When I first started lurking on/., I had not used *n?x, and had no idea that "^H" was an ascii representation of the UNIX backspace... But by reading the context of the comments, I understood the meaning right away.
To not get what was being said, you would have to be 1: Not a geek (not a UNIX geek, anyway), 2: Unable to easilly understand geek humor, and 3: Unwilling to think.
Geeky shorthand, like using a bang to say "not", adds a lot of color to this site, and I like it.
Please redirect all future complaints about this stuff to/dev/null.
Since TLD's are, as we all now agree, No Help Whatsoever, why don't we just get rid of them entirely?
slashdot.org would just be "slashdot", and "www.microsoft.com" would just be "www.microsoft" (or "www.microsoft1" and "www.microsoft2" by late next year).
If you really wanted to put something in your url to identify your organization type, you could always just put it at the beginning, like "edu.lcs.mit".
Yea, and also explain who in the hell would take the trouble to bootleg a crappy film like Stigmata... and how piracy could possibly cost them money in the case of a film nobody wants to see.
Sorry for the off-topic rant I am about to go on, but that strikes me as the most misinformed definitions of socialism and of anarchy that I have seen in quite some time.
Socialist are most definately not libertarians, and anarchists are certainly not democrats. Also, corporate welfare does not really adhere to capitalism; free-market capitalist purists despise all corporate subsidies. You are confusing "capitalism" with "those damn Republicans".
Let us begin with socialism. In a nutshell, it means that the state owns all property. No private ownership is recognized. Or, as Webster put it... 1 : any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods 2 a : a system of society or group living in which there is no private property b : a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state 3 : a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done
Now for anarchy, which means the absense of recognized rulers. Each person is responsible for protecting their own rights, including property rights, because there is no govorning authority. Again, turning to Webster... 1 a : absence of government b : a state of lawlessness or political disorder due to the absence of governmental authority c : a utopian society of individuals who enjoy complete freedom without government 2 a : absence or denial of any authority or established order b : absence of order : DISORDER
In short, the post you were responding to is correct. You can't have state ownership of property if you do not have a state which governs that ownership, and you can't have total freedom from governing authority if you allow all property to be controlled by a governing state... therefore socialism and anarchy are entirely mutually exclusive. QED.
How some people choose to define themselves is irrelevent. If you do not believe that the state should own all property and control the economy, you are not a socialist, just a Democratic Party member with a Karl Marx T-shirt. If you consider government to be a "necessary evil in some situations" you are not an anarchist, just a kid who likes calling himself that because it sounds cool.
I feel that WINE is a giant waste of resources. I don't think we should try to promote the user of the Win32 interface on top of Linux. Win32 is well known to have problems even running on it's native OS, why do we think we will make it better by putting Linux under it.
That is a very valid opinion, from an engineering and design perspective, but in Real Life there are a lot of apps out there that are Windows-only, and more coming out every day. Many of them have small enough user bases that they are not worth porting individually, so being able to run an emmulator "for that one app" is a valuable asset.
Linux and Mac cheerleaders need to keep this in mind. There are a lot of users out there that find themselves saying, "I would use $SYSTEM all the time, except I need to be able to run $APPLICATION."
If and when Linux starts showing up on a large percentage of desktop machines, all developers will feel the need to produce Linux versions of their programs. Until then, WINE and TWINE are critical to winning users over, and ushering in a time when they are no longer needed.
I mean, if somebody has me agree that I will not sue them if they attack me
Once upon a time, private contracts were upheld by the law... but let's face it, contract law is dead these days.
You could still sue him for attacking you, claiming that you did not enter the contract voluntarilly, or that you were drunk when he got you to sign it, or whatever. His lawyer will advise that he settle out of court, and you cash in.
On the other hand, some contracts are flat-out illegal, though. For example, you can not sell yourself into indentured servitute (slavery). This was the business model that many poor Europeans used to pay their way to America in the early 1800's. It still goes on illegally among Chinese immigrants who are smuggled in on cargo ships, but the feds are trying to crack down on it.
