Understanding a particular spectacle require some knowledge of his culture. I will myself certainly be unable to understand usual spectacles form some others cultures. I don't know why, but it's not rare to find very abstract and conceptual spectacle here. This usually start some discussion on it, but not so much in this case.
I really don't see any point about the topless artist. Even my children don't notice something to say on that. There clearly identified the death in that part of the spectacle.
Would be great to find a good study on that subject. That said in the case of the Gotthard tunnel, the electricity that power the trains are mainly produced from local hydroelectric power stations. This is an almost ideal configuration, especially compared to the extraction, process, transportation, and combustion of the diesel.
You forget that we are talking about tunnels that cost far more than a road to build. Add to that that bus pass tunnel at 80km/h instead of 250km/h for the train. Security and reliability are also not comparable.
Because this tunnel is the biggest part of the European freight transportation politic across the Alps. Back in 199x, this was a heavy and difficule negociation between the European Union and the Switzerland (that is not part of the EU). More on this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
The purpose of the spectacle is deliberately to show the fear, the belief, the death attached to that mountain. The massive, heavy, dirty, noisy and dangerous work of building the multiple tunnels over here that require discipline, determination, and some kind of abnegation. This is not funny, just to remain to the politics that watched the spectacle this was not an easy task, and definitively not as easy as watching this spectacle.
So I personally give a +1 for that spectacle that honors the performances of the peoples that have actually do the work, instead of hiding that aspect with a artificially pleasant and funny spectacle that would basically be a lie.
Also remain that this tunnel is the biggest part of the European freight transit accord and that now Switzerland have realized there promise to the others countries, making pressure on them to realize there own promise. The spectacle in that context was also to show that workers action is required to implement the politic decisions.
Exactly, this make a lot of hot water. I don't know if there is a project for the Gotthard Base Tunnel but for the Lötschberg Base Tunnel the hot water is used to supply a sturgeon farm that produce Luxury Swiss Alp caviar, something impossible in natural condition. http://www.oona-caviar.ch/?lan...
For your understanding this part of the spectacle is a representation of the death planing over the tunnel workers and taking 9 of them during the 17 years of the project. This is an analogy of the raptors that fly in the region that take small animals like marmot that also live in that region.
It's hard to overstate how efficient trains are at moving cargo; no other land method comes close. (You can only do better on boats/barges.)
I highly doubt that a boat or barge can be more efficient giving the energy loss to displace the water. Displacing air only use far less energy. In addition, a train front surface is ridiculously small, making it extremely aerodynamic.
There exist a road tunnel for almost the same route, but it would take more than 1 hour at 80-100km/h to make the same travel than the train is 20 minutes at near 250km/h also because the many road curves add to the distance. In addition the road tunnel and urban area are easily saturated, compared to the fact that the Swiss trains are usually on time.
European freight trains in that region are exclusively powered by electricity, that is generated manly by hydroelectric and some nuclear power stations. This make your "clean diesel" theory a total joke on the subject...
You completely missed the point: European freight trains in that region are almost exclusively (if not totally) powered by electricity. This make them a lot greener than than the dirty US diesel freight trains.
You are all right but about the fact that there is a road tunnel https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... Swiss citizens voted early this year to build a new tube for it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... But when the new Gotthard Base Tunnel will operate freight trains, the tax for trucks that cross the country will raise to a dissuasive level.
Exactly. Add to that that in Switzerland trucks without special authorization are forbidden to drive at night and the week-end. This make a significant impact, especially on the highways.
The vast majority of trucks on this axis are foreign trucks crossing the country, usually between Italy and Germany. There have to pay a significant tax to use the Swiss roads (that partially financed the new tunnel). When the new Gotthard Base Tunnel will be operating freight trains, the this tax will rise to a dissuasive level.
No freight or passenger train, Swiss or foreign, will cross Switzerland on normal operation with a diesel locomotive, granted. There are railway cross-country agreement on this.
Exchanging locomotive on a station near the border was for a long time a usual process because historically the electrical locomotive was not designed to handle efficiently the different railway electrical standards (different frequency and voltage) used by each countries and the old Gotthard Tunnel needed special strong power electrical locomotives to raise the heavy freight trains to the altitude of the old tubes.
