He definetly did not. Carter and Paul Volcker, whome Carter appointed chair of the Federal Reserve, were fighting inflation and with that came some necessary bad medicine. Once inflation was conquered, the economy took off because of it (and the new, low interest rates). So yes Carter deserves some blame for the recession, but also deserves the credit for the boom in the 80's a lot more than Reagan. Sure, you can argue that Reagan's deregulating helped the economy, but his multi-billion dollar deficits have grown into the trillions, where they might linger indefinetly.
We have the lowest unemployment in 30 years except for a few months in the 90's
Keep in mind who gets counted in the unemployment rate. Once you start comparing the numbers of jobs lost under Bush to the number of jobs created, the picture looks considerably less rosey.
Clinton was lucky. He came in after the dip in '91 or so, and things were doing well when he started. He definitely didn't screw things up, but he also didn't cause the boom of the 90's either.
It can also be argued that Clinton does deserve a good bit of credit because his tax increase spurred the economy. Yes, the idea is anethma to the Republican faithful, but the increase turned large deficits into a suprlus. Lower deficit == less inflation, which is good for the economy.
Which is of course retarded, since the majoraty of Americans, the rich included, have done better economically under Democratic presidents than Republican presidents.
whose rhetoric is filled thinly-veiled hatred for rich people.
Not rich people, rich people who don't want to pay their share in taxes. The richer you are the more you have directly or inderectly benefited from tax dollars, so why shouldn't you put some more in as well? They benefit from police protection, fire protection, interstate highways, public education, research grants, patents and copyrights, and a government that works aggressively to open new markets and fight "piracy" abroad. Hell yes I expect them to pay more of their income as a percentage than a guy who supports 4 kids on $25k a year.
as long as those others don't try and express their religious views
Translation: "as long as those others don't try and shove their religious views down other people's throats"
or views they don't agree with, or are conservatives
Translation: "are catching up (about 30 years too late) to the fact that the media wont challenge conservatives on their lies, so they had better get off their asses and do it themselves"
Like many protests, it started out peaceful and ended up violent or stupid.
And as often as not, that's the fault of overzealous police, not protestors. Spraying 80 year old women in the face with mace and so on.
And the Republicans probably ARE hoping for violence protests, so they can show them in campaign ads and portray Bush as the "law and order" candidate. If it worked for their man in '68, why not '04?
...that is willing to challenge candidates and elected officials, and our press does not, unless the candidate or official happens to be a democrat. Half the reason for this is that the media is so afraid of accusations of being "liberally biased" that conservatives get a free pass, and the other half is that conservatives are much more organized and spend a lot more money on the media.
Want proof? Just look at the media's treatment of Clinton, Dean or Gore, and contrast their obsession with made-up scandals with their lack of interest in Bush's schenanigans. Waging a war while cutting benefits for soldiers, keeping people imprisoned indefinetly without a trial or saying "if you pay taxes, you'll get a tax cut" while compeltely ignoring those who only pay payroll taxes. Or how about how Bush can't hold an open press conference to save his life, or stand to be interviewed without a list of pre-approved questions?
Then add whatever set of control panel items you want.
Not that simple. For example, to get to the Mouse and Keyboard control planel, you have to run main.cpl. INTL.cpl for international settings. Most of them aren't easily guessable words, so you're going to have to look them up. I couldn't find a list of all the widgets in Windows help, and only found one on the 5th page turned up by Google.
So, I repeat: pain in the ass. Also, if you share a box with a large number of other people, either you have to share one administrator account or all have administrator accounts to go with your user accounts. Either way, thats an additonal security hazard, and an additional PITA.
How is doing this in Linux any easier?
Well, for starters, if you're working on the command line you know the config files should be in the/etc/ directory, so its a simple enough matter to do "sudo vim/etc/apache/http.conf". If you are doing it in the gui, KDE has authentication widgets, and I would assume Gnome would as well.
So, in summary: with Mac OS X and Linux the authentication widgets are Right There, comapred to Windows where you have to search for everything.
This EXACT same thing can occur on Linux, BSD, AND Mac OS X.
No, actually it can't, because you don't have to run as root all the time, because you can easily re-authenticate your account password for administrator access. Which means that userland programs that you run don't run with super-user privledges. That's not the case for Windows.
Get a clue.
You must like the taste of crow, and your own foot.
