Dept. of Energy Rejects Corn Fuel Future
eldavojohn writes "The United States' Department of Energy is stating that corn based fuel is not the future. From the article, "I'm not going to predict what the price of corn is going to do, but I will tell you the future of biofuels is not based on corn," U.S. Deputy Energy Secretary Clay Sell said in an interview. Output of U.S. ethanol, which is mostly made from corn, is expected to jump in 2007 from 5.6 billion gallons per year to 8 billion gpy, as nearly 80 bio-refineries sprout up. In related news, Fidel Castro is blasting the production of corn fuel as a blatant waste of food that would otherwise feed 3 billion people who will die of hunger."
In related news, Fidel Castro is blasting the production of corn fuel as a blatant waste of food that would otherwise feed 3 billion people who will die of hunger.
He only wants to keep them alive so he can have a fresh supply of warm brains.
The theory of relativity doesn't work right in Arkansas.
It's not sweet corn that people can eat that is the issue here.
BTW, aren't you dead?
They are both correct. An odd moment of clarity from DoE and Castro.
They (like sugar cane) all grow in a 2d space. In addition, a log of energy goes into growing corn and sugar. In addition, these crops are basically batched. You may plant and then lose it all in the end.
Instead, ethanol and bio-deasil will come from algae or other microbes. The simple fact is that it allows for a continual stream of fuel as well as feeds on our waste. Finally, the amount of fuel that it uses is a fraction of regular crops.
Have to laugh at what castro is saying. There is plenty of food for the world. The issue is one of distribution. Correct that, and we could cut back on crops.
I prefer the "u" in honour as it seems to be missing these days.
Castro is making a self-serving statement because he knows Cuba is a significant producer of sugarcane and potentially of ethanol, just like Brazil. It could be the cash cow he's been seeking since the fall of the USSR. Perhaps he dreams of selling it to the US. But ethanol is such a poor fuel compared to biodiesel I am amazed it gets the attention it does.
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That three billion people die a year from hunger. HOLY CRAP!
How come aren't there any diesel hybrids available? They should provide even more mpg than a prius.
While I'm thinking about it, why aren't the car engines run like the train engines, with the diesel motor running at a more or less constant rate refueling the batteries that run the electric motors that actually turn the wheels - the diesel engine could be much smaller than normal because it won't have to peak to provide power - just a nice steady constant - wouldn't even have to be a normal 4 stroke engine - it could be a stirling engine that is highly efficient but has problems speeding up - though Ford managed to get it's 0-60 speed down to 17 seconds while experimenting with alternate engines during the 70s oil crisis - making it's marriage to this application ideal.
Any thoughts on this? I admit I don't have much knowledge in this area and probably missed something very basic that is wrong with the idea.
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Even if you buy their generous estimate of 35K deaths/day, that's over 200 years to reach 3 billion deaths.
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The only thing more pathetic than being a living fossil from the cold war is making puerile jokes about one. Are you afraid from him?
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He doesn't realize that we pay farmers NOT to plant corn, soybeans, and other crops through agricultrial subsidies. They can now plant, sell at a higher price that what they currently recieve, and the government doesn't have to continue the payments.
I'm actually surprised the DOE come to a logical conclusion. I could be wrong but with the current technology, the amount of energy that we can produce from corn (or grass, ...) doesn't even equal the amount that we use to produce it (converting it to ethanol or whatever...). There is some promise with genetically engineered bacteria producing ethanol, but what happens when that stuff gets into the wild (which is inevitable given what happened with genetically engineered food).
Personally I'm still looking towards solar or fusion....
Are you really that ignorant?
I don't think jobs are the problem, but the supply of food.
Not everywhere is like the land of the plenty were the supermarkets are stocked with food.
Sugar cane ethanol is the viable alternative, if you are going to use biomass based fuel. Brazil is doing it since the seventies, it already works on most cars that use gas with little to no modification (Fiat, GM and other auto companies already produces them in quantities there) and it is almost a closed cycle, using barely to no fossil fuel on its production. This (warning, PDF) is a good summary on the benefits of sugar cane ethanol, of course we can wait for hydrogen or whatever is the technology of the future, just like we are waiting since the seventies, but if you want something that already works, sugar cane ethanol is the way to go.
