Shouting someone down, like the anonymous, unsupported, negative mods dumped on that post, is tyrannical. Actually disagreeing in a reply post, like yours, and like this one, is a free exercise of speech.
Free speech wasn't born yesterday, neither was Slashdot's moderation abuse, and neither was I. Freedom is not just an abstract legalism, but a way of life. Tyranny is a way of death. The distinction isn't always obvious, but it's not subtle.
An even better project would have NASA merely organize and sponsor a contest for people to compile such a DVD. Judged by Americans drawn by random lottery. Studios (large and small) could also improve their relationship with NASA and its archives, competing in association with individual compilers to produce the finished videos, from which winners would be mailed by NASA. Runners up could be distributed privately, as usual.
Such eyecandy could spike interest in the content. It would best be harnessed to a more open program of free/open tools and all the content, getting excited viewers to navigate models on our own, whether interactive DVD or PC/game console.
I'd love to see a real "Mr/Ms Universe" ("Captain Universe"?) competition among entrants from space efforts around the globe. The space race is telegenic, increasingly cheap and easy to telecast, and already paid for by most of us. There's lots of ways "the greatest show on Earth" could be produced and presented. It just takes one big launch effort, with a budget, infrastructure and planning. NASA is good at that. Making it look good for the audience requires feedback and professional experience. So let's get started!
Bush's Attorney General, Gonzales, wants to figure out how to twist any possible law covering journalism and national security into prosecuting journalists for publishing leaked info. Even though WWI, WWII, Korea, Vietnam, the Cold War, Iraq War Sr and Jr, were all fought well without jailing leak publishers.
Bush certainly has "a new kind of war" in the Terror War: our goverment is at war with our people.
And people wonder how Germans could have been so enthusiastic about Nazis. 5 tyrannical thugs against 3 patriots is good odds for a new reich, especially when thuggery escalates to the point of stealing the patriots' stuff after they're sent to concentration camps.
If only the Atlantic were so symmetrical. "Span" is described only as archaic when it's the past tense of spun, and not mentioned anywhere else, not even when listing conjugations of "to spin". Any citation of span as "past spin", so I don't sound archaic even elsewhere than America?
I was speaking of the original US copyright law, as I said. I did mistake its 14 year term for 17 years when I wrote, but, as you note, my 17 years are compliant with the 14 year minimum.
Of course, when anyone says anything, we mean what we think such a thing should be. I agree with the rights described and itemized in the US Constitution. As well as the American philosophy that rights are inalienable: granted by people's creator. American government philosophy doesn't treat with the definition or other characteristics of that creator, other than stating that it endows us with rights, and implicitly that it creates. But my treatment of the copyright as bounded by generational folklore is entirely consistent with the mechanics of human creation, long historical operation of copying by people without alienation of rights, and the natural perpetuation of society among all people.
Temporary government-protected monopolies on created work are a boundary condition of the rights to property and free expression. People naturally balance those rights when adopting popular expressions into nonproprietary culture. Our culture finds a single generation long enough to transform those expressions, which is balanced by the short time in which a successful expression adequately compensates expressors for their risk and work to incent such creation.
Others can think those rights are different, but they're wrong. I think:).
MTV doesn't play music recorded over 17 years ago, which is nearly all I'm interested in listening to. Original copyright law released all monopoly control of those recordings. By rights, I shouldn't have to pay anyone to listen to the folk music from the previous generation.
If the recording industry actually worked under that fair system, they'd have to sell a lot better quality new music to actually earn a living off current recording artists. Instead, they just rip off everything they possibly can, and pump brand new unlistenable crap at us.
I expect America to eventually become primarily a Hollywood image. We've already got a government pretend "news channel". I just think NASA should get in early, with a legit product, before every agency produces distorted propaganda direct to the people and no one believes it, no matter how high the production budget.
"The researchers found that once the plate was spinning so fast that the water span out to the sides, creating a hole of air in the middle, the dry patch wasn't circular as might be expected."
Every one of your trolls has a reasonable comeback that any adult would already understand, but who cares what you think anymore? If you're still spouting them after watching your Conservative revolution destroy the country and itself, you're a lost cause. You might have been born yesterday, but I'm not even bored by those poser "wedge issues". Try your concocted rightwing crank rage on someone who hasn't heard all the cover stories for fascism before.
