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Safeweb Turns Off Free Service
An Anonymous Coward writes: "Seems like Safeweb was the last one to cancel providing free anonymizing service. Rest in peace, Safeweb, I loved you a lot. With Anonymouse down and Anonymizer.com restricted, are there any free services left for those suffering from corporate oppression?"
I totally dig the fact that the submitter of this story was 'anonymous coward'...!
Noproxy still works. There is also a list of free services at antiproxy. I personlly run my own CGI Proxy on my home server while I am at school.
Although it sucks.
Seems like Safeweb was the last one to cancel providing free anonymizing service. Rest in peace, Safeweb, I loved you a lot.
Hmm, you loved it a lot, but you're not willing to pay, eh? Sounds like the tombstone of every other dot-com. What's the surprise here? When people realize that you have to pay to play, maybe the dot-com economy will change. News flash, folks, if there's something good, and you love it, you need to chip in and contribute. If you don't, as they say on public radio, nobody else will.
What's your damage, Heather?
Isn't it funny that one of Safeweb's main investors is a company controlled by the CIA called In-Q-Tel. Here is Safeweb's investors page.
Just wear tinfoil on your head... it totally eliminates the corporate oppression! It really works! I used to be oppressed on a daily basis. But ever since I started where the tin foil hat, people avoid me like the plague! I've even seen people cross the street to avoid walking by me!
Finally! The power is mine!
... avaliable from here and here.
James F.
AFAIK the majority of anonymiser services have gone underground to the extent that they tend not to want to advertise their services, working instead by word of mouth. Personally I wouldn't even want to be a user of an anonymising service where the operator/s weren't in some way known to be to be trustworthy.
There's possibly more safety in diversity when it comes to anonymising services. (Though that is debatable)
A little planning goes a long way...
There is still work being done with AT&T's crowds. Basically, the caveat is that you have'ta share the load if you wanna use the service. Good karma there.
Before I part with'em: two pennies weigh ~4.996+/-0.014g, have a zinc core, and the face of Lincoln. You can keep 'em.
Why not do it yourself? Its not all that hard to mask your IP, or pull a couple of the same tricks spammers use to spam people... anonymously at that...
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http://anon.inf.tu-dresden.de is still beta but
working...
So you're sending your credit card details to an anonymising service. How long will you stay anonymous?
the development of the freenet project is making progress, and is just ahead of a breakthrough release. some people already work on an anonymous messaging and email service.
if they get the 0.5 release done well, it would allow many kinds of anonymous communications services which no one could ever close down!
I like to use sneakemail for hiding my true email address from the multitude of lists and webpages I sometimes use.
Do not spread "09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0" over the internet, thank you.
Perhaps there are still some free alternatives. I haven't tried any of those listed though. Maybe someone can provide some feedback.
The other possibility of course is to use something like Freenet. Although nobody is totally anonymous on freenet, at least everyone is almost anonymous, which I feel is much better than the current situation. Of course, big-brother types will disagree and claim it is far too dangerous.
"are there any free services left for those suffering from corporate oppression?"
Have you ever heard of a search engine?
Case closed.
corporate oppresion? if you're doing stuff at work that you're not supposed to, you should probably be at least reprimanded (docked pay perhaps) and probably should be fired! If you want to surf anonymously (ie without your employer finding out where you are) do it from home. Why should you get paid to do things that are against company policy like look at pornography and play games when you're supposed to be working?
I remember when Slashdot was a libertarian forum, not full of right-wing conservative nuts
News flash: on the scale of politics, libertarians are very far on the "right wing". That's ok.. keep contradicting yourself.. no one cares what you say anyway.
If you feel that strongly that the world needs anonymous, untraceable email, stop whining and do somthing about it. Set up a server, host it somewhere, and let people know where it is and how to use it. If you can figure out how to make it make enough money to cover expenses, more power to ya! Free services are great, if someone else is paying the bill. It's a different story when you're the one signing the checks. If you really believe this kind of service should be free for everyone, put your money where your mouth is and underwrite the venture, otherwise shut the F*** up.
Why is it that the proponents of "one nation under God" are so eager to get rid of "liberty and justice for all"?
Jesus cares.
,
faeryman
Why do we need anonymizing services (essentially hacks) when excellent substitutes are in the works? Projects like Freenet are providing new protocols which are specifically designed with anonymity in mind.
Megaproxy.com is another free service and one of the only ones I can find that runs behind https. Does anyone know of any other web based proxies that run behind https?
As far as I can see, so long as you're only browsing *legal* porn, there's nothing to worry about - you're not telling me the internet has *other* uses are you ;-)?
How am I going to look at porn while I'm at work now.
Orangatango provides a great method of surfing anonymously for extremely reasonable prices. I love their "MailBlox" email anonymizer.
