Because it uses a different connector, and anyone who can afford the expensive devices that use it probably wont be running them on a stripped down machine.
You forgot to mention what for. They're being sued because they are trying to get employees to break their NDA's and post the information online. They also have delusions of grandeur and think that because they 1) write something online and 2) somebody reads it, that they are suddenly now "journalists". And of course they don't want the responsibility that comes with journalism, just the rights and prestige. You also forgot to mention that Apple isn't sueing these asshats for money, but for the names of the employees who broke their NDA's.
refusing to release source for a project they've touted for years as their open source jewel in the crown
Nobody cares. Really. And Apple it's only the kernel on Intel that's closed, the rest of Darwin X86 is still there.
releasing hardware that, frankly, is no more innovative or interesting than any other PC manfuacturer's
Really? How many other OEM's are shipping all their new computers with a built in camera and a remote?
nd their software is over-proprietary as usual (Pilgrim mentions Mail.app's switch to a closed mailbox format
"As usual" how? And yes it is annoying that the Mail.app switch wasn't publicized by Apple, but there are other mail clients out there, and you could probably copy over an old version of Mail from a different system and use it just fine.
I'd had my fight with iTunes during the 4.x to 6.x debacle
Which was...? I've been using it all that time, and by making sure to stay away from "consolidate library" and doing my own file management of the songs, I haven't had any problems.
lol...careful. Saying *anything* negative about Apple on/. can be hazardous to your karma.
Hardly. Any reported hardware problem with Apple hardware makes it onto the Slashdot front page within a matter of days. People complain about the Macbooks overheating ALL THE TIME. Dell can have far worse problems with their hardware, but it takes a laptop battery exploding and starting on fire before it's news here. You will still get modded down if you troll, however, which makes me think what's really going on is you guys miss the days when any factually challenged, Dvorak type quip would get you an automatic +5 Informative. Case in point:
The other thing I don't get is how the rabid Apple fanbase on this site which ordinarily is extremely anti-DRM seems to not even notice that Apple is all about DRM, lock-in, and every other negative thing you can think of that comes with it.
No, they aren't. The only place you'll find DRM is on the iTMS store, which nobody forces you to use. There is no product activation, and not even a serial number unless you are buying OS X Server.
No, he's not. For songs sold online, the RIAA takes the artist's paltry royalty fee and further reduces it by deducting the same distribution costs they do for physical media. This is obviously a crock as the physical costs for online distrubion are going to be almost nothing per song.
It drives me up a wall how this company always gets a free pass on this and other sites.
Um, they don't. How many stories have we seen on the overheating issue with the Macbooks? How about the easily scratched Nano screens or the the swelling laptop batteries? It takes a Dell battery exploding and starting on fire before they get mentioned, but any issues with Apple hardware and it's on the front page of Slashdot the next day.
I'm talking about the eye humping that occurs, manifesting itself into biased moderation for Apple and Nintendo.
And I'm saying that, like other alledged forms of bias, your Apple and Nintendo bias simply doesn't exist. Go find me one actual +5 Apple fanboy post and I'll show you five that are complaining about Apple's products, Apple's policies, or calling Jobs a supreme asshole. Methinks you are nostalgic for the days when any Dvorak style crazed ranting about how "belegaurd Apple is going to die" would get an automatic +5 Informative, so now any resonable post looks like "bias" to you.
As for Nintendo, the buzz surrounding them comes from the high price of the PS3, the motion sensing controller, the high price of the 360, the high price of the PS3, the expected low pricing of the Wii and it's games, the high price of the PS3, the huge catalog of old Nintendo games that will be rereleased for the Wii, and lastly, the high price of the PS3.
If the Wii and the PS3 were being released at $350 and $400 respectivley, people would be wowing over Sony's console and would still be bitching about Nintendo going from a great name like the Revolution to the retarded Wii.
What the other finds "right" another man can experience this as "wrong". Clinton involved adultery and lying; which is in the christian way "wrong" because you cannot sleep with someone else when married.
