When the tokens are merely figureheads who demean the office by reducing it to a "yes man" (or "yes woman") job, then they're a token and the job is a token.
This isn't that complicated: a "token" is a symbolic puppet. Bush has reduced the Sect'y of State job to a token job. First with Powell, who was fired when he started to conflict with BushCo's delusions. Then with Rice, who would never contradict her "husband". Their race gives them extra token bonus points for putting Black faces on TV, but without that troublesome Black constituency which dislikes Bush by 98%.
If they have actual power, demonstrated by exercising it independently, then they're not tokens. Neither Rice nor Powell make the grade.
What makes their patriotic self-interest in keeping jobs in their own American economy instead of overseas where workers unfairly compete without labor, environmental, political or economic protections into "racism"? The "radicals" who protest the WTO are more diverse ethnicly than either the foreign countries or America as a whole.
What kind of racism haunts your mind that you project it onto people who aren't racists?
You're the one who has failed to learn from this debate. You lose because you insisted on victory or battle, rather than the chance to learn, and got nothing. I have learned that you can't understand a simple risk analysis. I win because I'm not wasting my time on schooling you any more, and I'm still right.
It's useless to explain this to you. Every time I explain that Greenpeace is making the distinction between known risk and unknown harm, you just conflate them together and say that "there's no proof of risk", when there is.
I give up. Live in willful ignorance. Don't ask me for help when you get sick.
So you're laughing and gloating about how sane people are shouting at you insane Republican zombies that you're responisible for torture, unwarranted wiretaps, throwing the Afghanistan and Iraq Wars. And all you've got is "But Clinton...". I guess you're gloating that your boys managed to stop Clinton from doing much by impeaching him over a blowjob.
You are a terrorist. Laughing and gloating. Republican pedophile. I'd ask who raped you as a kid, but I'm not interested in knowing any more about your evil ass.
TrollMods are still rolling Reagan's corpse to protect Bush. Can't have people connecting the dots between Bush Sr's Iran/Contra and Bush Jr's Iraq by remembering Nixon, Reagan and Vietnam.
No, you are missing the point. The point is that there is proof that some chemicals are risky, even when the extent of harm is impossible to know until it's too late.
You are conflating the known risk and the unknowable damage to ignore the risk. That's a worse trick than trying to use water in an obfuscated form that everyone knows makes a relatively harmless chemical seem more harmful. All strawman tricks, none worthy of respect.
I appreciate your real insights into this problem. I always appreciate that we're all disabled in various ways when using compromised technology for sensory/manipulation.
But I wonder whether you're going to be better at giving up tactile feedback than someone like me, who's used to getting it all the time. Not just typing, but always using my hands that way. If I gave up all manual sensation, I'd connect differently to the world. I might not have the focus to compensate with hearing enough for the loss of the finger feelings.
Also, you are still getting the proprioceptive feedback of the 3D space of the real keyboards. I'd be really curious to see how you fared with this actual flat projection keyboard. And it's cool enough that I'll probably eventually find out for myself, despite my reservations.
I like the idea of freedom to carry just the one little mobile phone device. Since the keypad doesn't need anything but a responsive surface, maybe they can make a micrometer-thin film embossed with keybubbles that stiffly yield to presses. Thin enough to fold back into a tiny volume storeable in the phone. Useable when speed/accuracy are required.
There's surely some material that's stiff enough to resist deformation anywhere but locally, but flexible enough to compact, while yielding under a few grams finger pressure. Maybe an electrical memory-polymer (or nano equivalent) that plugs into the phone and automatically folds/rolls itself down.
That sounds like an improvement that will take 10-20 years to be cheap and common, especially since laser keyboards have taken over a decade to catch up with popular mobile devices.
I learned to write Grafitti by obsessively writing in the first few days I got one when they first came out. Grafitti is faster than regular writing (though not typing) because every character is a single stroke, much like the speed of cursive writing was a consequence of ballpoint pens.
But it's not the newness. I'm talking about the fundamental lack of the important feedback to the tactile sense. All those other new methods actually increased tactile feedback with the act of writing, by eliminating distracting other motion (eg. blotting) or increasing the freedom of movement while increasing efficiency (eg typing).
I never complained about typing being slower than penmanship, because it wasn't. This half-duplex keyboard is different.
"The I-Tech VKB reacts exactly like a real keyboard."