Do you know that the only reason that makes U.S. not to get more ethanol from Brazil is protectionism via subsides and import quotas? Fidel got it right on this one, in order to protect the few (and rich) local corn farmers (not to mention the oil barons), U.S. impedes cheap sugar and ethanol to reach the U.S., artificially increasing the demand of corn for ethanol production, driving corn prices up and, this way, making things harder for poor people on U.S. itself and, indirectly, on Mexico too (thanks Nafta). Check this article and see, it is past the point of speculation and conspiracy theories.
Law of unintended consequences in action here. It could be different. Unfortunately, I'm not a citizen of U.S., so, I'm not part of the democratic process there. But a lot of you are, and only you could make the difference. You can wait for the Tesla electric car all your lives (maybe it will fly too, if you wait time enough) while complaining about dependence on fossil fuels and financing wars on it, or you can make the difference now and take a stand on it.
Before you say it, no, we don't need to think of the children. Industrial hemp contains less than 0.3% THC, as opposed to the 20%-30% that is found in unfertilized female plants that are grown for drug use. But God forbid anyone grow hemp: we all know what evils marijuana can cause.
'Every story, if continued long enough, ends in death.' --Ernest Hemingway
Why doesn't anyone recognize this ethanol bullshit for what it is - a sop to farmers and farm state congressmen. We already use all the arable land on this planet to feed ourselves and the beef we eat, where are we going to grow all the plants that would be needed to feed our SUVs?
On the other side, corn base ethanol is a subsidy for big corporate agribusiness, and has nothing to do with actual energy independence or carbon dioxide reduction.
The compromise positon is free cigars and moonshine for all!!
I mean, when you eat corn, it's pretty much in one end and out the other, anyway, right? Just make everyone in America eat a cob of corn every day, and let the sewage treatment plants separate the fuel from the... Well, you know.
Screw the rules, I have green hair!
People are starving because of a food supply problem?! THE HELL YOU SAY!
The news here is not that corn is a bad way to make ethanol. Everybody who isn't in the pocket of agribusiness knows that. The news here is that a true blue bushie (or should I say true red bushie? how did Republicans become red?) has reached this conclusion. Which is going to upset a lot of people. Which means they're up to something. What? Is Bush going to invade Iowa?
He seemed kind of adamant that corn fuels were the way to go...
Biodiesel. You're absolutely right.
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...we wake up from this corn ethanol farce. Corn ethanol hasnt gotten close to breaking even and isnt expected to do so. Meanwhile viable alternatives like sweet and brown potatoes which can yeild just as much ethanol as sugar cane per volume are given the blind eye. Potatoes grow easilly, have few enemies, and require next to no fertilizers.
I would really like to see automakers push more diesel engines in America. Bioiesel production per energy breaks even with nearly every method. It also has greater energy than gasoline per volume, unlike ethanol which has about 2/3's as much as gasoline.
Ultimately the defining factor of energy infrastructure is the technology itself and demand for innovation of that technology. Today, automakers are focused on riding out low compression engines to the very end instead of focusing on more efficient and powerful diesel technology. But as already pointed out, it was never about energy independance, but rather kickbacks to the agriculture business. So we will not see soon a Manhattan project for more efficient engines, nor will we see the same fervor put into biodiesel prduction that we currently have for the ethanol pipe dream.
Thanks Congress. You are awesome.
So we need a Soylent green fuel.
After the starved folks die, we catalyze them into either a fossil fuel, or a biofuel....
Is it possible to create oil from biowaste? That is where it came from any way right?
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It takes more energy to grow and process the corn into biofuel than you would get from using the biofuel produced. The only reason why corn has been considered is because lobbying concerns have been pushing for it to increase the bottom line of big agri-businesses like ADM. The US already has massive corporate welfare programs for the 'poor farmers' of corporate agri-business and I'm surprised that the DoE has taken this stance.