Right, which is why the right wing went after the following Republican politicians for having affairs just as hard as they went after Clinton: Gengrich, Guiliani, McCain, and of course Henry Hyde, the man in charge of the drive to impeach Clinton in the House of Representatives.
Except they didn't, which just further exposes them to be a bunch of hypocrites engaging in blatant double standards.
I seem to recall the declaration of war having been brought forward in Congress. CNN.com - Senate approves Iraq war resolution - Oct. 11, 2002
You recall wrong. Congress authorized the use of force, which is a different kettle of fish from a declaration of war, which is what the president has to have to go around suspending parts of the Constitution.
They can go somewhere else. No one forces you to eat at any particular restraunt, and you have no right to tell an owner he can't allow smoking there.
Okay. So if I start a restuarant and none of my workers wash their hands after taking a shit, that's okay right? Because it's your choice to eat there. Or as long as we're forcing drugs into other people's bodies without their explicit prior permission, you'd be okay with me dropping some LSD or cocaine into your food, right? After all, no one is forcing you to eat at my restaurant, so I should feel free to do whatever the hell I want when you enter the door, like urinate in your clam chowder. Because it's your choice to come to my restaurant.
First, aren't you even a little embarassed to pretend that the general editorial and commentary orientation on slashdot isn't demonstrably left-leaning on many subjects?
But of course this is the cornerstone of the "biased liberal media myth": if it's not super conservative, it must be liberal, which simply isn't the case. For one thing, there is a big ocean of center in the middle, and for another, this country has been steadily drifiting to the right for the last 50 years. Democrats today are more conservative than the GOP was thirty years ago. Hell, Nixon - who went to China and started the EPA - would be a flaming commie pinko in todays Republican Party. "Liberal" is not 30 yards to the left of what's "conservative" these days just because reactionaries have carried the "conservative" marker thirty yards to the right.
First, the editorial stances of almost every major newspaper, of ABC, NBC, CBS, NPR, CNN... all of those could scarecly be defined as conservative by any standard.
Of course it can be. Compare the press's obsession with Whitewater with Harken Energy, a should-have-been-scandal involving blatant insider trading by George W. Bush and given a whitewash investigation by an appointee of George H. W. Bush. Or the endless "fib factor" myths thrown at Gore during the 2000 race, while ignoring the fact that Bush took credit for legislation he vetoed as governor of Texas during one of the presidential debates. Or when absolutely no one in the press asked Bush if, as a former member of the Air Guard and posessing a former Secretary of Defense in Cheney and a two time SOD in Rummsfeild, if he might have gotten on the phone to NORAD or his SOD or his VP instead of reading "My Pet Goat" for twenty minutes when the nation was under attack.
Or when they ignored the Florida recounts that proved that Gore got more votes in that state and should won the electoral vote along with the popular vote. Or when no one in the press demanded the resignations of Rummsfield, Cheney, or even Bush himself when there turned out to be no WMD's in Iraq. Or how two peices of moderatly good news, the death of Zarqawi and no charges being brought against Rove, is trumpeted as a "surge of momentum" even as the death toll for American troops in Iraq tops 2,500. Or when the press goes Hardball on Democrats, like when Tim Russert went after Howard Dean for not knowing exactly how many troops were in military service, but go out of their way to avoid questioning Republican actions, like when Wolf Blizter started off an interview on Katrina by asking if the Clinton administration had defunded the levees. Or how GOP guests on programs consistently outnumber moderate guests, much less actually liberal ones. Or how any anger shown by Democrats is bad (see Kerry, Gore, or Dean again) but Republicans can be as angry as they want to be (Ann Coulter. Nuff said).
Speaking of Coulter, what are the chances of the mainstream media continually featuring a far left wing anarchist calling for the assisination of Republican politicians and blowing up the buildings of Fox News? Zero. Or how bout the recent tabloid style obession by the mainstream media with how much time the Clinton's spend together, and are already talking about how much impact Monica will have on a Hillary run, completely ignoring the affairs of two GOP frontrunners, Giuliani and McCain.