Orangatango is based on a pretty cool idea: Rather than my computer negotiating a connection with every site I want to connect to, my computer negotiates a connection with Orangatango, and Orangatango does the rest. To the outside world, it looks as though Orangatango is making all of the requests. Maybe it's not a unique idea, but they have implemented it extremely well.
Yeah, I know that I have to give them my credit card and that makes my connection ultimately traceable through one means or another, but it's a far cry better than surfing directly through my ISP.
They have additional benefits other than just the anonymization as well. It really is "the web on your terms" as Orangatango claims. They're worth a look! Check them out.
Before you ask, I'll answer that no, I am not affiliated with Orangatango. The only reason that I know about them is that I applied for a development position at Orangatango a year ago. I've kept my eye on them (as well as my browser pointed at them) ever since.
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Anonymous Cowards here aren't, because their IP addresses are still subject to subpoena, and there's a 2 week long window where Slashdot stores the IP address as an MD5 hash, which can be easily defeated.
How can MD5 be "easily defeated"? I was under the impression that MD5 is a one-way algorithm, so that the original IP address couldn't be recovered from the logs.
When you pay for an Anonymizing Service, they know who you are. Other people may not be able to directly track you but the Anonymizing service can....which means all they have to do is tell the people that want to know. How much do you trust your paid Anonymizing service?
I think the biggest impact here will be on those in foreign, generally more oppresive countries.
Unlike the U.S. (yet), many countries have government mandated filtering of content.
It is a fact that many of SafeWeb's Triangleboy users were from China, Central Asia, the Middle East...
Wait...can there be a link? I'm only speculating, but the CIA was part investor in SafeWeb, and the CIA has now been accused of carrying covert bombing in Afghanistan using their SPY PLANES (and not telling the military about it....)
Too much that is possible at this point.
I suppose you whine that you can't call Bejing all day either!
Just because they put a 900mhz PC on your desk, your office shares a T3, and you've got nothing better to do, doesn't mean you can snerf all day.
Just do a search on google for 'proxy server'. I use one all the time mainly because it speeds my web browsing up. Being anonymous is a side benefit.
How does this relate to the question at hand about avoiding the corporate filtering of websites?
If people were meant to go around nude, they would be born that way!
Blackcode, at www.blackcode.com, still has an anonymizer, along with a number of other t00lz. I'm not sure what good an anonymizer is if you're using an ISP, however, since they can still log your http-requests. .'.
Good god, if you want to surf for pr0n, do it at home. What is so hard about that? While at work, you should be doing your job and not spending your whole time surfing the internet. I know this isn't a popular opinion, but chances are that your employer has hired you to do something other than surf. This isn't the man trying to smack you down afterall :-)
Life costs money. It ain't free. Bandwidth costs money, as do computers, support people and lawyers. If you have no income you cannot maintain a service, no matter how 'popular' it is. If something is useful to you, then you ought to be willing to support it monitarily. Otherwise it is going to go away.
TANSTAAFL
Remember Lexington Green!
are there any free services left for those suffering from corporate oppression?"
What a pile of crap! I understand invasion of privacy, but you are just paranoid!
Big brother is watching you, the illuminati can hear you through copper wires! If you are that paranoid, my friend, the best thing for you to do is move to siberia and become a hermit.
Quite frankly, no one is watching, and if they are (we're talking millions of transactions a second. Something no one would do for under $80k/year), you probably don't do anything that would attract their attention. Quit freaking out!
Good quote, too many chars. Seriously, the slashdot 120 char limit sucks!
Rest in peace, free anonymous services. We'll bury you in a shallow grave right next to the free long distance calling services and the free mailing list services.
* The dryup in advertising revenue. A lot of these site's revenue was from the banners they add in on the webpages you viewed using them. The global slowdown has cut all advertising budgets, so they lose out.
* As someone pointed out, the nature of anonymizing sites is that they dont advertise much themselves, so no mass audience.
* A lot of these sites were used in schools and libraries who blocked certain URLS. People used the anonymizers to get round the blocks. However, the sysadmins got wise to this and blocked the major anonymous web services. So much of the key audience is cut out.
It's a pity, though. Next time I want to ogle at goatpr0n at the public library, my trusty safeWeb will be gone.
These people look deep within my soul and assign me a number based on the order in which I joined. -- Homer Simpson
For some people it's not always safe to appear on a traceable system. Whistle blowers could loose their jobs, or in some cicles life and limb. People don't just use these services for porn you know (though that may be the primary use) D
This article from the register points up that there is much more to being anonymous than using an anonymizer. It's really a change in web lifestyle and a move back from credit to cash along with judicious use of third-party proxies and cutting off alot of convenience features in your browser. Even then, you have just made people go through a few more layers of indirection to get to you. This might insulate you (for a time) from annoying marketers, but it will not insulate you from the federal government.
ever Anonymous?
