In a sense what Ms. Rosen is saying is a good point and mirrors what you just said, but at the same time when she says something like that it leaves a bitter taste in my mouth. I think that the reason for that lies between the lines in what you just said. Yes it's bad to essentially steal someone elses work, wether that be by passing it off as your own or by taking advantage of the benifits of that work without compensating the worker in some way, but it's the act that is bad, not the things that make the act possible. It's not the web's fault that someone may turn in a copy of your work, nor is it the fault of mp3s that people mass duplicate them over the internet. For that reason we should not strike down the technology that makes music duplication possible, nor should we stop sharing ideas over the web. If Ms. Rosen weren't trying so hard to destroy not only music piracy, but the technology that enables it and many other unrelated good things, perhaps I wouldn't be so sarcastic and upset when she asked us to refrain from what she's trying to force us not to do anyway.
It's not good enough for her just to expect us to live up to our end of the product exchange, she has to be willing to live up to her end and allow us all the rights that come with the licence we purchase. If that means that some people will be able to act illegaly at her expense then she will have to find another way to deal with it.
Not only does the PC cost twice as much in this case, but the iMac will be worth twice as much as the PC when the owners go to resell them for an upgrade.
The RIAA is an association of record labels; essentially, the RIAA is the record labels, and Hilary Rosen is from the RIAA. You shouldn't get a different answer from one part of the group then you do from the whole. On the other hand I wouldn't be surprised to find out that the don't have their stories straight.
I doubt the record companies would've ever raised such a fuss if people were *only* using MP3's and burners for their own use.
You're right, of course, but it doesn't matter. It should be the undesireable behavior that is illegal, not the technology that happens to enable it along with hundreds of other legitimate behaviors.
In fact, if you manage to get them to give a straight answer, they'll probably even tell you this kind of behavior is fine.
That has never and will never be the position of the RIAA. As far as they're concerned you purchase a licence to the recording on that particular medium. You might get them to admit that making a backup copy is ligit, but if you want the recording in a different format they think you should have to pay again. It is unfortunate for them that current law doesn't allow for that position, so they've resorted to lobbying for new laws that will indirectly give them that power.
Hilary Rosen: "I ask them, 'What have you done last week?' They may say they wrote a paper on this or that. So I tell them, 'Oh, you wrote a paper, and you got an A? Would it bother you if somebody could just take that paper and get an A too? Would that bug you?'
'What have you done this week?' She might say she bought a sweater because she liked it. So I'd tell her 'Oh, you bought a sweater? Would it bother you if you had to pay for that sweater again if you wanted to tie it around your waist when it got too warm to wear it? Would it bother you if you couldn't tie that sweater around your waist too? Would that bug you?'
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If it is GPL'd software then point out to them that they could be sued if they do not release the patches.
That's completely untrue. You can use patches to GPL'd software internaly to an organization or personally without releasing code. You only need to release code if you plan on distributing the modified version.
I also believe that governments and police forces overemphasise speed's role in causing accidents because it's easier than advocating extensive driver training and better testing (including regular retesting).
Actually, it's because it's easier to catch people speeding then weaving, or tailgating or neglecting to use their directional lights during lane changes. People tend to stop doing those things when there's a cop on the road, but it's easy to sit on the side of the road with radar.
Also, some states in the USA have removed daytime speed limits on straight multilane highways, and seen a dramatic drop in accidents. There are some places where speeding will increase the chance of an accident because you can't see far enough ahead, but that doesn't make high speed in general a cause of accidents.
I disagree. USB burners suck big time. If he doesn't care about asthetics, the IDE burner is the way to go. If he doesn't care about MacOS compatability, almost any IDE burner will work. The IDE burner support in linux is excelent. With third party drivers he should also be able to get almost any IDE burner to work in MacOS 9.x. I haven't tried it in MacOS X yet...
USB is only 12Mbit. While that's plenty for lots of things, it's not good for data storage. He'll likely only get 1.4MB/sec MAX, and with that upper limit, it's only safe to burn at 4x or slower. Lame.
isaac had a great point in his post too. If you file a claim in Massachusets your rates increase. For claims under $2000, it's the equivalent of 1 point, and if it's >$2000 but $5000 it's 2 points and so on. The worst part is that these equivalent points don't count as actual points, so you can go above the maximum rate afforded by the point system, and the company you are with doesn't necissarily have to reduce your rates for a 'good year' like with the points.
