486 DX4 75 Mhz Laptop. 12 Mb RAM, 340 Mb Hard Disk Drive, 3.5" Floppy Drive Suit Student for cheap Wordprocessor Good Condition
36UKP on eBay just now. 9 hours to go. Surely someone reading/. in S.A. could find a similar local deal...
Corporations costs go through the roof for every little thing. To release an old laptop, someone has to first find one, make sure it's unused, if it is used order and commission a replacement, blah blah blah. Hence I'm not surprised by the response you got.
<sarcasm>Yeah your right, as soon as my needs exceed about 100 applications, I should go buy a new computer.</sarcasm>
I'm joking. A server? perhaps a handful of apps is reasonable. A desktop? I install new applications (if you can use the word to describe small utilities) every couple of days. Of course I need scope for 2000 apps on my machine. I have thousands of things I want to do with my computer, not just one or two. And with an 80Gb hard disk, the only way I could fill that with data would be endless MP3s or video sequences, which I don't do, so why shouldn't I fill it with apps?
Well, I like package managers (I apt-get) as much as the next person, but the man has a point; what happens when your package management is broken? rm -rf is unlikely to break. I've seen a few broken package management databases.
This printer was / is an abomination. Somebody mentioned PCL drivers, I don't trust them. I was never able to get this printer to work with Windows NT.
And if your sitting at home, your traffic can be monitored by your ISP. Most people use anonymizers to bypass corporate proxies, because they don't want the corporate security people knowing what porn, sport and travel sites they've been surfing.
You're right. The only type of person I can imagine being motivated by this bounty is someone doing it for fun, or who wants to learn. Most probably NOT someone who "MUST have signal processing experience" (as stated in the announcement), but perhaps someone who wants to learn...
I don't think you'll be able to hire someone with signal processing experience for $20,000. Not if the project is going to take more than a couple of months, in which case, why hasn't it already been done?
So how will the people who know how to block stuff turn the logging off?
Unless they administer the servers, of course, which they don't.
I take it you haven't seen an apache access log file. That's all the 'spyware' you need, my point was that many places do only a minimum of log analysis because it's laborious and tedious, so it should be made easy and inexpensive.
1. Filtering browsers in wide circulation. I.E.'s 'zones' are not very obvious, most users don't understand how they work. Mozilla, galeon and the like have good interfaces for filtering. (right-click, block)
2. Good, free, log analysis software (I'm sure this is already there.)
3. A campaign to encourage web designers / admins to use the log analysis software so they know what people are blocking. Then they might stop putting it up which is the important bit.
Will this ever happen? I doubt it.
Instead, companies will just come up with clever ways to bypass filtering. Block by domain? Fine, they'll use dynamic domain names for the sources.
The guy's comment is just a link to the front page of the Panasonic support site. The story is looking for information on a file format, PBE. A search for 'pbe' on the site yields no results.
A Google search for KV-F510 yields no results.
Five minutes of searching for pbe gives only irrelevant results.
Thus the problem of proprietary data formats is illustrated.
I'm in the UK (Edinburgh, Scotland). I get the impression from that link that I won't be able to see much. But it doesn't really go into detail about my area. Can anyone tell me if I'll be in luck?
All well and good, but developers shouldn't get into Free Software without expecting thankless effort. If they expect that, when they do get thanks, it'll be all the more appreciated.
OTOH users shouldn't get into it expecting polished customer service attitudes from all of the developers, all of the time. If they expect to be lambasted at every turn, then when they find someone who's extremely polite and helpful it will be very pleasant. I'm thinking of Muhri, lead developer of the Pronto mail client. He is the most helpful developer I have ever spoken to. Then again, I try to be a polite user.
Best of all is if people can forget their roles of "user" and "developer" and just try and be partners in the whole game. We can dream.
There is no GPL violation. Read the email exchange. Pfisterer does not seem to understand the licensing terms of the GPL himself. There is no need to 'give credit' beyond maintaining copyright notices, and they don't need to be on the web site, they need to come with the source. Trust me, I'm a GPL bigot.
How many mistypes do you make though? Doesn't matter during a game of quake if it coms out a byt wron gbut professional typists don't make mistakes. That's the 90wps.
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Don't you have eBay in S.A.?
/. in S.A. could find a similar local deal...
486 DX4 75 Mhz Laptop. 12 Mb RAM, 340 Mb Hard Disk Drive, 3.5" Floppy Drive Suit Student for cheap Wordprocessor Good Condition
36UKP on eBay just now. 9 hours to go. Surely someone reading
Corporations costs go through the roof for every little thing. To release an old laptop, someone has to first find one, make sure it's unused, if it is used order and commission a replacement, blah blah blah. Hence I'm not surprised by the response you got.