And so on and so on. The bias in the media for presenting conservative positions and persons is so obvious, and so blatant, that continued complaints of "liberal media bias" aren't even funny anymore.
Apple makes hardware that's pleasing to look at. Whether or not it performs better is beside the issue.
Hardly. People like Apple hardware because they usually do a good job making it. When they don't, people complain a lot more than they would about Dell, HP etc. See the Macbook heating issue, or the swelling batteries, or the glossy screens.
here are two things that are absolutely sacred right now on this site: Apple and Nintendo.
Did you miss the 500 stories and thousands of comments on how lame the name "Wii" was? No? How about any dicussion of the Macbook line, with dozens of people complaining about how hot they run. Or anytime Apple does something questionable or unpopular, and there's 20 group thinkers critisizing Slashdot for supposed group-think bias, saying "now if this were Microsoft, you'd all be up in arms."
Criticize either and you're automatically modded flamebait or troll. Compliment either and you're +5 Interesting and Insightful. And god forbid we talk about their rivals in a good way.
Sounds more like you miss the old days of Slashdot, where any crazed, Dvorak style crabassing would be an automatic +5 Insightful.
I am an asthmatic, but I support your right to smoke whatever you want on private property.
On your private property, sure, do whatever you want. And if I'm your guest, I can either deal with it or leave. Otherwise, if it's a restaurant, or a stadium...too damn bad. You want to talk about rights...why should anyone have the right to force drugs into your body without your explicit prior permission?
Hello? For there to be justice, Microsoft needs to be slapped. As other people have pointed out, giving away "millions" of dollars in software to schools that only sets them back the cost of the media. And for it to be a slap, it needs to be something that actually hurts a company with 50+ billion in cash - like the EU's threat to fine them $2.5 mil per day.
I was with you until this one. Free speech does NOT give you the unlimited right to any platform you want for your speech.
Yes it does, actually, when dealing with verbak abuse to a police officer. You are perfectly free to go up to a cop and tell him he's a cocksucking son of a bitch, and so long as you don't scream it in a public place (so he can arrest you on disorderly conduct), he can't do jack about it. The courts have basically ruled that it's part of the job and they have to suck it up and take it.
If a cop demands to be let in my house without a search warrant, should I let him? a) Yes
Well, Mr. Ankle Grabber, whatever works for you. Some of us know he can't do that w/o a warrant and will tell him to piss off.
This may surprise you but the original intent of providing internet access was not to pass around mp3's, pictures of yourself drunk, and porn (well, that last one is debatable).
And your attitude might be appropriate if those were the actions being taken by the university - banning copyright infringment and using the network for blatantly non-academic uses - but they aren't. A student athlete could be using Facebook purely for classes and still run afoul of Kent's draconian policy.
However, the way I see it is if a school is giving you tens of thousands of dollars for your education
Small potatos compared to the tens of millions student athletes bring to top universities like Kent in broadcasting fees, ticket sales and merchandising. Students whom, I might add, don't recieve a cut of the aforementioned fees, tickets and broadcasting, and are prohibited by the NCAA from holding jobs while playing for the school, so ask yourself again who's really getting the better end of the deal.
This would be a troll....how? When you discover the Gunpowder advance in Civilization 4, it gives you the Al Capone quote "You can get more with a gun and a smile than with just a smile", which the parent also quoted. So how is it trolling to ask him if he first heard it in the game?
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but Mac OS 9 had oodles of viruses than Mac OS X,
No, it didn't, but thank you for asking.
And why doesn't Apple go with Firewire 800?
Because it uses a different connector, and anyone who can afford the expensive devices that use it probably wont be running them on a stripped down machine.
$2.51 million per day is an operating expense, not a fine. Their revenue is $25 million per day.
But that's worldwide, no? Almost a billion a year is a good chunk of change for doing business in the EU.
If you miss the point of my post entirely, I don't think I can help you understand it.