My take on it is that American broadcasting of the Olympics sucks ass because NBC presents the Olympics rather than covering them. In other words, we are treated to edited clips of the most watched events and sappy "overcomming adversity" spots, with some clueless boob of a commentator who is convinced that they have to chatter their mouth off at all times.
Contrast that to, oh say, the coverage of the World Cup I saw a few years ago on BBC Canada (or maybe it was World, I'm not sure). Anyway, the commentators STFU most of the time unless they had something meaningful to say. Unfortunatly I haven't seen their coverage of the Olympics since the OC are a bunch of greedy bastards and sell monopolized access to the games.
A simple solution would be if they would auction off the Olympics not as a single package, but as events. So NBC would get track and field, but you could catch fencing, boxing or judo live on ESPN.
Well, perhaps it is. But no other Windows firewall software (e.g. the one they are recommending) solves the problem.
So they do. That doesn't change the veracity of the article, just means that it would have been a better one if they had talked about privledge seperation and how it affect security, rather than only focusing on the firewall.
When I want to run a GUI application as another user, I create a shortcut to it, check the 'run as different user' box and then execute the shortcut.
Sure, that works, but it's a big pain which ensures that the vast majority of users will just run as an administrator rather than having to research, make and keep track of esoteric shortcuts.
I don't understand that, sorry. What do you mean?
I mean that "run as" doesn't work like sudo, in that it allows you to re-enter your own password to gain privledges. With "run as", you have to know the password for an administrator account rather than just your own, which can cause more security problems. If you have one machine with a lot of users, how do you keep track of who makes changes to what if there is just one shared admin account that everyone can log in to? Or are you going to have a seperate admin account to go with every user account?
First of all, if the user using the machine is running as an admin, there is ABSOLUTELY NO WAY TO PREVENT THE FIREWALL FROM BEING DISABLED BY A 3RD PARTY PIECE OF SOFTWARE. Period. Guess what! Zonealarm and Symantec's stuff has the same 'fault'.
The fault is that Windows has shitty priveldge seperation. You don't see this problem occuring under Linux, BSD or Mac OS X.
Uh, just how much easier do you think it can get that "Run As" ?
Uh, vastly easier? On a scale of almost biblical proportions? OS X for example has sudo at the command line and has a security feature built into gui widgets so you have to reauthenticate to make system changes. And as the other poster mentioned, trying to get to control panels and other system widgets with "run as" is a serious pain in the ass.
This is a big problem because of the piss-poor privledge seperation in Windows. With Linux or Mac OS X, you have to re-enter your password to make system changes, either in a gui widget or at the command line. There isn't anything like sudo for Windows, so its a pain in the ass not to run as an administrator (no, "run as" does not count, since it doesn't work in the gui and its for an account other than your own). Which means that any program you run is going to have super-user priveldges. Which means that the next Internet Explorer trojan could turn off your firewall.
My favorite bad movie is Protector, starring Jackie Chan. Jackie is a cop in New York City, and the movie starts with him and his partner going into a bar. For no reason whatsoever, a bunch of guys with sub-machine guns go in and shoot the place up, killing Jackie's partner. Jackie promptly goes nuts, takes out a couple of bad guys and chases the last, on foot, all the way out to the harbor.
The bad guy steals a yaught and takes off into the ocean. Jackie hops into a speedboat and chases after the guy, and alerts the coast guard. Okay, so this is the situation: bad guy in a yaught, Jackie following in a speed boat, a coast guard helicopter overhead and a cutter out in the ocean. This guy is not getting away. However, Jackie orders the helicopter to drop a ladder, steers the speed boat into the yaught, blowing both of them up, and grabbing onto the ladder at the last second.
Okay, so this is a martial arts movie, which constantly vie with porno flicks for worst plots, so I could work with this. However, later in the movie, Jackie and his best friend raid a opium factory in Hong Kong. His friend gets knocked unconcious, and Jackie just leaves him there! And doesn't really seem to care.
So, blows up a couple of boats to kill a bad guy who has no chance of escape, and leaves his best friend to die. Hmm.....
Whoops, had my companies mixed up there. Would help if iRiver came up with their own iOrigional iNaming scheme.
I'd try to include some info from informed forum discussions
Only problem is that you'll find a *great* many "informed opinions" when it comes to subjective analysis, especially when the subject is audio. From my standpoint, digital audio is digital audio. I'm as skeptical of claims that one unit plays the same mp3 better than a different unit, just as I'd expect that the $15 elCheapo compact disk player at Wal-Mart would perform every bit as well as Joe Audiophile's $2,000 compact disk player. Now its possible that one unit might have a better decoder than the next. But I doubt that you could find one noticably better than the iPod, since Apple has full licenses for both the AAC and MP3 codecs.
but usually some iPod nut comes in and burns the place down.