By the way, since there are so few lawyers on/. it seems like we could save about 5 bytes per post by just asking the lawyers to say "IAAL", and assume that everybody else is not.
Even if the felony charge is true she might have a case.
Of course, IANAL, but anybody who reads the fine print on a job application knows that not all past criminal activities make you unfit for a job.
A day care center can refuse to hire a ex-con child abuser, and a security firm might refuse to hire Kevin Mitnick (once his parole is up).
On the other hand, if a day care center refuses to hire Mitnick based on an unrelated criminal past, it would be unfair discrimination, and is actually illegal in some states... and a civil case in some others.
If the charge is false, your friend should not wait around for all the "ask slashdot" responses. Run, don't walk, to your lawyer's office. Jackie Childs is gonna make you rich! Rich, I tells ya!
(Of course, true Nerds may choose to wait another year or so until the digicams arrive built around the tiny 500MB micro-optical disks...)
Not really... true Nerds, like Andy Ihnatko, have been taking digital pictures of everything in their line of sight, and writing about it, for years. With better cameras than the Sony, too.
Not many Wintel and Linux people read Ihnatko's stuff, because the old saw, "Macs are for graphics" is often wrongly correlated to "graphics are for Macs"... but his stuff is worth reading if you are interested in this stuff, no matter what platform you use.
Amid his humorous Mac-centric rants, you can find some darn good advice about digital photography (and other gadget lore).
As for Sony using CDR's? Well, every innovation drives down the cost of earlier iterations of any given gadget, meaning that this might make the camera I actually want a little bit cheaper. Even if I don't want the Sony, this is good news to me.:)
By the way, I should point out that since we are using sed on Linux boxes, and Linux relies on some FSF-built tools, we should really be calling this "GNU/Lars-o-matic", and anybody who doesn't is spreading evil corporate disinformation. You bastards need to stop stealing all the credit away from RMS, without whom none of this would be possible.
Yours is a much more accurate description than mine, although an indefinitely contant 1g of acceleration is not so easy to obtain.
I was simply trying to explain some the problems of reaching light speed in terms the layman could understand. With that goal in mind, everything you mentioned concerning relative dimensions fits under what I described as "other hard math problems".:)
News Flash: NASA Issues Press Statement About Propulsion System They Have Been Working On Since 1979
"We are researching it, and we think it will work," says top NASA spin-doctor, "although we will not be launching anything like this anytime soon. We are very excited about it, and the opportunities it will create."
This astounding news came on the heels of an earlier report from NASA (last year) when they said, "we are researching it, and we think it will work, although we will not be launching anything like this anytime soon. We are very excited about it, and the opportunities it will create."
For objects with mass, it is only possible to assymptotically approach c, and I'm sure you would run out of fuel before you were close
To clarify this point for those who were too busy learing C++ in school to read any Einstein:
As an object with mass approaches the speed of light, the ammount of force required to accelerate approaches infinity.
Therefore the speed of light (represented as "c") is not only theoretically impossible for a passenger vehicle to reach, but before you even get up to that speed you will reach a point where more acceleration is Not Worth The Trouble.
On top of that, there are troublesome issues of time deceleration and lots of other hard math problems that lead one to desire a better way of getting from point A to distant point B than getting a rocket to go "really really fast". Some serious thought and lots of bad sci-fi has been applied to this problem, but so far with few promising conclusions.
It's worth noting that pretty much everything that works in sh will also work in ksh.
For that matter, almost all shells can grok sh commands fairly well.
So as long as you know where your favorite shell differs from Bourne, you can get things done in most of the other shells out there. If you find yourself using an enemy shell a lot (and it sounds like that it your situation), an ORA animal book can help you find all the spiffy features that are different.
Beyond that, we would just be getting into religious issues.
A lot of the systems where I work (Lucent) have ksh only, or if they have other shells, default to ksh and I can't figure out how to change it.