"Reality has a well-known liberal bias." - Stephen Colbert
I think something like $1:DVD, including production and distribution, is close. If we send it to all 113M US households, it might cost something like $120M, or less than 0.7% of NASA's $16B budget.
If they included space models/video as datasets for an open source framework like Celestia, the return could be enormous. As usual with any well-communicated NASA program.
No, Anonymous chintzy Coward, I'm saying that people of the caliber required by the program we're discussing generally cost at least $100K, and are required in sufficient amounts that that average cost is meaningful.
Now I'm saying that your attempt to argue that the converse of my argument is false, therefore my argument is invalid, reveals one good reason that I'd bet you're not worth $100K:year. Anonymous dime a dozen Coward.
Are you qualified to advise the Justice Department, Judicial Branch, PTO - or even a single IP registrant - on serious technology issues, as this article refers to? If your tech qualifications are sufficient, your economics and business qualifications are abyssmal, if you're earning only C$11:h, and you think you're qualified. And that's the US government, not Canadian (with its respective economies and legal system).
Actually, the $1:DVD cost is probably right, if they mailed it in a paper wrapper with instructions. And though they'd probably have to mail only one to each household, which is about 113M. NASA's 2005 budget was over $16.2B. A $113M expense would be under 0.7% (<<0.005% of the Federal budget), which would deliver promotion of the rest of the budget's product to every citizen it's working for. Which would likely increase support for bigger NASA budgets and better national programs, reflecting Americans' actual prioritization of NASA work among all government work. And a Netflix type of distribution contract at competitive bid (including the USPS) would invest in American info distribution infrastructure.
Meanwhile, the Iraq War has cost at least $300B, and will likely cost at least $1T, not to mention diverting lots of other government productivity from other services. But Americans get to see the "best" parts of the Iraq War on TV, so it gets lots of promotion, while most of NASA's valuable and popular work happens in the dark.
So thanks for recognizing the thrifty economics of a program to educate every American about NASA's work. Your support for my NASA career is thoughtful, but certainly overkill. NASA needs more educated and communicative citizens like me, rather than extra on-budget staff. If they can perform promotion like the one I suggested, with such great ROI, in keeping with NASA tradition.
Useful technology people make at least $100K annual salary, and cost at least twice as much to support in infrastructure, benefits, management, etc. Even if the government has economies of scale that means people cost $150K. $5M pays for 33 people. If the program suffers from typical government inverted economies of scale waste, it could pay for less than a couple of dozen.
Meanwhile, the patent system protects $TRILLIONS in annual income for American (and global) corporations. They've got less than half a percent of the take to fix it?
Sounds like they're spending $5M on "educating" the public with propaganda that they're fixing the debased system, rather than actually making it reflect how intellectual property works in the modern world.
NASA should send a "Highlights" DVD to every American citizen every year, right before Christmas. Which includes a free login to a NASA video site. And a summary of the ROI on NASA expenses, as well as its tiny percentage of the budget.
I've told that to every NASA and aerospace exec I've ever met. Now I'll use the webform, too.
And nowhere to run - not Canada, Amsterdam, Oslo, Jamaica or even grad school. ROTC won't get you lynched, but it could get your skull blown, unless you score one of those groovy mercenary gigs. Then all you have to face is hellish memories in a nightmare world you helped dream up.
Invading Iraq has created lots more terrorists and terrorism, making Iraq even more dangerous than it was before we invaded. Invading Afghanistan has created mostly anarchy, and left the Taliban around to kill Americans and Afghans.
The smaller Army staff costs several times more in just Pentagon expenses. So Americans are paying lots more corporate welfare to defense contractors, and even less of it is providing work for regular Americans in military jobs. And it's making us more unsafe. Especially the thousands of Americans killed, and many thousands more maimed, whose lives are ended or ruined.
I didn't propose any "theory about the whole purpose of the war against the terrorists being a fabricated excuse to spy on Americans in different political parties" - you invented that claim as a strawman so you could pretend to win an argument. Nor did I make the claims that the government attacked the WTC or anything else. You are obsessed with government conspiracy, not me.
