Very interesting. Good analysis. That's way below what I had 5 years ago and I owned the cheapest laptop of my life then but your argument is reasonable.
Microsoft USA has control and access over the data. Microsoft Ireland performs local contract services and acts as regional channel including contract wrapping for Microsoft USA.
At some point when you realize that libertarians don't know everything an begin to look at how societies regulate their production holistically it will make more sense.
The iPhone 6 isn't close to what you had on a 5 year laptop. 5 years ago: 4g ram, 256g HD, somewhere on the order of 10x the video speeds was standard in a PoS laptop.
Illegal for whom? If the server is connect to other servers abroad and the people abroad are the ones handing it over then no law in that country has been broken by the global cloud provider. The law might have been said to be broken when it was uploaded to the global cloud provider since that was when it was "handed over". So essentially that law would mandate regional or national clouds for whatever data you wanted to protect. Which isn't a bad thing. Except that everyone wants global information services.
A not bad outcome would be that Europeans use European only clouds for their private data and have their own services.
We already have those protections in the Constitution: The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
This is about situations where a warrant was issued based on probable cause.
We are experimenting in a limited way with marijuana legalization. We'll see how it goes.
simplify the tax code
Harder said then done. The USA doesn't like lots of government direct investment in the economy so all sorts of adjustments have to occur via. taxes. When designing a tax code pick any 2: simple, meet societal objectives (fair), avoids widespread crony capitalism (honest).
I think it's fair to say the corporations are at least as worried about losing share in foreign markets, as with the preservation of our personal freedoms. That said, we are mired in a controversy where corporations and citizens find their collective best interest on the same side.
Once it becomes USA government vs. EU Microsoft et al. doesn't have the same crazy situation that could exist if a USA warrant makes it a felony for Microsoft to not hand over data while EU privacy protections make it a crime to hand over that data. So I don't think everyone is on the same side. I think the corporations just want to be out of the middle of this spat between the USA and EU regarding conflicting laws.
Sure they would rather not lose marketshare to EU only providers. But EU only providers remember have no constitutional protections they are subject to having the CIA, NSA... collect whatever they want however they want without any warrants.
Under the current law your friends account in Albania is subject to US warrant regardless of what you do because Google operates in the USA. The new law means there has to be some US citizen or corp using the data for Google to be subject to the warrant. It is a slight tightening.
Would a customer, then, be more likely to buy a service from a Non-US service provider, as the privacy laws in the US are so porous?
Yes. If you want to violate USA law you should be using non-US providers to do it.
They have not as of yet implemented anything. I'm going to assume Microsoft's council is knowledgeable on this and they don't see the problem the European/.ers keep pointing to.
Best case scenario would be a treaty with something like an Interpol web-service so a Maryland DA could go to a Maryland court show reasonable cause and have an order enforced in Spain. That takes the executive and the legislative branch working with foreign countries.
Worst case scenario would be a patchwork of laws with each countries having their own system and data moving freely between them, a race to the bottom. Which is pretty close to what most of the European/.ers and Microsoft wants.
A non-stable but not terrible situation would be US law being enforced de-facto against the wishes of people in foreign countries and their governments, i.e. the current administration's policy.
So I think what's good is this starts moving us towards the negotiations that need to take place. Europeans don't want murder for hire rings or human trafficking setting up in their countries either; they just have a legal framework designed to facilitate it because of privacy concerns. So I really do believe a good compromise is possible.