That is a joke i keep seeing.
But over here little ma bells say they cannot trace phone calls, but the like to joke, as i know how their switch gear works.
Anyway food for thought i guess.
You can still navigate the web through a proxy at http://www.a4u.net. I use this service quite often and it works well for me.
I think you meant to say "liberal", not "libertarian".
Any ideas on whether such a thing would possible?
Where a request is made, it is then masked by being encrypted and distributed around the network for anonymity and then the bit I'm not sure on, it then travels back to the requesting node without other nodes knowing the address of the requester (or if nessicary with a minimal amount of nodes knowing).
Possibly kind of similar to the way that freenet works. I think if such a system could be implimented it would a lot better security than a central proxy service like safeweb or similar
seems to work sometimes. I prefered safeweb but there u go
Dru
hushmail operates out of Ireland, where there is strong legal protection for private use of encryption (i.e., the security services cannot request the keys or demand that an encrypted communication be decrypted). Not an anonymizer service (unless they offer one, haven't been to their site in ages), but still, it offers some privacy.
I developed an anonymous surfing service and it has been running for 3 months now. Most of my users are from Saudi Arabia, China and the United Arab Emirates and 99% of the bandwidth goes to porn. This is why the free services tend to disappear over time.
The company I developed this for is using it to create a name for its other fee-based products (secure storage and a public key exchange for encrypted email). There will always be free services as long as companies need to create a presence online.
I just wanted to add my two cents and am not trying to advertising for my service. Therefore I have not provided a link to the service.
Gee, I wonder why all these companies are failing... Lets look at their business model, shall we?
Step 1. Provide a cool, useful service for free.
Step 2. ???
Step 3. Profit.
There are lots of invalid IP addresses and private IP addresses that can't transit the Internet.
Go to the JAP page and see what they can do. They have a Java based proxy and are focusing on security over performance.
What I'm trying to accomplish: we have a VPN solution that will let users access our intranet pages, but they must use a different DNS name (one that is resolvable on the Internet) than what is used internally. Yes, this is stupid, but it's the way it is. The problem arises when they click a link on one intranet site that would bump them to another intranet site (inter-site link). The DNS name in that link will only work inside the firewall, as they can't resolve the internal name. Now, I was thinking if I could put an anonymizer-style proxy server inside the firewall, all of my users could connect to that, and the proxy server would have no problems connecting to the internal DNS names as it actually resides inside the firewall. I don't care at all about the service being anonymous, I just want a true proxy.
Problems: I have looked at a lot of solutions, but most are either very expensive (licensing software from anonymizer.com, etc), or simply not good enough (cgi-proxy vomits on a lot of client-side Javascript). Most solutions are for *nix, which I'm not opposed to, but my team doesn't really have strong skills in that arena.
Does anyone know of an inexpensive ( less than $1,000) proxy solution that works flawlessly (forms, Basic Authentication, SSL, Client-side Javascript) that ideally runs on Win2k? On any OS?
Kind thoughts do not change the world
If you like anonymous surfing, you should be
part of an ring of proxies.
There's AT&T crowds, (source is usually available from zedz.net, but you need to have a lot of friends to get this going), or a JAP proxy
( http://anon.inf.tu-dresden.de/others/jap_en.html works great, but latency is rough to the US & th mix server isn't quite done.)
Or you could boot a proxyfloppy instead of your normal OS:
http://www.nameless.cultists.net
Or run a CGI proxy :
( http://www.jmarshall.com/tools/cgiproxy/ )
If you want there to be free proxies, you better be running one.
Gimme a friggn break! I bet you want all software to be free too, huh?
Anonymizer.com costs $49.96 for a year. That's $4.16 per month. Then there's anonymisers.com that costs $25 per year, half that of anonymizer.com! And you're all bent out of shape about there being no more TOTALLY free proxy services? You weren't breast fed were you?
Look, it's a service. The internet can't be all free. (That goes for software too) Anyway, you use a credit card, right? So you pay interest. Well that's the fee you pay to use that service. Get used to it. It's costs money to host a web site, especially if it attracts a lot of bandwidth usage. Well, who's going to pay the bills? You are, that's who!
Yeah, I remember the good old days of the eWildWest.com.net.org when WE ruled the net. I remember Tymenet, BITNET and X.25 and how fun it was to explore this big crazy whirlygig. But our eBaby.com is all grown up now... and so we should grow up with it. Change is bound to happen. And change means more opportunities. [hint, hint]
All you slashdolts talk so liberal... about free software and Microsoft did this bad thing, and the govt wants to initiate online body cavity searches and waaaaa! But in reality you sound more like a bunch of old white plantation owners that can't believe they just lost the war.
