Over the course of the trial, and especially
having read the
findings of fact (everyone
should), it seems that by attacking the bits and
bytes of whether IE was 'integrated' or not
was pointless and got into technical points
where anyone can rationalize any point of
view. What matters is what the user is
presented when she gets a computer. She
is not likely to replace or install any
software without very substantial motivation.
This is Microsoft's advantage. With their
power over the market they can dictate to
the OEMs exactly how Windows and thusly
every bit of software (even other OS's, if
they are installed on the same model of
machine or even moreso if they are installed
dual boot) is presented. In their licensing
contracts to OEMs they have power to specify
almost anything, even down to forcing them
to use keyboards with ridiculous ergonomy-lessening
extra keys. This is how they have made
IE the de facto standard to the extent that
it is. No customer ever wanted IE to the
exclusion of Netscape, and yet that is exactly
what customers got.
This represents a huge area that OEMs could
innovate in: the interface and software
presented to consumers. On the road toward
viable other core OSs, allowing the OEMs
to alter the veneer of the software on their
machines is only the beginning.
Do you agree OEMs are the direct agent of
technically un-savvy consumers (read, 99.99% of
them)? How does the proposal give them
more freedom from dictatorial licenses and
how would you help guarantee adherence to it?
A somewhat more optimistic version,
one I thought was well known in Linux circles.
(I include Peter303's beginning, which is good
and which I had not heard.)
Three OS's from corporate-kings in their towers of glass;
Seven from valley-lords where orchards used to grow;
Nine from dot.coms doomed to die; One from the carefree student, at his icy home
In the bright land of Linux, where the Hackers play.
One OS to rule them all! One OS to find them!
One OS to bring them all, and in the darkness bind them,
In the bright land of Linux, where the Hackers play.
What if Microsoft promises some things about what
Passport is/will be to get out of trouble,
and then, once the smoke clears, designs it
however they want to?
I don't know whether too many other people besides Sony make flash video recorders, but I'm sure if they do, they don't use Sony's standard. I thought we were open technical standard promoters here. I'm not sure but the very fact that it's called "Sony memstick" doesn't make it sound open.
My point is compact flash and smartmedia is
much, much cheaper than memstick. While that doesn't make it better than a pcmcia disk in
video recording, only mentioning memstick does make flash sound worse than it is.
The prices of 128M compact flash and smartmedia flash ($70-80) have made me think a lot more about buying a flash mp3 player than a cd-mp3 player.
And it uses batteries slower. And I'm kind of
fetishist about small devices. And sure as daylight 256M parts will shortly become cheap too. Now if only someone would design an mp3 player which can ADDRESS a decent amount of flash. They seem to be limited in their maximum flash capacity, whereas the camera I bought 10 months ago can still take whatever huge size flash I put in it. Go figure, bad design.
The mp3 player makers think they're selling flash, and not good mp3 players. Imbeciles.
Enough said. Doesn't anyone actually want a
small laptop, between a vaio and a pda???
Basically a real machine you can easily carry
around? To have a machine one can carry around,
you HAVE to give up 1152x864 resolution and the
large panel size to make it worthwhile. A super
portable machine cannot be a graphics workstation.
It CAN be everything else, though, with models
like this Casio Fiva. AND it apparently can have
enough power to leave it on you, and running,
without hardly ever thinking about power (beyond
of course remembering to charge it when you
yourself recharge).
This is not your laptop, ok. There are already
TONS of laptops which have 10 inch screens, and
are as big as the screen. To get any smaller you
need a smaller screen. What's the matter with
a 10 inch VAIO that you seem to need to slam
this machine, as if it's trying to be a 10 inch
VAIO. It's not a 10 inch VAIO. It wants to be
smaller. I'm sorry if I'm repeating myself but
I can't understand why someone finds offense with
a laptop smaller than what they want when such
laptops as they want already exist.
Maybe you want a laptop which use some sort of
space warp of bag-of-holding effect. A roll-up
screen might be the best way. But those aren't
here yet, so we HAVE to give up mondo displays
to get to near-libretto size.
