So THAT's why they've created these 6 DNSSec "Internet keys"! They plan to destroy all Internet and then recreate it again, pure and obedient, free from uncontrollable flaws! And at some point there will be this guy, who'll discover that they did it five times already... oh, wait, wrong storyline.
Well, then you'll probably won't like Buddhism as a religion. With all their reincarnation thing you can't possibly escape those horrendous butt plugs.
On the other hand, as a Buddhist you'll probably just accept it calmly, knowing it's all is just some sort of a karmic lesson or something. Anyway, I'm personally waiting for 2012. It seems that Mayans were smart enough to end their civilization well before today.
Well, it seems that there's more than one man with such issues here - look at comments above. I don't even know is it troubling or relaxing - knowing that most of these people are just harmless geeks in this "cold, brutal and cruel" life )
Look, how many "real men" shows their knowledge of "real world" in comments above. Interesting thing is that several real war-veterans I've encountered in my life weren't afraid to show how much they enjoyed simple pleasures of life. War, murder, gore - it's really a small part of our life, and men who really faced them are always trying to walk away from them into the "normal life". Otherwise they'll just become broken or completely crazy men - and they feel it always. So, any person claiming it's knowledge of "real face of life" (and assuming it's just pure terror and gore) is just showing his complete lack of real experience... or some troubling psychical "quirks".
There is a much easier way - every human being has an extremely dangerous trait called 'imagination', or something like that. Of course, since corporate lawyers and mafiaas-caps are clearly not 'human beings', they view this trait only in negative way, unable to comprehend it's usefulness. So, they'll just charge every one of us for a capability to replay any melody we've heard in our life any time we want in our imagination. A logical step after charging additional fees for blank DVD-s and flash-drives, is it not?
There is an old Russian proverb: "fear has the biggest eyes". If they do really believe their own words, they must be on the edge of dying from fear. Good sign, right?
Oh, that's easy. They'll just negotiate new meanings of words, like this:
Freedom - licensed ability to use product, service or feature*.
Speech - licensed ability to use copyrighted words and symbols of $language_of_choice for intercommunication**.
* Subscription plans for advanced "freedoms" are available to premium users. Basic "freedom" pack includes a "freedom" to pay for services/products/features and "freedom" to consume advertising.
** Basic license grants ability to intercommunicate only with one other person. Mass intercommunication (with 2 or more persons at once) available only to premium users.
After that you can enjoy your "freedom" of "speech" as much as you wish.***
***After exceeding a prepaid limit of enjoyment additional fees will be charged.
Now the whole picture looks even more funny - as I can see it, in US there are fundamentalist "christian" nutballs, complaining about them being a minority in a "sinful" world; then there's an atheistic pseudo-intellectual smartass society, complaining about them being a minority in a "world where reason and logic are scarce"; and then there's a real minority of reasonable, thinking and non-agitated men listening to flamewars of first two groups with a silent facepalm.
Now, what would be the next iteration? Buddhist's "calm down guys, you're all speaking the truth, relax already"?
There's another interesting version of this story in Neil Gaiman's "Sandman" - book called "August", IIRC. Now I always think about the fall of the Roman Empire with a little chuckle.
No, I think he spelled it right, and he didn't meant "farce" at all. It's just like (quoting Terry Pratchett's books) the word "wizard" originated from the ancient "wyz-ars", meaning "someone who, at bottom, is very smart." So, as it seems, "farse" is just some obscure obscenity.
I've tested three major Russian Internet providers recently - Wikileaks opens just fine with all of them. On the other hand, I still haven't heard of even one case of blocking any sites in Russia. In this country it's much easier to physically assault owners of 'inappropriate' resourse, I suppose, but still I can't remember even one example of it.
Oh, wait, I think I've just broken some sort of rule like 'Russians are evil / Russia is a dictatorship'... errr... sorry... 'all your base are belong to us', anyone?
Well, dihydrogen monoxide is nothing compared to vile and treacherous hydrogen hydroxide, that's for sure, and it's still not banned! Someone need to do something immediately!