One of the reasons I type so much faster than I can talk is that I get so much tactile feedback from the physical keys on the keyboard. My hands know when I've mistyped usually before I can even see the difference on the display. A little lingering feeling in my hands that they've missed the pattern they were expected to type. Despite the simulated clicking sounds to my ear, I expect that I'll make a lot more mistakes on a keyboard which doesn't offer tactile feedback that I've hit a key, complete with a little "throw" through its unique 3D spatial path.
That kind of feedback is extremely important to using any device. It's why eliminating any grasped tool for purely gestural expression seems doomed inferior to actually touching something. Maybe just a dumb pad that gives just tactile feedback, without needing to deliver any sensory info back to the processor, is plenty to complete the loop. But just tapping my fingers on an unresponsive surface, or one different in shape/texture/response every time, will be much worse than typing on even a tiny crowded keyboard, or maybe even A9 keypad entry.
They blew that one too, with the Republican House leadership covering up their own boy rape. Republican Mark Foley immediately resigned after exposure by ABC News last Friday, but the rest of the Republican House that's so hot on their Homophobia Amendment and other gay-baiting still has their jobs. For another month, anyway, until they're all up for firing on TUE November 7, 2006.
We're not talking about the 1960s, or the 1860s when the Republican Party was so different than it is today that it was a Republican Lincoln who freed the slaves.
We're talking about Rice and Bush. And yes, putting incompetent Rice into the upper tier of power with a black female face does set back minority chances at being taken seriously. That's what tokenism does: it superficially innoculates the token wielder against charges of bigotry, while perpetuating minority exclusion from actual power. It's easy for bigots to explain Rice's incompetence "because she's Black/female", rather than the obvious "because she's a Republican figurehead". As usual with Bush, killing every bird in sight with one stone, as long as its politically beneficial to keeping Cheney wielding all power unopposed by anyone, even the Cabinet.
Oh no, I haven't forgotten (or forgiven) anything. I'm just pointing out how deeply snarky your snark really is, and how bad these Republicans really are, for how long.
BTW, I do forgive you for mistaking my playing along with being stupid. I do it myself sometimes, surrounded by so many stupid people who somehow haven't noticed Republicans raping our country.
Anonymous FASCIST Coward, you're supposed to call me a "Communist".
Gamblers should have body parts ripped out? That insane comment made me think you were joking. Then that bit about bingo and state lotteries not being gambling - still must be joking, no one's that stupid. But then "perfectly legal" making them not gambling made me start to think you really were raving mad.
Then that bit about "we don't torture", which must be true because you put it in boldface, and insisted with an exclamation point that other countries made it up. That's got to be a joke.
So I was laughing at you when you asked what are Republicans doing wrong. The gas prices manipulation by Republican Saudis made me think again, because that's not funny since it's true. Though that flat lie about jobs coming back to our country isn't funny because it's not true. Then you make a claim that's barely even parseable because it's so crazy, about Israel and Iraqi victories.
Then you get back onto the standard Republican "But Clinton..." nonsense.
The simple fact is that Republcian fascists are so stupid and crazy that they're indistinguishable from a mere Anonymous Troll Coward. George W Bush, is that you?
The important distinction is that Reagan was Bush Sr's puppet. Bush Sr ran the country for 12 years. The CIA he recovered from its complicity in Watergate and Vietnam (by running it after he ran the Republican Party under Nixon) was the CIA which allowed Iran's revolution and created the Afghanistan Mujahideen (including Osama and his Qaeda).
Bush knew. He ran the whole operation. And now, while his son diverts $3 TRILLION a year to his Carlyle Group global businesses, he's (still) cashing in while building an unmatched American dynasty.
You read more stories like this and your advice is to "vote Republican"? Haven't you noticed that the lip-biting buffoon runs the Republican government?
It's not clear tie info was enough to be taken seriously? We're discussing an article describing how the CIA chief and his counterterrorism chief jumped in their car to immediately meet with Rice. A tactic designed to underscore the immediately urgent and direly serious nature of the intel. And which serves now to underscore just how unserious and incompetent, if not actually complicit, was Rice's resistance to dealing with that kind of intel in the normal course of affairs.
She had experience in Cold War tactics against the Soviet Union. Exactly the wrong experience for either a Terror War or an Iraq War.
Though I guess running Bush's NSC staff is relevant experience in making your bones as part of the Iran/Contra operations. The players from whom moved from fringe criminals under Bush Sr to senior executives under Bush Jr.
It is hard to tell whether Rice would have been fired if she weren't Black/female. Because no one gets fired from BushCo, especially for incompetence. There's no standard of comparison.