So I'm not surprised that you look for foreign terrorists to qualify as "domestic political enemies", when Republicans obviously attack Democrats at every opportunity. Because you're pumping the same tired illogical gibberish that's worn out its welcome even among most of your shrinking Republican zombie horde. We've had decades of experience watching the mostly fake Drug War, and now only a few years of the mostly fake Terror War, produced by the same American fascists, is using the same old tricks.
Instead of parsing everything for an opportunity to lie and repeat some stupid prattle you heard during your morning Republican AM talkradio drivetime, why don't you just open your eyes, and see how you're being exploited as part of a zombie network to attack the decent people just trying to live in a safe, sane America?
Now that the truth is so obvious to so many, you can go along with the sheep in the new direction, which is at least going towards shelter and protection, not the slaughterhouse.
Stopping terrorists means the Terror War funds dry up. Instead, you can spy on domestic political "enemies". Just like in the Drug War, where less drugs means less war means less funding, and you can't keep your population under surveillence.
Both those wars are unwinnable, never expected to win, designed and prosecuted by the same people, and directed against the naive American public - with foreigners as expendible props from Central Casting.
I did specify which license, by linking to the arguments about it. The second of the two linked pages even quotes the specific license's clause.
Having several CC licenses, only one of which is under discussion, does not mean that there is no such thing as a CC license. It means there are several such things as a CC license.
If you want me to take your advice, earn some respect by dropping the obnoxious, unearned condescension, the arrogance of ignoring the content you're criticizing, the basic failures of logic.
Recently I've seen arguments that the Creative Commons license is incompatible with Debian distribution, even if the code accompanying the CC content is GPL. That same argument seems to fault the CC license for its anticommerce clause.
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Shouting someone down, like the anonymous, unsupported, negative mods dumped on that post, is tyrannical. Actually disagreeing in a reply post, like yours, and like this one, is a free exercise of speech.
Free speech wasn't born yesterday, neither was Slashdot's moderation abuse, and neither was I. Freedom is not just an abstract legalism, but a way of life. Tyranny is a way of death. The distinction isn't always obvious, but it's not subtle.
An even better project would have NASA merely organize and sponsor a contest for people to compile such a DVD. Judged by Americans drawn by random lottery. Studios (large and small) could also improve their relationship with NASA and its archives, competing in association with individual compilers to produce the finished videos, from which winners would be mailed by NASA. Runners up could be distributed privately, as usual.
Such eyecandy could spike interest in the content. It would best be harnessed to a more open program of free/open tools and all the content, getting excited viewers to navigate models on our own, whether interactive DVD or PC/game console.
I'd love to see a real "Mr/Ms Universe" ("Captain Universe"?) competition among entrants from space efforts around the globe. The space race is telegenic, increasingly cheap and easy to telecast, and already paid for by most of us. There's lots of ways "the greatest show on Earth" could be produced and presented. It just takes one big launch effort, with a budget, infrastructure and planning. NASA is good at that. Making it look good for the audience requires feedback and professional experience. So let's get started!
I think you were wrong. Should I think you wrung?
Bush's Attorney General, Gonzales, wants to figure out how to twist any possible law covering journalism and national security into prosecuting journalists for publishing leaked info. Even though WWI, WWII, Korea, Vietnam, the Cold War, Iraq War Sr and Jr, were all fought well without jailing leak publishers.
Bush certainly has "a new kind of war" in the Terror War: our goverment is at war with our people.
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And people wonder how Germans could have been so enthusiastic about Nazis. 5 tyrannical thugs against 3 patriots is good odds for a new reich, especially when thuggery escalates to the point of stealing the patriots' stuff after they're sent to concentration camps.
If only the Atlantic were so symmetrical. "Span" is described only as archaic when it's the past tense of spun, and not mentioned anywhere else, not even when listing conjugations of "to spin". Any citation of span as "past spin", so I don't sound archaic even elsewhere than America?
I was speaking of the original US copyright law, as I said. I did mistake its 14 year term for 17 years when I wrote, but, as you note, my 17 years are compliant with the 14 year minimum.