Microsoft told OEMs: "You want Windows, don't ship Netscape."
When everybody wanted Netscape and it was better
than IE. That's abuse of monopoly to harm
consumers and counter the will of the market.
What the hell else do we need to hang'em?
I agree with people's wariness of government
control, but turning around and saying that
MS did not do anything illegal in order to
get out of that is wrong!
Some person who likes being abused wrote:
It's hard to tell your
manager, that 'there no fix for the problem yet,
but it's expected in the next pre-patch release.'
That is just too stupid for words. What's the
matter with that given people all the time tell
their managers 'there's no fix for the problem yet,
but it's expected in the next service pack.'
OR 'there's no fix for the problem yet,
but it's expected in the next [insert patch method of favorite OS here].'?????????????
I know Michael didn't mean anything than to say that IE actually has larger market share and things don't look good for challengers. No one can argue against that, when I put it that way.
But Michael is a total fool for saying it the same way as Joe Columnist would put it "IE has won the browser war." I know he doesn't necesarily think that IE fairly won the war, or that it's a good thing that any browser should win any type of (expletive deleted)war and have a majority which would discourage further diversity, but he is a DAMN FOOL for using the same words that other people do (Joe Columnist) when they actually do mean that IE maybe won fairly and that single-product 'markets' are ever good.
I HAVE NO SYMPATHY FOR YOU PEOPLE ANY MORE!! You Slashdot editors bring the flames on yourselves!!
Tbird still has better performance.
At least for techies who know.
Tbird's (and Duron's) 200DDR bus *does* help memory access.
Tbird's FPU *is* much more powerful.
What Linux application actually uses SSE? (Which is the only reason any P3 vs Tbird benchmark *ever* shows a decisive victory for the P3.)
More generic x86 and FPU power, a larger cache memory, and faster bus, are all things which to geeks (at least this one) totally outweigh a 1 or 2% performance margin on SSE-enhanced MS Windows applications, not to mention the hideous price differential.
And finally, is the P3 1.13 even selling again, after having been recalled??? If it's selling again, can you actually FIND one on the street, or will it be another 3 months like it was with the 1.0G?? I mean wtf is the deal with writing this article??????
um, A. I keep my phone powered ALL the time. It stays powered while it charges at night. B. While its powered on, it has lots of little writing and stuff on it. This is a common-as-dirt Nokia 5160. This is a premature hyping of something. The MTBF is a SHOWSTOPPER. I only hope the people who want to sell this aren't as worked up about as a lot of us/.ers apparently are, cause they can't sell this and I hope they don't because that low MTBF is just a giant pain for everybody that helps no one.
I didn't like the idea of MacOS X *at all*, until I heard they ported Xfree to it. That is a Good Thing. We can very easily port Gnome and most other apps to it. We will be able to control it on the commandline (i.e. easy scripts, remote administration). If all goes as it seems to be headed, I AM going to be putting a Darwin entry in my GRUB (the boot loader I use, prettier than lilo plus some other advantages) menu.
Who cares if another decent Unix becomes mainstream, other than Linux. It may not happen that way, predicting the future is wild. But who cares? Mainstreaming unix is a Good Thing. And the mainstream users don't *have* to know its Unix, the way we know its unix.
Even over 28.8kbit, running your own server is better than having most ISPs host; and tho you may not have very fast remote access to your entire mp3 archive, you will have access to your entire mp3 archive, or whatever you want on your machine.
If you really don't want your stuff to be open to false accusations and paranoia, or if your stuff really is inflamatory, simply host it on your own box. Problem solved. The power of a free server OS.
"I am troubled byt the broader notion that Bezos and his industry are entitled to special protection"
That nearly knocked me out of my chair, too.
Thankfully this man is not part of the USPTO. I would hope that someone with such an assinine conceptualization of patent law (and the constitution is the prime patent law) is never ever part of the PTO.