She's not a beneficiary of "affirmative action". Affirmative action is a specific government program with specific rules and specific beneficiaries, who can be listed by name.
What you're talking about is "tokenism". Rice is a token black woman. Hired and retained for her loyalty and racial "diversity" bonus in the neverending Republican campaign season. Her incompetence is a bonus, because she won't make the kind of trouble her predecessor Colin Powell (another token Black hire) made, and she'll do a bad job of running the NSA or State Department, which lets Bush crimes run rampant without being managed out. Her tokenism works both ways, because any actual resistance to Bush policy, like Powell eventually started showing after unreasonably long and deep abuse, will be ignored by Republicans, because of her minority status.
Besides, you just made the point that she doesn't get grilled as hard as Cheney or Rumsfeld. They're not as incompetent or replaceable as her, but she doesn't get grilled as hard - that's preferential treatment of a token team member. Besides, none of these people get grilled hard at all, because they're all considered "one of us" by the Republicans and their corporate media.
It all boils down to the traditional ("Conservative") Southern culture of Blacks being important, even beloved, "because they know their place" - subservient to White men (and women), regardless of the truth.
These are the Sudanese officials that Bush protects from intervention in their government's ongoing genocide. The Sudanese officials making oil development plans with Cheney while he was running Halliburton in the 1990s. The Sudanese officials who built that "pharma factory" - pharmaceuticals are made from petro materials. The same Sudanese officials who Clinton fired missiles into. The Sudanese officials who were harboring Bin Laden that whole time.
Sudan's claims against Clinton are about as credible as Ahmed Chalabi, the Iranian spy who Bush trusted to design our Iraq invasion.
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When the tokens are merely figureheads who demean the office by reducing it to a "yes man" (or "yes woman") job, then they're a token and the job is a token.
This isn't that complicated: a "token" is a symbolic puppet. Bush has reduced the Sect'y of State job to a token job. First with Powell, who was fired when he started to conflict with BushCo's delusions. Then with Rice, who would never contradict her "husband". Their race gives them extra token bonus points for putting Black faces on TV, but without that troublesome Black constituency which dislikes Bush by 98%.
If they have actual power, demonstrated by exercising it independently, then they're not tokens. Neither Rice nor Powell make the grade.
What makes their patriotic self-interest in keeping jobs in their own American economy instead of overseas where workers unfairly compete without labor, environmental, political or economic protections into "racism"? The "radicals" who protest the WTO are more diverse ethnicly than either the foreign countries or America as a whole.
What kind of racism haunts your mind that you project it onto people who aren't racists?
You're the one who has failed to learn from this debate. You lose because you insisted on victory or battle, rather than the chance to learn, and got nothing. I have learned that you can't understand a simple risk analysis. I win because I'm not wasting my time on schooling you any more, and I'm still right.
Sun Tzu is dead.
It's useless to explain this to you. Every time I explain that Greenpeace is making the distinction between known risk and unknown harm, you just conflate them together and say that "there's no proof of risk", when there is.
I give up. Live in willful ignorance. Don't ask me for help when you get sick.
Oh, I love to talk about how BushCo knows Qaeda is successfully targeting us in Iraq and in our allies rather than inside the US. Thanks for the excuse.
So you're laughing and gloating about how sane people are shouting at you insane Republican zombies that you're responisible for torture, unwarranted wiretaps, throwing the Afghanistan and Iraq Wars. And all you've got is "But Clinton...". I guess you're gloating that your boys managed to stop Clinton from doing much by impeaching him over a blowjob.
You are a terrorist. Laughing and gloating. Republican pedophile. I'd ask who raped you as a kid, but I'm not interested in knowing any more about your evil ass.
"Hypocritical"? Consistency isn't required from the Bush Crusade.
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100% Flamebait
TrollMods call citing the 9/11 Commission report to debunk Sudanese liars in defense of a 2-term US president "Flamebait"?
They're not just Republicans, these TrollMods. They're the goddamn Qaeda. As if there were a difference.
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100% Troll
TrollMods are still rolling Reagan's corpse to protect Bush. Can't have people connecting the dots between Bush Sr's Iran/Contra and Bush Jr's Iraq by remembering Nixon, Reagan and Vietnam.
TrollMods want more of all that.
No, you are missing the point. The point is that there is proof that some chemicals are risky, even when the extent of harm is impossible to know until it's too late.