:).
Of course, when anyone says anything, we mean what we think such a thing should be. I agree with the rights described and itemized in the US Constitution. As well as the American philosophy that rights are inalienable: granted by people's creator. American government philosophy doesn't treat with the definition or other characteristics of that creator, other than stating that it endows us with rights, and implicitly that it creates. But my treatment of the copyright as bounded by generational folklore is entirely consistent with the mechanics of human creation, long historical operation of copying by people without alienation of rights, and the natural perpetuation of society among all people.
Temporary government-protected monopolies on created work are a boundary condition of the rights to property and free expression. People naturally balance those rights when adopting popular expressions into nonproprietary culture. Our culture finds a single generation long enough to transform those expressions, which is balanced by the short time in which a successful expression adequately compensates expressors for their risk and work to incent such creation.
Others can think those rights are different, but they're wrong. I think
MTV doesn't play music recorded over 17 years ago, which is nearly all I'm interested in listening to. Original copyright law released all monopoly control of those recordings. By rights, I shouldn't have to pay anyone to listen to the folk music from the previous generation.
If the recording industry actually worked under that fair system, they'd have to sell a lot better quality new music to actually earn a living off current recording artists. Instead, they just rip off everything they possibly can, and pump brand new unlistenable crap at us.
I expect America to eventually become primarily a Hollywood image. We've already got a government pretend "news channel". I just think NASA should get in early, with a legit product, before every agency produces distorted propaganda direct to the people and no one believes it, no matter how high the production budget.
"The researchers found that once the plate was spinning so fast that the water span out to the sides, creating a hole of air in the middle, the dry patch wasn't circular as might be expected."
If only English were so symmetrical. It's "spun".
Every one of your trolls has a reasonable comeback that any adult would already understand, but who cares what you think anymore? If you're still spouting them after watching your Conservative revolution destroy the country and itself, you're a lost cause. You might have been born yesterday, but I'm not even bored by those poser "wedge issues". Try your concocted rightwing crank rage on someone who hasn't heard all the cover stories for fascism before.
"Reality has a well-known liberal bias." - Stephen Colbert
That's true, but we're discussing the claim that "AMD has long reigned the desktop CPU market". Not whether Intel rules, say, the stock market.
I think something like $1:DVD, including production and distribution, is close. If we send it to all 113M US households, it might cost something like $120M, or less than 0.7% of NASA's $16B budget.
If they included space models/video as datasets for an open source framework like Celestia, the return could be enormous. As usual with any well-communicated NASA program.
No, Anonymous chintzy Coward, I'm saying that people of the caliber required by the program we're discussing generally cost at least $100K, and are required in sufficient amounts that that average cost is meaningful.
Now I'm saying that your attempt to argue that the converse of my argument is false, therefore my argument is invalid, reveals one good reason that I'd bet you're not worth $100K:year. Anonymous dime a dozen Coward.
Are you qualified to advise the Justice Department, Judicial Branch, PTO - or even a single IP registrant - on serious technology issues, as this article refers to? If your tech qualifications are sufficient, your economics and business qualifications are abyssmal, if you're earning only C$11:h, and you think you're qualified. And that's the US government, not Canadian (with its respective economies and legal system).
BTW, that's "warehouse", "stationery", "executives".
Sounds like you've already exhausted your Peter Principle career momentum.
Actually, the $1:DVD cost is probably right, if they mailed it in a paper wrapper with instructions. And though they'd probably have to mail only one to each household, which is about 113M. NASA's 2005 budget was over $16.2B. A $113M expense would be under 0.7% (<<0.005% of the Federal budget), which would deliver promotion of the rest of the budget's product to every citizen it's working for. Which would likely increase support for bigger NASA budgets and better national programs, reflecting Americans' actual prioritization of NASA work among all government work. And a Netflix type of distribution contract at competitive bid (including the USPS) would invest in American info distribution infrastructure.
Meanwhile, the Iraq War has cost at least $300B, and will likely cost at least $1T, not to mention diverting lots of other government productivity from other services. But Americans get to see the "best" parts of the Iraq War on TV, so it gets lots of promotion, while most of NASA's valuable and popular work happens in the dark.
