I've got it running on my iBook, and I think it's pretty slick.
I had it running on the Mac mini which I'm using for a home theater media console, but my Sonica USB soundcard from M-Audio doesn't work with Tiger at all yet, so I had to downgrade back to 10.3.9.
(Apparantly M-Audio decided the perfect time to roll up their sleeves and start making 10.4 drivers for their Mac hardware was a week after the retail release.)
From what I've seen so far, Tiger's a pretty sweet OS, and as soon as M-Audio gets their shit together, I'll be running it in the living room.
Anyways.. actually it was something like "The Power of Unix with the ease of a Mac" or something **I think**.
I could claim that my car has "the power of 200 horses", but it doesn't mean that my car is pulled by horses.
"The Power of Unix" is a good way of describing what you can accomplish with OS X, but that's a whole different kettle of fish from calling OS X "UNIX (TM)"
To call your OS a "UNIX", you must submit it to be verified for compliance and request permission to call it UNIX. Apple has never done that with OS X.
Clue #1: Macs have the root user disabled by default. Most users who know enough about UNIX to need to enable the root user are probably wise enough to secure their networks.
Clue #2: If marketshare was the only factor, there would be far more exploits and virii floating around for Apache than for IIS. Security design matters more than market share, and Macs are vastly more secure than Windows boxen.
Why would you assume that security holes recently found and patched in 10.3.9 would automatically be known about (if present) and fixed in 10.4.0 a week before this patch?
Odds are, if these are bugs which also apply to Tiger (which we don't know), a security patch will come out for it fairly soon as well.
(and how the distinctive lightsaber sound was actually a happy accident)
Many of us have come around to viewing the entire films of "Star Wars" and "The Empire Strikes Back" as happy accidents.... and "Return of the Jedi" a sort of slightly-cheerful-yet-melancholy accident.
If the SE changes and subsequent prequels are anything to go by, George Lucas clearly never actually understood what made us like his movies in the first place, but rather he merely stumbled into making a couple great moments in film history.
Is there even such a thing as "counterfeit" Windows?
All I've ever seen is illegal copies of the real Windows OS.
Does Microsoft really expect us to believe that there are people out there who have written another OS which behaves enough like Windows that it will fool people into thinking they bought a Microsoft operating system???
Okay, sure there's Linspire (or whatever it's called this week) and KDE, but those are Linux-based environments and therefore far too stable to fool anybody.
Who's writing this counterfeit Windows program out there, and how did they manage to get it to work properly with all the malware floating around the net?
This coming from someone who never was much into MMORPGs, what sets Everquest apart and makes it so crack-like?
The same thing which psychologists have found makes just about any activity addictive/compulsive: a random distribution of positive reinforcement.
Whether you are training an animal to do tricks, or conditioning a person to waste their life, the most reliable way to do it is to reward the behavior some of the time. Give the rat a food pellet one time out of every three times he hits a lever (on average, but without a predictible pattern), and it will spend it's little life hitting that lever long after you stop giving the food away.
This is also why so many people sit in dreary casino's, playing those mind-nummingly dull video slot machines while telling themselves they are having fun. Every once in a while, light light up, bells ring, and you get some of your money back. Plus, every time you loose, the machine shows a cartoon of wheels spinning in such a way to imply that you "almost" won!
I agree with you that FPS sucks on the X-Box. HALO is a cool game, but I could not get used to aiming with a console controller. (Also, driving the wart-hog on a big screen made me a little motion-sick.)
But I kind of burned out on FPS several years ago. (I comfortably say without false modesty that I was a freakish "Quake god" once upon a time.) The FPS games of the last five years or so have done little to rekindle my interest. I'd much rather play GTA III on my X-Box (or GTA-SA when it finally gets ported... damn you lucky PS2 owners!) than play Yet Another Half-Life Mod.
The first post you linked, he said launchd was part of Darwin 8. It was, wasn't it?