He is basically saying patent law is something for an industry to be protected from! As if intellectual property is a natural law, acknowledged by the framers of the constitution! Patent law, because that is it's intent, by the founders themselves, is measured by how well it helps an industry and the entire economy, by way of giving special, unusual, temporary property rights to some individuals, sometimes! Stupid bs streaming lawyer!
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Over the course of the trial, and especially having read the findings of fact (everyone should), it seems that by attacking the bits and bytes of whether IE was 'integrated' or not was pointless and got into technical points where anyone can rationalize any point of view. What matters is what the user is presented when she gets a computer. She is not likely to replace or install any software without very substantial motivation.
This is Microsoft's advantage. With their power over the market they can dictate to the OEMs exactly how Windows and thusly every bit of software (even other OS's, if they are installed on the same model of machine or even moreso if they are installed dual boot) is presented. In their licensing contracts to OEMs they have power to specify almost anything, even down to forcing them to use keyboards with ridiculous ergonomy-lessening extra keys. This is how they have made IE the de facto standard to the extent that it is. No customer ever wanted IE to the exclusion of Netscape, and yet that is exactly what customers got.
This represents a huge area that OEMs could innovate in: the interface and software presented to consumers. On the road toward viable other core OSs, allowing the OEMs to alter the veneer of the software on their machines is only the beginning.
Do you agree OEMs are the direct agent of technically un-savvy consumers (read, 99.99% of them)? How does the proposal give them more freedom from dictatorial licenses and how would you help guarantee adherence to it?
Sincerely, Bryan Seigneur
A somewhat more optimistic version, one I thought was well known in Linux circles. (I include Peter303's beginning, which is good and which I had not heard.)
Three OS's from corporate-kings in their towers of glass;
Seven from valley-lords where orchards used to grow;
Nine from dot.coms doomed to die;
One from the carefree student, at his icy home
In the bright land of Linux, where the Hackers play.
One OS to rule them all! One OS to find them!
One OS to bring them all, and in the darkness bind them,
In the bright land of Linux, where the Hackers play.
What if Microsoft promises some things about what Passport is/will be to get out of trouble, and then, once the smoke clears, designs it however they want to?
It makes me think of this.
I don't know whether too many other people besides Sony make flash video recorders, but I'm sure if they do, they don't use Sony's standard. I thought we were open technical standard promoters here. I'm not sure but the very fact that it's called "Sony memstick" doesn't make it sound open.
My point is compact flash and smartmedia is much, much cheaper than memstick. While that doesn't make it better than a pcmcia disk in video recording, only mentioning memstick does make flash sound worse than it is.
The prices of 128M compact flash and smartmedia flash ($70-80) have made me think a lot more about buying a flash mp3 player than a cd-mp3 player. And it uses batteries slower. And I'm kind of fetishist about small devices. And sure as daylight 256M parts will shortly become cheap too. Now if only someone would design an mp3 player which can ADDRESS a decent amount of flash. They seem to be limited in their maximum flash capacity, whereas the camera I bought 10 months ago can still take whatever huge size flash I put in it. Go figure, bad design. The mp3 player makers think they're selling flash, and not good mp3 players. Imbeciles.
This is not your laptop, ok. There are already TONS of laptops which have 10 inch screens, and are as big as the screen. To get any smaller you need a smaller screen. What's the matter with a 10 inch VAIO that you seem to need to slam this machine, as if it's trying to be a 10 inch VAIO. It's not a 10 inch VAIO. It wants to be smaller. I'm sorry if I'm repeating myself but I can't understand why someone finds offense with a laptop smaller than what they want when such laptops as they want already exist.
Maybe you want a laptop which use some sort of space warp of bag-of-holding effect. A roll-up screen might be the best way. But those aren't here yet, so we HAVE to give up mondo displays to get to near-libretto size.
IBM? IBM *does* have people support quite a bit of open source software presently.
"You want Windows, don't ship Netscape."
When everybody wanted Netscape and it was better than IE. That's abuse of monopoly to harm consumers and counter the will of the market. What the hell else do we need to hang'em?
