... and apparently the first production network based only on packet switching (as is IP today) was Cyclades, as described in this interview (in french):
I am of the people who say "We should call it Xfree86/BSD/GNU/Linux then." (add KDE, Apache and a few more), because Linux_kernel+GNU_tools alone would be useless for the vast majority of */Linux/* users. And the work of a lot more developers is ignored when calling the whole stuff GNU/Linux.
I don't agree with "GNU and Linux represent the core that is needed". I work in embedded systems, it is perfectly possible to have working and useful systems based on a Linux kernel, without any bit of GNU run-time software.
I especially hate the fact that this confusion led to some people naming Linux-the-kernel the "GNU/Linux kernel"... it is fine when thought of as "the kernel of a GNU/Linux distribution", but there will be people to believe that the Linux kernel is a GNU project.
So, how should YOU call your system-featuring-a-Linux-kernel-and-GNU-code ? Simple:
Got a Slack ? Name it "Slackware Linux"
a RedHat ? that's a "RedHat Linux"
a Mandrake ? what about "Linux-Mandrake"
a SuSE ? "SuSE Linux" looks nice
a Debian ? "Debian GNU/Linux".
And now, how should your */Linux/* distributor name its stuff ? Hint: the Debian project got it right. Mandrake is halfway to the light (their site mention their system as a GNU/Linux system). Others should really fear RMS assaults:)
(btw I told that to RMS last year. I got some pissed-of replies and I was not sure he understood my point - but he made his point of view a bit clearer since then, so there is hope)
It seems that rail transportation in north america is going to remain unaffordable for another couple of years with such rates. In Europe one can travel between Brussels, London, Paris, München, Torino, for less than the cost of a flight ticket, and there are special prices for young people. Night trains are also quite popular here (far less comfortable than your bedroom, but far more than a bus).
When I have to travel from my home in Paris (France) to my parents in Bordeaux, it is as fast, cheaper and more convenient to board on a train than to take a flight.
Distance between both towns: about 360 miles (580km).
Train cost for a < 25 years old: less than $26. Full fare rate $47.
Airline cost: cannot be less than $40 (full fare rate beginning at $100).
Train: tube (30 min), wait (10 min), train (3 hours), walk (15 min). Total 3h55. Quite reliable (strikes excepted), not too dependant on weather, and I can use my laptop all the way in the train.
Flight: tube (30 min), wait (20 min), bus (30 min), wait (30 min), flight (1:15), car (25 min). Total 3h30, but my parents have to come to the airport. Quite dependant on weather, and still dependant on strikes. Can't work in the tube, neither in the bus, I can just download my mails while waiting in the airport and read them later onboard (allowed time: about 40min).
As a result, there is no more room on december 23rd trains, but I could buy a student fare ticket (very limited supply) for a flight the same day.
The article does not mention it, but the current world speed record (on "conventional" railways) of more than 320 mph (515km/h) was achieved on this line in the early 90's during test runs, with tuned hardware.
The Eiffel Tower's countdown did not seem to be Y2K-Ready:)
http://fr.news.yahoo.com/000101/4/7vak.html
... and IE5's JScript implementation of the getYear method is not compliant to MS's documentation. According to the doc on MSDN and the result given by IE5, we are in 1900.
Here in France a bunch of geeks are riding motorcycles too. Harleys are not very popular among geeks here, japonese mixers are when it's hot and sunny:).
Wealthy geeks rides BMWs. A few buys Buells. Many Ducatis (my favorite is the 888). More and more Guzzis (the fun bike of the moment is the V11 Sport). A few Triumphs.
If only I had enough money I would buy one of the last Cagiva Gran Canyon (they are replaced by the Navigator, with the TL1000's engine).
I agree with this. It looked like something written by a challenger to me the first time I read it. It is worse than they first real attempt to discredit Linux : now there are only defensive arguments.
MS is getting to a point where the marketing will not save their OS products.
What I would really like Borland to free is the source code for Sprint, a MS-Word competitor ten years ago.
It had nice features for something to run on a 8088 with 512KB RAM (spell checking, autosave, customizable UI), and its formatter was inspired from Scribe.
It seems that the company that made it (it was not originally written by Borland) it making Midi hw and software right now.
... because I live in Bordeaux and the Greenwich meridian is much closer.
We can't EVEN get rid of that stupid summer time (ici on TROUVE midi [solaire] a 14 heures [legales]) (there is a 2-hours offset on the solar time, not too good for cancers and pollution) because of european regulations.
Rather than chosing le meridien de Paris we should use le meridien de `replace by the name of the french village where the Greenwich Meridian is crossing 45 deg latitude' - and make 1 day made of 10 hours, 1 hour made of 1000 seconds, and 1 year made of 10 month (there was an attempt to make weeks 10 days in 1789...).
Just look how the figures are wrong, even if the text seems correct.
Figure 1 : There are more layers on UNIX ! [(Application|XServer)-(libc|xlib|libs)]-system calls-kernel-hardware. This implies you can have many instances of the GUI. Doing the same on NT need severe tweaking of the Win32 layer.
Figure 2 : there is no documented link between application and system services. Most system calls on NT are undocumented (details). And the HAL is a joke, hardware accesses are hard-wired in the ntkernel like in Unix.