<sarcasm>Yeah your right, as soon as my needs exceed about 100 applications, I should go buy a new computer.</sarcasm>
I'm joking. A server? perhaps a handful of apps is reasonable. A desktop? I install new applications (if you can use the word to describe small utilities) every couple of days. Of course I need scope for 2000 apps on my machine. I have thousands of things I want to do with my computer, not just one or two. And with an 80Gb hard disk, the only way I could fill that with data would be endless MP3s or video sequences, which I don't do, so why shouldn't I fill it with apps?
Well, I like package managers (I apt-get) as much as the next person, but the man has a point; what happens when your package management is broken? rm -rf is unlikely to break. I've seen a few broken package management databases.
This printer was / is an abomination. Somebody mentioned PCL drivers, I don't trust them. I was never able to get this printer to work with Windows NT.
And if your sitting at home, your traffic can be monitored by your ISP. Most people use anonymizers to bypass corporate proxies, because they don't want the corporate security people knowing what porn, sport and travel sites they've been surfing.
That's not anonymous. You can be traced back to your companies firewall / proxy and then traced back to your machine via proxy logs.
Trust me, I run corporate firewalls and proxies.
Tell us how, then, if your sitting behind a corporate proxy and firewall?
Maybe someone wants to learn? Who else would this bounty motivate? Not a seasoned DSP coder making much more than this in there day job.
I think this term of the bounty is probably its major flaw.
You're right. The only type of person I can imagine being motivated by this bounty is someone doing it for fun, or who wants to learn. Most probably NOT someone who "MUST have signal processing experience" (as stated in the announcement), but perhaps someone who wants to learn...
I don't think you'll be able to hire someone with signal processing experience for $20,000. Not if the project is going to take more than a couple of months, in which case, why hasn't it already been done?
It's wonderful you took the time to compose that.
So how will the people who know how to block stuff turn the logging off?
Unless they administer the servers, of course, which they don't.
I take it you haven't seen an apache access log file. That's all the 'spyware' you need, my point was that many places do only a minimum of log analysis because it's laborious and tedious, so it should be made easy and inexpensive.
I'm afraid I don't understand your comment, though I think I understand the sentiment.
This is the most upsetting story I've ever read on Slashdot; it reminds of Fahrenheit 451.
Please, citizens of the US, stop your government before it's too late.
Is:
1. Filtering browsers in wide circulation. I.E.'s 'zones' are not very obvious, most users don't understand how they work. Mozilla, galeon and the like have good interfaces for filtering. (right-click, block)
2. Good, free, log analysis software (I'm sure this is already there.)
3. A campaign to encourage web designers / admins to use the log analysis software so they know what people are blocking. Then they might stop putting it up which is the important bit.
Will this ever happen? I doubt it.
Instead, companies will just come up with clever ways to bypass filtering. Block by domain? Fine, they'll use dynamic domain names for the sources.
overrated? Would someone care to explain that?
The guy's comment is just a link to the front page of the Panasonic support site. The story is looking for information on a file format, PBE. A search for 'pbe' on the site yields no results.
A Google search for KV-F510 yields no results.
Five minutes of searching for pbe gives only irrelevant results.
Thus the problem of proprietary data formats is illustrated.
I agree. They could even have an automatic check for broken URLs... though it might be resource intensive.
I didn't think my post was flamebait though.
And I can't see this link you are talking about anywhere in this story or in the comments... so it's not that silly a question.
Thanks, sorry for being lazy but I am pretty busy just now with other things...
I'm in the UK (Edinburgh, Scotland). I get the impression from that link that I won't be able to see much. But it doesn't really go into detail about my area. Can anyone tell me if I'll be in luck?
Thanks.
I cant believe how retarded slashdot is
Slashdot does those things to prevent hastiness leading to lame posts... like the two you created.
Whether it's foolproof or not is clearly open to question.
All well and good, but developers shouldn't get into Free Software without expecting thankless effort. If they expect that, when they do get thanks, it'll be all the more appreciated.
OTOH users shouldn't get into it expecting polished customer service attitudes from all of the developers, all of the time. If they expect to be lambasted at every turn, then when they find someone who's extremely polite and helpful it will be very pleasant. I'm thinking of Muhri, lead developer of the Pronto mail client. He is the most helpful developer I have ever spoken to. Then again, I try to be a polite user.
Best of all is if people can forget their roles of "user" and "developer" and just try and be partners in the whole game. We can dream.
There is no GPL violation. Read the email exchange. Pfisterer does not seem to understand the licensing terms of the GPL himself. There is no need to 'give credit' beyond maintaining copyright notices, and they don't need to be on the web site, they need to come with the source. Trust me, I'm a GPL bigot.
How many mistypes do you make though? Doesn't matter during a game of quake if it coms out a byt wron gbut professional typists don't make mistakes. That's the 90wps.
and user mode linux [sourceforge.net] provide no control over how much resources one virtual server gets over another besides disk usage
That's wrong, you can specify RAM allocation in UML.
Commitment to the cause? That's certainly something Alan seems to have plenty of.
And there's fun and engagement in most aspects of life, if you are open to it.