Ethanol is not the way forward, the BBC has an interesting article on this, some excerpts:
So it seems the right decisions are being made here. I'm quite suprised as I thought lobby groups were already springing up around so-called 'green fuels', I've seen some suspicious adverts for ethanol fuels on Canadian TV recently.
I'm going to transform myself into a mighty hawk. Either that or I'll just go and work at Dixons, haven't decided yet.
Think about the total amount of food grown and the land used to grow food. The average person eats about 2000-2500 kCal per day in food. The average person consumes about 36,000 kCal per day worth of oil (just oil, not including coal, nat gas, etc.).
Is the Earth big enough to provide 15-20 times the current food production level of biofuel-grade plant material? And if we plant more energy crops won't we be planting less food crops?
The US will be fine, but any one who eats food grown on land that could be used to grow an energy crop will see higher food prices.
Two wrongs don't make a right, but three lefts do.
Why don't we just switch to using cane sugar for our food and have the farmers sell all that excess corn for biofuel? It might make us a little less fat, too.
Did you ever notice that *nix doesn't even cover Linux?
It's Fidelito that's getting mildly concerned. He's a one-trick (crude) pony.
Have people been suggesting corn as a source for biofuels, and I'm not aware of it? I thought we had all pretty much agreed long ago that cornoil-based biodiesel is cute for demonstrations involving frenchfry buses and wowing people into supporting the cause, but any serious implementation would depend upon algae farms, or at least one of the more prolific oil producing plants (industrial hemp, for example.)
Maybe I'm out of the loop.
The truth is that we are past peak corn. People are fighting and dying to preserve the Capt Crunch conspiracy.
Wake up, people!
The real answer is, use a range of energy technologies to solve the problem. Take a look at FutureEnergies.co.uk or the guys at Green MotorSport
I see, so *everybody* who is born from now on will starve to death, right? Because we have absolutely no arable land left to feed anyone...
It's called "Iowa". Eliminate the Iowa caucuses as the "first in the nation" that every Presidential candidate must suck up to (and convince his party to suck up to) and you'll never hear about corn-based ethanol ever again.
I expect the real reason is that diesel is perceived to be "dirty" and hybrids want to be seen as "clean".Perhaps is is more a marketing issue than anything else.
Stirlings are very interesting. I have two model sirlings. They are very effective for some applications but tend to be pretty heavy for the power they produce making them less than ideal for automotive applications.
Engineering is the art of compromise.
Not everywhere is like the land of the plenty were the supermarkets are stocked with food.
Yeah, well it would be if everybody would stop shooting at each other for a second.
What?
I think that some of the best evidence that corn ethanol is a big wasteful takpayer subsidized scam is that the plants that are being built to convert the corn to ethanol are all powered by fossil fuels.
The editorial, straight from cuba.cu website. In spanish, of course, but at least the exact words, without anything lost in translation.
If only... If we halved the population, the global ecology might have half a chance at rebounding before the current Mass Extinction Event claims too many species.
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Fidel Castro:
Great humanitarian.
Not much of a mathematician.
Shouldn't be surprised here, but no one seems to have read the article at all. His point isn't that getting ethanol from corn is going to be abandoned in favor of algae sugars or biodiesel , but that getting ethanol from corn sugar isn't going to work out, getting it from cellulose is the way to go in his mind. As several have pointed out ethanol from corn sugar is a very minor improvement, giving a small boost (on the order of 10%) over gasoline in terms of carbon emmission/mile or however you want to spin it. If a cellulosic process can be made to work this changes A LOT. And it applies equally well to sugar cane cellulose, so all you sugar fans can be happy. The goal here is to take material (stalks, leaves and the like) that would otherwise be discarded or burned and turn it into fuel. Corn is a good candidate for that because it can be grown pretty densely, and the yield of food to overall biomass is pretty small.
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I know that you can't be 100% efficient, but 95+% is too low?
95% efficiency in changing the rotational energy of the motor to electricity followed by 95% efficiency back to rotational at the wheels would be 90% efficient. The diesel engine only wishes it was so efficient. Add in that the diesel can be run in it's optiomal RPM range 100% of the time and you get a few more percentage points.
