SO when the zealouts do things like rip the ads out of a proggy, it is stealing....
let's say it was open source, and their were ads included. Would you take them out??
that will answer your "freedom" question.
2) then why can't I sell open source. It should be my "freedom" as you put it, but in the end, it's just as punishing as microsofts idea of freedom.
I find it pretty funny... After RMS talks about how much he is against corporate greed and the almighty dollar, I find the following link at gnu.org:
http://www.gnu.org/order/order.html
I think the prices are a little steep for a group proclaiming "free"dom.
Also,
I went to barnes and noble the other day, and there was a book book called: "GNU MAKE" by Richard Stallman. It was shrink-wrapped. FREEDOM?? OPEN SOURCE?? I think not
----kz45
ALL it is, is another company trying to get their piece of the P2p pie. Look at aimster, songspy, cutemx, etc. (Do I really need to go on? ). I think, instead of coming out with a new protocol, we should embrace one as a standard. Opennap for example, is a great, OPEN., standard.
the people that want electronic voting, aren't interesdted in this. They would like it, so there is one less time to get off their ass. Voting right from their computer. I think, to avoid major fraud, we should stay with what we have.
It's kinda funny, the same people everyone was once fighting for (napster) is now making a deal with the devil (self explanatory). For some, $5 will be fine a month (morality and such). I, on the other hand will still use filenavigator (http://www.filenavigator.com) with opennap servers (http://opennap.sourceforge.net).
But...Napster still hasn't won. They still have 4 other record companies to deal with.
this isn't all true. OpenNap is a glorified IRC. Napster Inc. isn't about freedom, they are about control. If they win (I hope they do so other types of software will stay legal), it just means one company having control over online music over another.
here is the basic Idea that im trying to show you: person X violates copyrights, to 75% of slashdotters, it's allright. Person Y violates the GPL, and those same 75% claim it's a "violation of our rights". The evidence is shown almost every day in at least one article on slashdot.If you don't understand this, im sorry, I can't help you.
im just trying to get my point across..but you don't seem to understand it at all....
I fully understand what the GPL/free software movement is/is all about. But all theses posts don't cover ANY of the points I was addressing. The artists never did anything to you. Why do you have to violate their rights??
the main point that I had was: when person X violates GPL, they get attacked by slashdot. When person Y infringes on someone's copyright, slashdot looks the other way or claims it's their right. This is hypocrisy..
it seems like the only people are "in the know" around here are the ones that lick the balls of slashdotters. What would have happened if Metallica had said: "man napster is great, it rocks!"...slashdot would have a whole different attitude. That alone Proves that slashdotters have no interest in art at all, just money and greed. Why stop listening to a group that you previously liked, because of their views on something? Art is Art. I still think Metallica is great, because I am one of the few here that don't base my likes and dislikes on money.
The copyright isn't any more or less evil than the GPL is. They are both licenses with two different opinions on how things should work. So then why is it alright to violate the copyright? It's fucking hypocritical...that's all I have to say...
You don't see the GPL being openly violated...do you? If there is an instance of such a thing happening, you can bet the slashdot-police are all over it. It's all a matter of control....
------instances of the slashdot police/hypocrisy-----
Slashdot Mirror
SO when the zealouts do things like rip the ads out of a proggy, it is stealing.... let's say it was open source, and their were ads included. Would you take them out?? that will answer your "freedom" question. 2) then why can't I sell open source. It should be my "freedom" as you put it, but in the end, it's just as punishing as microsofts idea of freedom.
I find it pretty funny... After RMS talks about how much he is against corporate greed and the almighty dollar, I find the following link at gnu.org: http://www.gnu.org/order/order.html I think the prices are a little steep for a group proclaiming "free"dom. Also, I went to barnes and noble the other day, and there was a book book called: "GNU MAKE" by Richard Stallman. It was shrink-wrapped. FREEDOM?? OPEN SOURCE?? I think not ----kz45
I know! I was trying to add a little comedy into the conversation. splooge? I mean, come on!
