"Says who? Show me something that says more than 50% of Slashdot visitors are in the U.S. please."
Maybe the fact that its in American english, on a us server, with a us domain and american editors. but most of all, and this is the real proof, the ads target Americans. If there were really more visitors from other countries dont you think it would be a waste advertising american products and services.
and.org is american just like.com and.net are. Other counties use a national suffix or things.co.uk instead.
probably a lot more if you can use it to get a lot of zombies and bots for DDOS attacks and SPAM. I'm thinking the SPAM alone should cover the cost if you can get an installed base quickly.
honestly it doesnt matter how good or bad vista is. you HAVE to buy it with a new PC there is no alternative unless you switch to a Mac. You could buy a new laptop and install linux and MS doesnt care because you paid for and bought vista.
In a nutshell we all know vista is monkey poo. We all also know it will be on every desktop in 2 years.
if basic functionality that was in the previous version and supposed to be in the current one is not there, then yes, it is horribly broken. As for rudeness, i called him a liar because this is a known bug thats been around since sql server 2005 was released. If he cant show how he got it to work, then he is lying. Its not an accusation, the query that is run is incorrect. How will it work for him and not anyone else?
sucks if you are using the development edition on your desktop and your new machine comes with Vista doesnt it? since this is the el-cheapo $18 developer edition, it is fully functional but does not support connections from other machines. There is no option to run it on another machine unless you use remote desktop.
No, it does not work. Stop lying. The Transfer SQL Server Objects task does not work and actually performs an incorrect query on the source database. You get a message saying the table you have selected to copy does not exist. This is knows as the transfer tables hell. example 1
and so on. Just go on google groups and you will see tons of people on the microsoft newsgroups why have been screwed over.
If you have figured out how to change the query that it performs, please let the rest of us know. If you cant do that show some proof of someone actually getting it to work.
Actually, not only does it not work with SQL 2005 but it doesnt work with SQL 2000 either. In fact if you try to install SQL 2000 on vista it will try to stop you with messages saying the software has been tested to be incompatible with Vista. MS has not gone on the record that SQL 2000 will NEVER work with Vista. They want everyone to upgrade to SQL 2005 and have no plans to fix SQL 2000. If anyone hasn't used SQL 2005, they have removed DTS packages and the replacement is so horribly broken that simple things like copying a table from one database to another does not work.
the libpng link was just to show that the transition from libpng2-libpng3 was not in 1999 like someone claimed. I've used all the major distros other than gentoo and none just work.
>Not as much as software maintenance on OS X. Consider: I can do "apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade", or I can follow the GUI prompts when Ubuntu automatically >finds updates for me. You have to spend a couple hours looking through every single app you have installed, comparing the version you have with the version online.
Where on a Mac do you have to look through every app? seems you have never used software update or mac update.
>I am not making this up, by the way. VLC's Universal Binary for OS X is a solid 22.7 megs. The VLC deb file (Ubuntu, i386) is 1.1 megs, because the rest of it is in shared >libraries -- most of which I'd already have.
Excellent comparison, one day you may want to install a new app thats not in ubuntu's repository that needs a different version of wxWindows than the one you have. You upgrade it and may break VLC. I install the other app and it works independently of VLC. How much does it cost? 20 mb. Since you used an example of a program that was not written in cocoa or carbon, let me show you my strawman. I have photoshop which runs natively with the existing libraries in OSX. I dont need to install every obscure package. For you to use photoshop you need to install wine. Fine. Then i use dreamweaver, great native version. You want to use dreamweaver, same thing, no dependency hell. However, you might need a separate version or configuration of wine. If it is a different version, thats gonna be a bitch isnt it?
Also, nearly all OSX software use built in functions provided by the OS and are written in either carbon or cocoa. This could easily be replicated with one version of gnome and one version of kde on a version of a distro.
Roll my own distro? why bother duplicating OSX when it already does everything I need it to do. Thats my whole point actually, in linux you need to focus on getting you OS work right rather than doing the task you set out to do. Its a time sink.