Sorry, next time we'll try to read your mind more clearly when you make a one-sentance reply that doesn't make any sense.
Right now, they're suing bloggers
You forgot to mention what for. They're being sued because they are trying to get employees to break their NDA's and post the information online. They also have delusions of grandeur and think that because they 1) write something online and 2) somebody reads it, that they are suddenly now "journalists". And of course they don't want the responsibility that comes with journalism, just the rights and prestige. You also forgot to mention that Apple isn't sueing these asshats for money, but for the names of the employees who broke their NDA's.
refusing to release source for a project they've touted for years as their open source jewel in the crown
Nobody cares. Really. And Apple it's only the kernel on Intel that's closed, the rest of Darwin X86 is still there.
releasing hardware that, frankly, is no more innovative or interesting than any other PC manfuacturer's
Really? How many other OEM's are shipping all their new computers with a built in camera and a remote?
nd their software is over-proprietary as usual (Pilgrim mentions Mail.app's switch to a closed mailbox format
"As usual" how? And yes it is annoying that the Mail.app switch wasn't publicized by Apple, but there are other mail clients out there, and you could probably copy over an old version of Mail from a different system and use it just fine.
I'd had my fight with iTunes during the 4.x to 6.x debacle
Which was...? I've been using it all that time, and by making sure to stay away from "consolidate library" and doing my own file management of the songs, I haven't had any problems.
lol...careful. Saying *anything* negative about Apple on /. can be hazardous to your karma.
Hardly. Any reported hardware problem with Apple hardware makes it onto the Slashdot front page within a matter of days. People complain about the Macbooks overheating ALL THE TIME. Dell can have far worse problems with their hardware, but it takes a laptop battery exploding and starting on fire before it's news here. You will still get modded down if you troll, however, which makes me think what's really going on is you guys miss the days when any factually challenged, Dvorak type quip would get you an automatic +5 Informative. Case in point:
The other thing I don't get is how the rabid Apple fanbase on this site which ordinarily is extremely anti-DRM seems to not even notice that Apple is all about DRM, lock-in, and every other negative thing you can think of that comes with it.
No, they aren't. The only place you'll find DRM is on the iTMS store, which nobody forces you to use. There is no product activation, and not even a serial number unless you are buying OS X Server.
And yet, every day millions of computer users wonder "why can't I copy this song i bought?".
Not with the iTMS they don't, so how does that fit into a comparison between Ubuntu and Apple?
Wrong.
No, he's not. For songs sold online, the RIAA takes the artist's paltry royalty fee and further reduces it by deducting the same distribution costs they do for physical media. This is obviously a crock as the physical costs for online distrubion are going to be almost nothing per song.
It drives me up a wall how this company always gets a free pass on this and other sites.
Um, they don't. How many stories have we seen on the overheating issue with the Macbooks? How about the easily scratched Nano screens or the the swelling laptop batteries? It takes a Dell battery exploding and starting on fire before they get mentioned, but any issues with Apple hardware and it's on the front page of Slashdot the next day.
That, and the fact that women are less likely to get a ticket for the exact same offense as a man.
I'm talking about the eye humping that occurs, manifesting itself into biased moderation for Apple and Nintendo.
And I'm saying that, like other alledged forms of bias, your Apple and Nintendo bias simply doesn't exist. Go find me one actual +5 Apple fanboy post and I'll show you five that are complaining about Apple's products, Apple's policies, or calling Jobs a supreme asshole. Methinks you are nostalgic for the days when any Dvorak style crazed ranting about how "belegaurd Apple is going to die" would get an automatic +5 Informative, so now any resonable post looks like "bias" to you.
As for Nintendo, the buzz surrounding them comes from the high price of the PS3, the motion sensing controller, the high price of the 360, the high price of the PS3, the expected low pricing of the Wii and it's games, the high price of the PS3, the huge catalog of old Nintendo games that will be rereleased for the Wii, and lastly, the high price of the PS3.
