Any available means, ranging from rape, to prostitution, to acceptance of cuckoldry and countless others.
There are countless strategies for acquiring a sexual partner in our species. Outcomes of them vary wildly, and one of the key reasons why monogamous societies have clearly defeated their competition in the test of time is that strategies that are common in such societies result in better societal outcomes on average than common strategies in other kinds of societies, such as one we migrated to in the West.
How are they different from other major biological impulses that they are "integrated", but things like violent tendencies are not in your view?
Let's ignore the fact that reality is in direct opposition to this interpretation. Even through most societies regulate violent tendencies at least as harshly as sexual ones, let's just assume for the sake of argument that you are in fact correct in your assumptions.
Ability to import technically minded and talented people improves when the rest of the world is in a crisis and you're the stable one. You're arguing against yourself here.
See, technically minded people prefer stable states where they can achieve their full potential. And they are the ones who have the ability to secure permission to immigrate and pay for the trip.
We all have our needs. One of the best parts of pre-quantum firefox has been that it could be adapted to serve unique needs of each and every user, thanks to the myriad of very powerful addons that could customize the browser in incredible amount of ways.
With that gone, it's basically worse chromium. Worse web page support, about the same level of customizability. If it works for you, great. You're one of the lucky one's who's needs are sufficiently met by a browser with nothing but webextensions as addon API.
One has to remember however, that most people who's needs are met by that have no reason to not simply use the original that has more support on the web. Chromium and its derivatives.
Neither. Instead free sexuality enables women to pursue the biological imperative to focus the competition on top 20% only. Which among the other things appear to be resulting in collapse of the institution of marriage, massive increase in unhappiness among women who find themselves unable to secure a partner, massive unhappiness in males who find themselves in the same position. It worsens the outcomes for children of both sexes, creates a large, increasingly extremist and capable class of men who are not invested into the society they live in and so on.
Your attempts to increase confusion by mudding the waters with cultures that are not in the modern Western umbrella, and have completely different problems, as well as the feeble denials of reality "oh but there's no evidence. Please ignore everything stated above. Reality doesn't actually count as evidence, because I ignore it".
My experience with Pale Moon as a multi-year user, and with Moonchild as the head dev in particular is that he doesn't just not care what users want. At all. He will actively tell you to go fuck yourself in no uncertain words when you have a problem with things like compatibility "because it's not my responsibility to make web pages work when they don't strictly conform to web standards". Usually followed with "this is my project, and I'm working on it for myself".
This was used as a "final word" in at least the following events:
1. Jetpack addon apocalypse. 2. Engine migration which broke both various popular websites and many addons. 3. Utterly autistic implementation of security protocols. I use this term in a technical sense, the implementation basically ignores reality of modern web, breaking things like web banking, ticket buying systems and so on with "no common cipher" etc errors.
And he lacks Torvads' eloquence in it, so it comes off as really off-putting when you have been a target of these outbursts a few times.
Pale Moon nuked the jetpack addons even before Mozilla had its addon apocalypse. It now has dedicated team of people who have to mess around with each addon release just to make it work on Pale Moon. Find out more on addons section of palemoon web page.
You speak of trade. You progress to subject of trade war.
Then you proceed to cite example of Cuba.
Do you have any knowledge of history at all? Even school kids can usually sit down and tell you that Cuban missile crisis was about missiles and not trade.
This returns me to the "you can ignore reality, but you cannot ignore the consequences of reality". Even if you know you're not a witch, and sanity and logic clearly shows that you're not a witch, if your village overwhelmingly believes you're a witch, you're going to burn.
And all the logic in the world will not help you in denying the reality of being burned alive.
Which the my entire point in the nutshell. You cannot just say "well this is morally right from my perspective", while you live in a democratic country in a world with relatively open borders and where overwhelming majority finds your moral views abhorrent and thinks expression of these views should be punishable by the state.
I'll end this with an obvious point. Overwhelming majority of people on the planet find your views abhorrent.