With the new Gotthard Base Tunnel, modern foreign locomotives that handle multiple railway electrical standards (and have the required ETCS >= 2 signalization https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... ) can pass the new tubes as easy as a normal flat track. This is a massive improvement compared to the actual situation.
The only diesel locomotives in Switzerland are either to maneuver on an few special small tracks no electrified that still exists (usually to reach private docks), or special emergency train (fire fighter train) that need to operate even in case on electric failure. In normal operation, you will never see a diesel locomotive on any train, freight or passenger, Swiss or foreign.
So yes, this have a major pollution and noise impact, especially on small valleys out there, and this is the major point that motivated the Swiss population to vote multiple times to push this solution forward. Finally the first operational tunnel of that kind in Switzerland was the Loetschberg Base Tunnel and it's a big success that go beyond initial expectation, connecting regions like never before.
The big advantage of hydro is that the useful mass cost almost nothing.
I live in a region that have many hydroelectric infrastructures, including the Grande Dixence Dam https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... that store 400'000'000m3 of fresh water so essentially the same number for his mass in ton. Now try to replace this mass with some cheap metal like iron that is about 50 USD/ton and you have to pay about 20'000'000'000 USD to get the same mass alone.
This is a very big investment, not counting the global iron supply price disruption that a such project will cause.
The Aarch64 will certainly attract the required focus on proper fabric and skilled programmers. The result would take some years to show up, but it will.
Well, the very first problem on this exact vote is precisely that the submitted text is almost empty, leaving all the "details" (actually the hard questions) for later. I am pretty confident that most of my co-citizens really reject this kind of vote, because we have a culture of thinks to be precisely negotiated and defined before implementation. So all are are actually conjecture and speculation on that subject.
Regarding your point 3), peoples not living on there declared location is already making big problems near the country border. Many French communes are taking successful actions to find and regularize Swiss peoples that do not pay for the infrastructure there use to live. Swiss communes also do that already but at a smaller scale to find social fraud. There obviously will need to increase the management of this problem, lowering the main advantage of the UBI that promise a simpler social administration.
Expats is one of the hard problem without clear solution of the actual UBI proposition. Again managing this will mostly lower the advertised administration simplification of the UBI.
Depend of the restaurant. Usual midday "plat du jour" meal is around CHF 20 +/- 4 depending of the location, without drink. As USD is near parity with CHF, you can almost directly translate. A pizza is usually somewhere between CHF 18 and CHF 28. Now if you like a good standard lunch for two with first plate, main and dessert and with a bottle of wine plus a cafe, you usually start somewhere between CHF 80 and CHF 120 for the two, but can go near CHF 200 on the many very good restaurant out there. On gastronomic restaurants, usual prices for a high end lunch are between CHF 150 and CHF 250 per person with a normal bottle of wine. Price can goes completely wired depending on the choice of the wine bottle.
Bullshit. The vast majority of Swiss farmers are in critical situation and almost all there equipment are from banks credit and/or cooperatives. Add to that that more and more of them don't own the land there uses for there production. Swiss government have each years to subside most of the farmers. This is actually a big problem because the internationals treaty forbid government subside to farmers, but internal political pressure impose very high and costly standards to the farmer production, making them unable to compete on the international market outside of very small high end niche market.
Swiss economy is running relatively well because the political process here allow citizens to clearly stop some incompetent politicians like in this case.
France for example the actual republic monarchy (an improved version of the constitutional monarchy that is already an improved version of the absolute monarchy) take decision without any others way for the citizens to do manifestation or strike action. As the decision is never endorsed by a majority of the citizens, there are constantly mostly against there own government. USA is almost in the same situation too.
Democracy to elect a single leader is the worst way to run a democracy. In Switzerland direct democracy and proportional representation up to the head of state proved since already 168 years that this is a more stable political system. I will encourage more countries to improve there political system too.