Well certainly anything that moves this from precedent and complexities of corporations winging it to black letter law would be a net gain. The role of search warrants and how to handle international issues should be between the USA government and the EU. Tech companies should just be following the law. I think everyone agrees the stored communication act (1986) needs updating
Now a few points:
Europeans keep citing European laws Microsoft's council has not been able to show that there was any Irish law in conflict with the previous warrants: Second, while many media reports have claimed that the decision was contrary to foreign privacy laws protecting the requested emails, it was clear from the transcript that Microsoft never raised such a conflict of law. (“Microsoft . . . has not been able to point to any specific provision of Irish law that in any way forbids it from handing the data over.”) Some commentators claimed that the data must be subject to foreign privacy protections because Ireland is part of the European Union, and thus the data must be subject to the European Data Protection Directive. However, what they failed to appreciate is that the European Data Protection Directive, by itself, is not legally binding. It needs to be ratified as national law by each member state. As a result, there are variations across the member states as to what is allowed and what is prohibited. Accordingly, the impact of an actual conflict of law on future warrants remains undecided.
Moreover the issue was always that USA people had control of the data: because Microsoft could access and retrieve the requested documents from a terminal within the United States, even though the actual search and retrieval would occur abroad, the data was still under Microsoft’s control in the United States, and thus properly subject to the SCA warrant.
That's not true regarding frightening. The ones who get frightened can't find and don't use the advanced tab. There are two problems though with those tabs:
a) People tend to over estimate their level of knowledge and turn on these features too early. This can be avoided by making the advanced menus more intimidating (for example using technical terms). b) Different user bases demand opposite goals. The contention can be quite hard to deal with and often the application either disadvantages one of the groups or effectively forks into multiple applications. In which case why not just have multiple applications?
More like 15 but yes. KDE aimed at being the first Linux GUI. Gnome is/was always more aggressive in being a GUI for end user rather than workstation computing.
It is a bit worse than that. k = 1.38x 10^(-16) erg/K you are using 10^32 too much energy due to a sign flip. OTOH I'll grant K = 290 rather than 3.2K since I'd assume the computer was on earth not in deep space.
There is also one more complication in that calculation, cooling. This isn't going to matter if you are running the computation fast. But once we get to about 1000 years it throws your numbers way off. We throw off 3.9 x 10^24 J of heat from the sun per year at the current temperature. We'd be throwing off heat much faster with an atmosphere containing the oceans. So it isn't a situation where we throw off more heat essentially linearly as the temperature rises. As a back of the envelope calculation earth's energy loss goes up by 50% per 10C i.e. the hotter it is the thicker the atmosphere (due to water) the more heat loss. I have no idea what happens with an atmosphere with a huge chunk of the ocean in but, but just extrapolating to raise the surface temperature to 100C I'm thinking you are losing around 5 x 10^25 J / year due to cooling.
So I'm thinking your quip works for 256 bits if the computation occurs in reasonable time (say a years, decade, a few centuries) but if you let it go slower....
Counting through all possible values of a 128-bit number would use enough energy to raise the oceans to 100 decrees Celsius and then convert all of the water to steam.
I don't follow. There are about 2.5E46 molecules of water in the ocean. 2^128 ~ 3.4*10^38. Seems like you would need a lot more energy than just counting to 2^128.
Factorization for sure. Apparently discrete logs as well according to a quick Wikipedia check
It is essentially the same problem. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S... Given a quantum computer the problem is solvable in n^3 time but we don't have a quantum computer so that algorithm sucks on the computers we do have.
People who buy $12 jeans aren't going to buy $150 jeans. What happens every time a Walmart opens within 10 miles of fancy boutiques?
And the answer to your question is nothing. $150k in household income is the cutoff for the top 10%. That bracket represents 2.1% of Walmart customers. 60% of Walmart customers are in the bottom 50%. This is unusual because the bottom half spend much less time buying stuff than the top half. You still aren't anywhere near the bulk of $150 jeans consumers but no, Walmart has no impact. Target which is far short of a boutique has double the percentages in all the 100k+ and still 50% in $75-100k category.
And further the difference in living standard between Walmart customers and boutique customers is small than the spread between iPhone customers and the $150- smartphone customers on average.
Apple has lots of sharp corners once you want to go beyond basics. They would want the VM software to take over memory management. Honestly that's who you should be blaming. They weren't operating within Apple's system. Memory configuration isn't something that Apple wants end users doing. It is simple for the OS to handle it and they have great features for developers. For end users it is terrible.
