What he is suggesting here strikes me as a call for a major revolution in the Open Source community. Creatinging a COM-ish (call it "GNU COMMIE", perhaps?) language for *nix and getting people to build apps for it could prove to be a huge organizational challenge.
One question, though... Are there many *n?x people out there who feel this is something we really need? Or is it just an accute case of code envy on the part of Miguel?
Protesters are being denied the one thing that will placate and empower them- a voice.
Bullshit.
He has a full-length column right here on Slashdot... and what did he use it for? To raise our concern about the plight of the homeless? To call for improved race relations? To express his views on the DEA?
No. He spent it telling us all how '1337 he was because he managed to act like an asshole in front of a cop until he got pulled off the street.
Look, if you and I bump into each other in a bar and I call you a "fucking dipshit hippie" and continue to berate you with angry words, and you punch me in the face, I can not have you arrested for assult. Do you know why? Because I picked the fight.
There is such a thing as verbal abuse. "Fighting words", as they are often called, are not protected speech under the First Amendment, at least not as the law currently stands. Sorry if that ruins your utopian view for America, but that is the way it is.
Verbal abuse (such as getting in somebody's face and telling them to "fuck off") is not free speech, it is confrontational behavior and a disturbance of the peace. It is also a violation of the cop's rights.
Asking somebody a suspicious looking nut what he has in his military surplus vest is not a violation of civil rights. It's just a question. If he had politely said, "nothing really, officer, just a pad and pencil. I'm a writer covering the protests," he most likely would have been sent on his way. Instead, he chose to pick a fight and act like a punk.
He gets no pity from me. Dicks like this are diminishing the social impact of real police violations, such as the fellow who was recently shot in NYC when he went for his wallet.
No, I was being deliberate about pointing out how outlandish his behavior was. Perhaps my statement would have been more obvious if I said "at a Jewel concert". You just want to get mad about something, don't you?
First of all, he was not arrested, he was apprehended.
Secondly, he was mouthing off to the cops and probably creating a much bigger disturbance than he is admitting to in his story. (It would be nice to get the other side of this tale from the cop who had to deal with him.)
Thirdly, the cops should be congratulated for the stellar work they did last week. No riots broke out; violent outbursts were brought to order quickly; most importantly: no deaths or serious injuries, in spite of a whole bunch of people like this guy doing their very best to stir up trouble.
If I ever am in town and meet one of these cops, I will want to shake his/her hand.
Where are the pro-proverty coalitions? What's next? Where is the Anti-Eating-Babys coalition, or the Stop-Kicking-Weiner-Dog coalition?
ROFLMAO
God that's funny. There's not a whole lot of need to "raise awareness" that poverty is bad. Well spotted
If all the energy these goofballs are spending on calling attention to how bad poverty is was instead used to actually help actual people, there would be no poverty to protest.
You have the right to convince law enforcement officers that you are a dangerous nutjob. If you choose to do so, they have the right, authority, and responsibility to ensure that you are not a danger to yourself and others, by confronting you, searching you, and even apprehending you. That's what we pay them for.
It very well might happen at the Democratic convention. Protesting is a lifestyle for some of these people.
On the other hand, certain sections of the protest crowds were actually gathered there by lobby groups (AKA PAC's), who support Al Gore, so the numbers might be a little smaller during the DNC... unless the NRA or the various fundamentalists decide to make asses of themselves.
"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no
Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized." (Emphasis added)
When a cop confronts a protester wearing gear designed for carrying grenades and gas masks, that is what is known as "probably cause", and it is very reasonable of them to search for weapons (some deadly weapons were found among some of the protesters last week).
When a person spews profanities and a police officer and behaves in a hostile manner, especially among a crowd, the correct thing to do is apprehend him before the situation escalates. If they failed to do so, and violence were to errupt shortly afterwards, it would mean their ass. The police are there to keep the peace, and this twerp was disturbing it. He could have picketed all week long without ever having any trouble with the law but he just had to go and f??? with the bull to see if he would get the horns.
What he was doing was the streetcorner equivalent of trolling on slashdot... acting like a dick to see if he could provoke a hostile response. I wonder if he wrote "YHBT YHL HAND" on the seat of the squad car.
No, fascism, by definition, is extremism in the cause of nationalism.
Interesting that you insist that moderation is "the only way we can move forward", and then in the very next sentence express a very extreme left-wing view.
It has often been noted that liberals in America have re-defined moderation as the liberal agenda being endorsed by conservatives. "We disagree, so you need to be more moderate." You have just provided more evidence of that trend.
Is the publishing of generic information in an online magazine considered a misappropriation of trade secrets or journalism?
Journalism.
Too bad for them, publishing "general information" is not what they did.
What constitutes a trade secret? (I really want to know)
Those who saw the Cube before its announcement signed a trade secret aggreement which forbid them from leaking the information. The publishers involved are believed to have known about this agreement when they distributed the leaked info and pictures. Like the previous poster pointed out, this is kind of like fencing stolen goods.