90% is better than many areas. Oh, and that's for a premium efficiency 250hp motor, I'd imagine that a train engine would be even bigger, and they increase in efficiency by size.
But, yeah, given the expense and weight for the transmission/differentials for a train gearbox; the series method makes sense. In many ways you could consider it an electric transmission.
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what about hemp as a solution? you can get a lot more ethanol out of hemp
I come from a country that has a lot of poor people. I can't imagine corn and sugar being used to run cars instead of feeding starving people. I'm glad the DoE pointed this out. Vinod Khosla and all the other entrepreneurs that have invested in this better take note and stop pushing their agenda.
Good for them. I'm glad they realized that corn isn't viable from an energy standpoint. The article mentions cellulose ethanol too, but when I researched it for debate, there really wasn't much material on the subject. It's definitely still far in the future, if it it viable at all.
/would/ actually work.
Sure, you can fool around with fuel economy standards, and maybe save 20% if you're lucky. Sure, you can use ethanol, which takes almost as much energy to grow as you get out. No, the real solution is to give up those cars. Even the tiniest british cars have way worse efficiency (in people miles per gallon) compared to a full coach bus. If they really wanted to save energy, they'd make mass transit mandatory.
Of course, that isn't going to happen, but unlike most scenarios, it
Yes, but sadly religious extremism beats common sense. It's wonderful stuff, would fix the problem nicely, and wouldn't result in hordes of drug-fueled zombies. But it's not going to get through congress. It'll have to be left to a more enlightened country to threaten the US economy with hemp-based biofuel before the congress-critters do anything about it.
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I have read, right here on Slashdot, that corn farmers do not run their tractors and other farm equipment on corn alcohol; they buy petroleum fuels, and sell the corn.
If so, that seems like pretty clear evidence that corn fuels don't make economic sense. If corn fuel is not a better deal even for the farmers who grow the corn in the first place, how can it possibly be a better deal for anyone else?
Note that Brazil uses sugar cane, which is better than corn for fuel, but still is not perfect...
If I/you can grow my/your own fuel who would profit?
Algae, in the desert? Seems like the water consumption would be a big problem; we're already terribly short of water in former-desert areas that have been converted to agriculture as it is. I'm not sure that swapping petroleum shortages for water shortages is really a great plan. I suppose it fixes some of the foreign-policy issues associated with petrodollars flowing to the Middle East, but it still puts us in a precarious position.
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Oh, the hemp guys again. Funny how they're never into the other coarse-fibre plants, like jute (used to make burlap), sisal (used to make twine), bagasse (leftover sugar cane, sometimes used to make wallboard) and kenaf (sometimes used to make paper).
Obviously, we just need some way of bypassing the middle man in all this, and converting poor people directly into fuel!
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it appears that pond scum is one of the most efficient methods of producing fuel. of coarse with capitalism the best technology doesn't always win, that is why i'm running for dictator of the whole world.
When I went to college (in Morris, Minnesota) there was an ethanol plant in town and I researched ethanol production just to provide some context to the awful smell (think rotting sileage) that hit my apartment complex when the wind was right. Even back in 1990 there was little justification to use ethanol because of the high energy use for production, the increased end-unit costs because of the need to blend at the POS (because ethanol absorbs water it needs to be mixed into the blend near the end delivery point) and the other implications for vehicles (reduced power/volume, injection issues, etc). The investment that the government has made has been misplaced. It purely subsidizes this waste instead of promoting the development of more efficient production/end product. The plant in Morris is still producing the exact same product in the exact same way, the only difference is now (16 years later) they are making money hand over fist.
Finally, corn requires a tremendous amount of water to grow. When we grew corn we didn't irrigate but big corporate farms cannot resist. The Oglalla aquifer is draining, which is a big deal. Irrigation for crops of all sorts are the primary culprit but the impact is larger -- most of the 'breadbasket' of the US is dependent in many ways on the viability of the Oglalla aquifer.
