I wasn't trying to act like an expert.. I was trying to ask a question... You know, to correct for the fact that I only briefly skimmed the article, and because migratory birds are not in any way part of my day to day job.
So if I read this right, while they are in the presence of electromagnetic fields they can't orient themselves via their internal compass, but the moment they leave that field they regain their orientation. So all they have to do is fly in any direction, and they will eventually get oriented. I'm not sure I see how big a problem this is. It would be unusual for them to experience it in nature, but it seems like something they would naturally recover from. Are their any studies that tell us that large numbers of migratory birds are flying the wrong direction? (as opposed to saying that they might, if they are constantly in an abnormal electromagnetic field)
The poorest person vehicle, they wont have the best lawyer money can buy.
This. Unless laws are changed, I figure it would do it as an economic question:
1. Cliff/Wall No one left who can sue. 2. Another autonomous vehicle (their owners already signed away their right to sue) 3. Trucks or Large vehicle (Less damage/likelihood of unwaivered driver getting injured, more likely to have agreements with insurance companies) 4. Single Pedestrian / Bicycle / Very Small Vehicle (see #1) 5. All other vehicles depending on # of passengers * cost of vehicle. (Lower cost vehicles are less likely to contain people with good lawyers)
But realistically they will just have the driver sign something that says they are ultimately responsible for any action the car takes. Then 0.01 seconds before an unavoidable accident it releases control to the driver, making them actually responsible. That way the legal shit-storm would be pushed back to the people at the scene. Especially because the car manufacturer/programmers would have the paperwork and teams of highly trained lawyers who do just that.
I'd postulate that most people don't buy them because they still need a full sized vehicle for the occasional long-haul trip hauling a bunch of stuff or a group of people. So, it has to be your *second* vehicle. That tends to negate potential cost savings in gas or purchase price.
This is a major reason why I don't have a smaller vehicle. I wish I did, but keeping 2 vehicles insured for 1 person doesn't make sense economically.
It would be nice if they fixed the incentives to promote using the correct vehicle for the correct job.
You can have my car keys when you pry them from my cold dead hands.
Next on YouTube: "The autonomous car's video, audio and 3D representations of exactly what happened as the fire crews pulled the keys from AC's cold dead hands, following an accident caused by human error. The passengers of the autonomous car all escaped unscathed."
I thought you were being serious the first time!.... I've seen too many cases of "Do this." And only finding out later that was meant as an easier first step to something completely different and actually unrelated in any way.
What I call 'smart kids' are the ones who bust their hind end and know they are only going to get some help to get through school and they better be the best they can or opportunity will not knock.
And still they end up deep in debt, working hard and barely making ends meet, while the rich child "suffering from" affluenza still gets to live a life of relative luxury... It's a beauty of a world, no?
Or how about a "for profit" prison? We send up low level criminals like students, pot users, computer hackers, political dissidents, etc up there... While they are in prison they can be taught a trade, like computer programming. Then when they get out tell them they have a debt to society for the trip up, housing, food, water, air, waste disposal, etc, not to mention if they want to return to earth... I'm sure only a few will pull together the required funds. Might not be legal in most countries on earth, but the moon doesn't have any laws, right?
why not ask how we can set up a stock trading floor on the moon? you know, for the PROFIT!
Well supposedly they are the most important part of our economy, and so if we want to start an economy up there then we really should start with the basics right?
I suggest we send all the bankers and major stock brokers/exchanges up there first. Maybe we could even send them all the politicians, judges and lawyers thery need. Once they establish an economy we can send them less important things, like food, shelter, healthcare, breathable air, etc. ):D
How quickly do you think those jobs would be shipped oversees to people who aren't bound by such associations? That is the computer programmers' problem.
another thing where your mailserver is falling over and a major customer is screaming about how they were promised a major feature today and they're going to walk if they don't get it... and your jack-of-all-trades is demanding that you put your priorities in writing to cover his ass when one of the two doesn't get taken care of.