I've had my rates in MA go up because I was hit in the parking lot of the grocery store, and the guy took off. If you don't get the licence plate number of the person at fault your rates go up. Same goes for if you get hit by an uninsured driver.
I live in Massachusets as well, and I will admit that we have a good system for keeping customer abuse down, the base prices are rather high. Most places don't regulate the insurance industry as much as Massachusets does, which is why most nation wide insurance companies don't operate in Mass. I used to live in Connecticut, where insurance rates can be altered based on how many accidents you've been in. Wether you were at fault is not part of the equation. Even in MA, accidents that aren't your fault can be used as a reason to be denied coverage. Though rates are regulated in MA, companies get around the limitation by being able to offer 'Group discounts', purchasing a membership in some random 'group' for $5 a year will allow you to get a discount on your insurance. Many of these companies that offer group discounts will deny you coverage if you have accidents on your record, wether you were at fault or not.
BTW, the point system is great as long as you've been driving for more then 6 years. Everyone else get screwed! Glad I didn't move up here before I was 21.
The way it worked in this test program was a small monitor would gauge your speed (now that I think about it, another monitor guaging breaking habits could also be useful) such that if you were obeying the speed limits, you would get a discount on your insurance.
Show me even a corelation between increased speed and increased accidents. I have never seen such statistics. Accidents aren't caused by speed, they're caused by other behavior.
Don't give me the x% where x is greater then 50 of accidents involve a car going over the speed limit stat, because that statistic doesn't take into account that y% of people speed where y is > x. As far as I'm concerned that statistic is an arguement for raising speed limits.
The idea isn't to fine people automatically (like in Demolition Man) but to reward people for good driving habits
Then explain to me why your insurance rates go up if you get rear ended at a stop light, or if you get into an accident due to a mechanical failure in a car that can be proven diligently maintained. It's a crock. The insurance industry is highly and non-uniformly regulated, and it causes them to charge you as much as they can legaly get away with. The only possible thing this device could cause is increases in insurance rates, since once you've been driving for 6 years with a clean record you have the lowes possible rates. With this box it's just easier to tarnish your record.
You couldn't be farther from correct. First off, consumer hard drive manufacturers make their money from OEM sales, not from the (tiny) upgrade market. The consumer perception of IBM drives would have little to no effect on sales because people and companies buy boxes with IBM disks in them without knowing that it's an IBM disk inside. I'm not just talking about PCs, I mean notebooks, and most importantly large SAN solutions. IBM and HDS both make high margin, high capacity storage boxes that compete with the market leader, EMC. The cash to be had in this market dwarfs the consumer drive market into insignificance given recent margins. The trouble is, neither IBM or HDS can manage to take significant market share away from EMC. This anouncement means that HDS and IBM will be teaming up against EMC. Hopefully this will drive the prices of enterprise storage down.
The reason is that this deal isn't about hard drives, but about competing with EMC in the high end SAN space. IBM or HDS can't compete with EMC on their own, so they're merging to grow their market share. The SAN stuff is real money compared to what you piddly consumers spend.
shows how HP has worked to help accelerate the shift from proprietary platforms to open architectures
Last I checked, only intel made itanium architecture chips, chipsets and firmware, and all the machines are intel reference designs. How is this not a proprietary platform again?
Even Sparc is less proprietary then this. It's unfortunate that intel and HP can blatently lie, and people will eat it up.
Monopoly and scale are completely different, and amazon certainly does not have a monopoly on anything except perhaps "one-click".
If the publishers don't like amazon's policies, they can stop selling their books to amazon, or charge them more. They won't do that though, because amazon makes them alot of money. Amazon also makes more money on the sale of a new book then it does on the sale of a used one. Perhaps the guild should figure out that amazon knows what it's doing and shut the hell up.
By stripped down linux I don't mean you take away any functionality that an end user would take advantage of, I mean you take away the cruft included by default in certain mainstream distributions that takes time to start, but you'll never use. That, and I completely understood what you meant with the running processes and all. It is possible to automatically restart the processes into their existing state. Since I posted, I have also learned learned that a patch that provides XP-style hibernation exists for linux. I have not tried this yet, so I cannot comment on it's speed.