Flame on.
Mk.
I'm surprised no one's mentioned this, since I've ben doingit forever. Anyone with broadband (cable/dsl) has a fast enough connection to simple SSH to their house, and forward ports over the conneciton. Thus, I have my web browser proxy set to 127.0.0.1:8000, whihc is forwarded to my home PC proxy over the SSH connection.
Just be glad you don't live in the UK. Our fantastically caring government managed to sneak the R.I.P. Act onto the statute books last year, which basically gives security agencies (Police, MI5, MI6 etc.) the power to force you to hand over any encryption keys for anything on your computer, be that for email or anything else. Don't want to play? Well take two years in jail then. Marvellous.
Who is suffering from, and what is corporate oppression? I'm really curious, having never encountered anything I'd put in these terms.
Scott
What would be a neat trick is turning Freenet into a Walled City.. in addition to an anonymous, distributed, redundant file-system, add mutually anonymous chatting, emailing, web-surfing, "direct" file-sends, payment systems... all double-blind and encrypted from the host nodes, sort of like ZeroKnowledge's Freedom system.
"Concept provided. A full proof is left as an exercise to the reader."
I assume that ONLY corporate oppression is bad, but any other oppression is good, or at least OK? How about just, "OPPRESSION". Oh, wait, then that would not be trolling.
Mail money order to them in an envelope.
Don't put a return address on the envelope.
Fight Spammers!
Though you have a point as to the anonymity of the post office, nobody ever remembers someone dropping off a letter in a big city. I guess an easy way to get a similar affect with a credit card is to register at a library or other public place with a lot of people milling about.
If god had intended you to be naked, you would have been born that way.
considering how socialist that area is. It is good that they see the light in the privacy arena
Government regulation is not the answer. Look at all the recent nasty things: email viruses, DDoS attacks, and a bunch of untracable script kiddies sitting in their basements making spelling mistakes. You say someone should go after all these people and get them? This would mean great privacy violations. What if I make a web page with instructions for a pipe bomb, or promoting the use of drugs? These are just free speech, but it is unlikely that everyone in, say, the FBI would share this opinion.
Regulation gives people who make insecure products like IIS and Outlook something to hide behind, rather than being out in the open and having to shape up or fail. Remember when MS tried to blame the messenger of security bugs? They can simply say, "We need more rules!". Ugh.
Anyone know of any FAQ's that would help me setup a "safeweb" like service? Basically, we're monitored to all hell at work and I've got broadband at home. Https from work to home would be great but I've no idea how to set it up,what packages I'd need or the settings. Thanks for any help!
.. RH 7.2 @ home Windows @ work
Btw
If on the other hand, the poster (and you) are of the type that stealthily and carefully word remarks as so to be able to say, "No, thats not what I meant" and basically are a BULLSHIT ARTIST, then that is an issue you should be looking into before you ever worry about other issues such as this one.
So, since to you it is "corporate filtering of websites" taken from a question of anonymous and private web access, then I must ask you... If the government did this, would you mind? Well, guess what, they DO! Get off the nader anti-corporate bandwagon that only slanders and slams one particular tentacle of the beast and join with those logical and rational folks that aim for the head.
Or perhaps you are more comfortable with bitching and moaning from your armchair, nestled safely in your rhetoric instead of taking real action... well, that would indeed explain your reaction to the post about "quit bitching and do something".
Rhetoric, meet Reality!
Reality: "Hi Rhetoric, I've heard so much about you!"
Rhetoric: [nervous] "Uhhh, I don't see anyone... I gotta run now"
If you feel that strongly that the world needs anonymous, untraceable email, stop whining and do somthing about it.
Sorry, but if you really feel strongly about this issue, you're a day late and a dollar short. You should've gotten off your lazy asses and stood up and done something about two or three years ago. It's too late now.
Ah yes, I remember an enjoyable evening using anonymizer. Then a few days later I had the chance to look through our server logs and there it was:
...
www.anonymizer.com?url=barely18.com
www.anonymizer.com?url=teenvixens.com
Read the "Information about the cost" at JAP's website:
http://anon.inf.tu-dresden.de/kosten_en.html
I used to work at SGI. They instituted a blocking proxy to stop all the evil pr0n surfing. It started hindering access to good sites...and the spit hit the fan when we could not download a linux kernel through this...
Turns out some bad work just happened to be in the binary of the tar ball of one of the particular revs of the kernel. Escalated to a V.P. and suddenly, the blocker was turned off. Basically, he said that after many complaints, if workers could show that it hurting them from doing their job, he would make I.T. take it down.
Gotta love that "smart" blocking software.
Given the lengths to which a very few people will go to ruin something for everyone else, I'm not surprised several free services aren't fighting to keep their non-paying customers.