When I picture it I always imagine the universe expands and cools to the point where there is uniform energy everywhere, but given enough time an infinitely improbable event occurs and all/a large percent of the energy spontaneously appears in a single point and explodes. Cycle repeats. Where did the energy come from in the first place? I don't think we will ever know.
At first I thought they just hadn't heard of universal remotes, or programmable remotes... I read the article, and wow, just some old fogey who thinks tech is moving too slowly for his tastes, and that live content providers lock-in with cable and satellite providers is unbreakable. My guess is that if the lock-in is so strong, and cable and satellite providers don't budge then the whole mess of them will go the way of the dodo in favour of new content providers that aren't so encumbered.
No I wouldn't have time to "dick" with my 3d printer. I think you are forgetting how easy it could become... Pick an item on my tablet, do any of the quick customizations provided by the designer, hit print, it shows me how much time to completion. Grab it when I hear a chime. For now Target (I don't live anywhere near one at this point) has lots of cheap disposable goods, but they have to pay for overstock, storage, distribution, staff, etc for all their products. If there were relatively few common types of pre-materials for 3d printers, then stores would open that would dedicate themselves to that. Allowing likely cheap easy access to something that is far easier to produce and distribute then any of those injection moulded toys. I expect that if 3D printers ever got to the stage I outline above as my "minimum viable product" then large sections of your local Target/Walmart would be remodelled/repurposed, and many injection mould factories would change their process to create more of the pre-materials people would crave.
But to me that sounds like a library and software problem, which can easily be upgraded/updated over time (or provided mostly online) Obviously the consumables have to come down in price to so that economy of scale starts making sense. I don't care about 1 lampshade, I care about all the hundreds/thousands of little plastic things (tupperware, tupperware lids, jugs) that I have to buy over time and the convenience of acquiring them. It would be a lot easier for me to buy lots of plastic consumables in bulk knowing that the day will come where I'll want to print something, if I know I can have almost anything I need with said materials.
I totally agree that it will end up having more to do with having a great library of designs that the average person can print (or even modify!) easily. I would imagine getting a 3D printer right before having children, and I would want it for the following things: Toys Kitchen utensils, plates, cups, bowls, etc Decorations / spare parts
So I would need a library of such things, a printer that could print in various colours with foodsafe, microwavable materials, strongly enough that items wont break under normal load, and won't have lots of edges I have to file down with sandpaper or porous holes I have to fill. And all that for a reasonable price (including the source materials) None of the commercial 3D printers I've seen or heard about come close to having that list of features. But if someone were to come up with that mixture, I could imagine buying it.
Ethics, shmethics this is about getting a large government grant on a tropical island and they don't want the world to know when the scientists sneak off to the tiki bar./halfjoke
Because your service in a submarine is still on this planet and eventually your tour ends and you go back home in a few days?
And that won't be controlled for in this experiment. I think the best they could do is find some solid scientists from up north (i.e. north pole) or down south (i.e. south pole) and get them to do the experiment. They are much more likely to be psychologically hardened to the conditions described. Then redshift their visors to an an extra possible stressor. Try to get them to live a year or two like that. Doing studies/experiments outside in bulky "mars suits". But then I think most of us are pretty well convinced that this study is more about getting government money and creating excuses then actually studying unknowns.
I don't drive like a granny either, and this happens a lot. I would love a little "bumper sticker/device" that I can control from the steering wheel that could flash "Calm down, I just see something ahead you don't." in clear letters with red lights. I think it would be quite effective where I live. Might not work in all areas....
Slashdot Mirror
I wasn't trying to act like an expert.. I was trying to ask a question... You know, to correct for the fact that I only briefly skimmed the article, and because migratory birds are not in any way part of my day to day job.