Ah, rephrasing old quote: "God, please help science lose such 'friends and protectors', and it will deal with it's 'enemies' perfectly by itself". Arrogance and strange, out-of-context metaphors are so 'scientific', of course. Speaking of great scientist - most of them were arrogant and passionate when someone has touched their favorite theories, but accepted 'skepticism' very well - they believed in their truth enough. Funny fact, speaking of Newton - he developed his theories as a part of his own 'proof of God's existence' - and we discard that part of his work completely. As a Leibniz's, Descartes's, Planck's, Pauli's and many other greater minds of their time.
If more scientists were just working hard on their theories, and supported with this work their beliefs, instead of throwing childish insults at each other, who knows what technical (and maybe ethical) heights would've been available to us today? Oh well, we'll have to do with what we have today, it seems.
And pretty creative at the same time - I think there are much more "Neos" in the Internet then even the "Anonymous", so being "Neo" is more anonymous than even "Anonymous" themselves. If not practical, it is still stylish in some way )
I haven't said that it is, I've said that it could be. But, in short - it's personal experience and beliefs. Of course, it's not a valid argument in modern science. After all, people tend to believe in more or less 'hard' evidence, proper theories and peer-reviewed articles, as it should be - we don't need any more blind faith, that's true.
But I don't have a team of brilliant scientists, proper funding, laboratory with modern equipment and connections in academical circles to present my evidence-proven theories to the world. I have only my own life, and my own 'spirituality' (which is somewhere between agnosticism and gnosticism, and not even close to any official religion), and I like how they work together )
By the way, reading articles about Newton, Leibniz, Planck, Pauli, C. G. Jung and others I think that it's not such a bad company to belong to )
Okey, where do I apply for Google Citizenship? Are there any invites available?
Seriously, at this pace, some decades later we'll have Google Phone with Google Voice, and Google Netbook with Google OS, connected to Google ISP, Google Work, Google Home, Google VR (on a base of Google Earth), Google Church and Google Transport, working on some green Google Energy. What will it be in all, Google Benefaction? Unnerving, but still much better than M$ Empire, Apple Khalifat, or GNU/Anarchy to my taste.
I agree with you absolutely. It's always puzzled me, how often people mix and confuse terms and definitions - 'spirituality' and' religion', 'religion' and 'catholicism', 'catholicism' and 'bat-shit crazy orthodoxal cults', piling them all together. By the way, 'agnostics' are, by original definition, spiritualists too - but 'agnosticism' and 'atheism' are mixed so badly, that now it sounds ridiculous.
I am, personally, do believe that science and scientists will someday recover and reclaim 'spiritualism' from all fanatics - religious and atheist alike. Putting emotions aside and calmly trying to understand 'how it all works' - that's what scientists do. And many great scientists of their time weren't atheists - from Newton and Leibniz to Bohr and Pauli. Quite contrary, their deep and clear understanding of nature's underlying mechanics lead them to aesthetic fascination with it's simplicity and beauty, which makes them much more spiritual people then some 'TV preachers'. If we knew more about their personalities, not only about their theories, maybe today we wouldn't spend so much time on such meaningless 'holywars'... joining our strengths in bashing Microsoft and RIAA, how it should be )
Right, and lightning ball is "just a stable ball of cold plasma". Defining something is not explaining something. So, researchers found some correlation between still-mostly-unknown brain functionality and even-more-unknown human psyche. Yay, good news, seriously, but hardly an 'explanation' to me. And most surely not the 'only explanation'. Why reality of something must automatically discard reality of something else? While I accept and agree with results of mentioned research, I don't feel qualified enough to declare 'spirituality' only a physiological phenomenon.
My old physics prof used to say "There are still many things in modern science that only fresh graduates can 'explain'. Because more experienced scientists don't take them as 'explanations', they take them as 'theories' and 'axioms', nothing more." And Niels Bohr used to say "It is wrong to think that the task of physics is to find out how nature is. Physics concerns what we can say about nature."
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So THAT's why they've created these 6 DNSSec "Internet keys"! They plan to destroy all Internet and then recreate it again, pure and obedient, free from uncontrollable flaws! And at some point there will be this guy, who'll discover that they did it five times already... oh, wait, wrong storyline.