I am stunned and pleased that the DOE has stepped up and stated what should be the obvious. I hope that people following the stories realize that subsidies without measurable and definable goals have no place in our "free trade" economy (tongue in cheek there).
If there's one thing I won't stand for, it's intolerance.
Actually making ethanol from sugar cane is more than 6x more efficient than corn. it actually has a huge net gain in fuel. the factories in Brazil do an amazing job of creating power both to power the plants that make the ethanol as well as for the general public.
several of the sugar plantations in the states are considering this as well, since it is so much more effective.
You're correct. Most episodes of famine in Africa over the last, say, 30 years, were the direct result of armed conflicts, ethnical genocide and force migrations (our african dictator friend's version of Hitler's final solution). Take for example Ethiopia, there's plenty of water and soil there, still, after the conflicts caused by their incompetent socialist rulers, they underwent the dramatic famine we all witnessed in the 80's.
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Is a shame that jokes are being wasted on slashdot, when there are 3 billion other people in the world who aren't laughing. We're suffering as serious sense of humour shortage here, maybe ethanol is the answer?
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A hybrid would work very good in a city bus, with the stop and go action, if it has regenerative braking. Another advantage, at least where weather is a problem, is the ability to keep the engine running while stopped, so the heat and air keep working.
You mean Detroit and DC don't have food on the shelves?
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Future conversion processes will most likely involve bioengineered bacteria and similar processes to create biofuel from any biomass available, from foodstock leftovers to waste products to... corpses.
Sugary and cellulosic biomass is best for eth.
- Switchgrass
- Sawdust
- Beets, etc
Oily biomass is best for biodiesel.
- Vegetable oils, such as soy, hemp, rapeseed, etc. whether pre-or post consumer (these still leave the seed itself as feedstock after oils are extracted.)
- Tallow/animal fats
- Algae
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Cellulosic ethanol is a proven technology, the only issue now is ramping it up to industrial scale. Iogen and SunOpta (both Canadian biotech companies) have already built pilot plants, and are selecting sites to build industrial scale plants (In Iogen's case, they're contemplating offers from the US, Canada, and European countries to host the plant, which would produce 50 million+ gallons of ethanol a year.)
The great thing about sugarcane and cellulosic ethanol production is they don't require outside power to run, unlike corn ethanol plants. They take a byproduct of the production process and use it for fuel.
Light a fire for a man and he'll be warm for a day. Light a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
As a native Iowan, and as someone who has grown up on a rural farm, I am surprised at the vast dismissal of ethanol based fuel here.
It may not be perfect, but nothing is. Its a hell of a lot better than traditional based fuel. I've been using it in my car for years. I don't use anything but ethanol. It's the only alternative fuel choice we have in the midwest.
Whatever the government is saying, Ethanol IS big business. Ethanol plants are increasing in number and are receiving a lot of money in the form of grants... from SOMEWHERE. I assumed it was our own government, but if they're saying Ethanol is not the future then why are they giving us money?
The claims that our corn should be spent towards food may be true, it might not be. In either case, it is invalid because our corn doesn't *directly* go towards human consumption..... the corn we grow (at least here in Northwest Iowa) gets used mostly in livestock feed. (We just eat the animals that eat our corn.) Some of our corn does get shipped off to other countries, which I imagine use it for human consumption. But our corn here? For the most part, we're not eating it.
And, even if we were, huge stores of our crops get wasted every year... growing old and moldy in grain bins and elevators. It doesn't get used. It's not our fault, its the current agriculture system. Why shouldn't the farmer have an alternative to sell his corn to a ethanol plant as a alternative? The farmer gets a choice to sell to a different market... and a more environmentally friendly choice at that.
I'm all for ethanol and every other alternative choice because there are just too few alternative choices to begin with.
Has anyone conducted a study to determine the net BTUs from converting corn into ethanol? I mean, it must take an awful lot of energy to clear the fields, plant the seeds, add fertilizer, pump the water, reap the crop, sort the seed from the chafe, distill the usable stuff, dispose of the waste, and voila -- E85. To my thinking, we must use a lot of energy in the process. What's the net?
