MS will be found guilty and given the biggest fine ever. MS appeal - and the appeal process takes forever - RealPlayer fades away (nobody notices or cares)- Bill Gates donates $100M to fight AIDS in eastern Europe and is lauded as Europe's hero, a selfless white knight whose moral integrity should never be questioned again.
Whoa! Slow down there, Mystic Meg!:)
I think you're getting a bit ahead of yourself. Sure, the EU beaurocracy is slow, but I think that in this case there may be more effort going into the proceedings. And Real ain't going away anytime soon, either. As for Bill's charitable activities, well good for him, but it won't make him a white knight if the press in Europe have any say in the matter... *grin*
Probably part of a secret Italian masterplan to construct a team of surgically-enhanced soccer players capable of nailing the French come the next European Cup...:)
In the UK, most people who have broadband service receive it either through as ISP, who in turn use either BT (DSL) or one of the two cable operators, NTL and Telewest (Cable Modem/STB). A lot, like me, probable go direct through the service provider (in my case, NTL).
AOL UK has recently started offering broadband services, through BT, but I've yet to see any figures on how much success they've had with it. MSN UK haven't made any moves on that front yet.
Recently, the RIAA's number one purpose has been to serve as a lightning rod, drawing criticism away from the big record labels. As long as all of you were shouting "fuck Hillary Rosen," she was doing her job, which was to keep the actual assholes behind shutting down napster completely faceless. It's worked like a charm. I'm sure everybody will assume Rosen's replacement is a pariah as well, and give the dicks running the big media companies a pass.
Good point. It's the RIAA who are lobbying to get new laws enacted, but it's the record companies who are trying to slip copy-protected CDs under the nose of the buying public. Maybe it's time for the CEOs of Sony, Warner, Universal et. al. to have their turn under the spotlight?:)
Or perhaps some brave (or foolhardy) soul could take a date-marked photo of their iPod playing a track off a CD that hasn't gone on sale yet... along with a post-it note saying 'Yo! RIAA! Think Different!':)
Even better... recreate a BBC Micro, with Co-Processor module on the same motherboard! The original dual-processor PC! (I should know, I owned such a beast long ago, AND I have a hard drive too. Was pensioned of to some guy at Herriot-Watt University, to go and do weather monitoring or suchlike out in the Outer Hebrides)
The scary part is, you'd probably have plenty of buyers for it too...:)
A hybrid Mac/Windows CD of AppleWorks 6 is available from the Apple Store for Education. Store for Education to K-12 and higher education faculty and students.
Rats! I have to go back to school in order to qualify for a copy.:-)
Sorry, but the link you provided is for an updater for existing owners of AppleWorks for Windows. My point is that you cannot buy AppleWorks for Windows, as it is no longer available, at least not to Joe Public anyway. Certainly not on Apple's site, it only offers AppleWorks for OS X.
maybe because they innovate more than other companies. They try different products and approaches, and while they may at times fail, in the end they arrive at a better product.
(I'm assuming that 'they' would be Microsoft in the above statement)
The 'innovate' part may be open to debate *grin*, but the rest of your statement certainly rings true. Ironically, MS Works and other products such as Small Business Server (we use it here at work) have played their part in that strategy. Works had a cue-card help system and a template system back in the Windows 3.x era, long before Clippy showed up. And Small Business Server 4.5 had a lot of the MMC-based management facilities that would eventually show up in Windows 2000 (not so surprising, since SBS 4.5 came out whilst Windows 2000 was still in beta).
But then, like you said, some products didn't work out - Image Composer and PhotoDraw spring immediately to mind, as does VizAct (anyone else remember that?)
MS Works exists primarily so that OEMs can ship a Microsoft bundle and claim "Thousands of dollars of free software! (that cost us $39)"
Let me guess, you bought your PC from Time Computers, right?:) That's what my parents bought, just over three years ago, and there were more than a dozen different applications bundled with it, ranging from the the fairly good (Norton Antivirus) to the downright hokey (3D Garden Design, anyone?) Of course, these 'packages' consisted mainly of a CD plus a few scraps of paper as documentation. Needless to say, my parents have never used most of them, with the exception of Norton Antivirus. Someday, I shall probably clear them all off the PC, just so that their Programs menu is a bit more readable!:)
I got Works Suite when I got my Dell in 1999, ended up giving it to my parents to replace the Lotus SmartSuite that came with their PC - they didn't like SmartSuite, but felt much more confortable using Works. Make of that what you will.