Let's recap what I said: I think 12 seconds is slow. I can demonstrate comprable configurations with other operating systems (Previous versions of windows included) that are faster, while only compramising the most questionable of functionality (there is some application support required, but there are few applications that don't have the required support). In fact, I mentioned windows 98 as an example before mentioning linux because I assumed that if you were running windows you wouldn't be interested in a non-compatable solution. I did not advocate linux as an alternative to XP, I advocated windows 98 as an alternative to XP.
Furthermore, I mostly blame the lack of uniformity among "standard" x86 machines, and the baggage contained in the PC BIOS for the hacks that masquerade as support for "instant-on" features. Microsoft should not have had to do what they did to get machines to sleep. All recently produced DRAM chips support auto refresh, and with trivial implementation on the hardware side a system could sleep for weeks with almost no power, and then turn back on in miliseconds. I've seen many "solutions" to the problem on the x86 platform, and I've never seen anything come close to the simple, elegant, solutions I've seen on other redily available architectures. Hopefully the move to EFI on x86 will solve the problem, but it's looking like we'll end up yet another standard way to make basic funcionality propriatary (read: broken)
The anti-XP comments I made, while are potentially discrediting to my opinion, are beside the point and completely oftopic. If you'd like to know why I don't like about windows XP, I'd be happy to share my opinions on the matter with you in a more apropriate forum. You have my e-mail address.
Oh great, another "USB doesn't have nearly enough badwidth for x" comment.
Let's be generous and say that the compressed video is using 1MB/second (More data then DVD video) That's only 8Mb/second, leaving enough bandwidth left over for uncompressed CD quailty stereo audio and your input devices. 12Mb/second is still a respectable amount of bandwidth for streaming applications.
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In a sense what Ms. Rosen is saying is a good point and mirrors what you just said, but at the same time when she says something like that it leaves a bitter taste in my mouth. I think that the reason for that lies between the lines in what you just said. Yes it's bad to essentially steal someone elses work, wether that be by passing it off as your own or by taking advantage of the benifits of that work without compensating the worker in some way, but it's the act that is bad, not the things that make the act possible. It's not the web's fault that someone may turn in a copy of your work, nor is it the fault of mp3s that people mass duplicate them over the internet. For that reason we should not strike down the technology that makes music duplication possible, nor should we stop sharing ideas over the web. If Ms. Rosen weren't trying so hard to destroy not only music piracy, but the technology that enables it and many other unrelated good things, perhaps I wouldn't be so sarcastic and upset when she asked us to refrain from what she's trying to force us not to do anyway.
It's not good enough for her just to expect us to live up to our end of the product exchange, she has to be willing to live up to her end and allow us all the rights that come with the licence we purchase. If that means that some people will be able to act illegaly at her expense then she will have to find another way to deal with it.
Not only does the PC cost twice as much in this case, but the iMac will be worth twice as much as the PC when the owners go to resell them for an upgrade.
The RIAA is an association of record labels; essentially, the RIAA is the record labels, and Hilary Rosen is from the RIAA. You shouldn't get a different answer from one part of the group then you do from the whole. On the other hand I wouldn't be surprised to find out that the don't have their stories straight.
I doubt the record companies would've ever raised such a fuss if people were *only* using MP3's and burners for their own use.
You're right, of course, but it doesn't matter. It should be the undesireable behavior that is illegal, not the technology that happens to enable it along with hundreds of other legitimate behaviors.
In fact, if you manage to get them to give a straight answer, they'll probably even tell you this kind of behavior is fine.
That has never and will never be the position of the RIAA. As far as they're concerned you purchase a licence to the recording on that particular medium. You might get them to admit that making a backup copy is ligit, but if you want the recording in a different format they think you should have to pay again. It is unfortunate for them that current law doesn't allow for that position, so they've resorted to lobbying for new laws that will indirectly give them that power.
Hilary Rosen: "I ask them, 'What have you done last week?' They may say they wrote a paper on this or that. So I tell them, 'Oh, you wrote a paper, and you got an A? Would it bother you if somebody could just take that paper and get an A too? Would that bug you?'
'What have you done this week?' She might say she bought a sweater because she liked it. So I'd tell her 'Oh, you bought a sweater? Would it bother you if you had to pay for that sweater again if you wanted to tie it around your waist when it got too warm to wear it? Would it bother you if you couldn't tie that sweater around your waist too? Would that bug you?'
