I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. I see your argument as a mindless assault on logic that borders between stupid and absurd. You attempted several classic debate derail tactics such as subtle shifting of subject. You attempted to argue that analogy should be exact or it is a false analogy. You attempted to argue that denying some minutiae of analogy will nulligy the entire analogy, regardless of main point of analogy being correct.
And you made a point to avoid the actual point of analogy - that old computers and old cars that serve their purpose are perfectly fine now, and will likely be perfectly fine five years from now - like a plague.
All in all, you behaved fully like a bought and paid for microsoft astroturfer, spreading fear, uncertainty and doubt as to argue that upgrade is mandatory and should happen sooner rather than later. And it's well known that when one's income is tied to denying facts in their face, it's almost impossible to convince them to face the facts.
Hint: it does not have to match EXACTLY, just good enough. The only thing in the world that can be an exact match, is the exact same thing. The argument that analogy is not exactly same as subject is quite possibly the stupidest argument you could ever have.
For those extreme once-twice a year occasions, grab a taxi. It offers far more freedom than your own car, as it doesn't tie you down financially, nor do you have to worry about breakdowns.
For the rest of uses in larger cities, there is public transit.
One must understand that while European cities we built, like most cities around the world and like the older cities in US, around natural needs of the community over centuries, the main buildup of US cities happened as the car boom started. As a result, they were built "inside out" from what cities all over the world generally look. Instead of having city centre that is very densely populated and most prestigious to live in, and various areas outside of it that are less prestigious to live in and less densely populated, US cities were built for a single purpose - to ensure that any family would need a car, preferably several cars to meet their needs.
That means that city centre would have to be built to be not prestigious and generally undesireable to live in, while suburbs surrounding it would be more prestigious to live in and preferably more densely populated. This creates a modern US city - where city centre is something of a slum (outside skyscraper inhabitants), while outlying neighbourhoods are extremely wealthy.
This is something that a lot of people that live both in US and abroad generally come to notice first. There are some exceptions when it comes to cities that became large before the boom, such as New York. Incidentally, there's a lot less car ownership in New York and far more functional public transit as a result of more traditional city layout.
Actually a lot of them do. I've seen everything from simply making content vanish unless ads are loaded to even sillier tricks, like making every page link to adfly which would then contain a link to the actual content and every time you'd visit the site, first time it would force you to hit adfly.
That is the entire point of free market. It's supposed to worship unregulated capitalism and corporatism/fascism because that's what it's all about. This requires, by definition, subversion of any non-capital controlled government in target country.
Of course, you don't get to hear about this in speeches. But the fact is that to free market capitalism, democratic rule is a worst dictatorship possible, as it dilutes the power of money and puts power in hands of people instead. Free market has been aggressively subverting and overthrowing democracies in weaker countries for decades now because of this fact. It's just that the chickens are finally coming home to roost as it has become powerful enough to challenge power structures in large first world countries now.
And soon enough, no site will be. And you'll finally get out in the sun, proud that you kicked that nasty internet habit!
Seriously though. People visit pages not to make themselves feel good but to get information. If informative page or site decides to screw you over, you're the one boned. Not the site.
So one law applies, and other does not. Interesting selective application of logic there as well.
Also by your logic it's not your home. It's my home. Your home, as with your other assets have become mine by the declaration. As a result, you are in fact in my home, squatting.
Then you are ignorant of basic physics. The main source of trauma in accidents is acceleration force. Car that "stands up to impact" essentially transfers that energy to those inside far more efficiently than one that gets crushed in a controlled fashion, absorbing the energy in the process.
Cars also do become more resilient to accidents happening, as various driver assist systems improve.
Correct. They are under my ownership according to your logic.
And as: My assets =! your assets.
You logic dictates that assets that my friend gifted to me are no longer your assets. They are certainly still assets though. That's why I'm asking why you are holding my assets hostage.
The obvious fact is that your logic depends on one massive fallacy, which I make evident.The fallacy of focusing on similarities while ignoring the glaring differences. Effectively you are engaging in lie of omission.
No, I merely put them on the same starting line. It costs next to nothing to deliver the updates. It also costs next to nothing to deliver the information necessary for service to be performed on the car.
The cost is manwork of the actual maintenance. In case of companies, this is performed by IT staff which are on salary and definitely not free, regardless of MS offering support. At home, you do the maintenance yourself "for free" as you put it by enabling and accepting updates and keeping software up to date in general. Or you can pay your neighborhood nerd to do it for you.
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For 22 houses? They'll laugh at your bluff.
Question you ask in the bold is clearly answered in the post you posted the previous message as an answer. In its own paragraph no less.
You're just obviously trolling now.
And yet, urban wealth doesn't really "move out" anywhere else in the world.
Clearly, a completely incidental thing!
Actually "pal". Friend would be "ystävä".
I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. I see your argument as a mindless assault on logic that borders between stupid and absurd. You attempted several classic debate derail tactics such as subtle shifting of subject. You attempted to argue that analogy should be exact or it is a false analogy. You attempted to argue that denying some minutiae of analogy will nulligy the entire analogy, regardless of main point of analogy being correct.
And you made a point to avoid the actual point of analogy - that old computers and old cars that serve their purpose are perfectly fine now, and will likely be perfectly fine five years from now - like a plague.