Well, then you'll probably won't like Buddhism as a religion. With all their reincarnation thing you can't possibly escape those horrendous butt plugs.
On the other hand, as a Buddhist you'll probably just accept it calmly, knowing it's all is just some sort of a karmic lesson or something. Anyway, I'm personally waiting for 2012. It seems that Mayans were smart enough to end their civilization well before today.
+6 Hilarious, man :)
Well, it seems that there's more than one man with such issues here - look at comments above. I don't even know is it troubling or relaxing - knowing that most of these people are just harmless geeks in this "cold, brutal and cruel" life )
Look, how many "real men" shows their knowledge of "real world" in comments above. Interesting thing is that several real war-veterans I've encountered in my life weren't afraid to show how much they enjoyed simple pleasures of life. War, murder, gore - it's really a small part of our life, and men who really faced them are always trying to walk away from them into the "normal life". Otherwise they'll just become broken or completely crazy men - and they feel it always. So, any person claiming it's knowledge of "real face of life" (and assuming it's just pure terror and gore) is just showing his complete lack of real experience... or some troubling psychical "quirks".
Yeah, GP should have been moderated "Insightful", not "Informative", right?
There is a much easier way - every human being has an extremely dangerous trait called 'imagination', or something like that. Of course, since corporate lawyers and mafiaas-caps are clearly not 'human beings', they view this trait only in negative way, unable to comprehend it's usefulness. So, they'll just charge every one of us for a capability to replay any melody we've heard in our life any time we want in our imagination. A logical step after charging additional fees for blank DVD-s and flash-drives, is it not?
There is an old Russian proverb: "fear has the biggest eyes". If they do really believe their own words, they must be on the edge of dying from fear. Good sign, right?
Oh, that's easy. They'll just negotiate new meanings of words, like this:
Freedom - licensed ability to use product, service or feature*.
Speech - licensed ability to use copyrighted words and symbols of $language_of_choice for intercommunication**.
* Subscription plans for advanced "freedoms" are available to premium users. Basic "freedom" pack includes a "freedom" to pay for services/products/features and "freedom" to consume advertising.
** Basic license grants ability to intercommunicate only with one other person. Mass intercommunication (with 2 or more persons at once) available only to premium users.
After that you can enjoy your "freedom" of "speech" as much as you wish.***
***After exceeding a prepaid limit of enjoyment additional fees will be charged.
Now the whole picture looks even more funny - as I can see it, in US there are fundamentalist "christian" nutballs, complaining about them being a minority in a "sinful" world; then there's an atheistic pseudo-intellectual smartass society, complaining about them being a minority in a "world where reason and logic are scarce"; and then there's a real minority of reasonable, thinking and non-agitated men listening to flamewars of first two groups with a silent facepalm.
Now, what would be the next iteration? Buddhist's "calm down guys, you're all speaking the truth, relax already"?
Ha! SC2 always was StarControl 2 and nothing else! All this modern "StarCraft" thing is too young to have it's own acronym yet.
Now, what was that phrase about my lawn? Eh, it's hard to follow trends in this millenia...
There's another interesting version of this story in Neil Gaiman's "Sandman" - book called "August", IIRC. Now I always think about the fall of the Roman Empire with a little chuckle.
No, I think he spelled it right, and he didn't meant "farce" at all. It's just like (quoting Terry Pratchett's books) the word "wizard" originated from the ancient "wyz-ars", meaning "someone who, at bottom, is very smart." So, as it seems, "farse" is just some obscure obscenity.
He's childish, submissive to his hot wife, and dead? Does this count?
I've tested three major Russian Internet providers recently - Wikileaks opens just fine with all of them. On the other hand, I still haven't heard of even one case of blocking any sites in Russia. In this country it's much easier to physically assault owners of 'inappropriate' resourse, I suppose, but still I can't remember even one example of it.
Oh, wait, I think I've just broken some sort of rule like 'Russians are evil / Russia is a dictatorship'... errr... sorry... 'all your base are belong to us', anyone?
Sorry, Apple already copyrighted it's CEO...
Well, dihydrogen monoxide is nothing compared to vile and treacherous hydrogen hydroxide, that's for sure, and it's still not banned! Someone need to do something immediately!