The second is a thread of you ranting about how he's not an actual Apple employee, which (as I just said) is irrelevant.
So again, I ask: Given that I don't give a flying fuck whether he is who he says he is or not, is there anything about his statements fact on the subject at hand that could be called "misinformation", or are you just a bitter troll yourself.
Instead of a boring as shit geometry class that they'll never use (I've use trig twice in my adult life...
An understanding of trig is essential to understanding calc, which every engineer and every accountant needs to know. If you're not going to teach trig in HS, you might as well shut the math department down.
It *is* real, especially in rural areas. Without government subsidy or initiative, there is an excellent chance that many communities in our state (NE) will never see an improvement in offered digital services. There simply isn't enough population density for any company to deliver in a cost effective way.
You know what? You can't get really good live opera or chinese food out in most rural communities either.
Part of moving out into the sticks is making the choice of giving up certain big-city advantages to live out among the cows and trees.
That's not the "digital divide", that's just the difference between civilization and wilderness.
Continuing (or restarting) education is a real priority to help people that have lost access to 'blue collar' jobs, and that would otherwise be suckling from the taxpayer's teat. High speed internet access is key to cost effectively providing retraining.
Are you saying that people in rural communities have no access to job training, and never will unless we give them broadband? Are you completely ignorant of how much the government is already spending on job retraining for displaced blue-collar workers? These people don't need broadband, they need the "Ask Lesko" book.
A municipality that has free WiFi or municipal FTTH for $15/month will attract young professionals
I'm a young(ish) professional, and I would steer clear of a city which has locked down broadband choices by providing a $15/month service which drove all the small ISP's out of town.
Why does a couple with no children, who have never had children, and never intend on having children pay local taxes which, to a large extent, go directly to the public schools?
For the privilege of living in a society in which the general population is well-educated.
Plus, it has the added benifit of keeping the little hellions off the street and mostly out of trouble for nine months out of the year.
I have no kids, but I don't begrudge the city a single dime of what they spend on education.
On the Apple side, you have a good, what, 5 games?
I couldn't tell you. There's only one game on the Mac I like, and that's WoW.
For all other gaming, I fire up the X-Box.
Nothing on the Windows side really piques my interest, but when the GTA MMORPG comes out in 2007 or so (assuming it's not vapor), I may end up shopping for an AMD or Intel box if it's Windows-only.
His comments don't really display much in the way of "insider" knowledge, but they are usually factual, so he gets modded up as "Informative" a lot, which is the way moderation is supposed to work.
I don't think he's an Apple guy of much significance. For all we know he works the "genius bar" at a really, really slow Apple Store somewhere, and surfs slashdot to kill time... if he works for Apple at all.
Whatever the case is, he can claim to be whoever he likes. It doesn't matter. What matters is that his comments tend to contribute to the discussion, while your comment is just whining flame-baiting.
"I can play games, render an animation, listen to mp3 and encode some video, all with very little slowdown to each other! Thank you AlienWare!"
Wow. Unless they think that you will be playing Solitaire, I really doubt that that statement could be true. And as such, they are doing false advertisement
That's not false advertizing. You really can do it with their products.
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I've got it running on my iBook, and I think it's pretty slick.
I had it running on the Mac mini which I'm using for a home theater media console, but my Sonica USB soundcard from M-Audio doesn't work with Tiger at all yet, so I had to downgrade back to 10.3.9.
(Apparantly M-Audio decided the perfect time to roll up their sleeves and start making 10.4 drivers for their Mac hardware was a week after the retail release.)
From what I've seen so far, Tiger's a pretty sweet OS, and as soon as M-Audio gets their shit together, I'll be running it in the living room.
Why do you think we call our implementation of Unix "Darwin?"
Because you're under the mistaken impression that OS X is also the largest city in the Northern Territory, Australia?
Or the small town in Minnesota where you can find the world's largest hand-wound ball of twine?