Or some anti-Apple fanboy does the same...
I'll keep looking but I have no time.
Why don't we just call this one good, and note that the iPod has good software and a great interface, and some of iRiver's models get better battery life and have some unique features like a web server and voice recording. Deal?:-)
Sound quality has also been proven superior, also with the Creative.
Proven by whome? How? Proven by the same people who insist that you have to have a $5,000 per foot pure silver cable for real fidelity? And have they considered the possiblity that the Rio comes with better headphones? That would still mean that you'd have better quality with the default headphones, but it wouldn't mean the hardware is superior.
A millimeter more at most, and reliability on them has been very good.
That is about the same size, but how durable is it? There are many cases of people dropping their Pods and they keep working fine. How about the Rio's?
True.:) Most of what bugs me about the "Doom suxors!!!!" posts is that they all seem to be written by people who made up their minds to hate the game before they ever bought/downloaded it. Here's a good example of a review by someone who was dissapointed by the gameplay. He makes the point the Deux Ex 2 is a good game with a bad expereince, while Doom 3 is a bad game with a great experience.
Get the e-vga one if u stil can. Its got Farcry free with it!:-]
I would consider it, but I got a good deal on a PNY card. Actually, I ordered it, then my order was cancelled because PNY raised the price on the reseller by $100 after the fact. At that point I put PNY on my "do not buy, ever" list. However, the reseller strong armed PNY into honoring their origional price, and I reinstated my order...not that I'm taking PNY off my list, the only reason I'm still buying it is because PNY is taking a loss on the card. Much like how the only Microsoft product I will ever purchase is an Xbox, and that's because it will cost them money.:)
Because you were making statements as if they were factual and applied to everyone. Duh.
Get off the net and games for a while.(Read as: Don't bother replying)
I can't as my 6800 GT is backordered. Unlike you, however, who obviously can play Far Cry, The Greatest Game Every, who also took time to come to this thread and uber fickle.
Thats all I'm fighting. Half-life 1 was better with this...
How so? The enemies with ranged attacks shot at you as soon as they saw you, and the ones with melee attacks charged. Only the marines would duck and find cover.
I dont even get decent round barrels !
That IS odd. They brought out curved surfaces in Q3A, so you'd think that by now that wouldn't be an issue.
The useful thing is that you can have your Karma hooked up to your stereo - yes, the Karma dock has RCA outputs
Whoop de do, that's hardly a unique feature. Whats preventing you from doing the same with your iPod? Nothing, if you have a miniplug connection. If you don't, Apple will sell you a Monster Cable RCA adaptor. Or you can buy a cheaper brand in any electronics store.
Also, you can use more than one computer to transfer music to it without having to swap plugs and move cables, which has definitely handy
Don't know much about Firewire, do you? Not only can you plug an iPod into more than one computer at once, you can also use it as a boot device. Good luck doing that with your Karma, unless you have one of those rare motherboards that supports USB booting.
Last but no least, you can stream music from the Karma to your computer, which has plenty of possiblities.
You can do the same thing with your iPod; connect it to your computer and it shows up in iTunes, playlists and all. Yawn.
and transfer music to it from a computer in another room.
The only use for that would be if you used your player primarily as a part of your stereo system rather than as a portable device. A decidely small percentage buyers. Now, how many of those are going to have ethernet wired out to their stereo. A smaller percentage yet. Now, how many aren't going to find it more convienient to just plug it into their computer? Now, how exactly does it transfer the files? Ftp? Unless it supports syncing playlists and transfer queueing, its going to be a far bigger pain to do this over a network than if its connected to a computer.
Next time, think before you post.
Speak for yourself Scooter. A web server on an mp3 player is still a novelty, not a killer feature.
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Carter definitely made things worse.
True.
Reagan definitely made things better.
He definetly did not. Carter and Paul Volcker, whome Carter appointed chair of the Federal Reserve, were fighting inflation and with that came some necessary bad medicine. Once inflation was conquered, the economy took off because of it (and the new, low interest rates). So yes Carter deserves some blame for the recession, but also deserves the credit for the boom in the 80's a lot more than Reagan. Sure, you can argue that Reagan's deregulating helped the economy, but his multi-billion dollar deficits have grown into the trillions, where they might linger indefinetly.