So if I read this right, while they are in the presence of electromagnetic fields they can't orient themselves via their internal compass, but the moment they leave that field they regain their orientation. So all they have to do is fly in any direction, and they will eventually get oriented. I'm not sure I see how big a problem this is. It would be unusual for them to experience it in nature, but it seems like something they would naturally recover from.
Are their any studies that tell us that large numbers of migratory birds are flying the wrong direction? (as opposed to saying that they might, if they are constantly in an abnormal electromagnetic field)
Those videos reminded me so much of the various places I've traveled... Those aren't the only places where the normal rules don't seem to apply.
The poorest person vehicle, they wont have the best lawyer money can buy.
This. Unless laws are changed, I figure it would do it as an economic question:
1. Cliff/Wall No one left who can sue.
2. Another autonomous vehicle (their owners already signed away their right to sue)
3. Trucks or Large vehicle (Less damage/likelihood of unwaivered driver getting injured, more likely to have agreements with insurance companies)
4. Single Pedestrian / Bicycle / Very Small Vehicle (see #1)
5. All other vehicles depending on # of passengers * cost of vehicle. (Lower cost vehicles are less likely to contain people with good lawyers)
But realistically they will just have the driver sign something that says they are ultimately responsible for any action the car takes. Then 0.01 seconds before an unavoidable accident it releases control to the driver, making them actually responsible. That way the legal shit-storm would be pushed back to the people at the scene. Especially because the car manufacturer/programmers would have the paperwork and teams of highly trained lawyers who do just that.
So... There didn't actually need to be a crash, but heuristics on this particular type of crash are sorely lacking.......
I'd postulate that most people don't buy them because they still need a full sized vehicle for the occasional long-haul trip hauling a bunch of stuff or a group of people. So, it has to be your *second* vehicle. That tends to negate potential cost savings in gas or purchase price.
This is a major reason why I don't have a smaller vehicle. I wish I did, but keeping 2 vehicles insured for 1 person doesn't make sense economically.
It would be nice if they fixed the incentives to promote using the correct vehicle for the correct job.
You can have my car keys when you pry them from my cold dead hands.
Next on YouTube:
"The autonomous car's video, audio and 3D representations of exactly what happened as the fire crews pulled the keys from AC's cold dead hands, following an accident caused by human error. The passengers of the autonomous car all escaped unscathed."
I want to see an XKCD on this :D
s/wall/bridge/
I thought you were being serious the first time!.... I've seen too many cases of "Do this." And only finding out later that was meant as an easier first step to something completely different and actually unrelated in any way.
What I call 'smart kids' are the ones who bust their hind end and know they are only going to get some help to get through school and they better be the best they can or opportunity will not knock.
And still they end up deep in debt, working hard and barely making ends meet, while the rich child "suffering from" affluenza still gets to live a life of relative luxury... It's a beauty of a world, no?
"how can I build a profitable luxury hotel here?"
Or how about a "for profit" prison?
We send up low level criminals like students, pot users, computer hackers, political dissidents, etc up there... While they are in prison they can be taught a trade, like computer programming. Then when they get out tell them they have a debt to society for the trip up, housing, food, water, air, waste disposal, etc, not to mention if they want to return to earth... I'm sure only a few will pull together the required funds.
Might not be legal in most countries on earth, but the moon doesn't have any laws, right?
Damn, I'm feeling evil today >:D
why not ask how we can set up a stock trading floor on the moon? you know, for the PROFIT!
Well supposedly they are the most important part of our economy, and so if we want to start an economy up there then we really should start with the basics right?
I suggest we send all the bankers and major stock brokers/exchanges up there first. Maybe we could even send them all the politicians, judges and lawyers thery need. Once they establish an economy we can send them less important things, like food, shelter, healthcare, breathable air, etc. ):D
How quickly do you think those jobs would be shipped oversees to people who aren't bound by such associations?
That is the computer programmers' problem.
another thing where your mailserver is falling over and a major customer is screaming about how they were promised a major feature today and they're going to walk if they don't get it... and your jack-of-all-trades is demanding that you put your priorities in writing to cover his ass when one of the two doesn't get taken care of.