If the Wii and the PS3 were being released at $350 and $400 respectivley, people would be wowing over Sony's console and would still be bitching about Nintendo going from a great name like the Revolution to the retarded Wii.
What the other finds "right" another man can experience this as "wrong". Clinton involved adultery and lying; which is in the christian way "wrong" because you cannot sleep with someone else when married.
Right, which is why the right wing went after the following Republican politicians for having affairs just as hard as they went after Clinton: Gengrich, Guiliani, McCain, and of course Henry Hyde, the man in charge of the drive to impeach Clinton in the House of Representatives.
Except they didn't, which just further exposes them to be a bunch of hypocrites engaging in blatant double standards.
I seem to recall the declaration of war having been brought forward in Congress. CNN.com - Senate approves Iraq war resolution - Oct. 11, 2002
You recall wrong. Congress authorized the use of force, which is a different kettle of fish from a declaration of war, which is what the president has to have to go around suspending parts of the Constitution.
Wow. Hope she sued the bastards, but I'm sure our rubber stamping courts would think their tactic was just fine.
They can go somewhere else. No one forces you to eat at any particular restraunt, and you have no right to tell an owner he can't allow smoking there.
Okay. So if I start a restuarant and none of my workers wash their hands after taking a shit, that's okay right? Because it's your choice to eat there. Or as long as we're forcing drugs into other people's bodies without their explicit prior permission, you'd be okay with me dropping some LSD or cocaine into your food, right? After all, no one is forcing you to eat at my restaurant, so I should feel free to do whatever the hell I want when you enter the door, like urinate in your clam chowder. Because it's your choice to come to my restaurant.
First, aren't you even a little embarassed to pretend that the general editorial and commentary orientation on slashdot isn't demonstrably left-leaning on many subjects?
But of course this is the cornerstone of the "biased liberal media myth": if it's not super conservative, it must be liberal, which simply isn't the case. For one thing, there is a big ocean of center in the middle, and for another, this country has been steadily drifiting to the right for the last 50 years. Democrats today are more conservative than the GOP was thirty years ago. Hell, Nixon - who went to China and started the EPA - would be a flaming commie pinko in todays Republican Party. "Liberal" is not 30 yards to the left of what's "conservative" these days just because reactionaries have carried the "conservative" marker thirty yards to the right.
First, the editorial stances of almost every major newspaper, of ABC, NBC, CBS, NPR, CNN... all of those could scarecly be defined as conservative by any standard.
Of course it can be. Compare the press's obsession with Whitewater with Harken Energy, a should-have-been-scandal involving blatant insider trading by George W. Bush and given a whitewash investigation by an appointee of George H. W. Bush. Or the endless "fib factor" myths thrown at Gore during the 2000 race, while ignoring the fact that Bush took credit for legislation he vetoed as governor of Texas during one of the presidential debates. Or when absolutely no one in the press asked Bush if, as a former member of the Air Guard and posessing a former Secretary of Defense in Cheney and a two time SOD in Rummsfeild, if he might have gotten on the phone to NORAD or his SOD or his VP instead of reading "My Pet Goat" for twenty minutes when the nation was under attack.
Or when they ignored the Florida recounts that proved that Gore got more votes in that state and should won the electoral vote along with the popular vote. Or when no one in the press demanded the resignations of Rummsfield, Cheney, or even Bush himself when there turned out to be no WMD's in Iraq. Or how two peices of moderatly good news, the death of Zarqawi and no charges being brought against Rove, is trumpeted as a "surge of momentum" even as the death toll for American troops in Iraq tops 2,500. Or when the press goes Hardball on Democrats, like when Tim Russert went after Howard Dean for not knowing exactly how many troops were in military service, but go out of their way to avoid questioning Republican actions, like when Wolf Blizter started off an interview on Katrina by asking if the Clinton administration had defunded the levees. Or how GOP guests on programs consistently outnumber moderate guests, much less actually liberal ones. Or how any anger shown by Democrats is bad (see Kerry, Gore, or Dean again) but Republicans can be as angry as they want to be (Ann Coulter. Nuff said).