ALL it is, is another company trying to get their piece of the P2p pie. Look at aimster, songspy, cutemx, etc. (Do I really need to go on? ). I think, instead of coming out with a new protocol, we should embrace one as a standard. Opennap for example, is a great, OPEN., standard.
actually, if you pay attention, when it looks like The courts are starting to believe Gore's Bullshit, the stock market begins to crash. 'Nuff said
splooge.com? Is this porno related?
It was called IYoink. It didn't work very well. I don't think BHive will either. IRC servers are too unstable.
what kind of processing power does a dreamcast have (comparable to an X86)?? and how much do they cost? Kz45
the people that want electronic voting, aren't interesdted in this. They would like it, so there is one less time to get off their ass. Voting right from their computer. I think, to avoid major fraud, we should stay with what we have.
yes, opennap, you can find almost as many songs.
It's kinda funny, the same people everyone was once fighting for (napster) is now making a deal with the devil (self explanatory). For some, $5 will be fine a month (morality and such). I, on the other hand will still use filenavigator (http://www.filenavigator.com) with opennap servers (http://opennap.sourceforge.net). But...Napster still hasn't won. They still have 4 other record companies to deal with.
this isn't all true. OpenNap is a glorified IRC. Napster Inc. isn't about freedom, they are about control. If they win (I hope they do so other types of software will stay legal), it just means one company having control over online music over another.
you guys should really check it out (opennap thhat is).
JUST USE the opennap networks!!!!!!!
they will ALWAYS be free. THey also have just as many users/files as napster does.
but remember, according to the slashdot community....it's not about the money. it's about "freedom". But, facts about OSS can be changed dynamically.
----The beauty of the slashdot community
banners are there so people can make a living. Without such things, you wouldn't be on the internet right now. It's called competition.
what about a little program called iMesh?? they are based in israel. Why do you think the RIAA went after scour exchange instead of them??
the people that die are the ones buying it. It's their own FUCKING fault for getting cigs. in the first place. It's not the company's fault at all.
kinda like saying: guns kill, people use guns to kill, LETS BLAME THE GUN MANUFACTURERS!
I think we should start taking responsibility for our actions.
which services will the RIAA/MPAA target next?? I think clones such as mynapster and Filenavigator will suffer the heat. The RIAA never kept up with technology, and will now suffer the consequences. If anything, the all powerful Gnutella will prevail.
I think the only way that it could compete with the Mp3 standard, is if its compression rate was at least double, such as 24:1.
here is the basic Idea that im trying to show you: person X violates copyrights, to 75% of slashdotters, it's allright. Person Y violates the GPL, and those same 75% claim it's a "violation of our rights". The evidence is shown almost every day in at least one article on slashdot.If you don't understand this, im sorry, I can't help you.
im just trying to get my point across..but you don't seem to understand it at all....
----freedom isn't a one-way street
your definition of poor logic: an idea that you cannot understand.
every one of your posts has show me you are just another product of slashdot's propaganda.
you're funny....
don't you have a life, or do ya like following me around in SLashdot discussions????
'Nuff said
I fully understand what the GPL/free software movement is/is all about. But all theses posts don't cover ANY of the points I was addressing. The artists never did anything to you. Why do you have to violate their rights??
the main point that I had was: when person X violates GPL, they get attacked by slashdot. When person Y infringes on someone's copyright, slashdot looks the other way or claims it's their right. This is hypocrisy..
it seems like the only people are "in the know" around here are the ones that lick the balls of slashdotters. What would have happened if Metallica had said: "man napster is great, it rocks!"...slashdot would have a whole different attitude. That alone Proves that slashdotters have no interest in art at all, just money and greed. Why stop listening to a group that you previously liked, because of their views on something? Art is Art. I still think Metallica is great, because I am one of the few here that don't base my likes and dislikes on money.
The copyright isn't any more or less evil than the GPL is. They are both licenses with two different opinions on how things should work. So then why is it alright to violate the copyright? It's fucking hypocritical...that's all I have to say...
You don't see the GPL being openly violated...do you? If there is an instance of such a thing happening, you can bet the slashdot-police are all over it. It's all a matter of control....
------instances of the slashdot police/hypocrisy-----
BeOS Boo-Boo: Violating The GPL
Abit Violating The GPL?
GPL Violation - NVIDIA
Possible GPL Violation?
wow? patents are alright...but only for the OSS community
19 Patents Given To GPL Community