I think you just summed up 90% of my job!
When I picture it I always imagine the universe expands and cools to the point where there is uniform energy everywhere, but given enough time an infinitely improbable event occurs and all/a large percent of the energy spontaneously appears in a single point and explodes. Cycle repeats.
Where did the energy come from in the first place? I don't think we will ever know.
At first I thought they just hadn't heard of universal remotes, or programmable remotes...
I read the article, and wow, just some old fogey who thinks tech is moving too slowly for his tastes, and that live content providers lock-in with cable and satellite providers is unbreakable. My guess is that if the lock-in is so strong, and cable and satellite providers don't budge then the whole mess of them will go the way of the dodo in favour of new content providers that aren't so encumbered.
No I wouldn't have time to "dick" with my 3d printer. I think you are forgetting how easy it could become... Pick an item on my tablet, do any of the quick customizations provided by the designer, hit print, it shows me how much time to completion. Grab it when I hear a chime.
For now Target (I don't live anywhere near one at this point) has lots of cheap disposable goods, but they have to pay for overstock, storage, distribution, staff, etc for all their products. If there were relatively few common types of pre-materials for 3d printers, then stores would open that would dedicate themselves to that. Allowing likely cheap easy access to something that is far easier to produce and distribute then any of those injection moulded toys.
I expect that if 3D printers ever got to the stage I outline above as my "minimum viable product" then large sections of your local Target/Walmart would be remodelled/repurposed, and many injection mould factories would change their process to create more of the pre-materials people would crave.
But to me that sounds like a library and software problem, which can easily be upgraded/updated over time (or provided mostly online)
Obviously the consumables have to come down in price to so that economy of scale starts making sense. I don't care about 1 lampshade, I care about all the hundreds/thousands of little plastic things (tupperware, tupperware lids, jugs) that I have to buy over time and the convenience of acquiring them.
It would be a lot easier for me to buy lots of plastic consumables in bulk knowing that the day will come where I'll want to print something, if I know I can have almost anything I need with said materials.
I totally agree that it will end up having more to do with having a great library of designs that the average person can print (or even modify!) easily.
I would imagine getting a 3D printer right before having children, and I would want it for the following things:
Toys
Kitchen utensils, plates, cups, bowls, etc
Decorations / spare parts
So I would need a library of such things, a printer that could print in various colours with foodsafe, microwavable materials, strongly enough that items wont break under normal load, and won't have lots of edges I have to file down with sandpaper or porous holes I have to fill. And all that for a reasonable price (including the source materials)
None of the commercial 3D printers I've seen or heard about come close to having that list of features. But if someone were to come up with that mixture, I could imagine buying it.
Ethics, shmethics this is about getting a large government grant on a tropical island and they don't want the world to know when the scientists sneak off to the tiki bar. /halfjoke
Because your service in a submarine is still on this planet and eventually your tour ends and you go back home in a few days?
And that won't be controlled for in this experiment.
I think the best they could do is find some solid scientists from up north (i.e. north pole) or down south (i.e. south pole) and get them to do the experiment. They are much more likely to be psychologically hardened to the conditions described. Then redshift their visors to an an extra possible stressor. Try to get them to live a year or two like that. Doing studies/experiments outside in bulky "mars suits".
But then I think most of us are pretty well convinced that this study is more about getting government money and creating excuses then actually studying unknowns.
Wolf PAC
Probably illegal, too.
Maybe technically, but I think the cops around here would get a good laugh out of it too (if done tastefully and not an actual annoyance/distraction)
I don't drive like a granny either, and this happens a lot.
I would love a little "bumper sticker/device" that I can control from the steering wheel that could flash "Calm down, I just see something ahead you don't." in clear letters with red lights.
I think it would be quite effective where I live. Might not work in all areas....
Or something more like this....