I know why you wouldnt really need reliable transport on voice data due to the hard real time constraints. Im more concerned with the flow control. UDP has nothing it is just data blasted on the network. a buggy protocol on top of UDP and enough people using it will bring us back to the internet crash of the late 80s. Seems like not every one remember the internet becoming unusable. There is a reason why TCP was revised to behave the way it does today. The older TCP didnt really scale up well.
didnt know skype was UDP based. Most do wonders to the quality of the network. Esp if there are bugs in the protocol being used. I remember the standard project where you need to implement sliding window and AIMD on UDP to mimic behavior of the dominant TCP variety. I also remember what happened when some kids messed up and started flooding the network with packets.
no i am just stating my experience with linux. Having used it since the early 90s, libpng3 was the final straw. I like your accusation that i dont know how to use linux. Calling me dumb is pretty good too. That really proves your point. I've been linux for ages and before that I used minix on a 286. I remember that the next time i'm writing a kernel module. Have you worked with any embedded platforms? have any idea what an ioctl is? dont lecture me about not being able to use linux because I like focusing on the task i am doing and not getting my OS to work.
This is exactly the kind of nerdy elitism i mentioned in my post. Unless you can figure out a tangled mess of libraries, you shouldnt be using linux.
how would your one line have fixed both the libc and glibc mess and the libpng2 and libpng3 mess. I used debian i know apt-get it didnt work and in finally decided to ditch linux.
"First and foremost, because some development libraries depend on libpng2-dev and others depend on libpng3-dev; since these two packages can *not* be installed at the same time, this means you have to install and deinstall not only libpng2-dev and libpng3-dev but also a bunch of other -dev packages which depend on those. "
Though it may sound familiar because the package management has barely improved since then
Linux has the most backward software installation management i have ever seen. I cant believe you folks are still talking about this.
i used debian linux for ages and then one day i said fuck dependency hell, im getting a mac. There is no technical reason why linux should have dependency hell. I get the impression the only reason it exists is certain elitist people want to make it difficult to use. Having all this dependency nonsense seriously raises the bar on who can use linux and I suspect there are people who like it that way. Unlike OSX and windows where installing is either drag and drop or a double click, in linux you need to know every obscure dependency the programmer used and find the version of that library to use with your binary. Fun!
Sure, apt-get helps, but personally, I stopped using linux when after finally getting through the libc vs glibc mess, only to encounter the wonder that is libpng2 vs libpng3. fuck you libpng. every app used a different version and since they were two packages which had the EXACT SAME FUCKING FILES IN THE SAME FUCKING PLACE, you cant install both at the same time. What did i do? in had to remoce libpng2 and all the apps the depend on it then install libpng3 install the app i wanted to use. When i was done I HAD TO FUCKING UNDO EVERYTHING and reinstall libpng to use my other apps.
At that point i gave up and dropped $300 on a used blueberry ibook on ebay. I've never looked back. Linux is in the stone ages. Even with GUI wrappers, software installation and uninstallation in linux is a nightmare. Its not hard to copy OSX, where a certain version of distro X is guaranteed to have certain base libraries (kde, gnome, etc) in a certain place. If you unzip gimp for example, no dependencies needed everything no in the base is in the package. It would require a culture change among developers and distros and that is unlikely to happen.
you have to keep in mind though that this is japan that we are talking about here. This is the same place where people will buy a console for a single game and then sell it back once they are done. Given 360 only has shooters, if MS cant come out with other games i supect that is what the fate of most of these blue dragon boxes will be.
you do know that psychology is a pseudo science and "American Psychiatric Association's DSM" is a load of shit. Take pshyce 101 and you will see how often things are added and removed from that guide simply for political reasons. So, last year you were sick, this year you aren't next year, who knows. Its a game more fun than any ARG i have ever seen.
Slashdot Mirror
Didnt the gizmondo try this already? look where they ended up.
manbearpig!!!!
seems you need to brush up on your english. I dont see where i said people who use a domain from a country must relocate there.
"Says who? Show me something that says more than 50% of Slashdot visitors are in the U.S. please."
.org is american just like .com and .net are. Other counties use a national suffix or things .co.uk instead.
Maybe the fact that its in American english, on a us server, with a us domain and american editors. but most of all, and this is the real proof, the ads target Americans. If there were really more visitors from other countries dont you think it would be a waste advertising american products and services.