I agree with people's wariness of government control, but turning around and saying that MS did not do anything illegal in order to get out of that is wrong!
Some person who likes being abused wrote:
It's hard to tell your manager, that 'there no fix for the problem yet, but it's expected in the next pre-patch release.'
That is just too stupid for words. What's the matter with that given people all the time tell their managers 'there's no fix for the problem yet, but it's expected in the next service pack.' OR 'there's no fix for the problem yet, but it's expected in the next [insert patch method of favorite OS here].'?????????????
But Michael is a total fool for saying it the same way as Joe Columnist would put it "IE has won the browser war." I know he doesn't necesarily think that IE fairly won the war, or that it's a good thing that any browser should win any type of (expletive deleted)war and have a majority which would discourage further diversity, but he is a DAMN FOOL for using the same words that other people do (Joe Columnist) when they actually do mean that IE maybe won fairly and that single-product 'markets' are ever good.
I HAVE NO SYMPATHY FOR YOU PEOPLE ANY MORE!! You Slashdot editors bring the flames on yourselves!!
- Tbird's (and Duron's) 200DDR bus *does* help memory access.
- Tbird's FPU *is* much more powerful.
- What Linux application actually uses SSE? (Which is the only reason any P3 vs Tbird benchmark *ever* shows a decisive victory for the P3.)
More generic x86 and FPU power, a larger cache memory, and faster bus, are all things which to geeks (at least this one) totally outweigh a 1 or 2% performance margin on SSE-enhanced MS Windows applications, not to mention the hideous price differential. And finally, is the P3 1.13 even selling again, after having been recalled??? If it's selling again, can you actually FIND one on the street, or will it be another 3 months like it was with the 1.0G?? I mean wtf is the deal with writing this article??????THERE IS NO INNOVATION HERE.
- No technical innovation; it's a PC.
- No price innovation; it's $599. I *wish* my
computer, which can do all those things, could sell for that much.
- OEMs are already selling PCs, marketing them to do the exact things this is marketed to do.
So, it's not even *marketing* innovation.
You people are all silly.um, /.ers apparently are, cause they can't sell this and I hope they don't because that low MTBF is just a giant pain for everybody that helps no one.
A. I keep my phone powered ALL the time. It stays powered while it charges at night.
B. While its powered on, it has lots of little writing and stuff on it.
This is a common-as-dirt Nokia 5160.
This is a premature hyping of something.
The MTBF is a SHOWSTOPPER.
I only hope the people who want to sell this aren't as worked up about as a lot of us
I didn't like the idea of MacOS X *at all*, until I heard they ported Xfree to it. That is a Good Thing. We can very easily port Gnome and most other apps to it. We will be able to control it on the commandline (i.e. easy scripts, remote administration). If all goes as it seems to be headed, I AM going to be putting a Darwin entry in my GRUB (the boot loader I use, prettier than lilo plus some other advantages) menu.
Who cares if another decent Unix becomes mainstream, other than Linux. It may not happen that way, predicting the future is wild. But who cares? Mainstreaming unix is a Good Thing. And the mainstream users don't *have* to know its Unix, the way we know its unix.
If you really don't want your stuff to be open to false accusations and paranoia, or if your stuff really is inflamatory, simply host it on your own box. Problem solved. The power of a free server OS.
"I am troubled byt the broader notion that Bezos and his industry are entitled to special protection"
That nearly knocked me out of my chair, too.
Thankfully this man is not part of the USPTO. I would hope that someone with such an assinine conceptualization of patent law (and the constitution is the prime patent law) is never ever part of the PTO.
He is basically saying patent law is something for an industry to be protected from! As if intellectual property is a natural law, acknowledged by the framers of the constitution! Patent law, because that is it's intent, by the founders themselves, is measured by how well it helps an industry and the entire economy, by way of giving special, unusual, temporary property rights to some individuals, sometimes!
Stupid bs streaming lawyer!