"Besides, people who are replacing their real computer with whatever the current "hot seller" is are not the primary customer of computer component retailers."
Newegg are also a COMPUTER retailer. They are already perpared for market shift
"The HDD,RAM can be upgraded w/o voiding the warranty"
Indeed, and I get those from the Egg, as well as external accessories, media, mice, keyboards, monitors...all of which will still be required in the supposed "Post-PC World".
I send many customers to the Egg. I've spend thousands of dollars there and will spend thousands more. Their service, which I've only needed twice for RMA, has been faultless.
Buy and repurpose a bunch of thin clients off Ebay and you can have pretty much that right now. This guy put a bunch of useful info up which can greatly assist selection:
"Plus it might lead to the unfortunate situation where poor people can afford to live without having to beg for scraps."
That was not the case when the US had more smokestack industries. It's better to be "poor" NOW. Poverty is inconvenient now, but we have the worlds fattest poor folks.
Containers tend to be in the teens/low twos no matter what the size.
If you can get a refrigerated container or trailer body, their insulation would serve you well in Northern climates.
If logistics is a hassle and/or you want an L or square structure, bring two twenties instead. They are short enough and light enough to load on a towed flatbed trailer and pull off by attaching a deadman to a tree and driving out from under them.
They are supported by the ends, so no foundation required. A railroad tie under each end will do.
You can mod them with a modest MIG welder or light stick welder (1/16" and 3/32" 6011 works well), and common portable tools. I like my Milwaukee 28V cordless set which has served for years cutting up salvage vehicles. Bring an inverter and charge from your truck lighter. A holesaw with some spray lube works for cutting small holes. A Sawzall or angle grinder with cutting disk (my grinder guard is modded to take SIX-inch discs, usually Radonr from my local welding supply) will do sheet metal.
3M 5200 Marine sealant is the shit, and rated for through-hull. White roof coating slashes heat in summer.
Since you hunt, take a look UNDER the container. Plenty of space for sealed caches of food/water/tools/ordnance. Weld up a box and bolt it in place, then seal over the bolts so they look like a welded area.
Steel is CHEAP. Shipping them back is "intuitive" but not "smart".
Once you depart from container shapes and industrial container combinations, there is no point in using containers because purpose-built steel structures are more efficient to ASSEMBLE vs harvesting and repurposing containers.
Instead, use containers as outbuildings and industrial structure modules for which they are well-suited. Check out Sea Box and other vendor sites for interesting examples.
"Imagine building up an apartment block one unit at a time." until you imagine the plumbing and electrical and interconnects. Fuck that. It's been done but isn't particularly efficient. If you are already in a container port and they are dirt cheap, have at it.
The fundamental problem with making things using a container FORM FACTOR is that form factor is designed for ROAD transport (note the WIDTH) and convenient marine cargo handling.
"The frame makes a compelling component for modular housing."
What frame? There is essentially a panel joint, not a strong "frame", which is why when the side panels are removed the area must be reinforced. ISO container structural integrity relies on the overall design.
Containers are nice space, I like my shop conversion and stormproof storage, but they are essentially "single wide mobile home" living space without major mods.
The equipment to mod them isn't much, so DO get one and play with it if you would like a great outbuilding/shop.
They can be moved with simple equipment. I moved mine by rolling on sections of steel pipe, winching with a MANUAL Wyeth-Scott comealong (!).
BTW I have a SEVERE ISO container fetish and don't care about this Slashvertisement.
The design is asking for leaks. People who handle containers BEAT THE FUCK out of them. Ask any welder who does container repair.
Steel is cheap. The solution to accumulation is repurposing.
Unfortunately, container sales outfits want top dollar. I have three (one 20' standard, two 40' High Cubes) and they make great shop structures. Paint the roof white, camo the sides to blend with local foliage (camo can make 'em disappear), and enjoy.
We REQUIRE machines to interact with the perfectly hostile environment of space. Humans aren't going to trek around Mars in Speedos and sandals.
It makes sense to have superb machines ready LONG before sending tourists, because human labor will be far too precious to waste on anything but (some) decision-making. We are cheap and expendable on Earth, but horrendously expensive to support off-world.
"I have 8 GB in my computer, who gives a shit how much memory Firefox is using?"
My PAE kernel has limited Firefox to 4GB max, leaving 4 for other processes.
Funny/sad, mostly sad.
Firefox isn't intended for other than consumer use.
Want stable and fast? Use Opera.
"Besides, people who are replacing their real computer with whatever the current "hot seller" is are not the primary customer of computer component retailers."
Newegg are also a COMPUTER retailer. They are already perpared for market shift
"The HDD,RAM can be upgraded w/o voiding the warranty"
Indeed, and I get those from the Egg, as well as external accessories, media, mice, keyboards, monitors...all of which will still be required in the supposed "Post-PC World".
Newegg will cheerfully sell those, too.
I send many customers to the Egg. I've spend thousands of dollars there and will spend thousands more. Their service, which I've only needed twice for RMA, has been faultless.
Buy and repurpose a bunch of thin clients off Ebay and you can have pretty much that right now. This guy put a bunch of useful info up which can greatly assist selection:
http://www.parkytowers.me.uk/thin/
Chinese devices sucked once upon a time. Now you are posting from one.