Ah, rephrasing old quote: "God, please help science lose such 'friends and protectors', and it will deal with it's 'enemies' perfectly by itself". Arrogance and strange, out-of-context metaphors are so 'scientific', of course. Speaking of great scientist - most of them were arrogant and passionate when someone has touched their favorite theories, but accepted 'skepticism' very well - they believed in their truth enough. Funny fact, speaking of Newton - he developed his theories as a part of his own 'proof of God's existence' - and we discard that part of his work completely. As a Leibniz's, Descartes's, Planck's, Pauli's and many other greater minds of their time.
If more scientists were just working hard on their theories, and supported with this work their beliefs, instead of throwing childish insults at each other, who knows what technical (and maybe ethical) heights would've been available to us today? Oh well, we'll have to do with what we have today, it seems.
And pretty creative at the same time - I think there are much more "Neos" in the Internet then even the "Anonymous", so being "Neo" is more anonymous than even "Anonymous" themselves. If not practical, it is still stylish in some way )
...but anyway, how it would be in Hungarian for "My cars joining with delight!"?
I haven't said that it is, I've said that it could be. But, in short - it's personal experience and beliefs. Of course, it's not a valid argument in modern science. After all, people tend to believe in more or less 'hard' evidence, proper theories and peer-reviewed articles, as it should be - we don't need any more blind faith, that's true.
But I don't have a team of brilliant scientists, proper funding, laboratory with modern equipment and connections in academical circles to present my evidence-proven theories to the world. I have only my own life, and my own 'spirituality' (which is somewhere between agnosticism and gnosticism, and not even close to any official religion), and I like how they work together )
By the way, reading articles about Newton, Leibniz, Planck, Pauli, C. G. Jung and others I think that it's not such a bad company to belong to )
Okey, where do I apply for Google Citizenship? Are there any invites available?
Seriously, at this pace, some decades later we'll have Google Phone with Google Voice, and Google Netbook with Google OS, connected to Google ISP, Google Work, Google Home, Google VR (on a base of Google Earth), Google Church and Google Transport, working on some green Google Energy. What will it be in all, Google Benefaction? Unnerving, but still much better than M$ Empire, Apple Khalifat, or GNU/Anarchy to my taste.
Assume any given case ambivalent?
I agree with you absolutely. It's always puzzled me, how often people mix and confuse terms and definitions - 'spirituality' and' religion', 'religion' and 'catholicism', 'catholicism' and 'bat-shit crazy orthodoxal cults', piling them all together. By the way, 'agnostics' are, by original definition, spiritualists too - but 'agnosticism' and 'atheism' are mixed so badly, that now it sounds ridiculous.
I am, personally, do believe that science and scientists will someday recover and reclaim 'spiritualism' from all fanatics - religious and atheist alike. Putting emotions aside and calmly trying to understand 'how it all works' - that's what scientists do. And many great scientists of their time weren't atheists - from Newton and Leibniz to Bohr and Pauli. Quite contrary, their deep and clear understanding of nature's underlying mechanics lead them to aesthetic fascination with it's simplicity and beauty, which makes them much more spiritual people then some 'TV preachers'. If we knew more about their personalities, not only about their theories, maybe today we wouldn't spend so much time on such meaningless 'holywars'... joining our strengths in bashing Microsoft and RIAA, how it should be )
Right, and lightning ball is "just a stable ball of cold plasma". Defining something is not explaining something. So, researchers found some correlation between still-mostly-unknown brain functionality and even-more-unknown human psyche. Yay, good news, seriously, but hardly an 'explanation' to me. And most surely not the 'only explanation'. Why reality of something must automatically discard reality of something else? While I accept and agree with results of mentioned research, I don't feel qualified enough to declare 'spirituality' only a physiological phenomenon.
My old physics prof used to say "There are still many things in modern science that only fresh graduates can 'explain'. Because more experienced scientists don't take them as 'explanations', they take them as 'theories' and 'axioms', nothing more." And Niels Bohr used to say "It is wrong to think that the task of physics is to find out how nature is. Physics concerns what we can say about nature."