If you are using SCO, it defaults to ksh, and you probably also have sh and csh. Korn shell offers plenty of flexibility, but I can see how some people would not like it, espesially if they are not comfortable with vi commands.
And just like the airlines can not blame the passengers when they all show up, you can't blame somebody who is paying for unlimited broadband for actually using it.
Today if you have talent you can get a deal if you bust your ass enough.
Are you trying to say that it is "talent" and "busting their asses" that got 'N Sync signed, as opposed to "dumb luck"? That I could not throw a rock into a random bar or coffee house and hit a better musician with my eyes closed?
I subscribe to xDSL, and pay a lot more for it. If I want to use that connection to download an entire Linux distro in one shot while playing EQ on another system, then that's my business. If my ISP could not handle the traffic, then they would not sell me the connection.
I'm sure you would like things the way they were "back in the day", when we all were using the Internet for nothing but Gopher and Newsgroups, and nobody transfered anything at speeds above 9600 baud, but that day has passed. Try to get over it.
Since my aunt, who lives about two hours away from anything that could be called a city, gets a dial-up account for less that $15/mo from a mom&pop ISP, it's pretty tough to get all that worked up over this "issue".
If I were running an ISP, I would frankly be a lot more worried about the chance of Roadrunner Cable (and the various DSL providers) shutting me out of the broadband market than the possibility that my parent connection is gouging me for a few extra bucks.
All you no-nukes enviroterrorist freaks ought to put your luddism where your mouth is...
Okay, I stand corrected. One person has flamed me.
Since I am not no-nukes, not an enviroterrorist freak, and not a luddite (in fact, I am a very libertarian techno-phile who thinks nuclear power is a better way to go than burning coal), I did not realize that the flames were directed at me.
How strange that somebody modderated this down as "flame-bait". I wonder who would flame me for my comments? A DoE rep? Pyramid scheme con-artists? Nobody has flamed me for saying this yet, so I'm not really sure what they are talking about.
I stand by my comment. This statement from the DoE was intended to scare us into supporting their expansion.
The notion that a rise in computer use will spike power consumption enough this summer to cause nationwide blackouts is hysterical.
But the large congolmerates have a stake in the production of music.
So did patrons. They weren't sponsoring arts out of the goodness of their hearts. If you had a Mozart or a Haydn working for you, it was like owning the Dallas Cowboys in the 90's... bragging rights among other rich bastards, plus a nice return on your investment.
For every Mozart who fritters his paltry allowance away, there were hundreds of Ernests, Henris, and Jacobs, who shovelled shit because they couldn't get a patron.
Unlike today, when for every Lars there are thousands of garage band drummers who work as dishwashers and gas station attendants because they can't get a record contract.
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In one paragraph of "Beavis and Butthead" -esque sarcasm, he neatly expressed exactly how much impact this "technology" will really have on the world.
Heh. You sound like an American. Nice to know there are a few capitalists across the pond.
Come on over some time... We'll go to a target range and shoot guns. :)
To not get what was being said, you would have to be 1: Not a geek (not a UNIX geek, anyway), 2: Unable to easilly understand geek humor, and 3: Unwilling to think.
Geeky shorthand, like using a bang to say "not", adds a lot of color to this site, and I like it.
Please redirect all future complaints about this stuff to /dev/null.
slashdot.org would just be "slashdot", and "www.microsoft.com" would just be "www.microsoft" (or "www.microsoft1" and "www.microsoft2" by late next year).
If you really wanted to put something in your url to identify your organization type, you could always just put it at the beginning, like "edu.lcs.mit".
Does anybody see a problem with this?
Yea, and also explain who in the hell would take the trouble to bootleg a crappy film like Stigmata... and how piracy could possibly cost them money in the case of a film nobody wants to see.
Socialist are most definately not libertarians, and anarchists are certainly not democrats. Also, corporate welfare does not really adhere to capitalism; free-market capitalist purists despise all corporate subsidies. You are confusing "capitalism" with "those damn Republicans".