We have the lowest unemployment in 30 years except for a few months in the 90's
Keep in mind who gets counted in the unemployment rate. Once you start comparing the numbers of jobs lost under Bush to the number of jobs created, the picture looks considerably less rosey.
Clinton was lucky. He came in after the dip in '91 or so, and things were doing well when he started. He definitely didn't screw things up, but he also didn't cause the boom of the 90's either.
It can also be argued that Clinton does deserve a good bit of credit because his tax increase spurred the economy. Yes, the idea is anethma to the Republican faithful, but the increase turned large deficits into a suprlus. Lower deficit == less inflation, which is good for the economy.
Of course rich people support Republicans.
Which is of course retarded, since the majoraty of Americans, the rich included, have done better economically under Democratic presidents than Republican presidents.
whose rhetoric is filled thinly-veiled hatred for rich people.
Not rich people, rich people who don't want to pay their share in taxes. The richer you are the more you have directly or inderectly benefited from tax dollars, so why shouldn't you put some more in as well? They benefit from police protection, fire protection, interstate highways, public education, research grants, patents and copyrights, and a government that works aggressively to open new markets and fight "piracy" abroad. Hell yes I expect them to pay more of their income as a percentage than a guy who supports 4 kids on $25k a year.
as long as those others don't try and express their religious views
Translation: "as long as those others don't try and shove their religious views down other people's throats"
or views they don't agree with, or are conservatives
Translation: "are catching up (about 30 years too late) to the fact that the media wont challenge conservatives on their lies, so they had better get off their asses and do it themselves"
Like many protests, it started out peaceful and ended up violent or stupid.
And as often as not, that's the fault of overzealous police, not protestors. Spraying 80 year old women in the face with mace and so on.
And the Republicans probably ARE hoping for violence protests, so they can show them in campaign ads and portray Bush as the "law and order" candidate. If it worked for their man in '68, why not '04?
"Southern Strategy"
...that is willing to challenge candidates and elected officials, and our press does not, unless the candidate or official happens to be a democrat. Half the reason for this is that the media is so afraid of accusations of being "liberally biased" that conservatives get a free pass, and the other half is that conservatives are much more organized and spend a lot more money on the media.
Want proof? Just look at the media's treatment of Clinton, Dean or Gore, and contrast their obsession with made-up scandals with their lack of interest in Bush's schenanigans. Waging a war while cutting benefits for soldiers, keeping people imprisoned indefinetly without a trial or saying "if you pay taxes, you'll get a tax cut" while compeltely ignoring those who only pay payroll taxes. Or how about how Bush can't hold an open press conference to save his life, or stand to be interviewed without a list of pre-approved questions?
You sort of had me going right up until you got to Ashcroft.
- runas
/user:Whatever ControlPanelWidgetName
/user:Whatever mmc
Not that simple. For example, to get to the Mouse and Keyboard control planel, you have to run main.cpl. INTL.cpl for international settings. Most of them aren't easily guessable words, so you're going to have to look them up. I couldn't find a list of all the widgets in Windows help, and only found one on the 5th page turned up by Google.or
runas
Then add whatever set of control panel items you want.
So, I repeat: pain in the ass. Also, if you share a box with a large number of other people, either you have to share one administrator account or all have administrator accounts to go with your user accounts. Either way, thats an additonal security hazard, and an additional PITA.
How is doing this in Linux any easier?
Well, for starters, if you're working on the command line you know the config files should be in the
So, in summary: with Mac OS X and Linux the authentication widgets are Right There, comapred to Windows where you have to search for everything.
This EXACT same thing can occur on Linux, BSD, AND Mac OS X.
No, actually it can't, because you don't have to run as root all the time, because you can easily re-authenticate your account password for administrator access. Which means that userland programs that you run don't run with super-user privledges. That's not the case for Windows.
Get a clue.
You must like the taste of crow, and your own foot.
My take on it is that American broadcasting of the Olympics sucks ass because NBC presents the Olympics rather than covering them. In other words, we are treated to edited clips of the most watched events and sappy "overcomming adversity" spots, with some clueless boob of a commentator who is convinced that they have to chatter their mouth off at all times.
Contrast that to, oh say, the coverage of the World Cup I saw a few years ago on BBC Canada (or maybe it was World, I'm not sure). Anyway, the commentators STFU most of the time unless they had something meaningful to say. Unfortunatly I haven't seen their coverage of the Olympics since the OC are a bunch of greedy bastards and sell monopolized access to the games.