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... and apparently the first production network based only on packet switching (as is IP today) was Cyclades, as described in this interview (in french):
http://www.isoc.asso.fr/AUTRANS98/lpouzin.htm
ARPAnet had not "pure" packet switching, according to the same source.
I am of the people who say "We should call it Xfree86/BSD/GNU/Linux then." (add KDE, Apache and a few more), because Linux_kernel+GNU_tools alone would be useless for the vast majority of */Linux/* users. And the work of a lot more developers is ignored when calling the whole stuff GNU/Linux.
... it is fine when thought of as "the kernel of a GNU/Linux distribution", but there will be people to believe that the Linux kernel is a GNU project.
:)
I don't agree with "GNU and Linux represent the core that is needed". I work in embedded systems, it is perfectly possible to have working and useful systems based on a Linux kernel, without any bit of GNU run-time software.
I especially hate the fact that this confusion led to some people naming Linux-the-kernel the "GNU/Linux kernel"
So, how should YOU call your system-featuring-a-Linux-kernel-and-GNU-code ? Simple:
Got a Slack ? Name it "Slackware Linux"
a RedHat ? that's a "RedHat Linux"
a Mandrake ? what about "Linux-Mandrake"
a SuSE ? "SuSE Linux" looks nice
a Debian ? "Debian GNU/Linux".
And now, how should your */Linux/* distributor name its stuff ? Hint: the Debian project got it right. Mandrake is halfway to the light (their site mention their system as a GNU/Linux system). Others should really fear RMS assaults
(btw I told that to RMS last year. I got some pissed-of replies and I was not sure he understood my point - but he made his point of view a bit clearer since then, so there is hope)
... like the 2nd edition of the Libre Software Meeting, in the wonderful area of Bordeaux, France, this summer.
Meetings, coffee, coding parties, Bordeaux restaurants, Atlantic sand beaches, nice people to meet, girlfriends welcome.
Visit the site at http://www.armelle.org/ or http://lsm.abul.org/
--
mogdax
It seems that rail transportation in north america is going to remain unaffordable for another couple of years with such rates. In Europe one can travel between Brussels, London, Paris, München, Torino, for less than the cost of a flight ticket, and there are special prices for young people. Night trains are also quite popular here (far less comfortable than your bedroom, but far more than a bus).
When I have to travel from my home in Paris (France) to my parents in Bordeaux, it is as fast, cheaper and more convenient to board on a train than to take a flight.
Distance between both towns: about 360 miles (580km).
Train cost for a < 25 years old: less than $26. Full fare rate $47.
Airline cost: cannot be less than $40 (full fare rate beginning at $100).
Train: tube (30 min), wait (10 min), train (3 hours), walk (15 min). Total 3h55. Quite reliable (strikes excepted), not too dependant on weather, and I can use my laptop all the way in the train.
Flight: tube (30 min), wait (20 min), bus (30 min), wait (30 min), flight (1:15), car (25 min). Total 3h30, but my parents have to come to the airport. Quite dependant on weather, and still dependant on strikes. Can't work in the tube, neither in the bus, I can just download my mails while waiting in the airport and read them later onboard (allowed time: about 40min).
As a result, there is no more room on december 23rd trains, but I could buy a student fare ticket (very limited supply) for a flight the same day.
The article does not mention it, but the current world speed record (on "conventional" railways) of more than 320 mph (515km/h) was achieved on this line in the early 90's during test runs, with tuned hardware.
For those interested in high speed train technologies :
http://mercurio.iet.unipi.it/tgv/ tgv index.html
The Eiffel Tower's countdown did not seem to be Y2K-Ready :)
http://fr.news.yahoo.com/000101/4/7vak.html
... and IE5's JScript implementation of the getYear method is not compliant to MS's documentation. According to the doc on MSDN and the result given by IE5, we are in 1900.
Here in France a bunch of geeks are riding motorcycles too. Harleys are not very popular among geeks here, japonese mixers are when it's hot and sunny :).
Wealthy geeks rides BMWs. A few buys Buells. Many Ducatis (my favorite is the 888). More and more Guzzis (the fun bike of the moment is the V11 Sport). A few Triumphs.
If only I had enough money I would buy one of the last Cagiva Gran Canyon (they are replaced by the Navigator, with the TL1000's engine).
I agree with this. It looked like something written by a challenger to me the first time I read it. It is worse than they first real attempt to discredit Linux : now there are only defensive arguments.
MS is getting to a point where the marketing will not save their OS products.
What I would really like Borland to free is the source code for Sprint, a MS-Word competitor ten years ago.
It had nice features for something to run on a 8088 with 512KB RAM (spell checking, autosave, customizable UI), and its formatter was inspired from Scribe.
It seems that the company that made it (it was not originally written by Borland) it making Midi hw and software right now.
... because I live in Bordeaux and the Greenwich meridian is much closer.
...).
We can't EVEN get rid of that stupid summer time (ici on TROUVE midi [solaire] a 14 heures [legales]) (there is a 2-hours offset on the solar time, not too good for cancers and pollution) because of european regulations.
Rather than chosing le meridien de Paris we should use le meridien de `replace by the name of the french village where the Greenwich Meridian is crossing 45 deg latitude' - and make 1 day made of 10 hours, 1 hour made of 1000 seconds, and 1 year made of 10 month (there was an attempt to make weeks 10 days in 1789