You are conflating the known risk and the unknowable damage to ignore the risk. That's a worse trick than trying to use water in an obfuscated form that everyone knows makes a relatively harmless chemical seem more harmful. All strawman tricks, none worthy of respect.
I appreciate your real insights into this problem. I always appreciate that we're all disabled in various ways when using compromised technology for sensory/manipulation.
But I wonder whether you're going to be better at giving up tactile feedback than someone like me, who's used to getting it all the time. Not just typing, but always using my hands that way. If I gave up all manual sensation, I'd connect differently to the world. I might not have the focus to compensate with hearing enough for the loss of the finger feelings.
Also, you are still getting the proprioceptive feedback of the 3D space of the real keyboards. I'd be really curious to see how you fared with this actual flat projection keyboard. And it's cool enough that I'll probably eventually find out for myself, despite my reservations.
I like the idea of freedom to carry just the one little mobile phone device. Since the keypad doesn't need anything but a responsive surface, maybe they can make a micrometer-thin film embossed with keybubbles that stiffly yield to presses. Thin enough to fold back into a tiny volume storeable in the phone. Useable when speed/accuracy are required.
There's surely some material that's stiff enough to resist deformation anywhere but locally, but flexible enough to compact, while yielding under a few grams finger pressure. Maybe an electrical memory-polymer (or nano equivalent) that plugs into the phone and automatically folds/rolls itself down.
That sounds like an improvement that will take 10-20 years to be cheap and common, especially since laser keyboards have taken over a decade to catch up with popular mobile devices.
And where are my VR 3D videoglasses?
More laughing and gloating about torture, unwarranted wiretaps, throwing over the Afghanistan and Iraq wars?
About ignoring bin Laden, as we're discussing in this thread, until he planebombed us and offered political cover for fascism?
You're a Republican pedophile.
I learned to write Grafitti by obsessively writing in the first few days I got one when they first came out. Grafitti is faster than regular writing (though not typing) because every character is a single stroke, much like the speed of cursive writing was a consequence of ballpoint pens.
But it's not the newness. I'm talking about the fundamental lack of the important feedback to the tactile sense. All those other new methods actually increased tactile feedback with the act of writing, by eliminating distracting other motion (eg. blotting) or increasing the freedom of movement while increasing efficiency (eg typing).
I never complained about typing being slower than penmanship, because it wasn't. This half-duplex keyboard is different.
"The I-Tech VKB reacts exactly like a real keyboard."
One of the reasons I type so much faster than I can talk is that I get so much tactile feedback from the physical keys on the keyboard. My hands know when I've mistyped usually before I can even see the difference on the display. A little lingering feeling in my hands that they've missed the pattern they were expected to type. Despite the simulated clicking sounds to my ear, I expect that I'll make a lot more mistakes on a keyboard which doesn't offer tactile feedback that I've hit a key, complete with a little "throw" through its unique 3D spatial path.
That kind of feedback is extremely important to using any device. It's why eliminating any grasped tool for purely gestural expression seems doomed inferior to actually touching something. Maybe just a dumb pad that gives just tactile feedback, without needing to deliver any sensory info back to the processor, is plenty to complete the loop. But just tapping my fingers on an unresponsive surface, or one different in shape/texture/response every time, will be much worse than typing on even a tiny crowded keyboard, or maybe even A9 keypad entry.
They blew that one too, with the Republican House leadership covering up their own boy rape. Republican Mark Foley immediately resigned after exposure by ABC News last Friday, but the rest of the Republican House that's so hot on their Homophobia Amendment and other gay-baiting still has their jobs. For another month, anyway, until they're all up for firing on TUE November 7, 2006.
We're not talking about the 1960s, or the 1860s when the Republican Party was so different than it is today that it was a Republican Lincoln who freed the slaves.
We're talking about Rice and Bush. And yes, putting incompetent Rice into the upper tier of power with a black female face does set back minority chances at being taken seriously. That's what tokenism does: it superficially innoculates the token wielder against charges of bigotry, while perpetuating minority exclusion from actual power. It's easy for bigots to explain Rice's incompetence "because she's Black/female", rather than the obvious "because she's a Republican figurehead". As usual with Bush, killing every bird in sight with one stone, as long as its politically beneficial to keeping Cheney wielding all power unopposed by anyone, even the Cabinet.
Oh no, I haven't forgotten (or forgiven) anything. I'm just pointing out how deeply snarky your snark really is, and how bad these Republicans really are, for how long.