And unlike people who share your opinion, their populations are increasing at significant enough rate to displace people like you in many of Western countries as a democratic force for change.
Let's hope that it is indeed you who gets the last laugh in the end. Against all odds.
Your claim of lack of empirical evidence is bold faced lie. You yourself already acknowledged such evidence above. It's a bit too late to start to pretend it wasn't presented.
As for the rest, well... You already demonstrated utter intolerance towards views that dissent from dogma you established, which borders on religious fanaticism in nature of immediately trying to condemn me in religious terms rather than addressing my points. It's the exact same process that, for example, Christian Inquisition used in dark ages to suppress dissenting views. Considering your insistence on this line of arguing, and utter dismissal of any attempts of mine to actually engage you in argument on merits, I suppose I have to concede. There is no way to reach a fanatic, until his absolute faith in dogma fractures from within.
Here's hoping that when this fracture come, it won't be from deeply personal tragedy as a consequence of items I noted above, a la Bataclan.
Reasonable explanation was in fact provided above. You chose to answer with black and white nonsense. There is zero arrogance in pointing out that it is in fact black and white nonsense.
All biological impulses are integrated into the structure of human society to some extent. That most certainly does not mean that said biological impulses are societal structures. = Otherwise you'd have to make claims such as those that "murderous rage is a societal structure", "anger is societal structure", "laziness is a societal structure" and so on. Just like the claim "homosexuality is a societal structure" all of them are patently absurd claims.
This brings me to asking you for the same question for the third time. Why are you conflating biological urges and societal structures. You have stated above that you think that distinction between the two is "artificial".
In what way? These are completely different subjects. One necessarily leading to another does not make one same as other. Just because adding two and two equals four does not mean that two equals four.
Am I understanding it correctly that you're saying that sexual urges are also societal structures?
I want to comprehend your argument. Can you please elaborate? It sounds frankly absurd on merits you're presenting it so far, so I assume I'm misunderstanding something.
Pale Moon had its own "fuck your addons, we know better" addon apocalypse event. They nuked all jetpack based addons, and then moved to a completely new engine. As a result, many addons no longer work, and of those that do, many gets few if any updates, as browser's own dev team members have to mess with code by hand to make each addon work on it.
Waterfox is a major question mark. They are extremely dependent on mozilla for delivering their browser. With Mozilla having dropped XUL, how they plan on supporting it is a big unknown.
Extensions that are relevant to many are not getting ported. New API is not able to support them in the form and functionality that they were supported on the old one.
Those of us on ESR waiting for quantum castration of this version are actively looking for replacement browser. There aren't that many choices unfortunately. But if one has to accept crippling limitations of webextensions, one may as well move to chromium-derivative browsers.
There is a reason why current free trade is set the way it is. Because US was the party that set it up in Bretton-Woods, and because for US, free trade is not about trade. It's about security. US itself didn't actually invest into the free trade mechanisms it created, and foreign trade as a portion of national GDP in US is very low compared to developed world average. As a point of comparison, even Afghanistan, a land locked, war torn country has a higher portion of foreign trade as national GDP than US. Look it up if you don't believe me.
And of that foreign trade, overwhelming majority is within NAFTA. I'll talk why in a moment.
Essentially US bribed together a coalition of the willing to fight Second World states by opening its markets to allies and neutral states. The only market that survived WW2 more or less intact. And it worked great. It won the Cold War. And ever since then, free trade has been coasting on inertia, with US still upholding the security apparatus that enables it to function, while having no security benefit from it any more.
And in the end of last year, the last primary chain that linked US to global trade markets broke. NAFTA as a region became a net exporter of oil and its derivative products. US is now in a position where it could have an absolutely devastating trade policy, and economically, it would only take a minor hit. The rest of the world on the other hand, having been built on the economic order that requires backing by the US security apparatus would likely collapse. Consider China for example. It is completely dependent on global maritime routes. At the same time it does not have any capability of guaranteeing security of any of the long haul routes. It is completely dependent on US good will in continuing its role as a security guarantor. Same applies to all potential major antagonists in a potential trade war - Russia, Germany, France, Brazil, etc. Name a major state, it depends on safe maritime trade, while having no ability to guarantee security for this trade against hostile state actors.