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I once worked for a computer company in Dallas that all of a sudden one day decided to become Anti Second Amendment and asked all it's employees to sign a contract that they will not own handguns and will get rid of any they already own as a condition of continued employment. Can you believe the gall of this? I found another job before the week was out that paid over ten grand a year more salary and after handing my boss me letter of resignation, told him to kiss my hiney, called him a communist and told him I was going to turn the company in to the BSA for all the hundreds of copied of unlicensed software they were running throughout the company. Never did call the BSA, but it sure felt good to make him sweat anyway. Last I heard that company had recently filed bankruptcy and their stock was worth less than one penny per share. They used to have nearly 2000 employees back in their heyday. Karma and justice go hand-in-hand, eh?
They're not quite the same thing, but disposable email addresses can be used "anonymously" -- and you can throw them out when you're done with them.
--Tom
Tom Geller
how is not being able to go to a non-work related site, while getting paid.....opression?
AntiProxy.Com. Hmm ... A rather confusing concept. An anonymous www page surfing service that provides public access to its server-logs so you an see who has been using it. Doesn't that go against the point of using it?
Web Server Statistics for AntiProxy.
1 /use a free dialup and ensure u disable caller ID.
2 / then connect 2 a proxy (somewhere where english ain't their first language is good).
perl -MIO::Socket -e 'IO::Socket::INET-new(PeerAddr="some.windoze.box:1
is how long until anonimization is available as a p2p service? if the users are providing the resources themselves, with a nice freenet style mix-n-match game of "whose data is this?," then they'd be good to go.
when you have a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
"However, SilentSurf.com features its own banner ads at the very top and bottom of every page. You should be aware that SilentSurf.com does not serve or control those banners, which are served by independent Internet advertising firms. Those firms may send cookies to your browser, track your IP address, or attempt to capture or control other information about your browser or web surfing session. At present, SilentSurf.com utilizes the services of Internet advertising firms Flycast, Burst, AdAuction, and LinkExchange to serve banners"
So basically there is absolutely no privacy with this service. And their advertisers can "capture or control any information about your web surfing session".
Yea great service. Please mod the parent down.
It's not that black and white, I'm afraid.
As a contractor, I often work at a client site, and often those sites have what I consider to be some excessive filtering/blocking rules. For example, at my current client, all web-based email accounts are blocked-- and contractors are not, as a general rule, given email accounts on the client's corporate domain.
Now, awareness of the dangers of email attachments is commendable, but I should also note that this same client standardizes on MS Outlook as an email client, and as such has twice been taken out by Nimda-- in spite of the blocking of services like Yahoo mail and Hotmail.
So, by using a proxy like Safeweb, am I subverting the client's security policies? Perhaps. But by blocking my email access somewhat arbitrarily, are they hindering my effectiveness as an outide contractor? Absolutely.
Who's right? Depends on who you ask. But, I believe that all concerned parties sometimes have motivations that are at least a little bit more complex than surfing porn on company time.
The question stands ...
Karma? Karma? I don't need no stinkin' karma.
...cock!
I have a webpage at http://www.mcarterbrown.com where I set up my own proxy that will strip cookies, java, javascript, etc. and allow anonymous surfing. I use it, when I don't want to see annoying pop-up ads that every website under the sun are now using. Drop me a line and I'll zip you the code.
www.slightlycrewed.com - Because aren't we all?
maybe they could change their name.
Mouse to Moose.
Hey! wait a minute!
Have you read the moderator guidelines? Well, have you, PUNK? (and I want a Karma: Gnarly option)
The new USPS regulations prohibit the delivery of mail without a return address.
It's easier to just throw your money into a lake.
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Let me give you the lowdown
Why not check out http://www.cotse.com/
$5.95/mth (basically free) anonymizer service etc... very cool site with mucho Unix resources.
I don't understand the problem. If you can read Slashdot then you should be smart enough to set up a Linux box at home, run socks5 on it and use that as your own anonymizer... When work started closing ports I just started running those services at home on ports 80, and 21 the two ports still open to me. It was easy to set up and it gets the job done, and I learned a few new things. Just a thought
Elbereth Gilthoniel!
Why must every time someone says anything pro-Christian or pro-religion they get modded down?
"Flamebait"? Nothing up there is flamebait as far as I can tell. It seems to be a good argument, one that one could disagree with, but not "flamebait". But someone moderated it as such, and I suspect it is due to anti-religious bias.
There is more to the world than technology, folks.
(P.S. I suspect this one likely will get modded down also. Just remember, there is always metamod.)
Just because it CAN be done, doesn't mean it should!
Do you really think it was just the business model of making money, or was it also the fact they probably had to spend tons of money with lawyers, etc. when there was a problem with someone using their system for something wrong.