A simple solution would be if they would auction off the Olympics not as a single package, but as events. So NBC would get track and field, but you could catch fencing, boxing or judo live on ESPN.
Well, perhaps it is. But no other Windows firewall software (e.g. the one they are recommending) solves the problem.
So they do. That doesn't change the veracity of the article, just means that it would have been a better one if they had talked about privledge seperation and how it affect security, rather than only focusing on the firewall.
When I want to run a GUI application as another user, I create a shortcut to it, check the 'run as different user' box and then execute the shortcut.
Sure, that works, but it's a big pain which ensures that the vast majority of users will just run as an administrator rather than having to research, make and keep track of esoteric shortcuts.
I don't understand that, sorry. What do you mean?
I mean that "run as" doesn't work like sudo, in that it allows you to re-enter your own password to gain privledges. With "run as", you have to know the password for an administrator account rather than just your own, which can cause more security problems. If you have one machine with a lot of users, how do you keep track of who makes changes to what if there is just one shared admin account that everyone can log in to? Or are you going to have a seperate admin account to go with every user account?
This is slashdot. \. is Liberal, it leans to the left.
If the media source isn't conservative, panders to conservative ideas, and is overly hostile to anything non-conservative, it must be liberal!
Ha. The typical slashdotter thinks government should provide "free" broadband, and force me to pay for it whether I like it or not.
Sure. Bet you can't even find three posts that make that that claim in all seriousness, much less a majority.
First of all, if the user using the machine is running as an admin, there is ABSOLUTELY NO WAY TO PREVENT THE FIREWALL FROM BEING DISABLED BY A 3RD PARTY PIECE OF SOFTWARE. Period. Guess what! Zonealarm and Symantec's stuff has the same 'fault'.
The fault is that Windows has shitty priveldge seperation. You don't see this problem occuring under Linux, BSD or Mac OS X.
All this FUD makes me sick.
All you Microsoft apologists make me sick.
Uh, just how much easier do you think it can get that "Run As" ?
Uh, vastly easier? On a scale of almost biblical proportions? OS X for example has sudo at the command line and has a security feature built into gui widgets so you have to reauthenticate to make system changes. And as the other poster mentioned, trying to get to control panels and other system widgets with "run as" is a serious pain in the ass.
This is a big problem because of the piss-poor privledge seperation in Windows. With Linux or Mac OS X, you have to re-enter your password to make system changes, either in a gui widget or at the command line. There isn't anything like sudo for Windows, so its a pain in the ass not to run as an administrator (no, "run as" does not count, since it doesn't work in the gui and its for an account other than your own). Which means that any program you run is going to have super-user priveldges. Which means that the next Internet Explorer trojan could turn off your firewall.
My favorite bad movie is Protector, starring Jackie Chan. Jackie is a cop in New York City, and the movie starts with him and his partner going into a bar. For no reason whatsoever, a bunch of guys with sub-machine guns go in and shoot the place up, killing Jackie's partner. Jackie promptly goes nuts, takes out a couple of bad guys and chases the last, on foot, all the way out to the harbor.
The bad guy steals a yaught and takes off into the ocean. Jackie hops into a speedboat and chases after the guy, and alerts the coast guard. Okay, so this is the situation: bad guy in a yaught, Jackie following in a speed boat, a coast guard helicopter overhead and a cutter out in the ocean. This guy is not getting away. However, Jackie orders the helicopter to drop a ladder, steers the speed boat into the yaught, blowing both of them up, and grabbing onto the ladder at the last second.
Okay, so this is a martial arts movie, which constantly vie with porno flicks for worst plots, so I could work with this. However, later in the movie, Jackie and his best friend raid a opium factory in Hong Kong. His friend gets knocked unconcious, and Jackie just leaves him there! And doesn't really seem to care.
So, blows up a couple of boats to kill a bad guy who has no chance of escape, and leaves his best friend to die. Hmm.....
Only the pool/dart scene.
"hey man, you got a fuckin dart in your neck"
No, it sucked ass. Big, hairy, trucker ass.
Also, nobody is talking about the Rio but you.
:-)
Whoops, had my companies mixed up there. Would help if iRiver came up with their own iOrigional iNaming scheme.