Speaking of Coulter, what are the chances of the mainstream media continually featuring a far left wing anarchist calling for the assisination of Republican politicians and blowing up the buildings of Fox News? Zero. Or how bout the recent tabloid style obession by the mainstream media with how much time the Clinton's spend together, and are already talking about how much impact Monica will have on a Hillary run, completely ignoring the affairs of two GOP frontrunners, Giuliani and McCain.
And so on and so on. The bias in the media for presenting conservative positions and persons is so obvious, and so blatant, that continued complaints of "liberal media bias" aren't even funny anymore.
Apple makes hardware that's pleasing to look at. Whether or not it performs better is beside the issue.
Hardly. People like Apple hardware because they usually do a good job making it. When they don't, people complain a lot more than they would about Dell, HP etc. See the Macbook heating issue, or the swelling batteries, or the glossy screens.
here are two things that are absolutely sacred right now on this site: Apple and Nintendo.
Did you miss the 500 stories and thousands of comments on how lame the name "Wii" was? No? How about any dicussion of the Macbook line, with dozens of people complaining about how hot they run. Or anytime Apple does something questionable or unpopular, and there's 20 group thinkers critisizing Slashdot for supposed group-think bias, saying "now if this were Microsoft, you'd all be up in arms."
Criticize either and you're automatically modded flamebait or troll. Compliment either and you're +5 Interesting and Insightful. And god forbid we talk about their rivals in a good way.
Sounds more like you miss the old days of Slashdot, where any crazed, Dvorak style crabassing would be an automatic +5 Insightful.
I really don't think that with the price of gas, housing and energy being what it is now there is much of disposable income left in people's hands.
Don't forget higher education and health care.
I am an asthmatic, but I support your right to smoke whatever you want on private property.
On your private property, sure, do whatever you want. And if I'm your guest, I can either deal with it or leave. Otherwise, if it's a restaurant, or a stadium...too damn bad. You want to talk about rights...why should anyone have the right to force drugs into your body without your explicit prior permission?
Hello? For there to be justice, Microsoft needs to be slapped. As other people have pointed out, giving away "millions" of dollars in software to schools that only sets them back the cost of the media. And for it to be a slap, it needs to be something that actually hurts a company with 50+ billion in cash - like the EU's threat to fine them $2.5 mil per day.
verbak
verbal. I can spell, really.
I was with you until this one. Free speech does NOT give you the unlimited right to any platform you want for your speech.
Yes it does, actually, when dealing with verbak abuse to a police officer. You are perfectly free to go up to a cop and tell him he's a cocksucking son of a bitch, and so long as you don't scream it in a public place (so he can arrest you on disorderly conduct), he can't do jack about it. The courts have basically ruled that it's part of the job and they have to suck it up and take it.
If a cop demands to be let in my house without a search warrant, should I let him? a) Yes
Well, Mr. Ankle Grabber, whatever works for you. Some of us know he can't do that w/o a warrant and will tell him to piss off.
This may surprise you but the original intent of providing internet access was not to pass around mp3's, pictures of yourself drunk, and porn (well, that last one is debatable).
And your attitude might be appropriate if those were the actions being taken by the university - banning copyright infringment and using the network for blatantly non-academic uses - but they aren't. A student athlete could be using Facebook purely for classes and still run afoul of Kent's draconian policy.
However, the way I see it is if a school is giving you tens of thousands of dollars for your education
Small potatos compared to the tens of millions student athletes bring to top universities like Kent in broadcasting fees, ticket sales and merchandising. Students whom, I might add, don't recieve a cut of the aforementioned fees, tickets and broadcasting, and are prohibited by the NCAA from holding jobs while playing for the school, so ask yourself again who's really getting the better end of the deal.
This would be a troll....how? When you discover the Gunpowder advance in Civilization 4, it gives you the Al Capone quote "You can get more with a gun and a smile than with just a smile", which the parent also quoted. So how is it trolling to ask him if he first heard it in the game?