Anyways.. actually it was something like "The Power of Unix with the ease of a Mac" or something **I think**.
I could claim that my car has "the power of 200 horses", but it doesn't mean that my car is pulled by horses.
"The Power of Unix" is a good way of describing what you can accomplish with OS X, but that's a whole different kettle of fish from calling OS X "UNIX (TM)"
To call your OS a "UNIX", you must submit it to be verified for compliance and request permission to call it UNIX. Apple has never done that with OS X.
Clue #1: Macs have the root user disabled by default. Most users who know enough about UNIX to need to enable the root user are probably wise enough to secure their networks.
Clue #2: If marketshare was the only factor, there would be far more exploits and virii floating around for Apache than for IIS. Security design matters more than market share, and Macs are vastly more secure than Windows boxen.
Clue #3: There's not clue 3.
Clue #4: Incorrect plurala can be fun.
Why would you assume that security holes recently found and patched in 10.3.9 would automatically be known about (if present) and fixed in 10.4.0 a week before this patch?
Odds are, if these are bugs which also apply to Tiger (which we don't know), a security patch will come out for it fairly soon as well.
Better yet: Speed holes!
(Is there any thread that can't be brought around to a "Simpsons" reference at this point?)
(and how the distinctive lightsaber sound was actually a happy accident)
... and "Return of the Jedi" a sort of slightly-cheerful-yet-melancholy accident.
Many of us have come around to viewing the entire films of "Star Wars" and "The Empire Strikes Back" as happy accidents.
If the SE changes and subsequent prequels are anything to go by, George Lucas clearly never actually understood what made us like his movies in the first place, but rather he merely stumbled into making a couple great moments in film history.
Mea culpa.
;)
Thanks for reminding me where I need to go to pick mine up when my achievements are someday properly recognized.
Is there even such a thing as "counterfeit" Windows?
All I've ever seen is illegal copies of the real Windows OS.
Does Microsoft really expect us to believe that there are people out there who have written another OS which behaves enough like Windows that it will fool people into thinking they bought a Microsoft operating system???
Okay, sure there's Linspire (or whatever it's called this week) and KDE, but those are Linux-based environments and therefore far too stable to fool anybody.
Who's writing this counterfeit Windows program out there, and how did they manage to get it to work properly with all the malware floating around the net?
This coming from someone who never was much into MMORPGs, what sets Everquest apart and makes it so crack-like?
The same thing which psychologists have found makes just about any activity addictive/compulsive: a random distribution of positive reinforcement.
Whether you are training an animal to do tricks, or conditioning a person to waste their life, the most reliable way to do it is to reward the behavior some of the time. Give the rat a food pellet one time out of every three times he hits a lever (on average, but without a predictible pattern), and it will spend it's little life hitting that lever long after you stop giving the food away.
This is also why so many people sit in dreary casino's, playing those mind-nummingly dull video slot machines while telling themselves they are having fun. Every once in a while, light light up, bells ring, and you get some of your money back. Plus, every time you loose, the machine shows a cartoon of wheels spinning in such a way to imply that you "almost" won!
Except that it is to be confused, that's why they chose that name. It's supposed to be funny.
It's not, but it's supposed to be.
No, the Nobel prizes are the ones which have one for Peace.
This is the Noble Piece Prize, which has zero to do with the Nobel foundation in Zurich, and therefore not actually a big deal.
I agree with you that FPS sucks on the X-Box. HALO is a cool game, but I could not get used to aiming with a console controller. (Also, driving the wart-hog on a big screen made me a little motion-sick.)
But I kind of burned out on FPS several years ago. (I comfortably say without false modesty that I was a freakish "Quake god" once upon a time.) The FPS games of the last five years or so have done little to rekindle my interest. I'd much rather play GTA III on my X-Box (or GTA-SA when it finally gets ported... damn you lucky PS2 owners!) than play Yet Another Half-Life Mod.
The first post you linked, he said launchd was part of Darwin 8. It was, wasn't it?