All in all, you behaved fully like a bought and paid for microsoft astroturfer, spreading fear, uncertainty and doubt as to argue that upgrade is mandatory and should happen sooner rather than later. And it's well known that when one's income is tied to denying facts in their face, it's almost impossible to convince them to face the facts.
Hair splitting at its finest from you.
I'll just leave this here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analogy
Hint: it does not have to match EXACTLY, just good enough. The only thing in the world that can be an exact match, is the exact same thing. The argument that analogy is not exactly same as subject is quite possibly the stupidest argument you could ever have.
For those extreme once-twice a year occasions, grab a taxi. It offers far more freedom than your own car, as it doesn't tie you down financially, nor do you have to worry about breakdowns.
For the rest of uses in larger cities, there is public transit.
One must understand that while European cities we built, like most cities around the world and like the older cities in US, around natural needs of the community over centuries, the main buildup of US cities happened as the car boom started. As a result, they were built "inside out" from what cities all over the world generally look. Instead of having city centre that is very densely populated and most prestigious to live in, and various areas outside of it that are less prestigious to live in and less densely populated, US cities were built for a single purpose - to ensure that any family would need a car, preferably several cars to meet their needs.
That means that city centre would have to be built to be not prestigious and generally undesireable to live in, while suburbs surrounding it would be more prestigious to live in and preferably more densely populated. This creates a modern US city - where city centre is something of a slum (outside skyscraper inhabitants), while outlying neighbourhoods are extremely wealthy.
This is something that a lot of people that live both in US and abroad generally come to notice first. There are some exceptions when it comes to cities that became large before the boom, such as New York. Incidentally, there's a lot less car ownership in New York and far more functional public transit as a result of more traditional city layout.
Now you've jumped topics. We were talking about SECURITY updates. Not FEATURE updates.
Actually a lot of them do. I've seen everything from simply making content vanish unless ads are loaded to even sillier tricks, like making every page link to adfly which would then contain a link to the actual content and every time you'd visit the site, first time it would force you to hit adfly.
Huge amount of pages are specialist pages that talk about certain topic in depth that you will not find anywhere else. At least no easily.
Now if your main interests are mainstream news and entertainment, sure, you can find that for free anywhere.
Walk off that particular road, and you'll find internet full of interesting information, that is often not mirrored anywhere.
People do expect such updates if security is compromised. See: recalls for repairs or maintenance.
I see you use the same dictionary as NSA and Ministry of Truth.
That is factually incorrect for several -ism's.
Examples:
Capitalism
Socialism
Fascism
That is the entire point of free market. It's supposed to worship unregulated capitalism and corporatism/fascism because that's what it's all about. This requires, by definition, subversion of any non-capital controlled government in target country.
Of course, you don't get to hear about this in speeches. But the fact is that to free market capitalism, democratic rule is a worst dictatorship possible, as it dilutes the power of money and puts power in hands of people instead. Free market has been aggressively subverting and overthrowing democracies in weaker countries for decades now because of this fact. It's just that the chickens are finally coming home to roost as it has become powerful enough to challenge power structures in large first world countries now.
And soon enough, no site will be. And you'll finally get out in the sun, proud that you kicked that nasty internet habit!
Seriously though. People visit pages not to make themselves feel good but to get information. If informative page or site decides to screw you over, you're the one boned. Not the site.
So one law applies, and other does not. Interesting selective application of logic there as well.
Also by your logic it's not your home. It's my home. Your home, as with your other assets have become mine by the declaration. As a result, you are in fact in my home, squatting.
Then you are ignorant of basic physics. The main source of trauma in accidents is acceleration force. Car that "stands up to impact" essentially transfers that energy to those inside far more efficiently than one that gets crushed in a controlled fashion, absorbing the energy in the process.
Cars also do become more resilient to accidents happening, as various driver assist systems improve.
Correct. They are under my ownership according to your logic.
And as:
My assets =! your assets.
You logic dictates that assets that my friend gifted to me are no longer your assets. They are certainly still assets though. That's why I'm asking why you are holding my assets hostage.
The obvious fact is that your logic depends on one massive fallacy, which I make evident.The fallacy of focusing on similarities while ignoring the glaring differences. Effectively you are engaging in lie of omission.
I hope you live as you preach as:
Your assets = not my assets.
My friend's assets = not assets.
Therefore:
My friend's assets = your assets.
My friends gifted his assets that are in your possession to me. Please provide me with your address so I can fetch them. Thanks.
Car manufacturers offer firmware upgrades when they are needed with yearly maintenance.
Mandatory xkcd:
https://xkcd.com/538/
To clarify: WAU owned itself completely. No updates at all for over two years.
Now you're being intentionally daft.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analogy
If you go hair-splitting looking for differences in analogies, you'll easily find them. Which is not the point.
No, I merely put them on the same starting line. It costs next to nothing to deliver the updates. It also costs next to nothing to deliver the information necessary for service to be performed on the car.
The cost is manwork of the actual maintenance. In case of companies, this is performed by IT staff which are on salary and definitely not free, regardless of MS offering support. At home, you do the maintenance yourself "for free" as you put it by enabling and accepting updates and keeping software up to date in general. Or you can pay your neighborhood nerd to do it for you.