Westinghouse and RCA _ACCEPTED SHIT_, not quality, from their subcontractors.
Quality is a choice.
"Plus it might lead to the unfortunate situation where poor people can afford to live without having to beg for scraps."
That was not the case when the US had more smokestack industries. It's better to be "poor" NOW. Poverty is inconvenient now, but we have the worlds fattest poor folks.
They didn't look like that during the Depression.
"Will robot workers give me cheaper access to services for which I currently get assraped by $400/hr profiteers?"
Containers tend to be in the teens/low twos no matter what the size.
If you can get a refrigerated container or trailer body, their insulation would serve you well in Northern climates.
If logistics is a hassle and/or you want an L or square structure, bring two twenties instead. They are short enough and light enough to load on a towed flatbed trailer and pull off by attaching a deadman to a tree and driving out from under them.
They are supported by the ends, so no foundation required. A railroad tie under each end will do.
You can mod them with a modest MIG welder or light stick welder (1/16" and 3/32" 6011 works well), and common portable tools. I like my Milwaukee 28V cordless set which has served for years cutting up salvage vehicles. Bring an inverter and charge from your truck lighter. A holesaw with some spray lube works for cutting small holes. A Sawzall or angle grinder with cutting disk (my grinder guard is modded to take SIX-inch discs, usually Radonr from my local welding supply) will do sheet metal.
3M 5200 Marine sealant is the shit, and rated for through-hull. White roof coating slashes heat in summer.
Since you hunt, take a look UNDER the container. Plenty of space for sealed caches of food/water/tools/ordnance. Weld up a box and bolt it in place, then seal over the bolts so they look like a welded area.
"And do you really want your children schooled in such a way that they only ever encounter perfect English"
Yes. They will encounter lesser varieties elsewhere.
"Decent white southern democrats "
Contradiction in terms. Nice try though!
"Except that humans are not particularly inflammable"
Sober humans. He was Irish, after all. (runs)
When your accent is a speech impediment, you have a problem.
Steel is CHEAP. Shipping them back is "intuitive" but not "smart".
Once you depart from container shapes and industrial container combinations, there is no point in using containers because purpose-built steel structures are more efficient to ASSEMBLE vs harvesting and repurposing containers.
Instead, use containers as outbuildings and industrial structure modules for which they are well-suited. Check out Sea Box and other vendor sites for interesting examples.
"Imagine building up an apartment block one unit at a time." until you imagine the plumbing and electrical and interconnects. Fuck that. It's been done but isn't particularly efficient. If you are already in a container port and they are dirt cheap, have at it.
The fundamental problem with making things using a container FORM FACTOR is that form factor is designed for ROAD transport (note the WIDTH) and convenient marine cargo handling.
"The frame makes a compelling component for modular housing."
What frame? There is essentially a panel joint, not a strong "frame", which is why when the side panels are removed the area must be reinforced. ISO container structural integrity relies on the overall design.
Containers are nice space, I like my shop conversion and stormproof storage, but they are essentially "single wide mobile home" living space without major mods.
The equipment to mod them isn't much, so DO get one and play with it if you would like a great outbuilding/shop.
They can be moved with simple equipment. I moved mine by rolling on sections of steel pipe, winching with a MANUAL Wyeth-Scott comealong (!).
Heavy cargo could punch through that rollup door like shit through a duck.
I own ISO containers AND ducks, hence the comparison.
It could lead to fucking LEAKS. Just have a standard box delivered. 20's can go by rollback, 40's by Landoll or similar trailer.
Grab yourself a nice forty-foot High Cube, paint the roof white, and add amenities as you like. Easy stuff, yes really.
Me lubs my ISOs.
Because Slashdot is turning to shit.
BTW I have a SEVERE ISO container fetish and don't care about this Slashvertisement.
The design is asking for leaks. People who handle containers BEAT THE FUCK out of them. Ask any welder who does container repair.
Steel is cheap. The solution to accumulation is repurposing.
Unfortunately, container sales outfits want top dollar. I have three (one 20' standard, two 40' High Cubes) and they make great shop structures. Paint the roof white, camo the sides to blend with local foliage (camo can make 'em disappear), and enjoy.
"Does anybody have a backup plan for when their SSDs die? "
Same plan as ever. If it matters, burn it to DVD at slow speed. If it's large and matters, copy to different computers and external hard drives.
"HMA is designed to avoid censorship, not mask illegal activities"
Same shit, different day. The level of protection required is the same, anonymity.
Not EUSia.
We REQUIRE machines to interact with the perfectly hostile environment of space. Humans aren't going to trek around Mars in Speedos and sandals.
It makes sense to have superb machines ready LONG before sending tourists, because human labor will be far too precious to waste on anything but (some) decision-making. We are cheap and expendable on Earth, but horrendously expensive to support off-world.
"I could go for a little slice of trim right about now~"
Me too, everytime I read the Golden Girls Theme Troll.
Kids move quickly, are quiet, and devious. While an "attentive" teacher is distracted by one or some, others may act.
Track 'em and don't pretend there's a reason not to.