So thanks for recognizing the thrifty economics of a program to educate every American about NASA's work. Your support for my NASA career is thoughtful, but certainly overkill. NASA needs more educated and communicative citizens like me, rather than extra on-budget staff. If they can perform promotion like the one I suggested, with such great ROI, in keeping with NASA tradition.
Useful technology people make at least $100K annual salary, and cost at least twice as much to support in infrastructure, benefits, management, etc. Even if the government has economies of scale that means people cost $150K. $5M pays for 33 people. If the program suffers from typical government inverted economies of scale waste, it could pay for less than a couple of dozen.
Meanwhile, the patent system protects $TRILLIONS in annual income for American (and global) corporations. They've got less than half a percent of the take to fix it?
Sounds like they're spending $5M on "educating" the public with propaganda that they're fixing the debased system, rather than actually making it reflect how intellectual property works in the modern world.
NASA should send a "Highlights" DVD to every American citizen every year, right before Christmas. Which includes a free login to a NASA video site. And a summary of the ROI on NASA expenses, as well as its tiny percentage of the budget.
I've told that to every NASA and aerospace exec I've ever met. Now I'll use the webform, too.
And nowhere to run - not Canada, Amsterdam, Oslo, Jamaica or even grad school. ROTC won't get you lynched, but it could get your skull blown, unless you score one of those groovy mercenary gigs. Then all you have to face is hellish memories in a nightmare world you helped dream up.
Have a nice day!
Invading Iraq has created lots more terrorists and terrorism, making Iraq even more dangerous than it was before we invaded. Invading Afghanistan has created mostly anarchy, and left the Taliban around to kill Americans and Afghans.
The smaller Army staff costs several times more in just Pentagon expenses. So Americans are paying lots more corporate welfare to defense contractors, and even less of it is providing work for regular Americans in military jobs. And it's making us more unsafe. Especially the thousands of Americans killed, and many thousands more maimed, whose lives are ended or ruined.
I didn't propose any "theory about the whole purpose of the war against the terrorists being a fabricated excuse to spy on Americans in different political parties" - you invented that claim as a strawman so you could pretend to win an argument. Nor did I make the claims that the government attacked the WTC or anything else. You are obsessed with government conspiracy, not me.
So I'm not surprised that you look for foreign terrorists to qualify as "domestic political enemies", when Republicans obviously attack Democrats at every opportunity. Because you're pumping the same tired illogical gibberish that's worn out its welcome even among most of your shrinking Republican zombie horde. We've had decades of experience watching the mostly fake Drug War, and now only a few years of the mostly fake Terror War, produced by the same American fascists, is using the same old tricks.
Instead of parsing everything for an opportunity to lie and repeat some stupid prattle you heard during your morning Republican AM talkradio drivetime, why don't you just open your eyes, and see how you're being exploited as part of a zombie network to attack the decent people just trying to live in a safe, sane America?
Now that the truth is so obvious to so many, you can go along with the sheep in the new direction, which is at least going towards shelter and protection, not the slaughterhouse.
Yes, I did.. What are you, some kind of retard?
Stopping terrorists means the Terror War funds dry up. Instead, you can spy on domestic political "enemies". Just like in the Drug War, where less drugs means less war means less funding, and you can't keep your population under surveillence.
Both those wars are unwinnable, never expected to win, designed and prosecuted by the same people, and directed against the naive American public - with foreigners as expendible props from Central Casting.
Repeat after me: "click before talking".
I did specify which license, by linking to the arguments about it. The second of the two linked pages even quotes the specific license's clause.
Having several CC licenses, only one of which is under discussion, does not mean that there is no such thing as a CC license. It means there are several such things as a CC license.
If you want me to take your advice, earn some respect by dropping the obnoxious, unearned condescension, the arrogance of ignoring the content you're criticizing, the basic failures of logic.
Recently I've seen arguments that the Creative Commons license is incompatible with Debian distribution, even if the code accompanying the CC content is GPL. That same argument seems to fault the CC license for its anticommerce clause.
Aren't Intel's underpowered/overpriced CPUs outselling AMD's? Or are you just repeating the mistake I so clearly corrected?