I can imagine that not everyone was being anonymous just because they didn't want spam, but also cracking websites.....
So how much flack did places like this get? That's something I would like to know.
I had freedom found at www.freedom.net and I thouroughly enjoyed their services and anti-spam and anti-cookie features. Now with an exploit in the browsers where your cookies can be read by a third party, the idea of having a cookie keeper and anonymous surfing was looking better. I hardly used the service, but they also shut down on Nov. 11th.... Well only the anonymous surfing part. They're keeping everything else, so this makes me want to believe that the shutting down of this services was not due to money, but due to lawyer problems and head aches caused by anonymous surfing. I mean really, how much does it really cost to keep a server up... ( I know it can be a lot but these people are charging $50.00 a year each.... )
Just a thought....
www.slightlycrewed.com - Because aren't we all?
Who's right? Depends on who you ask. But, I believe that all concerned parties sometimes have motivations that are at least a little bit more complex than surfing porn on company time
Your client is right. Since you're surfing on their line and they're paying for it, they can make the rules. If you need access to the Internet for Hotmail or Yahoo, you should subscribe to an ISP and use your wireless phone for access.
Internet acess is a priviledge, not a right at my company. Consultants are probably last on the list in terms of providing access to the Internet considering we don't have much recourse if one of the consultant-bots brings malicious code into our network.
Real hackers don't need any anonymizer...
I guess without these types of services people will have to learn how to protect themselves on the web. Besides how long do you think many of these services can stay free on the web? I'm kinds supprised /. has not talked about charging to post yet....
Only 'flamers' flame!
Though you have a point as to the anonymity of the post office, nobody ever remembers someone dropping off a letter in a big city.
you're wrong, they don't have to remember them because the u.s. post office has cameras inside. remember the girl in Austin, TX who mailed a package to the Gore camp of the Bush strategic campaign materials? they caught her on film.
I'm good with numbers -
Heh, I guess that explains why some of the checks I've sent took a while to cash.
Um so what's the point if they are not checking the return address against your picture ID?
My mail is still getting delivered so maybe this only applies in some places or only with packages?
moderators should not be anonymouse (or anonmoose) and unaccountable for their moderation?
:)
/.'ers takes some brass ones.
Most insightful sig I've ever read. Ironically it showed up about 2 weeks after a rant I had on the very subject. Brevity, I like that.
And, NO, this is not blatant flamebait...I'm much more subtle than that.
Oh, and as a rule when I have mod points from time to time; anything you read that makes you angry...reread it twice. Because flamebait will make you even angrier and sarcasm and biting satire will elude you the first time around and maybe the second.
Waandering back on topic:
Is anyone really suprised? I'm too lazy to look for it but there was an interview here or on macslash.com about a person that ran a anon service and the legal "hammering" they got was just astounding. The man stood his ground reguardless of the solid or shaky foundation he was on.
His reliance was on donations, and untraceable donations at that. Very interesting and I have not heard of this place going out of business mainly because of the "principal" of it all.
Now, that, my fellow
As a business, I don't see how they can stand up for someone when "business ethics" is all too often a contradiction in terms.
Something to ponder, I suppose.
Have you read the moderator guidelines? Well, have you, PUNK? (and I want a Karma: Gnarly option)
What kind of "smart" software was that? All the ones I've worked with all you to add exemptions based on URLs or string matches. Just unblock that site. No big deal and you can still keep the workers from surfing porn.
So if all it means is that some rich Arabs can get easy access to porn, so what. It might just mean that someone from a religiously repressive and sexually repressed society learns that if you look at porn, it doesn't make you blind, it doesn't turn you into a rapist, and if your spouse/SO shares your tastes, it could even enhance your sex life. And the 5% of the time they were reading news sites might just give them a wider view of the world. All of which might make their country, eventually, more tolerant. So you can whine all you want, but sometimes the inability to surf porn is the man smacking people down, and sometimes the ability to surf porn is a sign that freedom exists, regardless of whether exercising that freedom at any given time is wise or tasteful.
Expanding a vast wasteland since 1996.
are there any free services left for those suffering from corporate oppression?"
Let's put things in perspective. The women forced to wear bhurkas in Afghanistan are oppressed. The dissidents in the Gulag were oppressed. The Jews in the ghetto were oppressed. The African-americans forced into slavery two centuries ago were oppressed. You are not oppressed merely because you don't get automatic anonymity when you choose to disclose your public information to a corporation.
A Government Is a Body of People, Usually Notably Ungoverned
Safeweb performed a nice service, but it was hardly free. Safeweb was a major "cookie spammer". Anyone who visitied Safeweb got an enormous amount of cookies, all leading to the loss of privacy that Safeweb was allegedly protecting!