In this geopolitical situation, it's clear that renegotiation of free trade in relationship to US and services it provides to enable it will be required to keep US involved in the system. It will have to either be a new kind of a security pact, or it will have to be more of a give and take relationship. So far, Trump's actions indicate that he's interested in give and take. And make no mistake - this would have happened regardless of who got elected. Under Clinton, this would probably have been an eight year process with full powerpoint presentations and long and complex negotiations.
Trump is more impulsive and rash, so the process is moving much faster. But the push in this direction has been present ever since Soviet Union fell, and with shale severing that last link that kept US dependent on free trade as it is currently operating, current direction is inevitable.
I would not attribute to malice what can be attributed to misguided desire to make a better world. Twentieth century is choke full of examples of such behaviour on part of societal elite. You need not go beyond the industry barons like Ford and Kellogg for examples of this.
You once again attribute negative factors to my personality to avoid addressing my point. Your intolerance for any views that do not match your religiously dogmaic views is unfortunate, and indeed reinforces the point I made above. I made no statement that can be even remotely described with your first sentence. You're literally fighting a caricature from your imagination and avoiding any kind of interaction with my argument. Read what I actually said and stop trying really hard to pretend that I'm something I'm not to avoid addressing my points.
On your second sentence, I will remind you once more that while you can indeed ignore reality, you cannot ignore consequences of reality. Such as school shootings like this one.
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Any available means, ranging from rape, to prostitution, to acceptance of cuckoldry and countless others.
There are countless strategies for acquiring a sexual partner in our species. Outcomes of them vary wildly, and one of the key reasons why monogamous societies have clearly defeated their competition in the test of time is that strategies that are common in such societies result in better societal outcomes on average than common strategies in other kinds of societies, such as one we migrated to in the West.
How are they different from other major biological impulses that they are "integrated", but things like violent tendencies are not in your view?
Let's ignore the fact that reality is in direct opposition to this interpretation. Even through most societies regulate violent tendencies at least as harshly as sexual ones, let's just assume for the sake of argument that you are in fact correct in your assumptions.
Ability to import technically minded and talented people improves when the rest of the world is in a crisis and you're the stable one. You're arguing against yourself here.
See, technically minded people prefer stable states where they can achieve their full potential. And they are the ones who have the ability to secure permission to immigrate and pay for the trip.
Clinton came hard in opposition to TPP in the presidential race IIRC.
Fun detail. I stated above "and a couple of actual users who actually use it".
Both of you replied to this post. But the massive bot presence that was here a few months ago producing in excess of ten such posts is gone.
When you trigger someone fanatical enough to tell you to kill yourself, you know you hit the nerve.
We all have our needs. One of the best parts of pre-quantum firefox has been that it could be adapted to serve unique needs of each and every user, thanks to the myriad of very powerful addons that could customize the browser in incredible amount of ways.
With that gone, it's basically worse chromium. Worse web page support, about the same level of customizability. If it works for you, great. You're one of the lucky one's who's needs are sufficiently met by a browser with nothing but webextensions as addon API.
One has to remember however, that most people who's needs are met by that have no reason to not simply use the original that has more support on the web. Chromium and its derivatives.
Neither. Instead free sexuality enables women to pursue the biological imperative to focus the competition on top 20% only. Which among the other things appear to be resulting in collapse of the institution of marriage, massive increase in unhappiness among women who find themselves unable to secure a partner, massive unhappiness in males who find themselves in the same position. It worsens the outcomes for children of both sexes, creates a large, increasingly extremist and capable class of men who are not invested into the society they live in and so on.
