Sorry, but I can't see the conflict. In order to have evolution you need replication, it's as simple as that.
Neither are we limited to low melting point plastics. We can extrude ABS for a start, and PLA holds boiling water. I can extrude silicones good for 300C, and ceramics that will take a good deal more. But I don't because I'm concentrating on replication.
Finally, we're not after complete and self-contained replication. We're after practical replication, and there's a huge difference. How closed the cycle gets depends on the enthusiasm and needs of the users.
In order to complete this journey, you need the "single step" to get it started. I've made that step and already listened to lots of people saying that what I've achieved is impossible. If you can do it better, please - lead the way and I will thank you.
The design is meant to evolve. It won't do that until it replicates. Therefore, the most critical thing to do is make it replicate. If we spent our time making cool gadgets with it, this would delay the onset of replication and keep the thing out of your hands. It is only when large numbers of people can get hold of the thing that the design will evolve.
Besides, making it capable of producing its own parts automatically makes it capable of creating a whole heap of other stuff. People are subverting bits of the design already.
So, the situation in the US would be much improved if someone had the balls to clearly state terrorism manipulates senators so they pass laws that only create the impression of security. Terrorists then create so many false positives that they can hide with impunity. What was it? 1 in 300 Americans is suspected of terrorist links?
As a bonus, fixing this would get the background reasoning for senate decisions investigated and put out in the open where it should be.
The only reason I can see that it is drawing people to cities is that no company wants to do rural cellphone coverage and you can't get broadband out there either.
Their recent article on Leopard had a poll by the side, asking who was going to install it. There were in excess of 55,336 votes (I stopped looking at that point) and the poll showed over 14% had Linux as their preferred OS. That means AT LEAST 7,500 users.
I have a screenshot of the page if anyone gives a damn.
Another vote here for ArtOfIllusion. The dev team is exceptionally accommodating and the plugin support is great. I've used it for everything from aerospace animations to 3D CAD for 3D Printing. It will also output absolutely massive renderings direct to disk.
A great book on Erlang, but missing a few details on the usage of common libraries. In particular it could do with more information on how to drive the Mnesia database. I started programming Erlang a month ago and the shortage of implementation docs on the database and list libraries has been a problem for me.
Like other attempts at security by obscurity, it'll be widely used to "combat terrorism" and then be broken. Us good citizens then have to deal with the crap when it all goes awry. Usual story.
AoI Works fine on Linux, Windows and Macs to my certain knowledge. The lead developer uses a Mac. I've been using it mostly on Linux for many years professionally, and its latest incarnation of the user interface is just so much easier to use - and teach new users with - than Blender. It is capable of producing massive renders, tens of thousands of pixels across or simply running off a quick animation preview.
Also, AoI produces and validates true 3D shapes. This is important, as shapes which merely look like they're 3D but in reality have a few klein bottles hidden within the mesh are impossible to print out on a 3D printer.
Finally, the AoI community is extremely helpful and responsive. For these reasons, we use AoI in the RepRap Project to build objects for our Open Source 3D printer.
Yes, but sadly religious extremism beats common sense. It's wonderful stuff, would fix the problem nicely, and wouldn't result in hordes of drug-fueled zombies. But it's not going to get through congress. It'll have to be left to a more enlightened country to threaten the US economy with hemp-based biofuel before the congress-critters do anything about it.
Minor point here. RepRap is designed from the ground up to be capable of reproducing itself in a practical manner, and to do so on the average desktop. The Fab@Home device is not, and the author of the comment was after a machine that would.
The "Zaphod" RepRap prototype that made its own part (and has since made others, as well as functioning gears) has not reproduced but in theory it could. In practice, that's not a necessary or desirable goal - the "Darwin" 1.0 release looms, and this will be a far more capable design. "Zaphod" was only a proof-of-principle device, and as such is a useful testbed.
Metal traces may be available as an add-on to "Darwin", or may well be made in other ways (heck, there's a lot going on in the RepRap project). Using the same conductive materials employed by Fab@Home in the filler extrusion head, for example, or depositing etch resist. Actual metal will be incorporated in the 2.0 "Mendel" release - see the timeline on the RepRap homepage.
Seriously. Australians are probably second only to Americans in having newspapers that seldom mention other parts of the world unless they have Australian drug smugglers being tried in them or are playing sport with Australians.
I base this sweeping generalisation on "The Age" website and the newspapers that I browse in hotels there.
They do, however, do an amazingly good Linux conference...
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Roll on Android phones, assuming that it will let you encrypt the speech data stream...
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Vik
Sorry, but I can't see the conflict. In order to have evolution you need replication, it's as simple as that.
:v)
Neither are we limited to low melting point plastics. We can extrude ABS for a start, and PLA holds boiling water. I can extrude silicones good for 300C, and ceramics that will take a good deal more. But I don't because I'm concentrating on replication.
Finally, we're not after complete and self-contained replication. We're after practical replication, and there's a huge difference. How closed the cycle gets depends on the enthusiasm and needs of the users.
In order to complete this journey, you need the "single step" to get it started. I've made that step and already listened to lots of people saying that what I've achieved is impossible. If you can do it better, please - lead the way and I will thank you.
Vik
The Diamond Age is a great book, enjoyed it muchly and has been a source of encouragement if not inspiration during the RepRap's early stages.
:v)
Vik
The design is meant to evolve. It won't do that until it replicates. Therefore, the most critical thing to do is make it replicate. If we spent our time making cool gadgets with it, this would delay the onset of replication and keep the thing out of your hands. It is only when large numbers of people can get hold of the thing that the design will evolve.