Let us begin with socialism. In a nutshell, it means that the state owns all property. No private ownership is recognized. Or, as Webster put it... 1 : any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods 2 a : a system of society or group living in which there is no private property b : a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state 3 : a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done
Now for anarchy, which means the absense of recognized rulers. Each person is responsible for protecting their own rights, including property rights, because there is no govorning authority. Again, turning to Webster... 1 a : absence of government b : a state of lawlessness or political disorder due to the absence of governmental authority c : a utopian society of individuals who enjoy complete freedom without government 2 a : absence or denial of any authority or established order b : absence of order : DISORDER
In short, the post you were responding to is correct. You can't have state ownership of property if you do not have a state which governs that ownership, and you can't have total freedom from governing authority if you allow all property to be controlled by a governing state... therefore socialism and anarchy are entirely mutually exclusive. QED.
How some people choose to define themselves is irrelevent. If you do not believe that the state should own all property and control the economy, you are not a socialist, just a Democratic Party member with a Karl Marx T-shirt. If you consider government to be a "necessary evil in some situations" you are not an anarchist, just a kid who likes calling himself that because it sounds cool.
That is a very valid opinion, from an engineering and design perspective, but in Real Life there are a lot of apps out there that are Windows-only, and more coming out every day. Many of them have small enough user bases that they are not worth porting individually, so being able to run an emmulator "for that one app" is a valuable asset.
Linux and Mac cheerleaders need to keep this in mind. There are a lot of users out there that find themselves saying, "I would use $SYSTEM all the time, except I need to be able to run $APPLICATION."
If and when Linux starts showing up on a large percentage of desktop machines, all developers will feel the need to produce Linux versions of their programs. Until then, WINE and TWINE are critical to winning users over, and ushering in a time when they are no longer needed.
Once upon a time, private contracts were upheld by the law... but let's face it, contract law is dead these days.
You could still sue him for attacking you, claiming that you did not enter the contract voluntarilly, or that you were drunk when he got you to sign it, or whatever. His lawyer will advise that he settle out of court, and you cash in.
On the other hand, some contracts are flat-out illegal, though. For example, you can not sell yourself into indentured servitute (slavery). This was the business model that many poor Europeans used to pay their way to America in the early 1800's. It still goes on illegally among Chinese immigrants who are smuggled in on cargo ships, but the feds are trying to crack down on it.
By the way, since there are so few lawyers on /. it seems like we could save about 5 bytes per post by just asking the lawyers to say "IAAL", and assume that everybody else is not.
Oh yea, and IANAL.
Of course, IANAL, but anybody who reads the fine print on a job application knows that not all past criminal activities make you unfit for a job.
A day care center can refuse to hire a ex-con child abuser, and a security firm might refuse to hire Kevin Mitnick (once his parole is up).
On the other hand, if a day care center refuses to hire Mitnick based on an unrelated criminal past, it would be unfair discrimination, and is actually illegal in some states... and a civil case in some others.
If the charge is false, your friend should not wait around for all the "ask slashdot" responses. Run, don't walk, to your lawyer's office. Jackie Childs is gonna make you rich! Rich, I tells ya!
Not really... true Nerds, like Andy Ihnatko, have been taking digital pictures of everything in their line of sight, and writing about it, for years. With better cameras than the Sony, too.
Not many Wintel and Linux people read Ihnatko's stuff, because the old saw, "Macs are for graphics" is often wrongly correlated to "graphics are for Macs"... but his stuff is worth reading if you are interested in this stuff, no matter what platform you use.
Amid his humorous Mac-centric rants, you can find some darn good advice about digital photography (and other gadget lore).
As for Sony using CDR's? Well, every innovation drives down the cost of earlier iterations of any given gadget, meaning that this might make the camera I actually want a little bit cheaper. Even if I don't want the Sony, this is good news to me. :)
s/', '/', uh, '/g
By the way, I should point out that since we are using sed on Linux boxes, and Linux relies on some FSF-built tools, we should really be calling this "GNU/Lars-o-matic", and anybody who doesn't is spreading evil corporate disinformation. You bastards need to stop stealing all the credit away from RMS, without whom none of this would be possible.
