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Apple to Release first Tiger Update
Ninj4Bytes writes "AppleInsider is reporting on the first update to Mac OS X Tiger. The update is reported to address 'over three dozen componets, with an emphasis on improving general stability and reliability'. The patch is listed for a mid to late May release."
What, they've already released Tiger? I didn't even notice and there's even a patch!
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Tiger overall is a great upgrade from Panther. It's got some really neat new features and there's bound to be several of them that anyone will use. That being said, important new core features like Spotlight are not working as advertised for many users. Other things, like Quartz 2D Extreme which is desigend to offload almost all the UI work to the GPU, was buggy enough to be disabled in the Tiger release. There's a lot of work there that's relatively unfinished, and I think it's great that Apple's making motions to get things in order mere weeks after its release.
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-Hoban Washburn
I'd be happy if they re-enabled my Motorola v60's iSyncing. It worked fine in Panther, now it's broken.
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I didn't want to be one of those people who held cautiously held off while those around me were having all the fun; I wanted to get on board with 10.4.0. However, since Amazon is shipping my copy of Tiger from Pennsylvania (to Portland, OR) by a combination of mule train and canal barge, I might not get it until 10.4.3 comes out! I couldn't afford the $500 to get on the Apple Developers program and play with the betas, but I might have considered the extra $4 for overnight shipping.
They did this with Puma and Jaguar. It was 1-2 weeks before they had 10.1.1 and 10.2.1. They just didn't last time...
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This is what Help said: "You cannot remove widgets from the Widget Bar or change their order"
And that's just plain stupid. I hope they fix that soon.
Other things, like Quartz 2D Extreme which is desigend to offload almost all the UI work to the GPU, was buggy enough to be disabled in the Tiger release.
According to Apple Tiger's Quartz Extreme page, this is not the case. Perhaps you need to take a look at the Quartz Extreme Requirements.
For a balanced evaluation of Quartz 2D Extreme, check out this April 28th review by Ars Technica.
I only came here to do two things; kick some ass, and drink some beer...looks like we're almost out of beer.
I submitted this bug report to Apple the day after Tiger came out. (Bug ID 4104116)
And once again, as with my iTunes + null separator character bug, it was quickly marked "No Workaround" and I lost privileges to view it. I cannot fathom why they don't want me to see the report again.
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I was at the Apple Store yesterday talking with several employees (wearing very cool spotlight T-shirts) about the lack of AntiVirus for Tiger. They were quite sheepish about the subject and mentioned the training they'd received about how to broach the subject when customers ask about it. The bottom line was that there is no AntiVirus software compatible with Tiger at the moment and that they were to upsell .mac where Apple's servers run AntiVirus on .mac emails.
Is this a non-issue? Is it odd that you don't hear much about this?
I've read a lot about Tiger over the last six months and that is the first I had heard of this issue.
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You should check your facts before you accuse other people of spreading FUD. If you read the very article you link (at ArsTechnica), you will see confirmation that Quartz 2D Extreme is disabled in Tiger.
From the second to last pair of paragraphs in your link...
"There's one final barrier to hardware-accelerated bliss. Quartz 2D Extreme is disabled by default in Mac OS X 10.4.0. That's right, the whiz-bang new technology you just read all about is not actually used in Tiger unless it's explicitly enabled using the Quartz Debug application. Even then, it only applies to applications that are launched after it was turned on. It also appears that Q2DE is re-disabled when you quit the Quartz Debug application.
Why develop something as impressive as Quartz 2D Extreme and then leave it turned off by default? My inquiries to Apple have gone unanswered, so I can only speculate about the reasoning behind this decision. My best guess is that all of the bugs could not be excised from Q2DE in time for Tiger's launch date, and that it will be enabled by default in a subsequent update--perhaps as early as version 10.4.1."
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100% of the stories posted on Slashdot don't belong on Slashdot, depending on your perspective. For instance, I don't give a flying fuck about most of the *nix stories posted here, so I:
a) don't read them
b) sure as hell don't post in them about how they don't belong on Slashdot
Now I do this because even though from my perspective I come here for other types of geek news and errata, other people do come here for those types of information. In case you didn't realize, there's a handy feature found in your user profile on Slashdot that allows you to remove items from being shown on your homepage (example: Apple-related news). Give it a try.
"I'm a leaf on the wind. Watch how I soar."
-Hoban Washburn
I can't decide if I like Tiger or not. having splashed out for a family pack, for my iMac G5 (1GB RAM), my Al PowerBook G4 (512MB RAM), my parents Al PowerBook 17" (256MB RAM) and mother-in-law's mini (512MB RAM) I can't say that I've seen anything about it that I would recommend. If anything it feels slower than panther. Spotlight is useful and I played with it for a bit, but its way too slow to be as world changing as we had been promised. I was really looking forward to Automator, but the few times I though it would be useful it wasn't (although I haven't given up yet). Dashboard widgets are an interesting addition, but at a substantial memory cost - I don't feel it on the G5, but the G4s I've got access to you seem to have a choice - Dashboard or Fast User switching... fast user switching is more useful to me.