Slashdot Mirror
Understanding a particular spectacle require some knowledge of his culture. I will myself certainly be unable to understand usual spectacles form some others cultures. I don't know why, but it's not rare to find very abstract and conceptual spectacle here. This usually start some discussion on it, but not so much in this case.
I really don't see any point about the topless artist. Even my children don't notice something to say on that. There clearly identified the death in that part of the spectacle.
Would be great to find a good study on that subject. That said in the case of the Gotthard tunnel, the electricity that power the trains are mainly produced from local hydroelectric power stations. This is an almost ideal configuration, especially compared to the extraction, process, transportation, and combustion of the diesel.
You forget that we are talking about tunnels that cost far more than a road to build. Add to that that bus pass tunnel at 80km/h instead of 250km/h for the train. Security and reliability are also not comparable.
Because this tunnel is the biggest part of the European freight transportation politic across the Alps. Back in 199x, this was a heavy and difficule negociation between the European Union and the Switzerland (that is not part of the EU).
More on this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Switzerland is actually doing relatively well, even compared to USA.
There wasn't enough Swiss workers to do this project and a lot of them was coming for neighbour countries if not from more distant countries.
The purpose of the spectacle is deliberately to show the fear, the belief, the death attached to that mountain. The massive, heavy, dirty, noisy and dangerous work of building the multiple tunnels over here that require discipline, determination, and some kind of abnegation. This is not funny, just to remain to the politics that watched the spectacle this was not an easy task, and definitively not as easy as watching this spectacle.
So I personally give a +1 for that spectacle that honors the performances of the peoples that have actually do the work, instead of hiding that aspect with a artificially pleasant and funny spectacle that would basically be a lie.
Also remain that this tunnel is the biggest part of the European freight transit accord and that now Switzerland have realized there promise to the others countries, making pressure on them to realize there own promise. The spectacle in that context was also to show that workers action is required to implement the politic decisions.
Exactly, this make a lot of hot water. I don't know if there is a project for the Gotthard Base Tunnel but for the Lötschberg Base Tunnel the hot water is used to supply a sturgeon farm that produce Luxury Swiss Alp caviar, something impossible in natural condition. http://www.oona-caviar.ch/?lan...
For your understanding this part of the spectacle is a representation of the death planing over the tunnel workers and taking 9 of them during the 17 years of the project. This is an analogy of the raptors that fly in the region that take small animals like marmot that also live in that region.
It's hard to overstate how efficient trains are at moving cargo; no other land method comes close. (You can only do better on boats/barges.)
I highly doubt that a boat or barge can be more efficient giving the energy loss to displace the water. Displacing air only use far less energy. In addition, a train front surface is ridiculously small, making it extremely aerodynamic.
There exist a road tunnel for almost the same route, but it would take more than 1 hour at 80-100km/h to make the same travel than the train is 20 minutes at near 250km/h also because the many road curves add to the distance. In addition the road tunnel and urban area are easily saturated, compared to the fact that the Swiss trains are usually on time.
European freight trains in that region are exclusively powered by electricity, that is generated manly by hydroelectric and some nuclear power stations.
This make your "clean diesel" theory a total joke on the subject...
You completely missed the point: European freight trains in that region are almost exclusively (if not totally) powered by electricity. This make them a lot greener than than the dirty US diesel freight trains.
You are all right but about the fact that there is a road tunnel https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Swiss citizens voted early this year to build a new tube for it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
But when the new Gotthard Base Tunnel will operate freight trains, the tax for trucks that cross the country will raise to a dissuasive level.
Exactly.
Add to that that in Switzerland trucks without special authorization are forbidden to drive at night and the week-end. This make a significant impact, especially on the highways.
The vast majority of trucks on this axis are foreign trucks crossing the country, usually between Italy and Germany. There have to pay a significant tax to use the Swiss roads (that partially financed the new tunnel). When the new Gotthard Base Tunnel will be operating freight trains, the this tax will rise to a dissuasive level.
No freight or passenger train, Swiss or foreign, will cross Switzerland on normal operation with a diesel locomotive, granted. There are railway cross-country agreement on this.