I was simply trying to explain some the problems of reaching light speed in terms the layman could understand. With that goal in mind, everything you mentioned concerning relative dimensions fits under what I described as "other hard math problems". :)
News Flash: NASA Issues Press Statement About Propulsion System They Have Been Working On Since 1979
"We are researching it, and we think it will work," says top NASA spin-doctor, "although we will not be launching anything like this anytime soon. We are very excited about it, and the opportunities it will create."
This astounding news came on the heels of an earlier report from NASA (last year) when they said, "we are researching it, and we think it will work, although we will not be launching anything like this anytime soon. We are very excited about it, and the opportunities it will create."
When nothing happens again, we will be there.
To clarify this point for those who were too busy learing C++ in school to read any Einstein:
As an object with mass approaches the speed of light, the ammount of force required to accelerate approaches infinity.
Therefore the speed of light (represented as "c") is not only theoretically impossible for a passenger vehicle to reach, but before you even get up to that speed you will reach a point where more acceleration is Not Worth The Trouble.
On top of that, there are troublesome issues of time deceleration and lots of other hard math problems that lead one to desire a better way of getting from point A to distant point B than getting a rocket to go "really really fast". Some serious thought and lots of bad sci-fi has been applied to this problem, but so far with few promising conclusions.
For that matter, almost all shells can grok sh commands fairly well.
So as long as you know where your favorite shell differs from Bourne, you can get things done in most of the other shells out there. If you find yourself using an enemy shell a lot (and it sounds like that it your situation), an ORA animal book can help you find all the spiffy features that are different.
Beyond that, we would just be getting into religious issues.
True enough.
Personally, I'm more of a vi person anyway, so I don't consider it an issue. :)
If you are using SCO, it defaults to ksh, and you probably also have sh and csh. Korn shell offers plenty of flexibility, but I can see how some people would not like it, espesially if they are not comfortable with vi commands.
And just like the airlines can not blame the passengers when they all show up, you can't blame somebody who is paying for unlimited broadband for actually using it.
Are you trying to say that it is "talent" and "busting their asses" that got 'N Sync signed, as opposed to "dumb luck"? That I could not throw a rock into a random bar or coffee house and hit a better musician with my eyes closed?
Nice to know that optimism is not dead.
I subscribe to xDSL, and pay a lot more for it. If I want to use that connection to download an entire Linux distro in one shot while playing EQ on another system, then that's my business. If my ISP could not handle the traffic, then they would not sell me the connection.
I'm sure you would like things the way they were "back in the day", when we all were using the Internet for nothing but Gopher and Newsgroups, and nobody transfered anything at speeds above 9600 baud, but that day has passed. Try to get over it.
If I were running an ISP, I would frankly be a lot more worried about the chance of Roadrunner Cable (and the various DSL providers) shutting me out of the broadband market than the possibility that my parent connection is gouging me for a few extra bucks.
Okay, I stand corrected. One person has flamed me.
Since I am not no-nukes, not an enviroterrorist freak, and not a luddite (in fact, I am a very libertarian techno-phile who thinks nuclear power is a better way to go than burning coal), I did not realize that the flames were directed at me.
I still don't think I was baiting anybody.
I stand by my comment. This statement from the DoE was intended to scare us into supporting their expansion.
The notion that a rise in computer use will spike power consumption enough this summer to cause nationwide blackouts is hysterical.
So did patrons. They weren't sponsoring arts out of the goodness of their hearts. If you had a Mozart or a Haydn working for you, it was like owning the Dallas Cowboys in the 90's... bragging rights among other rich bastards, plus a nice return on your investment.
Unlike today, when for every Lars there are thousands of garage band drummers who work as dishwashers and gas station attendants because they can't get a record contract.