Your attempts to increase confusion by mudding the waters with cultures that are not in the modern Western umbrella, and have completely different problems, as well as the feeble denials of reality "oh but there's no evidence. Please ignore everything stated above. Reality doesn't actually count as evidence, because I ignore it".
Who has a lot to lose? Who has almost nothing to lose?
Welcome to reality in big cities of Brazil, and increasingly Mexico, and why kidnapping wealthy people is a good business.
My experience with Pale Moon as a multi-year user, and with Moonchild as the head dev in particular is that he doesn't just not care what users want. At all. He will actively tell you to go fuck yourself in no uncertain words when you have a problem with things like compatibility "because it's not my responsibility to make web pages work when they don't strictly conform to web standards". Usually followed with "this is my project, and I'm working on it for myself".
This was used as a "final word" in at least the following events:
1. Jetpack addon apocalypse.
2. Engine migration which broke both various popular websites and many addons.
3. Utterly autistic implementation of security protocols. I use this term in a technical sense, the implementation basically ignores reality of modern web, breaking things like web banking, ticket buying systems and so on with "no common cipher" etc errors.
And he lacks Torvads' eloquence in it, so it comes off as really off-putting when you have been a target of these outbursts a few times.
Pale Moon nuked the jetpack addons even before Mozilla had its addon apocalypse. It now has dedicated team of people who have to mess around with each addon release just to make it work on Pale Moon. Find out more on addons section of palemoon web page.
You speak of trade. You progress to subject of trade war.
Then you proceed to cite example of Cuba.
Do you have any knowledge of history at all? Even school kids can usually sit down and tell you that Cuban missile crisis was about missiles and not trade.
Relevant numbers in an easy to parse - chart:
https://data.worldbank.org/ind...
This returns me to the "you can ignore reality, but you cannot ignore the consequences of reality". Even if you know you're not a witch, and sanity and logic clearly shows that you're not a witch, if your village overwhelmingly believes you're a witch, you're going to burn.
And all the logic in the world will not help you in denying the reality of being burned alive.
Which the my entire point in the nutshell. You cannot just say "well this is morally right from my perspective", while you live in a democratic country in a world with relatively open borders and where overwhelming majority finds your moral views abhorrent and thinks expression of these views should be punishable by the state.
I'll end this with an obvious point. Overwhelming majority of people on the planet find your views abhorrent.
And unlike people who share your opinion, their populations are increasing at significant enough rate to displace people like you in many of Western countries as a democratic force for change.
Let's hope that it is indeed you who gets the last laugh in the end. Against all odds.
Your claim of lack of empirical evidence is bold faced lie. You yourself already acknowledged such evidence above. It's a bit too late to start to pretend it wasn't presented.
As for the rest, well... You already demonstrated utter intolerance towards views that dissent from dogma you established, which borders on religious fanaticism in nature of immediately trying to condemn me in religious terms rather than addressing my points. It's the exact same process that, for example, Christian Inquisition used in dark ages to suppress dissenting views. Considering your insistence on this line of arguing, and utter dismissal of any attempts of mine to actually engage you in argument on merits, I suppose I have to concede. There is no way to reach a fanatic, until his absolute faith in dogma fractures from within.
Here's hoping that when this fracture come, it won't be from deeply personal tragedy as a consequence of items I noted above, a la Bataclan.
Reasonable explanation was in fact provided above. You chose to answer with black and white nonsense. There is zero arrogance in pointing out that it is in fact black and white nonsense.
All biological impulses are integrated into the structure of human society to some extent. That most certainly does not mean that said biological impulses are societal structures.
=
Otherwise you'd have to make claims such as those that "murderous rage is a societal structure", "anger is societal structure", "laziness is a societal structure" and so on. Just like the claim "homosexuality is a societal structure" all of them are patently absurd claims.
This brings me to asking you for the same question for the third time. Why are you conflating biological urges and societal structures. You have stated above that you think that distinction between the two is "artificial".
In what way? These are completely different subjects. One necessarily leading to another does not make one same as other. Just because adding two and two equals four does not mean that two equals four.