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probably a lot more if you can use it to get a lot of zombies and bots for DDOS attacks and SPAM. I'm thinking the SPAM alone should cover the cost if you can get an installed base quickly.
yeah but most people who go to slashdot are in the US (see how it says slashdot.org and not slashdot.eu ) and EST is ahead of all other timezones here
can it run flash videos like youtube.
George castanza,, is that you? gave up on the human fund already?
honestly it doesnt matter how good or bad vista is. you HAVE to buy it with a new PC there is no alternative unless you switch to a Mac. You could buy a new laptop and install linux and MS doesnt care because you paid for and bought vista.
In a nutshell we all know vista is monkey poo. We all also know it will be on every desktop in 2 years.
it complains when you try to install enterprise manager. It might work but even ms says it is unreliable.
read the links i provided. copying objects with SSIS does not work in Sql 2005.
if basic functionality that was in the previous version and supposed to be in the current one is not there, then yes, it is horribly broken. As for rudeness, i called him a liar because this is a known bug thats been around since sql server 2005 was released. If he cant show how he got it to work, then he is lying. Its not an accusation, the query that is run is incorrect. How will it work for him and not anyone else?
sucks if you are using the development edition on your desktop and your new machine comes with Vista doesnt it? since this is the el-cheapo $18 developer edition, it is fully functional but does not support connections from other machines. There is no option to run it on another machine unless you use remote desktop.
No, it does not work. Stop lying. The Transfer SQL Server Objects task does not work and actually performs an incorrect query on the source database. You get a message saying the table you have selected to copy does not exist.
This is knows as the transfer tables hell. example 1
another thread
and so on. Just go on google groups and you will see tons of people on the microsoft newsgroups why have been screwed over.
If you have figured out how to change the query that it performs, please let the rest of us know. If you cant do that show some proof of someone actually getting it to work.
".Jane Fonda's workout video game"
the work being lunging forward to spit on a disabled vet. we could have the wiimote strapped to the neck
Actually, not only does it not work with SQL 2005 but it doesnt work with SQL 2000 either. In fact if you try to install SQL 2000 on vista it will try to stop you with messages saying the software has been tested to be incompatible with Vista. MS has not gone on the record that SQL 2000 will NEVER work with Vista. They want everyone to upgrade to SQL 2005 and have no plans to fix SQL 2000. If anyone hasn't used SQL 2005, they have removed DTS packages and the replacement is so horribly broken that simple things like copying a table from one database to another does not work.
Good thing there is windows server 2003 still.
the libpng link was just to show that the transition from libpng2-libpng3 was not in 1999 like someone claimed. I've used all the major distros other than gentoo and none just work.
>Not as much as software maintenance on OS X. Consider: I can do "apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade", or I can follow the GUI prompts when Ubuntu automatically >finds updates for me. You have to spend a couple hours looking through every single app you have installed, comparing the version you have with the version online.
Where on a Mac do you have to look through every app? seems you have never used software update or mac update.
>I am not making this up, by the way. VLC's Universal Binary for OS X is a solid 22.7 megs. The VLC deb file (Ubuntu, i386) is 1.1 megs, because the rest of it is in shared >libraries -- most of which I'd already have.
Excellent comparison, one day you may want to install a new app thats not in ubuntu's repository that needs a different version of wxWindows than the one you have. You upgrade it and may break VLC.
I install the other app and it works independently of VLC. How much does it cost? 20 mb. Since you used an example of a program that was not written in cocoa or carbon, let me show you my strawman.
I have photoshop which runs natively with the existing libraries in OSX. I dont need to install every obscure package. For you to use photoshop you need to install wine. Fine.
Then i use dreamweaver, great native version. You want to use dreamweaver, same thing, no dependency hell. However, you might need a separate version or configuration of wine. If it is a different version, thats gonna be a bitch isnt it?
Also, nearly all OSX software use built in functions provided by the OS and are written in either carbon or cocoa. This could easily be replicated with one version of gnome and one version of kde on a version of a distro.
Roll my own distro? why bother duplicating OSX when it already does everything I need it to do. Thats my whole point actually, in linux you need to focus on getting you OS work right rather than doing the task you set out to do. Its a time sink.
