a normal email client anymore, worse there is a loyal base of google apologists that defend their removal of features (and making them paid) like this.
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And then the Year of the Linux Desktop will finally arrive?
And Windows 8's touch interface isn't actually bad on touch devices, most people complain because they don't like it on a desktop.
I agree, on a touchscreen it's actually really good. On the desktop not so much, but then again I don't really see it on the desktop anyway in fact there's very little need to use it at all outside of launching applications that aren't on the desktop or pinned to the taskbar and once you're using your applications (which is the point anyway) they aren't any different.
Why do people always use the term 'extortion'? The fact is that it isn't extortion so referring to it as such just means you don't know what you're talking about and are exaggerating to further your point. Sure if you were to restrain yourself to using factual terms your post wouldn't be as dramatic but at least it would be taken seriously which is the first step in enacting change.
These days it's quick enough to do those things over a network so it doesn't matter.
but have people really moved on that quickly that everyone today has an IP-connected TV in their living room with which to watch films?
Well it's pretty cheap and easy, there's AppleTV, Roku, Boxee, WD TV, HTPCs, and all manner of internet-connected DVRs for those that don't have it built directly into the TV. Then of course there are those that watch on laptops or tablets and may even plug these into their TVs.
Microsoft: Surface and Windows Phone 8 run the same software (with a minuscule number of exceptions).
FTFY. This does seem like a good plan but WP hasn't gained enough traction to make WinRT attractive to end users. Though given that it does have the desktop you would think that opening it to desktop development would hugely increase its attractiveness as a platform.
Seriously. Why is android SO DAMN SLOW at browsing? Sure, my desktop is a Core i5 and firefox is really fast in it. But in both my phone (HTC Sensation) and the tablet, browsing is stupidly slow. And I tried Chrome, Firefox, Android Browser, Dolphin, Opera... I'm using to click-page opens.
I have the same problem! I just don't understand it, even through various iterations of Android and custom firmware it's only slightly better yet still strangely slow and laggy.
Yeah, I'm fairly sure it's not the only one around either. I can't imagine that price point is a particularly high barrier to entry, easier than getting yourself a raspberry pi and £75 screen. Either way there are plenty of ways to get into hardware hacking outside of raspberry pi and a usb GPIO board for your PC, laptop or tablet is a pretty accessible one.
How many GPIO pins does your ARM tablet have by the way?
Just plug something like this into your tablet.
Well, there's the issue of driver compatibility. For instance, does the touch screen work as expected? The stylus? Camera and mic? Could be really neat to run Plasma Active if all that works, then have it switch to the regular shell if you connect a keyboard.
That question depends on what you are installing, it's standard hardware so if there are drivers for it and the software you are installing is written to support it then it should work. You have that same issue of driver compatibility on every system.
Explain the value proposition in paying US$1000 for an x86 tablet when there are ultrabooks with comparable specs that can be had for almost half the price.
Like what? Please give me an example. Yes there are Ultrabooks that can be had for almost half the price but which ones have a touchscreen and active stylus? If those aren't features you want/need then obviously you would be better served by a cheaper Ultrabook that doesn't have those features.
No I wasn't assuming you're an idiot, I can't understand why you would jump to that conclusion and then go even further and take it so personally and get angry about it. I'm sorry I hurt your feelings, not everybody knows that Android's kernel is Linux and I don't consider those who don't know that to be idiots.
Does the resolution really have a strong relation to CPU power? I thought the GPU did most of the heavy lifting when it comes to the display?
If you're talking 3D graphics then yes, the GPU does most of the heavy lifting. Increasing the resolution increases the load on the GPU but doesn't really have much impact on the CPU since it really isn't doing things any differently (unless of course you are using different assets for different screen resolutions then it can start to have more of an impact).
Need an X server! My kingdom for a decent xserver on android then I wouldn't care. I'd just write lisp and serve it up on my wd mybooklive.
There is an x server implementation for android here which is mostly complete.
When you ask "does it run Linux?", stating that it does is not being 'pedantic'.
Looking for something to replace my not so gracefully aging N900.
Depends on your requirements, if you want a hardware keyboard, stylus and resistive touch screen then this won't be for you.
God what I wouldn't give for a phone with a pressure sensitive screen that can run mypaint, decent battery life, and can run linux or commonlisp.
Not sure of any smartphones with pressure sensitive screens outside resistive touch ones (which aren't common nowadays). There is a version of mypaint for Android, battery life on recent nexus devices is about the same as the N900 and as I mentioned it already runs Linux.
Approximately as annoying as my wife's Nexus 4 Blow Pops which bricked the device a few times during device recharges. (in fairness, workaround exists going through boot menu for that one)
It's hardly 'bricked' then is it.
These are often marketed as GPGPU products, nVidia's Tesla for example, rather than taking a bunch of Geforces and putting them together.
It's a gaming benchmark so it would include a significant portion of CPU as well. If you look at the benchmark program itself (if you don't have it you can see videos on youtube) it certainly has a heavy reliance on the CPU, cranking the resolution to push it beyond acceptable framerates would make it more GPU-bound but given that the tests in question appear to be done at even lower than native resolution (at 720p) the CPU is going to have a significant impact on the results.
What they don't acknowledge is that people grow habits. Once we've learned a thing, we can repeat the thing pretty easily. I don't have to "search" for Excel on my PC, I know that if I click down here, then up and over here, I see the little [X~] icon. I don't open the search bar and type Excel. And I never open the search bar and type Excel.
I do that most of the time, the reason is it is consistent across systems and even fairly consistent across platforms. I don't have to concern myself with people's choice of where to place, arrange or organize files or icons because on Windows I can just hit the Windows key and start typing (works on the start menu pre-8 and the start screen in 8) or Command+Space on OSX and start typing.
So his main issue with gmail....
"It doesn't work with Exchange Active Sync"
And that's google's fault?
Yes, they removed EAS support, you have to buy a Google Apps for Business subscription to get it back.
The benchmark they used seems to run at the native screen resolution
Actually you can run it in onscreen (native) and offscreen (720p) modes, given that the Nexus4 scores 15.8 in onscreen mode it's probably more likely to be an offscreen comparison or perhaps a weighted combination of the two.
It's more a testament to how much better a clean Android version performs since there are other phones out with the same general specs (CPU/GPU).
Is it actually the same specs or just the same model of GPU? It doesn't even say what the GPU clocks are so the benchmark on its own is pretty meaningless as far as drawing conclusions about stock Android vs OEM Android.
That still shits me that I can't get push gmail on my iphone in a normal email client anymore, worse there is a loyal base of google apologists that defend their removal of features (and making them paid) like this.
I can just see the competition advertising: The Samsung Smartwatch, so bad you'd rather have 6 CueCats.