Exchanging locomotive on a station near the border was for a long time a usual process because historically the electrical locomotive was not designed to handle efficiently the different railway electrical standards (different frequency and voltage) used by each countries and the old Gotthard Tunnel needed special strong power electrical locomotives to raise the heavy freight trains to the altitude of the old tubes.
With the new Gotthard Base Tunnel, modern foreign locomotives that handle multiple railway electrical standards (and have the required ETCS >= 2 signalization https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... ) can pass the new tubes as easy as a normal flat track. This is a massive improvement compared to the actual situation.
The only diesel locomotives in Switzerland are either to maneuver on an few special small tracks no electrified that still exists (usually to reach private docks), or special emergency train (fire fighter train) that need to operate even in case on electric failure. In normal operation, you will never see a diesel locomotive on any train, freight or passenger, Swiss or foreign.
So yes, this have a major pollution and noise impact, especially on small valleys out there, and this is the major point that motivated the Swiss population to vote multiple times to push this solution forward. Finally the first operational tunnel of that kind in Switzerland was the Loetschberg Base Tunnel and it's a big success that go beyond initial expectation, connecting regions like never before.
Great post. Please mod up.
The big advantage of hydro is that the useful mass cost almost nothing.
I live in a region that have many hydroelectric infrastructures, including the Grande Dixence Dam https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... that store 400'000'000m3 of fresh water so essentially the same number for his mass in ton. Now try to replace this mass with some cheap metal like iron that is about 50 USD/ton and you have to pay about 20'000'000'000 USD to get the same mass alone.
This is a very big investment, not counting the global iron supply price disruption that a such project will cause.
The Aarch64 will certainly attract the required focus on proper fabric and skilled programmers. The result would take some years to show up, but it will.
Well, the very first problem on this exact vote is precisely that the submitted text is almost empty, leaving all the "details" (actually the hard questions) for later. I am pretty confident that most of my co-citizens really reject this kind of vote, because we have a culture of thinks to be precisely negotiated and defined before implementation. So all are are actually conjecture and speculation on that subject.
Regarding your point 3), peoples not living on there declared location is already making big problems near the country border. Many French communes are taking successful actions to find and regularize Swiss peoples that do not pay for the infrastructure there use to live. Swiss communes also do that already but at a smaller scale to find social fraud. There obviously will need to increase the management of this problem, lowering the main advantage of the UBI that promise a simpler social administration.
Expats is one of the hard problem without clear solution of the actual UBI proposition. Again managing this will mostly lower the advertised administration simplification of the UBI.
Depend of the restaurant. Usual midday "plat du jour" meal is around CHF 20 +/- 4 depending of the location, without drink. As USD is near parity with CHF, you can almost directly translate. A pizza is usually somewhere between CHF 18 and CHF 28. Now if you like a good standard lunch for two with first plate, main and dessert and with a bottle of wine plus a cafe, you usually start somewhere between CHF 80 and CHF 120 for the two, but can go near CHF 200 on the many very good restaurant out there. On gastronomic restaurants, usual prices for a high end lunch are between CHF 150 and CHF 250 per person with a normal bottle of wine. Price can goes completely wired depending on the choice of the wine bottle.
Bullshit. The vast majority of Swiss farmers are in critical situation and almost all there equipment are from banks credit and/or cooperatives. Add to that that more and more of them don't own the land there uses for there production. Swiss government have each years to subside most of the farmers. This is actually a big problem because the internationals treaty forbid government subside to farmers, but internal political pressure impose very high and costly standards to the farmer production, making them unable to compete on the international market outside of very small high end niche market.
Swiss economy is running relatively well because the political process here allow citizens to clearly stop some incompetent politicians like in this case.
France for example the actual republic monarchy (an improved version of the constitutional monarchy that is already an improved version of the absolute monarchy) take decision without any others way for the citizens to do manifestation or strike action. As the decision is never endorsed by a majority of the citizens, there are constantly mostly against there own government. USA is almost in the same situation too.
Democracy to elect a single leader is the worst way to run a democracy. In Switzerland direct democracy and proportional representation up to the head of state proved since already 168 years that this is a more stable political system. I will encourage more countries to improve there political system too.