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Because that was the point in question. Take it up with GP.
Very interesting. Good analysis. That's way below what I had 5 years ago and I owned the cheapest laptop of my life then but your argument is reasonable.
Actually more accurate is:
Microsoft USA has control and access over the data.
Microsoft Ireland performs local contract services and acts as regional channel including contract wrapping for Microsoft USA.
At some point when you realize that libertarians don't know everything an begin to look at how societies regulate their production holistically it will make more sense.
The iPhone 6 isn't close to what you had on a 5 year laptop. 5 years ago: 4g ram, 256g HD, somewhere on the order of 10x the video speeds was standard in a PoS laptop.
Illegal for whom? If the server is connect to other servers abroad and the people abroad are the ones handing it over then no law in that country has been broken by the global cloud provider. The law might have been said to be broken when it was uploaded to the global cloud provider since that was when it was "handed over". So essentially that law would mandate regional or national clouds for whatever data you wanted to protect. Which isn't a bad thing. Except that everyone wants global information services.
A not bad outcome would be that Europeans use European only clouds for their private data and have their own services.
We already have those protections in the Constitution: The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
This is about situations where a warrant was issued based on probable cause.
We are experimenting in a limited way with marijuana legalization. We'll see how it goes.
Harder said then done. The USA doesn't like lots of government direct investment in the economy so all sorts of adjustments have to occur via. taxes. When designing a tax code pick any 2: simple, meet societal objectives (fair), avoids widespread crony capitalism (honest).
Azure isn't foreign. The system, including the one in Ireland is run by a Washington state corporation. It is a fallacy that MOIL has total control.
Once it becomes USA government vs. EU Microsoft et al. doesn't have the same crazy situation that could exist if a USA warrant makes it a felony for Microsoft to not hand over data while EU privacy protections make it a crime to hand over that data. So I don't think everyone is on the same side. I think the corporations just want to be out of the middle of this spat between the USA and EU regarding conflicting laws.
Sure they would rather not lose marketshare to EU only providers. But EU only providers remember have no constitutional protections they are subject to having the CIA, NSA... collect whatever they want however they want without any warrants.
Under the current law your friends account in Albania is subject to US warrant regardless of what you do because Google operates in the USA. The new law means there has to be some US citizen or corp using the data for Google to be subject to the warrant. It is a slight tightening.
Yes. If you want to violate USA law you should be using non-US providers to do it.
They have not as of yet implemented anything. I'm going to assume Microsoft's council is knowledgeable on this and they don't see the problem the European /.ers keep pointing to.
That's not a comparable situation. The comparable situation would be something like the Russian government regulating Radius. And that is appropriate.
Best case scenario would be a treaty with something like an Interpol web-service so a Maryland DA could go to a Maryland court show reasonable cause and have an order enforced in Spain. That takes the executive and the legislative branch working with foreign countries.
Worst case scenario would be a patchwork of laws with each countries having their own system and data moving freely between them, a race to the bottom. Which is pretty close to what most of the European /.ers and Microsoft wants.
A non-stable but not terrible situation would be US law being enforced de-facto against the wishes of people in foreign countries and their governments, i.e. the current administration's policy.
So I think what's good is this starts moving us towards the negotiations that need to take place. Europeans don't want murder for hire rings or human trafficking setting up in their countries either; they just have a legal framework designed to facilitate it because of privacy concerns. So I really do believe a good compromise is possible.