The bottom line here is that legally, Apple is probably right. They are being dicks, but as far as the law goes they are probably right.
A Browne-Nader debate would be about a billion times more interesting than the Bush-Gore confrontations we will soon be seeing, even though neither of them has a chance in hell of winning.
When I'm out in the woods, I always know what time it is... It's either daytime or night-time, and if I am hungry it is time to eat.
I also know what time it is when I am at a gathering with beer and music, it is party time.
Lastly, if you stop all the clocks and blot out the sun, I will still instinctively know when it is 7:00 PM Central Standard time on Tuesdays without fail, because that is when it is time for me to sit down and watch Buffy the Vampire Slayer.
Still not clear as to why you think I might need a watch.:)
Just ask Mr. Perot, who I understand is quite pissed about Buchanan.
Actually, I was under the impression that Buchanan was Perot's guy... and it is the other factions of the party (you know, all those pesky supporters that Perot attracted over the last few years) who want to bounce him out.
Makes sense to me - but is this backwards? I'm not claiming I'm right, but originally I thought that it was the libertarians who were becoming objectivists rather than the other way around.
Libertarians are not becoming objectivists and objectivists are not becoming libertarians... they are two very distinct pholosophies. What is happening is objectivists are joining the Libertarian Party, much to the dismay of libertarians who like their little club-house just fine without them.
The idea that comprises libertarianism - that governemt regulation and intervention can only ever be a bad thing and needs to be fought at all costs...
That;s not the idea that comprises libertarianism, but thanks for playing.
Anonymous beat me too it... He/she is excactly right; it is "promote" not "provide", and it does not mean "standardized education and some form of really basic universally accessible health care".
Education is provided by the states, not by the federal government, and health care opens a whole new can of worms.
Every argument you can possibly make for socialized medicine could also me made for socialized food distribution... after all, you gotta eat to live. Letting the government run health care effectively socializes one seventh of the economy.
The Ayn Rand folks tend to flock to Libertarian Party gatherings, because the major parties will not give them time of day, and the LP needs numbers at the polls if they are ever going to get major party status.
Coalitions like this seem strange sometimes, but that's the way it goes. The Democrats are a coalition of Old Money and labor unions; the Republicans are built with the New Rich and fundamentalist churches; the Green Party is a colorful blend of former hippies and Generation "Y" self-styled radicals.
The Reform Party is the most amusing, by far. Most of the grassroots support is made up of disgruntled former Democrats like Dean Barkley, but most of the Perot cartel at the top are pseudo-conservatives with protectionist hysteria that made them unwelcome among Republicans. Their convention was utter chaos, with people in suits fist-fighting at the podium. Their current national candidate is a former White House press-relations staffer who keeps making frequent overtures to the neo-nazis and then acts surprised when people get angry at him. No party in America is more fun to watch right now.
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You got a hell of a point there, AC. Of all the apps on my Linux box, GNOME is by far the suckiest.
One question, though... Are there many *n?x people out there who feel this is something we really need? Or is it just an accute case of code envy on the part of Miguel?
"Nobody goes there anymore. It's too crowded."
Bullshit.
He has a full-length column right here on Slashdot... and what did he use it for? To raise our concern about the plight of the homeless? To call for improved race relations? To express his views on the DEA?
No. He spent it telling us all how '1337 he was because he managed to act like an asshole in front of a cop until he got pulled off the street.
There is such a thing as verbal abuse. "Fighting words", as they are often called, are not protected speech under the First Amendment, at least not as the law currently stands. Sorry if that ruins your utopian view for America, but that is the way it is.
Asking somebody a suspicious looking nut what he has in his military surplus vest is not a violation of civil rights. It's just a question. If he had politely said, "nothing really, officer, just a pad and pencil. I'm a writer covering the protests," he most likely would have been sent on his way. Instead, he chose to pick a fight and act like a punk.
He gets no pity from me. Dicks like this are diminishing the social impact of real police violations, such as the fellow who was recently shot in NYC when he went for his wallet.
No, I was being deliberate about pointing out how outlandish his behavior was. Perhaps my statement would have been more obvious if I said "at a Jewel concert". You just want to get mad about something, don't you?
You obviously have never seen the show.
No, he was shoved into a paddy wagon and given a chance to cool off before he incited anybody to violence.
Do the same thing a hundred times in a hundred cities and the same result will occur, because that's what the cops are trained to do.
Secondly, he was mouthing off to the cops and probably creating a much bigger disturbance than he is admitting to in his story. (It would be nice to get the other side of this tale from the cop who had to deal with him.)
Thirdly, the cops should be congratulated for the stellar work they did last week. No riots broke out; violent outbursts were brought to order quickly; most importantly: no deaths or serious injuries, in spite of a whole bunch of people like this guy doing their very best to stir up trouble.