BTW, I do forgive you for mistaking my playing along with being stupid. I do it myself sometimes, surrounded by so many stupid people who somehow haven't noticed Republicans raping our country.
Anonymous FASCIST Coward, you're supposed to call me a "Communist".
Gamblers should have body parts ripped out? That insane comment made me think you were joking. Then that bit about bingo and state lotteries not being gambling - still must be joking, no one's that stupid. But then "perfectly legal" making them not gambling made me start to think you really were raving mad.
Then that bit about "we don't torture", which must be true because you put it in boldface, and insisted with an exclamation point that other countries made it up. That's got to be a joke.
So I was laughing at you when you asked what are Republicans doing wrong. The gas prices manipulation by Republican Saudis made me think again, because that's not funny since it's true. Though that flat lie about jobs coming back to our country isn't funny because it's not true. Then you make a claim that's barely even parseable because it's so crazy, about Israel and Iraqi victories.
Then you get back onto the standard Republican "But Clinton..." nonsense.
The simple fact is that Republcian fascists are so stupid and crazy that they're indistinguishable from a mere Anonymous Troll Coward. George W Bush, is that you?
The important distinction is that Reagan was Bush Sr's puppet. Bush Sr ran the country for 12 years. The CIA he recovered from its complicity in Watergate and Vietnam (by running it after he ran the Republican Party under Nixon) was the CIA which allowed Iran's revolution and created the Afghanistan Mujahideen (including Osama and his Qaeda).
Bush knew. He ran the whole operation. And now, while his son diverts $3 TRILLION a year to his Carlyle Group global businesses, he's (still) cashing in while building an unmatched American dynasty.
You read more stories like this and your advice is to "vote Republican"? Haven't you noticed that the lip-biting buffoon runs the Republican government?
It's not clear tie info was enough to be taken seriously? We're discussing an article describing how the CIA chief and his counterterrorism chief jumped in their car to immediately meet with Rice. A tactic designed to underscore the immediately urgent and direly serious nature of the intel. And which serves now to underscore just how unserious and incompetent, if not actually complicit, was Rice's resistance to dealing with that kind of intel in the normal course of affairs.
How many Blacks and Women are part of Bush's Republican Party? Few. None independent - or they get fired, when they try.
How many Jews in Clinton's Democratic Party? Many.
Another "But Clinton..." fails from the Party which took over Washington to "change the tone". To whining.
She had experience in Cold War tactics against the Soviet Union. Exactly the wrong experience for either a Terror War or an Iraq War.
Though I guess running Bush's NSC staff is relevant experience in making your bones as part of the Iran/Contra operations. The players from whom moved from fringe criminals under Bush Sr to senior executives under Bush Jr.
It is hard to tell whether Rice would have been fired if she weren't Black/female. Because no one gets fired from BushCo, especially for incompetence. There's no standard of comparison.
She's not a beneficiary of "affirmative action". Affirmative action is a specific government program with specific rules and specific beneficiaries, who can be listed by name.
What you're talking about is "tokenism". Rice is a token black woman. Hired and retained for her loyalty and racial "diversity" bonus in the neverending Republican campaign season. Her incompetence is a bonus, because she won't make the kind of trouble her predecessor Colin Powell (another token Black hire) made, and she'll do a bad job of running the NSA or State Department, which lets Bush crimes run rampant without being managed out. Her tokenism works both ways, because any actual resistance to Bush policy, like Powell eventually started showing after unreasonably long and deep abuse, will be ignored by Republicans, because of her minority status.
Besides, you just made the point that she doesn't get grilled as hard as Cheney or Rumsfeld. They're not as incompetent or replaceable as her, but she doesn't get grilled as hard - that's preferential treatment of a token team member. Besides, none of these people get grilled hard at all, because they're all considered "one of us" by the Republicans and their corporate media.
It all boils down to the traditional ("Conservative") Southern culture of Blacks being important, even beloved, "because they know their place" - subservient to White men (and women), regardless of the truth.
These are the Sudanese officials that Bush protects from intervention in their government's ongoing genocide. The Sudanese officials making oil development plans with Cheney while he was running Halliburton in the 1990s. The Sudanese officials who built that "pharma factory" - pharmaceuticals are made from petro materials. The same Sudanese officials who Clinton fired missiles into. The Sudanese officials who were harboring Bin Laden that whole time.
Sudan's claims against Clinton are about as credible as Ahmed Chalabi, the Iranian spy who Bush trusted to design our Iraq invasion.