I'd try to include some info from informed forum discussions
Only problem is that you'll find a *great* many "informed opinions" when it comes to subjective analysis, especially when the subject is audio. From my standpoint, digital audio is digital audio. I'm as skeptical of claims that one unit plays the same mp3 better than a different unit, just as I'd expect that the $15 elCheapo compact disk player at Wal-Mart would perform every bit as well as Joe Audiophile's $2,000 compact disk player. Now its possible that one unit might have a better decoder than the next. But I doubt that you could find one noticably better than the iPod, since Apple has full licenses for both the AAC and MP3 codecs.
but usually some iPod nut comes in and burns the place down.
Or some anti-Apple fanboy does the same...
I'll keep looking but I have no time.
Why don't we just call this one good, and note that the iPod has good software and a great interface, and some of iRiver's models get better battery life and have some unique features like a web server and voice recording. Deal?
You're fishing for answers.
:)
No, I'm just not going to do all the work of proving your points for you.
Don't assume submitters would always be so daft, look it up and learn.
See above. Don't be lazy...you guys are asserting that the Rio is just as good/better as the iPod, lets see some (impartial)links to back it up.
16 hours is no joke.
That is good.
Sound quality has also been proven superior, also with the Creative.
Proven by whome? How? Proven by the same people who insist that you have to have a $5,000 per foot pure silver cable for real fidelity? And have they considered the possiblity that the Rio comes with better headphones? That would still mean that you'd have better quality with the default headphones, but it wouldn't mean the hardware is superior.
A millimeter more at most, and reliability on them has been very good.
That is about the same size, but how durable is it? There are many cases of people dropping their Pods and they keep working fine. How about the Rio's?
What did u expect? This is /.
:) Most of what bugs me about the "Doom suxors!!!!" posts is that they all seem to be written by people who made up their minds to hate the game before they ever bought/downloaded it. Here's a good example of a review by someone who was dissapointed by the gameplay. He makes the point the Deux Ex 2 is a good game with a bad expereince, while Doom 3 is a bad game with a great experience.
:-]
:)
True.
Get the e-vga one if u stil can. Its got Farcry free with it!
I would consider it, but I got a good deal on a PNY card. Actually, I ordered it, then my order was cancelled because PNY raised the price on the reseller by $100 after the fact. At that point I put PNY on my "do not buy, ever" list. However, the reseller strong armed PNY into honoring their origional price, and I reinstated my order...not that I'm taking PNY off my list, the only reason I'm still buying it is because PNY is taking a loss on the card. Much like how the only Microsoft product I will ever purchase is an Xbox, and that's because it will cost them money.
It should be obvious that its just my opinioin.
Because you were making statements as if they were factual and applied to everyone. Duh.
Get off the net and games for a while.(Read as: Don't bother replying)
I can't as my 6800 GT is backordered. Unlike you, however, who obviously can play Far Cry, The Greatest Game Every, who also took time to come to this thread and uber fickle.
Thats all I'm fighting. Half-life 1 was better with this...
How so? The enemies with ranged attacks shot at you as soon as they saw you, and the ones with melee attacks charged. Only the marines would duck and find cover.
I dont even get decent round barrels !
That IS odd. They brought out curved surfaces in Q3A, so you'd think that by now that wouldn't be an issue.
The useful thing is that you can have your Karma hooked up to your stereo - yes, the Karma dock has RCA outputs
Whoop de do, that's hardly a unique feature. Whats preventing you from doing the same with your iPod? Nothing, if you have a miniplug connection. If you don't, Apple will sell you a Monster Cable RCA adaptor. Or you can buy a cheaper brand in any electronics store.
Also, you can use more than one computer to transfer music to it without having to swap plugs and move cables, which has definitely handy
Don't know much about Firewire, do you? Not only can you plug an iPod into more than one computer at once, you can also use it as a boot device. Good luck doing that with your Karma, unless you have one of those rare motherboards that supports USB booting.
Last but no least, you can stream music from the Karma to your computer, which has plenty of possiblities.
You can do the same thing with your iPod; connect it to your computer and it shows up in iTunes, playlists and all. Yawn.
and transfer music to it from a computer in another room.
The only use for that would be if you used your player primarily as a part of your stereo system rather than as a portable device. A decidely small percentage buyers. Now, how many of those are going to have ethernet wired out to their stereo. A smaller percentage yet. Now, how many aren't going to find it more convienient to just plug it into their computer? Now, how exactly does it transfer the files? Ftp? Unless it supports syncing playlists and transfer queueing, its going to be a far bigger pain to do this over a network than if its connected to a computer.
Next time, think before you post.
Speak for yourself Scooter. A web server on an mp3 player is still a novelty, not a killer feature.