I know why you wouldnt really need reliable transport on voice data due to the hard real time constraints. Im more concerned with the flow control. UDP has nothing it is just data blasted on the network. a buggy protocol on top of UDP and enough people using it will bring us back to the internet crash of the late 80s. Seems like not every one remember the internet becoming unusable. There is a reason why TCP was revised to behave the way it does today. The older TCP didnt really scale up well.
didnt know skype was UDP based. Most do wonders to the quality of the network. Esp if there are bugs in the protocol being used. I remember the standard project where you need to implement sliding window and AIMD on UDP to mimic behavior of the dominant TCP variety. I also remember what happened when some kids messed up and started flooding the network with packets.
no i am just stating my experience with linux. Having used it since the early 90s, libpng3 was the final straw. I like your accusation that i dont know how to use linux. Calling me dumb is pretty good too. That really proves your point. I've been linux for ages and before that I used minix on a 286. I remember that the next time i'm writing a kernel module. Have you worked with any embedded platforms? have any idea what an ioctl is? dont lecture me about not being able to use linux because I like focusing on the task i am doing and not getting my OS to work.
This is exactly the kind of nerdy elitism i mentioned in my post. Unless you can figure out a tangled mess of libraries, you shouldnt be using linux.
BTW why are you posing as an AC? go home troll.
how would your one line have fixed both the libc and glibc mess and the libpng2 and libpng3 mess. I used debian i know apt-get it didnt work and in finally decided to ditch linux.
right, because libpng2-3 really happened in 1999 instead of say, 2002-2003t ion.txt
m sg00015.html
http://people.debian.org/~mmagallo/png/png-transi
http://lists.debian.org/debian-gtk-gnome/2002/01/
i love this part in the first link though,
"First and foremost, because some development libraries depend on
libpng2-dev and others depend on libpng3-dev; since these two packages
can *not* be installed at the same time, this means you have to install
and deinstall not only libpng2-dev and libpng3-dev but also a bunch of
other -dev packages which depend on those.
"
Though it may sound familiar because the package management has barely improved since then
Linux has the most backward software installation management i have ever seen. I cant believe you folks are still talking about this.
i used debian linux for ages and then one day i said fuck dependency hell, im getting a mac. There is no technical reason why linux should have dependency hell. I get the impression the only reason it exists is certain elitist people want to make it difficult to use. Having all this dependency nonsense seriously raises the bar on who can use linux and I suspect there are people who like it that way. Unlike OSX and windows where installing is either drag and drop or a double click, in linux you need to know every obscure dependency the programmer used and find the version of that library to use with your binary. Fun!
Sure, apt-get helps, but personally, I stopped using linux when after finally getting through the libc vs glibc mess, only to encounter the wonder that is libpng2 vs libpng3. fuck you libpng. every app used a different version and since they were two packages which had the EXACT SAME FUCKING FILES IN THE SAME FUCKING PLACE, you cant install both at the same time. What did i do? in had to remoce libpng2 and all the apps the depend on it then install libpng3 install the app i wanted to use. When i was done I HAD TO FUCKING UNDO EVERYTHING and reinstall libpng to use my other apps.
At that point i gave up and dropped $300 on a used blueberry ibook on ebay. I've never looked back. Linux is in the stone ages. Even with GUI wrappers, software installation and uninstallation in linux is a nightmare. Its not hard to copy OSX, where a certain version of distro X is guaranteed to have certain base libraries (kde, gnome, etc) in a certain place. If you unzip gimp for example, no dependencies needed everything no in the base is in the package. It would require a culture change among developers and distros and that is unlikely to happen.
you have to keep in mind though that this is japan that we are talking about here. This is the same place where people will buy a console for a single game and then sell it back once they are done. Given 360 only has shooters, if MS cant come out with other games i supect that is what the fate of most of these blue dragon boxes will be.
you do know that psychology is a pseudo science and "American Psychiatric Association's DSM" is a load of shit. Take pshyce 101 and you will see how often things are added and removed from that guide simply for political reasons. So, last year you were sick, this year you aren't next year, who knows. Its a game more fun than any ARG i have ever seen.