Well certainly anything that moves this from precedent and complexities of corporations winging it to black letter law would be a net gain. The role of search warrants and how to handle international issues should be between the USA government and the EU. Tech companies should just be following the law. I think everyone agrees the stored communication act (1986) needs updating
Now a few points:
Europeans keep citing European laws Microsoft's council has not been able to show that there was any Irish law in conflict with the previous warrants: Second, while many media reports have claimed that the decision was contrary to foreign privacy laws protecting the requested emails, it was clear from the transcript that Microsoft never raised such a conflict of law. (“Microsoft . . . has not been able to point to any specific provision of Irish law that in any way forbids it from handing the data over.”) Some commentators claimed that the data must be subject to foreign privacy protections because Ireland is part of the European Union, and thus the data must be subject to the European Data Protection Directive. However, what they failed to appreciate is that the European Data Protection Directive, by itself, is not legally binding. It needs to be ratified as national law by each member state. As a result, there are variations across the member states as to what is allowed and what is prohibited. Accordingly, the impact of an actual conflict of law on future warrants remains undecided.
Moreover the issue was always that USA people had control of the data: because Microsoft could access and retrieve the requested documents from a terminal within the United States, even though the actual search and retrieval would occur abroad, the data was still under Microsoft’s control in the United States, and thus properly subject to the SCA warrant.
That's not true regarding frightening. The ones who get frightened can't find and don't use the advanced tab. There are two problems though with those tabs:
a) People tend to over estimate their level of knowledge and turn on these features too early. This can be avoided by making the advanced menus more intimidating (for example using technical terms).
b) Different user bases demand opposite goals. The contention can be quite hard to deal with and often the application either disadvantages one of the groups or effectively forks into multiple applications. In which case why not just have multiple applications?
More like 15 but yes. KDE aimed at being the first Linux GUI. Gnome is/was always more aggressive in being a GUI for end user rather than workstation computing.
You are right, you did include that in your 4.4e-23
Test: 10^-16 (10 carrot -16)
It is a bit worse than that. k = 1.38x 10^(-16) erg/K you are using 10^32 too much energy due to a sign flip. OTOH I'll grant K = 290 rather than 3.2K since I'd assume the computer was on earth not in deep space.
There is also one more complication in that calculation, cooling. This isn't going to matter if you are running the computation fast. But once we get to about 1000 years it throws your numbers way off. We throw off 3.9 x 10^24 J of heat from the sun per year at the current temperature. We'd be throwing off heat much faster with an atmosphere containing the oceans. So it isn't a situation where we throw off more heat essentially linearly as the temperature rises. As a back of the envelope calculation earth's energy loss goes up by 50% per 10C i.e. the hotter it is the thicker the atmosphere (due to water) the more heat loss. I have no idea what happens with an atmosphere with a huge chunk of the ocean in but, but just extrapolating to raise the surface temperature to 100C I'm thinking you are losing around 5 x 10^25 J / year due to cooling.
So I'm thinking your quip works for 256 bits if the computation occurs in reasonable time (say a years, decade, a few centuries) but if you let it go slower....
Interesting conversation.
I don't follow. There are about 2.5E46 molecules of water in the ocean. 2^128 ~ 3.4*10^38. Seems like you would need a lot more energy than just counting to 2^128.
It is essentially the same problem. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S...
Given a quantum computer the problem is solvable in n^3 time but we don't have a quantum computer so that algorithm sucks on the computers we do have.
I just gave you facts. You have facts, then present them.
And the answer to your question is nothing. $150k in household income is the cutoff for the top 10%. That bracket represents 2.1% of Walmart customers. 60% of Walmart customers are in the bottom 50%. This is unusual because the bottom half spend much less time buying stuff than the top half. You still aren't anywhere near the bulk of $150 jeans consumers but no, Walmart has no impact. Target which is far short of a boutique has double the percentages in all the 100k+ and still 50% in $75-100k category.
And further the difference in living standard between Walmart customers and boutique customers is small than the spread between iPhone customers and the $150- smartphone customers on average.
Apple has lots of sharp corners once you want to go beyond basics. They would want the VM software to take over memory management. Honestly that's who you should be blaming. They weren't operating within Apple's system. Memory configuration isn't something that Apple wants end users doing. It is simple for the OS to handle it and they have great features for developers. For end users it is terrible.
I'm not following you. What specifically are you claiming about iPhone 5?