Months ago, when load started crashing Safeweb regularly, I wrote to ask them if they were still interested in continuing to operate, and I offered to buy their business model for a dollar.
Telling event: They wrote back declining the offer.
That's when I knew they were doomed.
--Blair
A T1, or just about any other dedicated line, costs the same amount of money whether you use it for news, files, or tits. If you use it for nothing, it costs the same as if you use it for beaver.
So no, it doesn't cost them anything additional -- unless they use frame relay, or have some hopelessly overloaded connection already, and AnalAngels is adding to a major bottleneck.
God forbid your company treat consultants with any repect and favour.
www.safeproxy.org - Guranteed!!
-- http://www.safeproxy.org - Free Anonymous Web Surfing
How about a word from one of the "Web Nazis."
I'm one of the lucky few that manages one of these oppressive machines, and well, unfortunately we need them.
I hear a lot of whining about folks not being able to surf what they want. When we check our logs, we see that they are trying to get to p0rn, ESPN.com or spend company time looking for other jobs. We have had several sexual harrasment suits as a result of people being caught surfing p0rn, and no company wants to deal with that mess. Yes, I agree sometimes it does get in the way, but it's not that hard to open up sites as required.
After all you're at work to do that, work. Sure surfing makes lunch a little more enjoyable, but deal with it. This is an HR issue, take it up with them if you have a problem.
...ssh & lynx
-Frank
Who says you have to drop something off inside the post office? The big blue mailbins that are on just about every street corner are much more anonymous. I guess I should have made my point clear as to where to drop off the mail.
If god had intended you to be naked, you would have been born that way.
When I worked for the Attorney General's office, we used to investigate online fraud and would routinely use anonymizer.com and other services in order to view suspect web pages without *.gov showing up in their logs. If they see a few of those hits they quickly pack up, move to a new state, and buy a new domain.
anyone tried http://www.blackcode.com ?
seems pretty good, just has trouble fetching large files through FTP
Software Freedom Day!.
What I'll miss about Safeweb is the way it sanitized Javascript rather than just magic it away. Megaproxy claims it will be able to provide this at some point, but currently, no one does.
This is in no way meant to beat down on people using anonymizers but..
why would you want to use an anonymizer in a free country?
Im using a proxy which hides my ip and I dont accept all cookies. That way I atleast hope im abit safer from companies trying to figure out my surfing habits - what else should I be concerned of? Should i be concerned? I mean its not like anyone would have a stranglehold on me by knowing I read slashdot and use the web to get new Linux software etc.. or?
There is a Shell provider TheShell.com That offers a fully anonymous account. All one needs to do is send a payment (cash/money order) and the account is setup without any logging. They are really expensive but you can run any programs you want without intrusion. Even personal http proxy servers. It is a good solution.
Uh, because it's easier to hide it from the boss than from the wife?
If all this should have a reason, we would be the last to know.
As far as I know, nym.alias.net, run by an MIT LCS research group, is still up and running, and has been since June of 1996.
The United States Government wants us to burn our books...
Perhaps those of us in supposedly "free" countries need anonymizing services now more than ever!
Reason is the Path to God - Anon
on the scale of politics, libertarians are very far on the "right wing"
Wrong. Economically, libertarians are right-wing, but socially, they're left-wing. Libertarians place themselves on the top wing, the other wings being left (liberal), right (conservative), and bottom (authoritarian). Where do you fall?
Will I retire or break 10K?
Emailias has a free trial membership (which will come in nicely this online holiday shopping season), plus:
-Nice and clean with no banner ads or pr0n ads.
-Automatically remembers who you're giving the "emailias" to.
-Remembers & reminds me if I revisit the site.
-Easy to delete the emailias (optional header added to email).
-Handles multiple real (my) addresses.
-Many advanced extras.
Too easy to use...I'm hooked!
I dont't think most people bother.
... but our test results were obtained by sniffing the LAN, often for long hours, even over night. Apparently, after some time the cache turned up in obscure 'open proxy lists'. And people started using it, for don't ask me what - from the logs I've seen, mostly japanese porn. And I 've had a few gigabytes of tcpdump trace data, with all these http requests in it; probably including all those porn passwords and whatnot.
A few months ago i had a test machine from a major web cache vendor sitting in a test network. (the machine was just part of the environment, not the item tested). Well, it turned out we left the proxy port open to the world. No big deal, really
The funny thing is - the proxy had 'test system' spelled all across its DNS name, so people should have known better. Apparently noone bothered.
Essentially, people don't care.
f.
useful info
As for Safeweb, it's not "gone." If you're not willing to pay for the service then it clearly wasn't worth anything to you, so why are you all lamenting? If they are charging unreasonable prices then that's another story. But all you whiners make me sick.