Am I understanding it correctly that you're saying that sexual urges are also societal structures?
I want to comprehend your argument. Can you please elaborate? It sounds frankly absurd on merits you're presenting it so far, so I assume I'm misunderstanding something.
Must be a strange world to live in, where there is only black and white.
Pale Moon had its own "fuck your addons, we know better" addon apocalypse event. They nuked all jetpack based addons, and then moved to a completely new engine. As a result, many addons no longer work, and of those that do, many gets few if any updates, as browser's own dev team members have to mess with code by hand to make each addon work on it.
Waterfox is a major question mark. They are extremely dependent on mozilla for delivering their browser. With Mozilla having dropped XUL, how they plan on supporting it is a big unknown.
Extensions that are relevant to many are not getting ported. New API is not able to support them in the form and functionality that they were supported on the old one.
Those of us on ESR waiting for quantum castration of this version are actively looking for replacement browser. There aren't that many choices unfortunately. But if one has to accept crippling limitations of webextensions, one may as well move to chromium-derivative browsers.
There is a reason why current free trade is set the way it is. Because US was the party that set it up in Bretton-Woods, and because for US, free trade is not about trade. It's about security. US itself didn't actually invest into the free trade mechanisms it created, and foreign trade as a portion of national GDP in US is very low compared to developed world average. As a point of comparison, even Afghanistan, a land locked, war torn country has a higher portion of foreign trade as national GDP than US. Look it up if you don't believe me.
And of that foreign trade, overwhelming majority is within NAFTA. I'll talk why in a moment.
Essentially US bribed together a coalition of the willing to fight Second World states by opening its markets to allies and neutral states. The only market that survived WW2 more or less intact. And it worked great. It won the Cold War. And ever since then, free trade has been coasting on inertia, with US still upholding the security apparatus that enables it to function, while having no security benefit from it any more.
And in the end of last year, the last primary chain that linked US to global trade markets broke. NAFTA as a region became a net exporter of oil and its derivative products. US is now in a position where it could have an absolutely devastating trade policy, and economically, it would only take a minor hit. The rest of the world on the other hand, having been built on the economic order that requires backing by the US security apparatus would likely collapse. Consider China for example. It is completely dependent on global maritime routes. At the same time it does not have any capability of guaranteeing security of any of the long haul routes. It is completely dependent on US good will in continuing its role as a security guarantor. Same applies to all potential major antagonists in a potential trade war - Russia, Germany, France, Brazil, etc. Name a major state, it depends on safe maritime trade, while having no ability to guarantee security for this trade against hostile state actors.
In this geopolitical situation, it's clear that renegotiation of free trade in relationship to US and services it provides to enable it will be required to keep US involved in the system. It will have to either be a new kind of a security pact, or it will have to be more of a give and take relationship. So far, Trump's actions indicate that he's interested in give and take. And make no mistake - this would have happened regardless of who got elected. Under Clinton, this would probably have been an eight year process with full powerpoint presentations and long and complex negotiations.
Trump is more impulsive and rash, so the process is moving much faster. But the push in this direction has been present ever since Soviet Union fell, and with shale severing that last link that kept US dependent on free trade as it is currently operating, current direction is inevitable.
We live in interesting times.
I would not attribute to malice what can be attributed to misguided desire to make a better world. Twentieth century is choke full of examples of such behaviour on part of societal elite. You need not go beyond the industry barons like Ford and Kellogg for examples of this.
You once again attribute negative factors to my personality to avoid addressing my point. Your intolerance for any views that do not match your religiously dogmaic views is unfortunate, and indeed reinforces the point I made above. I made no statement that can be even remotely described with your first sentence. You're literally fighting a caricature from your imagination and avoiding any kind of interaction with my argument. Read what I actually said and stop trying really hard to pretend that I'm something I'm not to avoid addressing my points.
On your second sentence, I will remind you once more that while you can indeed ignore reality, you cannot ignore consequences of reality. Such as school shootings like this one.