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Yeah, or having the usage graph on the UPS go up a tick every time the ad cycles. :(
Why would you pay salaries to deploy anti-virus software that you didn't buy?
One can just see what happens when bigotry mixes with stupidity - this guy.
One can just see what happens when someone with a 1st grade reading comprehension level posts on slashdot - your post.
If it is GPL'd software then point out to them that they could be sued if they do not release the patches.
That's completely untrue. You can use patches to GPL'd software internaly to an organization or personally without releasing code. You only need to release code if you plan on distributing the modified version.
Go read section 2 of the GPL carefully.
Sounds to me like they're making excuses while everybody else seems to be having no trouble making their products work under MacOS X.
The guy said he had a Rev A iMac. That means USB 1.0 only.
No assumptions were made.
I also believe that governments and police forces overemphasise speed's role in causing accidents because it's easier than advocating extensive driver training and better testing (including regular retesting).
Actually, it's because it's easier to catch people speeding then weaving, or tailgating or neglecting to use their directional lights during lane changes. People tend to stop doing those things when there's a cop on the road, but it's easy to sit on the side of the road with radar.
Also, some states in the USA have removed daytime speed limits on straight multilane highways, and seen a dramatic drop in accidents. There are some places where speeding will increase the chance of an accident because you can't see far enough ahead, but that doesn't make high speed in general a cause of accidents.
I disagree. USB burners suck big time. If he doesn't care about asthetics, the IDE burner is the way to go. If he doesn't care about MacOS compatability, almost any IDE burner will work. The IDE burner support in linux is excelent. With third party drivers he should also be able to get almost any IDE burner to work in MacOS 9.x. I haven't tried it in MacOS X yet...
USB is only 12Mbit. While that's plenty for lots of things, it's not good for data storage. He'll likely only get 1.4MB/sec MAX, and with that upper limit, it's only safe to burn at 4x or slower. Lame.
isaac had a great point in his post too. If you file a claim in Massachusets your rates increase. For claims under $2000, it's the equivalent of 1 point, and if it's >$2000 but $5000 it's 2 points and so on. The worst part is that these equivalent points don't count as actual points, so you can go above the maximum rate afforded by the point system, and the company you are with doesn't necissarily have to reduce your rates for a 'good year' like with the points.
I've had my rates in MA go up because I was hit in the parking lot of the grocery store, and the guy took off. If you don't get the licence plate number of the person at fault your rates go up. Same goes for if you get hit by an uninsured driver.
I live in Massachusets as well, and I will admit that we have a good system for keeping customer abuse down, the base prices are rather high. Most places don't regulate the insurance industry as much as Massachusets does, which is why most nation wide insurance companies don't operate in Mass. I used to live in Connecticut, where insurance rates can be altered based on how many accidents you've been in. Wether you were at fault is not part of the equation. Even in MA, accidents that aren't your fault can be used as a reason to be denied coverage. Though rates are regulated in MA, companies get around the limitation by being able to offer 'Group discounts', purchasing a membership in some random 'group' for $5 a year will allow you to get a discount on your insurance. Many of these companies that offer group discounts will deny you coverage if you have accidents on your record, wether you were at fault or not.
BTW, the point system is great as long as you've been driving for more then 6 years. Everyone else get screwed! Glad I didn't move up here before I was 21.
The way it worked in this test program was a small monitor would gauge your speed (now that I think about it, another monitor guaging breaking habits could also be useful) such that if you were obeying the speed limits, you would get a discount on your insurance.
Show me even a corelation between increased speed and increased accidents. I have never seen such statistics. Accidents aren't caused by speed, they're caused by other behavior.
Don't give me the x% where x is greater then 50 of accidents involve a car going over the speed limit stat, because that statistic doesn't take into account that y% of people speed where y is > x. As far as I'm concerned that statistic is an arguement for raising speed limits.
The idea isn't to fine people automatically (like in Demolition Man) but to reward people for good driving habits
Then explain to me why your insurance rates go up if you get rear ended at a stop light, or if you get into an accident due to a mechanical failure in a car that can be proven diligently maintained. It's a crock. The insurance industry is highly and non-uniformly regulated, and it causes them to charge you as much as they can legaly get away with. The only possible thing this device could cause is increases in insurance rates, since once you've been driving for 6 years with a clean record you have the lowes possible rates. With this box it's just easier to tarnish your record.