:v)
Besides, making it capable of producing its own parts automatically makes it capable of creating a whole heap of other stuff. People are subverting bits of the design already.
Vik
Tried that. Neither NASA nor ESA deign to respond to our e-mail. Shame, but there you go.
:v)
Vik
So, the situation in the US would be much improved if someone had the balls to clearly state terrorism manipulates senators so they pass laws that only create the impression of security. Terrorists then create so many false positives that they can hide with impunity. What was it? 1 in 300 Americans is suspected of terrorist links?
:v)
As a bonus, fixing this would get the background reasoning for senate decisions investigated and put out in the open where it should be.
Vik
The only reason I can see that it is drawing people to cities is that no company wants to do rural cellphone coverage and you can't get broadband out there either.
:v)
Bring the OLPC to the West, says I.
Vik
Who does Honda retrofits? I have a Civic hybrid and would love to plug it in.
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Can't find anyone to do it though.
Vik
That links to the foundation's website and is also shut down.
:v)
Vik
Their recent article on Leopard had a poll by the side, asking who was going to install it. There were in excess of 55,336 votes (I stopped looking at that point) and the poll showed over 14% had Linux as their preferred OS. That means AT LEAST 7,500 users.
:v)
I have a screenshot of the page if anyone gives a damn.
Vik
Another vote here for ArtOfIllusion. The dev team is exceptionally accommodating and the plugin support is great. I've used it for everything from aerospace animations to 3D CAD for 3D Printing. It will also output absolutely massive renderings direct to disk.
:v)
Vik
A great book on Erlang, but missing a few details on the usage of common libraries. In particular it could do with more information on how to drive the Mnesia database. I started programming Erlang a month ago and the shortage of implementation docs on the database and list libraries has been a problem for me.
:v)
Yes, I do know about the Ericsson Mnesia manual and http://trapexit.org/
Vik
Like other attempts at security by obscurity, it'll be widely used to "combat terrorism" and then be broken. Us good citizens then have to deal with the crap when it all goes awry. Usual story.
:v)
Vik
Accuracy doesn't seem to be much of an issue to be honest.
:v)
Moving 2 axes at the same time gives up to sqrt(2) the head velocity. So it builds faster.
Vik
AoI Works fine on Linux, Windows and Macs to my certain knowledge. The lead developer uses a Mac. I've been using it mostly on Linux for many years professionally, and its latest incarnation of the user interface is just so much easier to use - and teach new users with - than Blender. It is capable of producing massive renders, tens of thousands of pixels across or simply running off a quick animation preview.
:v)
Also, AoI produces and validates true 3D shapes. This is important, as shapes which merely look like they're 3D but in reality have a few klein bottles hidden within the mesh are impossible to print out on a 3D printer.
Finally, the AoI community is extremely helpful and responsive. For these reasons, we use AoI in the RepRap Project to build objects for our Open Source 3D printer.
Vik
Yes, but sadly religious extremism beats common sense. It's wonderful stuff, would fix the problem nicely, and wouldn't result in hordes of drug-fueled zombies. But it's not going to get through congress. It'll have to be left to a more enlightened country to threaten the US economy with hemp-based biofuel before the congress-critters do anything about it.
:v)
Vik
A mock-horror film about genetically modified sheep turning bad, just released:
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sheep_(2007_fi
"There are 40 million sheep in New Zealand....and they're pissed off!"
Vik
Half the plastics manufacturing industry for a start...
:v)
Vik
Don't print the circuitry on the packaging, print it on the 3D object you just printed out. http://reprap.org/
:v)
No reason to keep this circuitry planar either. Print any shape you like with the circuitry embedded in it.
Vik
Or buy one in New Zealand, where we don't have that crap.
:v)
Vik
Minor point here. RepRap is designed from the ground up to be capable of reproducing itself in a practical manner, and to do so on the average desktop. The Fab@Home device is not, and the author of the comment was after a machine that would.
:v)
The "Zaphod" RepRap prototype that made its own part (and has since made others, as well as functioning gears) has not reproduced but in theory it could. In practice, that's not a necessary or desirable goal - the "Darwin" 1.0 release looms, and this will be a far more capable design. "Zaphod" was only a proof-of-principle device, and as such is a useful testbed.
Metal traces may be available as an add-on to "Darwin", or may well be made in other ways (heck, there's a lot going on in the RepRap project). Using the same conductive materials employed by Fab@Home in the filler extrusion head, for example, or depositing etch resist. Actual metal will be incorporated in the 2.0 "Mendel" release - see the timeline on the RepRap homepage.
Vik
No, but a RepRap can: http://reprap.org/
:v)
Vik
The Fab@Home machine can't produce itself. If you want one of those, got to http://reprap.org/
:v)
Vik
Michigan teenager Thiago Olson just built the world's 18th non-professional - but functioning - fusion reactor in his basement:7 082
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http://www.freemarketnews.com/WorldNews.asp?nid=2
Fusor technology. Somewhat different approach to ITER, and wildly different in the amount of funding it attracts.
Vik
Seriously. Australians are probably second only to Americans in having newspapers that seldom mention other parts of the world unless they have Australian drug smugglers being tried in them or are playing sport with Australians.
:v)
I base this sweeping generalisation on "The Age" website and the newspapers that I browse in hotels there.
They do, however, do an amazingly good Linux conference...
Vik