Actually I would say that Microsoft works had lost out to Microsoft Office. It seems that everyone wants office even if they do not need it.
Actually, it's more the case that everyone has heard of Microsoft Office, but hardly anyone has heard of Works. Apart from the odd review when they churn out the latest WorksSuite bundle (same Works, but more and newers additional bit in the box - ironically, not really integrated with one another), I've never seen it advertised anywhere.
Since Apple are no longer obliging, are there any other 'Works'-type packages out there for Windows?
Way back when, there were several 'Works' packages battling it out in the market. As well as ClarisWorks and Microsoft Works, there was LotusWork and PerfectWorks (from the old WordPerfect company), plus a few others whose names escape me.
Now, there is AppleWorks on the Mac, and Microsoft Works on the PC. All the others are gone.
I got Works 2.0 for Windows to go with my first PC back in 1992, and it did sterling service for me until I upgraded to Windows 95, when I rashly decided to migrate to Office. I've seriously considered going back to MS Works again, simply because it would mean one less piece of software to keep patching!:)
I think it's telling that the core of MS Works hasn't seen that much change in the last couple of versions, a sign that it doesn't have to worry about competition.
'What are we going to do tonight, Rainbow?' 'The same thing we do every night, CC - try to take over the World!'
You honestly thing it was the Human's idea to clone the Cat? You fools! It's part of their Masterplan to rise in vast numbers, and cast aside the enemy Dogs once and for all! Then we will be their obedient slaves - forever!:)
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MS will be found guilty and given the biggest fine ever. MS appeal - and the appeal process takes forever - RealPlayer fades away (nobody notices or cares)- Bill Gates donates $100M to fight AIDS in eastern Europe and is lauded as Europe's hero, a selfless white knight whose moral integrity should never be questioned again.
:)
Whoa! Slow down there, Mystic Meg!
I think you're getting a bit ahead of yourself. Sure, the EU beaurocracy is slow, but I think that in this case there may be more effort going into the proceedings. And Real ain't going away anytime soon, either. As for Bill's charitable activities, well good for him, but it won't make him a white knight if the press in Europe have any say in the matter... *grin*
But they couldn't figure out how to convert US dollars to Euros...
:)
Swap the Dollar symbol for the Euro symbol, like everyone else, surely!
Probably part of a secret Italian masterplan to construct a team of surgically-enhanced soccer players capable of nailing the French come the next European Cup... :)
-1, Stating The Bleeding Obvious!
In the UK, most people who have broadband service receive it either through as ISP, who in turn use either BT (DSL) or one of the two cable operators, NTL and Telewest (Cable Modem/STB). A lot, like me, probable go direct through the service provider (in my case, NTL).
AOL UK has recently started offering broadband services, through BT, but I've yet to see any figures on how much success they've had with it. MSN UK haven't made any moves on that front yet.
Recently, the RIAA's number one purpose has been to serve as a lightning rod, drawing criticism away from the big record labels. As long as all of you were shouting "fuck Hillary Rosen," she was doing her job, which was to keep the actual assholes behind shutting down napster completely faceless. It's worked like a charm. I'm sure everybody will assume Rosen's replacement is a pariah as well, and give the dicks running the big media companies a pass.
:)
Good point. It's the RIAA who are lobbying to get new laws enacted, but it's the record companies who are trying to slip copy-protected CDs under the nose of the buying public. Maybe it's time for the CEOs of Sony, Warner, Universal et. al. to have their turn under the spotlight?
Or perhaps some brave (or foolhardy) soul could take a date-marked photo of their iPod playing a track off a CD that hasn't gone on sale yet... along with a post-it note saying 'Yo! RIAA! Think Different!' :)
More to the point, how about a pic of one on Hillary Rosen's desk? :)
Even better... recreate a BBC Micro, with Co-Processor module on the same motherboard! The original dual-processor PC! (I should know, I owned such a beast long ago, AND I have a hard drive too. Was pensioned of to some guy at Herriot-Watt University, to go and do weather monitoring or suchlike out in the Outer Hebrides)
:)
The scary part is, you'd probably have plenty of buyers for it too...
Well, if you get a copy of WindowBlinds, you can make your Windows 9x/2000/XP system look like Windows 3.1 ! :)
-1, Pointless Willy-waving.