Actually he got shit, and he payed alot too. 60gb HDD + Creative PVR sounds like more money then a TiVo to me.
He could have gotten a TiVo and a TV in card and been set.
You couldn't be farther from correct. First off, consumer hard drive manufacturers make their money from OEM sales, not from the (tiny) upgrade market. The consumer perception of IBM drives would have little to no effect on sales because people and companies buy boxes with IBM disks in them without knowing that it's an IBM disk inside. I'm not just talking about PCs, I mean notebooks, and most importantly large SAN solutions. IBM and HDS both make high margin, high capacity storage boxes that compete with the market leader, EMC. The cash to be had in this market dwarfs the consumer drive market into insignificance given recent margins. The trouble is, neither IBM or HDS can manage to take significant market share away from EMC. This anouncement means that HDS and IBM will be teaming up against EMC. Hopefully this will drive the prices of enterprise storage down.
The reason is that this deal isn't about hard drives, but about competing with EMC in the high end SAN space. IBM or HDS can't compete with EMC on their own, so they're merging to grow their market share. The SAN stuff is real money compared to what you piddly consumers spend.
I'd rather have my ISP make the money they need and stay afloat rather than let them not be money grubbing and fail,
Gah. The answer is not to limit functionality in order to become profitable, but to align prices with costs.
shows how HP has worked to help accelerate the shift from proprietary platforms to open architectures
Last I checked, only intel made itanium architecture chips, chipsets and firmware, and all the machines are intel reference designs. How is this not a proprietary platform again?
Even Sparc is less proprietary then this. It's unfortunate that intel and HP can blatently lie, and people will eat it up.
Holy fucking weird, dude. That's a strange bug. Just verified it on IE 5.00.3314.2108 with the 128bit security update.
Monopoly and scale are completely different, and amazon certainly does not have a monopoly on anything except perhaps "one-click".
If the publishers don't like amazon's policies, they can stop selling their books to amazon, or charge them more. They won't do that though, because amazon makes them alot of money. Amazon also makes more money on the sale of a new book then it does on the sale of a used one. Perhaps the guild should figure out that amazon knows what it's doing and shut the hell up.
By stripped down linux I don't mean you take away any functionality that an end user would take advantage of, I mean you take away the cruft included by default in certain mainstream distributions that takes time to start, but you'll never use. That, and I completely understood what you meant with the running processes and all. It is possible to automatically restart the processes into their existing state. Since I posted, I have also learned learned that a patch that provides XP-style hibernation exists for linux. I have not tried this yet, so I cannot comment on it's speed.
Let's recap what I said: I think 12 seconds is slow. I can demonstrate comprable configurations with other operating systems (Previous versions of windows included) that are faster, while only compramising the most questionable of functionality (there is some application support required, but there are few applications that don't have the required support). In fact, I mentioned windows 98 as an example before mentioning linux because I assumed that if you were running windows you wouldn't be interested in a non-compatable solution. I did not advocate linux as an alternative to XP, I advocated windows 98 as an alternative to XP.
Furthermore, I mostly blame the lack of uniformity among "standard" x86 machines, and the baggage contained in the PC BIOS for the hacks that masquerade as support for "instant-on" features. Microsoft should not have had to do what they did to get machines to sleep. All recently produced DRAM chips support auto refresh, and with trivial implementation on the hardware side a system could sleep for weeks with almost no power, and then turn back on in miliseconds. I've seen many "solutions" to the problem on the x86 platform, and I've never seen anything come close to the simple, elegant, solutions I've seen on other redily available architectures. Hopefully the move to EFI on x86 will solve the problem, but it's looking like we'll end up yet another standard way to make basic funcionality propriatary (read: broken)
The anti-XP comments I made, while are potentially discrediting to my opinion, are beside the point and completely oftopic. If you'd like to know why I don't like about windows XP, I'd be happy to share my opinions on the matter with you in a more apropriate forum. You have my e-mail address.
Oh great, another "USB doesn't have nearly enough badwidth for x" comment.
Let's be generous and say that the compressed video is using 1MB/second (More data then DVD video) That's only 8Mb/second, leaving enough bandwidth left over for uncompressed CD quailty stereo audio and your input devices. 12Mb/second is still a respectable amount of bandwidth for streaming applications.