If you pay for the service, you need a way to pay and they need an address to bill, hence you are not anonymous and the entire purpose of the service is defeated. (I know, they have the IP address you're coming from anyway, but if you're daisy chaining (going through proxies to other proxies) that won't help them unless they can get the cooperation of the owners of the proxies between you and them.)
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Ever notice how fast Windows runs? Neither did I...
Why not make your own?
People here should check out the free CGI Proxy Script and upload it to your own server. (Wow, that sounds like spam, but no... I only recommend it because it's cool)
True it's still not free, but when you figure-in hosting will also bring email and all sorts of other goodies, it might be worth your while instead of always shelling out for all the anonymizing services, file storage, email, and whatever.
Just a thought.
Hey, even terrorists want their email.
You "contractors" are scum anyway. Make other arrangements.
These days, there's only one really, really big chicken stall.
Chris
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We're trollin' for Jesus!
OH,
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I had never heard of Brittney Cleary before, so I did a Google search on her to figure out just who the hell she is.
I found this.
Sad, eh?
Now we have the Soviet Union. Well, they 'fell' (even though an astute observer would notice that the same old power block is getting their power back) but it would seem that their movement has made excellent strides in this country. In fact, you will notice that the amount of socialism and its associated restrictions of freedoms, liberties and dignity (along with the incompetance, unaccountability, corruption and inefficiency) have increased dramatically since the Cold War 'ended'. I have many other examples each with important impact on the world and society... however I too learn, and I know better than to think you people care. You would rather lounge around and play games, whack off to pictures of naked girls and bitch about the establishment (even though you ARE the very establishment through your support of it). I could tell you about the importance of vigilance, the necessity of action over rhetoric, the beauty of integrity, consistency and self policing... but you would rather ignore all the important world and life impacting issues and only focus on entertainment and other shallow pursuits. Then you will, instead of through action, employ a superficial shield of rhetoric that you boast and brag about, fueling it with your 'angst' and hypocritical intollerance. You will refuse to employ logic and reason, refuse to judge yourself first and foremost before you judge others (and that means by the SAME standard), and you will let yourself be told what to think, like, wear, eat, say, etc... yet ironically use those canned and parroted snippets of hate to attack others for the VERY SAME REASONS that you yourselves employ.
Enjoy your existence! Some of you will make a positive impact on life... others will degrade themselves to lackies of tyrants and theories, ever hiding from reality and responsibility.
Blackcode ( http://www.blackcode.com )is still running theirs too... It's not as good, but it still strips cookies, popups, and masks os/user data. You have to create an account, but it dosent do any validation aside from an email address and they will give you webmail also... (And they've got a couple of decent tools on there too...)
Yep, that's right, some of us work at companies where we can't even do a PING, and even https goes through the company proxy/filter.
Bob-
The Ludwig von Mises Institute. The reasoning individuals economics
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Yawn. You're a very stupid person.
Anonymous mail who cares, thats easy, just use a stamp. It's surfing and all the ad hungry money grubbin leeches we dislike. Internet is becoming MTV only 'the owners' are knowin which latest pop, no pubed chick we're lookin' at. All guys right? he he.
Cheers
Topic... anon surfing dudes. Wise up.
Guess I'll have to find another way...
*Aqua Seafoam* "Whenever people agree with me I feel I must be wrong" -Oscar Wilde
good lord what crap, i didnt think it was real at first
i always said reality is much stranger then fiction
This is only valid if ssh is allowed from the site your trying to escape.
Then set up an SSH server listening on port 443 on the machine you want to send to, and tunnel through your proxy as if you were doing an SSL connection. Works fine for me, though YMMV depending on the fascistness of your sysadmin. Ugly source code here for anyone interested.
try www.megaproxy.com
what spammers use:
-open mail relays. For http this would be things like proxy's (~=safeweb)
-throwaway accounts. You can use them as well. Note that that is not truly anonymous, they can stil track where you are coming from (ip+time+callerid)
the reg had nice acticle about this a short while ago. "Do-it-yourself Internet anonymity". they have a article about safeweb as well.
A database of every IP address and its MD5 would easily fit in a few gigabytes, and take no more than a few seconds to search.
It is simpler because a SOCKS server dynamically forwards whichever ports it needs to, based on the protocol. Any SOCKSified client can connect to ssh on the local listening port, and the remote part (sshd) will forward the request to the appropriate remote port.
The new USPS regulations prohibit the delivery of mail without a return address.
What the hell are you talking about? I rarely put a return address on anything. Mailed a bunch of stuff out just the other day without return addresses and all got to their destinations just fine. I've yet to see anything about return addresses being required. Without some sort of proof, I've got to say, you've been misinformed...
-Ryan, with the unoriginal sig