Bad choice of words, surely, given that pythons are large constrictor snakes, not noted for their swiftness... :)
Maybe his thinking is being affected by the 10 millions miles of dreadlocks coming out of his head. :)
A hybrid Mac/Windows CD of AppleWorks 6 is available from the Apple Store for Education.
:-)
Store for Education to K-12 and higher education faculty and students.
Rats! I have to go back to school in order to qualify for a copy.
Sorry, but the link you provided is for an updater for existing owners of AppleWorks for Windows. My point is that you cannot buy AppleWorks for Windows, as it is no longer available, at least not to Joe Public anyway. Certainly not on Apple's site, it only offers AppleWorks for OS X.
maybe because they innovate more than other companies. They try different products and approaches, and while they may at times fail, in the end they arrive at a better product.
(I'm assuming that 'they' would be Microsoft in the above statement)
The 'innovate' part may be open to debate *grin*, but the rest of your statement certainly rings true. Ironically, MS Works and other products such as Small Business Server (we use it here at work) have played their part in that strategy. Works had a cue-card help system and a template system back in the Windows 3.x era, long before Clippy showed up. And Small Business Server 4.5 had a lot of the MMC-based management facilities that would eventually show up in Windows 2000 (not so surprising, since SBS 4.5 came out whilst Windows 2000 was still in beta).
But then, like you said, some products didn't work out - Image Composer and PhotoDraw spring immediately to mind, as does VizAct (anyone else remember that?)
MS Works exists primarily so that OEMs can ship a Microsoft bundle and claim "Thousands of dollars of free software! (that cost us $39)"
:) That's what my parents bought, just over three years ago, and there were more than a dozen different applications bundled with it, ranging from the the fairly good (Norton Antivirus) to the downright hokey (3D Garden Design, anyone?) Of course, these 'packages' consisted mainly of a CD plus a few scraps of paper as documentation. Needless to say, my parents have never used most of them, with the exception of Norton Antivirus. Someday, I shall probably clear them all off the PC, just so that their Programs menu is a bit more readable! :)
Let me guess, you bought your PC from Time Computers, right?
I got Works Suite when I got my Dell in 1999, ended up giving it to my parents to replace the Lotus SmartSuite that came with their PC - they didn't like SmartSuite, but felt much more confortable using Works. Make of that what you will.
There's also AppleWorks for Windows, currently only available to the education customers.
Ah, that would explain why the only entry for AppleWorks for Windows i found at amazon.co.uk was marked 'Limited Availability'...
Actually I would say that Microsoft works had lost out to Microsoft Office. It seems that everyone wants office even if they do not need it.
Actually, it's more the case that everyone has heard of Microsoft Office, but hardly anyone has heard of Works. Apart from the odd review when they churn out the latest WorksSuite bundle (same Works, but more and newers additional bit in the box - ironically, not really integrated with one another), I've never seen it advertised anywhere.
Since Apple are no longer obliging, are there any other 'Works'-type packages out there for Windows?
Way back when, there were several 'Works' packages battling it out in the market. As well as ClarisWorks and Microsoft Works, there was LotusWork and PerfectWorks (from the old WordPerfect company), plus a few others whose names escape me.
:)
Now, there is AppleWorks on the Mac, and Microsoft Works on the PC. All the others are gone.
I got Works 2.0 for Windows to go with my first PC back in 1992, and it did sterling service for me until I upgraded to Windows 95, when I rashly decided to migrate to Office. I've seriously considered going back to MS Works again, simply because it would mean one less piece of software to keep patching!
I think it's telling that the core of MS Works hasn't seen that much change in the last couple of versions, a sign that it doesn't have to worry about competition.
They cloned a sheep first. Does this mean there'll be a ruling hierarchy? Sheep->Cats->People
:)
More likely, an alliance of some kind. The sheep have already attained control of most of New Zealand, after all.
'What are we going to do tonight, Rainbow?'
:)
'The same thing we do every night, CC - try to take over the World!'
You honestly thing it was the Human's idea to clone the Cat? You fools! It's part of their Masterplan to rise in vast numbers, and cast aside the enemy Dogs once and for all! Then we will be their obedient slaves - forever!
Not a Carbon API for a Cat ? Upgrade to Cacoa for full MacOS X Jaguar support.
:)
You misunderstand the nature of Cats. They have no need of an API, as they interface to the computer by directing their pet Human(s) instead.
So, finally, in typical Slashdot-style, let me ask.. Is this really news ?
Well, at least with this story we actually have pictures of the clone, and some proof that it actually exists.