My hope is that these new technologies expected Quartz 2D Extereme to be turned on and that once its stable, I'll get the "it just feels snappier" experience that we mac users have come to expect from an upgrade. At the moment this feels more like Win2k to XP.
To keep this pro apple, its not all bad. There are two technologies that I wouldn't give back: Safari RSS and QuickTime 7, both of which feel positively super charged. But I wouldn't describe them as "worth the ticket price alone", especially as you can now get QT7 for panther.
This update can't come soon enough. Lets hope it unlocks the true tiger within!
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Just go to ~(username)->Library->Widgets and drag them out.
. . . and shoot them. It's the only way to make sure they don't come back.
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This is obviously a bug that needs to be fixed, as I've heard other people reporting it, but it's definitely does work for many. Spotlight searches comments on my iPhoto pictures just fine, and is actually probably my favorite thing to do with Spotlight. Typing a friends name or the name of a place and having pictures of them come up is really nice.
I know about customizing Slashdot sections, but I do actually care about Apple news. My point was that this isn't news at all, it is a rumor, and an inconsequential one at that. The slashdot editors should serve as a little bit of a filter, otherwise Apple slashdot will just turn into a dumb RSS feed of Mac Rumors.
100% is realistic, there isn't a story on Slashdot that EVERYBODY wants to read.
The point is that this site will always be one where news is interspersed with rumors, opinions, etc. That is what Slashdot is. This particular posting isn't inconsequential if you're someone like myself who has had issues with the latest OS (not showstopper ones mind you, but issues nonetheless).
"I'm a leaf on the wind. Watch how I soar."
-Hoban Washburn
and if anyone didnt notice, about the time tiger was released, Adium 0.8 was released, and what an upgrade it is. however, its crashed on me a few times and is laden with bugs. hopefully 0.8.1 will be released alongside Mac OS X 10.4.1. but i haven't noticed any problems with tiger, except one with dashboard. any dashboard widget which has a tooltip-like text that pops up when you hover over part of it will display that tooltip text when that mouse is on that part of the screen when dashboard isn't shown. for example, my TV channel widget pops up "NBC" when i hover over the NBC channel, but when dashboard isnt shown, when i move over where it would be on dashboard, i see the tooltip thing. anyone else having this problem? its quite annoying. luckily, none of the apple standard widgets AFAICT have tooltip windows, just custom ones.
You should check your facts before you accuse other people of spreading FUD. If you read the very article you link (at ArsTechnica), you will see confirmation that Quartz 2D Extreme is disabled in Tiger.
I was totally wrong. My appologies to Winterblink. Clearly staed on parargaph 43 of the 46 paragraph, 1 table, and 3 figure Ars coverage of Quartz Extreme in Tiger, it does state that the only way to use Q2DE (if you have the proper graphics card) is to use it in debug mode.
I am totally perplexed by this and wonder why, when Jobs demoed Q2DE in action during a dashboard demo where Q3DE "splashed" the widgets on the desktop, Apple made the decision to disable the technology.
I am further confused by the system requirements. Apple states that Core Image requires a "ATI Mobility Radeon 9700, Radeon 9600 XT, 9800 XT, or X800 XT." But the only system I see Apple shipping with an ATI Radeon 9600 XT is a BTO option for the single proc 1.8 PowerMac. The Dual 2.0 and 2.3 PowerMacs and the iMac G5 come with the ATI Radeon 9600, not the XT.
What the heck is going on in California?
I only came here to do two things; kick some ass, and drink some beer...looks like we're almost out of beer.
When will they fix compatibility with a lot of business apps, like Cisco's VPN client, VirtualPC routing/DHCP handling, etc.?
bad troll! bad!
lets see, a story about a FREE update which fixes bugs that effect users and the performace of thier computers they spend good money on is a advertisement for apple and not news?
yeah, an adverstisment. Im sure apple us thrilled we are discussing their fucks ups and free patches and not something that people actuialy will pay for.
so apple isn't working on a 10.4.1 release and the software is finished?! hoo-ray!! Thanks for the story. lets post it on Slash...err nevermind
exactly. i find it funny how all these people come out of wood work on apple stories or even slight rumoring and proclaim to be standing up for the virtue of slashdot, like slashdot is some virgin that must remain pure until she is ready to get nasty on her wedding day.
what they really are saying is they know slashdot, and we must all know it the way they do. kinda fascist if you ask me.
...violate my privacy? Does it do something illegal? Does they do something that other 'information' companies don't?
Doesn't it make you feel good to know that our freedoms are protected by politicans, lawyers and journalists.