If I ever am in town and meet one of these cops, I will want to shake his/her hand.
Well said. This kind of "activism" is not standing up for social justice; it's just a popular alternative to stage diving at a Phish concert.
Okay, everybody was looking at you for a few seconds. We're happy for you. Now go back to the mosh pit and play.
Then again, spending a day working at a soup kitchen or detox center won't result in an article in /. about how '1337 you are, will it?
ROFLMAO
God that's funny. There's not a whole lot of need to "raise awareness" that poverty is bad. Well spotted
If all the energy these goofballs are spending on calling attention to how bad poverty is was instead used to actually help actual people, there would be no poverty to protest.
You have the right to convince law enforcement officers that you are a dangerous nutjob. If you choose to do so, they have the right, authority, and responsibility to ensure that you are not a danger to yourself and others, by confronting you, searching you, and even apprehending you. That's what we pay them for.
On the other hand, certain sections of the protest crowds were actually gathered there by lobby groups (AKA PAC's), who support Al Gore, so the numbers might be a little smaller during the DNC... unless the NRA or the various fundamentalists decide to make asses of themselves.
sorry for the typo.
"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized." (Emphasis added)
When a cop confronts a protester wearing gear designed for carrying grenades and gas masks, that is what is known as "probably cause", and it is very reasonable of them to search for weapons (some deadly weapons were found among some of the protesters last week).
When a person spews profanities and a police officer and behaves in a hostile manner, especially among a crowd, the correct thing to do is apprehend him before the situation escalates. If they failed to do so, and violence were to errupt shortly afterwards, it would mean their ass. The police are there to keep the peace, and this twerp was disturbing it. He could have picketed all week long without ever having any trouble with the law but he just had to go and f??? with the bull to see if he would get the horns.
What he was doing was the streetcorner equivalent of trolling on slashdot... acting like a dick to see if he could provoke a hostile response. I wonder if he wrote "YHBT YHL HAND" on the seat of the squad car.
No, fascism, by definition, is extremism in the cause of nationalism.
Interesting that you insist that moderation is "the only way we can move forward", and then in the very next sentence express a very extreme left-wing view.
It has often been noted that liberals in America have re-defined moderation as the liberal agenda being endorsed by conservatives. "We disagree, so you need to be more moderate." You have just provided more evidence of that trend.
Journalism.
Too bad for them, publishing "general information" is not what they did.
What constitutes a trade secret? (I really want to know)
Those who saw the Cube before its announcement signed a trade secret aggreement which forbid them from leaking the information. The publishers involved are believed to have known about this agreement when they distributed the leaked info and pictures. Like the previous poster pointed out, this is kind of like fencing stolen goods.
The bottom line here is that legally, Apple is probably right. They are being dicks, but as far as the law goes they are probably right.
A Browne-Nader debate would be about a billion times more interesting than the Bush-Gore confrontations we will soon be seeing, even though neither of them has a chance in hell of winning.
I also know what time it is when I am at a gathering with beer and music, it is party time.
Lastly, if you stop all the clocks and blot out the sun, I will still instinctively know when it is 7:00 PM Central Standard time on Tuesdays without fail, because that is when it is time for me to sit down and watch Buffy the Vampire Slayer.
Still not clear as to why you think I might need a watch. :)
Actually, I was under the impression that Buchanan was Perot's guy... and it is the other factions of the party (you know, all those pesky supporters that Perot attracted over the last few years) who want to bounce him out.
Makes sense to me - but is this backwards? I'm not claiming I'm right, but originally I thought that it was the libertarians who were becoming objectivists rather than the other way around.
Libertarians are not becoming objectivists and objectivists are not becoming libertarians... they are two very distinct pholosophies. What is happening is objectivists are joining the Libertarian Party, much to the dismay of libertarians who like their little club-house just fine without them.
That;s not the idea that comprises libertarianism, but thanks for playing.
Education is provided by the states, not by the federal government, and health care opens a whole new can of worms.
Every argument you can possibly make for socialized medicine could also me made for socialized food distribution... after all, you gotta eat to live. Letting the government run health care effectively socializes one seventh of the economy.
Coalitions like this seem strange sometimes, but that's the way it goes. The Democrats are a coalition of Old Money and labor unions; the Republicans are built with the New Rich and fundamentalist churches; the Green Party is a colorful blend of former hippies and Generation "Y" self-styled radicals.
The Reform Party is the most amusing, by far. Most of the grassroots support is made up of disgruntled former Democrats like Dean Barkley, but most of the Perot cartel at the top are pseudo-conservatives with protectionist hysteria that made them unwelcome among Republicans. Their convention was utter chaos, with people in suits fist-fighting at the podium. Their current national candidate is a former White House press-relations staffer who keeps making frequent overtures to the neo-nazis and then acts surprised when people get angry at him. No party in America is more fun to watch right now.