The second is a thread of you ranting about how he's not an actual Apple employee, which (as I just said) is irrelevant.
So again, I ask: Given that I don't give a flying fuck whether he is who he says he is or not, is there anything about his statements fact on the subject at hand that could be called "misinformation", or are you just a bitter troll yourself.
What if you live in Bumf*ck Iowa...
Where's your opportunity to get online now?
Des Moines.
If you want the ammenities of a city, move to one.
Instead of a boring as shit geometry class that they'll never use (I've use trig twice in my adult life...
An understanding of trig is essential to understanding calc, which every engineer and every accountant needs to know. If you're not going to teach trig in HS, you might as well shut the math department down.
It *is* real, especially in rural areas. Without government subsidy or initiative, there is an excellent chance that many communities in our state (NE) will never see an improvement in offered digital services. There simply isn't enough population density for any company to deliver in a cost effective way.
You know what? You can't get really good live opera or chinese food out in most rural communities either.
Part of moving out into the sticks is making the choice of giving up certain big-city advantages to live out among the cows and trees.
That's not the "digital divide", that's just the difference between civilization and wilderness.
Continuing (or restarting) education is a real priority to help people that have lost access to 'blue collar' jobs, and that would otherwise be suckling from the taxpayer's teat. High speed internet access is key to cost effectively providing retraining.
Are you saying that people in rural communities have no access to job training, and never will unless we give them broadband? Are you completely ignorant of how much the government is already spending on job retraining for displaced blue-collar workers? These people don't need broadband, they need the "Ask Lesko" book.
Yes, ASOTV has spread (and continues to spread) misinformation here, and you idiots eat it all up.
Misinformation such as what, exactly?
The only statement of fact he's made in this thread so far is "You don't need an X800 to run Photoshop and InDesign" which is true.
A municipality that has free WiFi or municipal FTTH for $15/month will attract young professionals
I'm a young(ish) professional, and I would steer clear of a city which has locked down broadband choices by providing a $15/month service which drove all the small ISP's out of town.
Why does a couple with no children, who have never had children, and never intend on having children pay local taxes which, to a large extent, go directly to the public schools?
For the privilege of living in a society in which the general population is well-educated.
Plus, it has the added benifit of keeping the little hellions off the street and mostly out of trouble for nine months out of the year.
I have no kids, but I don't begrudge the city a single dime of what they spend on education.
On the Apple side, you have a good, what, 5 games?
I couldn't tell you. There's only one game on the Mac I like, and that's WoW.
For all other gaming, I fire up the X-Box.
Nothing on the Windows side really piques my interest, but when the GTA MMORPG comes out in 2007 or so (assuming it's not vapor), I may end up shopping for an AMD or Intel box if it's Windows-only.
His comments don't really display much in the way of "insider" knowledge, but they are usually factual, so he gets modded up as "Informative" a lot, which is the way moderation is supposed to work.
I don't think he's an Apple guy of much significance. For all we know he works the "genius bar" at a really, really slow Apple Store somewhere, and surfs slashdot to kill time... if he works for Apple at all.
Whatever the case is, he can claim to be whoever he likes. It doesn't matter. What matters is that his comments tend to contribute to the discussion, while your comment is just whining flame-baiting.
Another World of Warcraft hater, huh?
Personally, I think it's kind of fun. I was just logged into WoW last night on my 119" projection system via the Mac mini.
Even with Toast encoding a DVD of one of my HDTV archives in the background, it ran really smoothly.
Sorry, no DVI. Mini-VGA is the only video-out option on these things.
"I can play games, render an animation, listen to mp3 and encode some video, all with very little slowdown to each other! Thank you AlienWare!"
Wow. Unless they think that you will be playing Solitaire, I really doubt that that statement could be true. And as such, they are doing false advertisement
That's not false advertizing. You really can do it with their products.
All you gotta do is buy four AlienWare computers.