I hope we're not seeing a new philosophy here: ship an incomplete product to meet a marketing deadline with major features buggy and incomplete, then patch the problems later. There are no serious bugs that I have found yet in all of four days of playing with Tiger intermittently, but I can already tell that Apple basically rushed out an incomplete product here. Risky.
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This has been Apple's pattern ever since 10.0 - I think it's partly because their beta program is so closely controlled. Despite all the testing they do, it's still a tiny fraction of the number of users who install it in the first few days after release.
The other thing is that once Apple freezes a release as "GM", then you've got a gap of around a month before the public release. So in the meantime, they've got a head start on fixing issues, plus the ones that come up in the first week or two of public release. That makes for a first bugfix release within a month of launch (which has always been Apple's pattern in the X world), followed by further point releases every couple of months afterwards until the next major rev.
And that's in addition to the (now) monthly security updates and any other updates to components that come along.
I've got a whole fleet of Macs (iMac G5, PowerBook 667, PowerBook 15" 1.5 and mini at the office, iMac G3 and a pair of iMac G4s at home), and the way I handle a major update is to try it on one system at launch, because some of my customers will jump immediately. In this case, I threw it on my newer PowerBook G4 (I put my copy of Server on the mini). After the 10.4.1 update, I'll probably start deploying it on a couple of the other Macs, but keep 10.3 around for a while so I can support my 10.3 customers.
A handful of my customers still use 10.2, but it's not enough to bother keeping a 10.2 system around.
The disadvantage of Apple's approach is that the new release usually has a lot more little minor bugs and compatibility issues than a new Windows rev, because the new MacOS version is in the hands of relatively few people for a shorter development cycle. On the other hand, the fixes are rapid, and within a couple of months all the straggling 3rd party developers have usually caught up. Apple releases entire new versions of the OS in the time it takes Microsoft to release a service pack.
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You're married and living at home with your parents and in-laws?
I know that must be true or otherwise you'd be violating the family pack license.
This is good news, Apple is certainly on the right track by quickly updating any bugs and security holes that have been reported by users. I am VERY pleased with Tiger and cannot wait for the update, because every update of 10.3 improved my Mac's performance - I'm pretty sure 10.4.1 will too.
Dude, about four minutes after I read your post, I noticed Adium 0.81 is available. :D
See the new 4. Consent to Use of Data clause here. While the link is to a sample license, clause 4 is the same as the license included with the Tiger media.
It would seem that Apple can now collect data on 3rd party Applications and Peripherals you install. And then can share it with unnamed subsidiaries. And just what is "related information" to say Quicken for Mac? For the sake of argument assume Apple is benign and is just going to collect what it needs to implement the Software Updates, and never stores the data or uses it for any other purpose. Why not word the license like that?
Are there any lawyers out there using Macs? How does this impact you client confidentiality? Or doctors, could this cause a HIPPA violation?
Software Updates don't need this liberal a Consent. Remote support might, but it should have it's own per incident consent form, and not be applied to all users.
Come on Apple, you're not supposed to be like this.
pro-Apple: This is great! Apple's getting their bug fixes out to their customers within only a few weeks after release! Let's see M$ try and release a service pack that fast, ha-ha!
anti-Apple: This is ridiculous! If Apple can release a major set of bug fixes this soon after releasing the OS, why didn't they just put off the release date a few weeks so they could sell it with the fixed bugs?
Tiger is a really good upgrade *cough* a tad rough *cough*
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Apple to Release first Tiger Update
Oh good! I was worried it would be released by Microsoft.
SP2 had no glaring deficiencies. MS doesn't come close to this kind of sloppiness.
.0 OS X release to a Windows Service Pack?
WTF kind of comparison is that? You're comparing a
Plain old XP *did* have some glaring deficiencies, just like 10.4.0 does. Otherwise you wouldn't be running it with not one but two Service Packs applied to it, now would you?
Has anyone experienced the iPod kernel panic? I formatted both my computers to Tier with musiuc backed up on them on the iPod only to find that as soon as I connected the ipod, I got the BSSOD[1]. As the iPod is full to the brim I think it may have been to do with the spotlight searching index. [1] black shaded screen of death ;)
I'm experiencing another Spotlight issue. When I try to make a new Smart Folder, change the Kind to Others..., then start typing the kind I want, I get the spinning beach ball while the list of available kinds is loaded. Spotlight is supposed to be fast - I shouldn't be seeing the beach ball when creating a search query! The Spotlight menu item in the upper-right corner works as expected, although the search results aren't quite "instant". Spotlight also gets confused if you have a Smart Folder open while you edit filenames in the Smart Folder or move stuff to a location you've marked for Spotlight not to index. This is indicated by the Searching spinner displayed forever - it never seems to get the results, at least after I waited 30 seconds.
Had the same problem. Updated iPhoto to 5.0.2, and it worked.
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