It's like saying that electric vehicles don't pollute. Yeah, right. If you assume that generating electricity is completely non-polluting. Recent studies show that E85 might, ahem MIGHT supplant 5% of our foreign oil imports. How much oil will be used in producing that E85?
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Look, corn isn't the most efficient method of producing ethanol by a long shot. But that it takes more energy to produce simply isn't true.
This used to be true when talking about old inefficient ethanol plants. Today's corn ethanol production sees a net gain in energy. It's roughly a 1:1.3 ratio of BTUs in to BTUs out. These are well substantiated and accepted numbers. That paper put out by Berkley that everyone uses to spout that old myth wasn't accurate. It made a lot of assumptions to the low end of crop production, and efficiency, but high assumptions for fossil fuel based fertilizers and diesel farm equipment. It was set up to make corn ethanol look worse than it was, and quickly moved towards an anti agribusiness bias.
I realize that 1:1.3 is barely more, but consider that the goal isn't so much to remove our dependence on fossil fuels, but foreign oil. Natual gas and coal are what fire the distilleries, not oil. So essentially, when using corn based ethanol, we are using coal, natual gas, and a little solar energy to fuel our vehicles. I'm OK with that for now. We have a lot of it. Eventually, other better crops will supplement and perhaps replace corn. The distilleries don't really have to do a lot of retrofitting and changing to take new sources of carbohydrate.
Hey dude, you can't burn all the grass to run your cars, what we gonna smoke then?
Excuse me, but please get off my Pennisetum Clandestinum, eh!
Nothing is foolproof because fools are so ingenious.
The unstated point of the whole question of "alternative" fuels probably has something to do with "global warming" (which probably IS happening) and the underlying assumption that we human critters have a gnat's-ass of influence on said warming (which we do - have a gnat's-ass worth of input, i.e. not much.) Google "The Great Global Warming Swindle" for some interesting links.
You can choose a "side", but think about it a bit first.
This issue is a bit more complicated than you think.
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Dear Fidel that would only make 3 million people fat and happy what does that cause breading then there would be 6 million starving people.
3 million people could grow there own damn food if they expect to eat.
He is ignorant, but you sort of are too if you think that we somehow can only do one thing or the other with corn. The US is practically a wasteland of unused land. More to the point, however, is that there's plenty of food in the world to feed everyone. It's just that not everyone is getting it.
If you're starving, it's not because they're using corn to power a truck.
And why the fuck do we care what Castro says? He's a communist dictator, a criminal, and hopefully he'll be dead soon.
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We could airdrop tons of corn on that idiotfuck's country and it wouldn't take him 60 seconds to find a way to complain about it. Meanwhile, I don't think anyone in Cuba is feeling oppressed due to a lack of maize.
I figure that people burning enough "hemp" don't really care about where auto fuel comes from, or whether they have any fuel for that matter.
"Also, I never said I was from Staten Island. You did. I never said I was the girl in that picture either, you did." - by StarKruzr (74642) on Thursday March 29, @06:16PM (#18536049)
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I never said you were a girl, YOU did, lol! Here is the posting where you did:
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=227475&cid=184 94155
You are a guy, or look like one, sorry to tell you, lol... NOT A WOMAN, even though you said you were, lol! You surely act like one, rotflmao.
More typical arstechnica forums members online lies, now from this nut StarKruzr (from Jeremy Reimer's disciple, lol, he gets caught in lies like Jeremy Reimer: The ULTIMATE liar, pretending to be some computer expert, yet has no degrees in computer science, nor even A+ or MSCE certs, or years if not decades of professional experience in this field in the trenches), that starts up crap with everyone?
StarKruzr is not a woman though (but sure is a liar, another Jeremy Reimer/Jay Little (arstechnica morons who operate the same way and get caught everytime) style liar, lol, & like they, got his ass beat in thru his own dishonesties) and starLOSER is from Staten Island NY, and that is him in the photo below and his name's jarett.
You are such a liar, you just will not stop will you? StarKruzr from Staten Island?? You said it on other forums.
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On your being starkruzr and from Staten Island?
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That's from this site -> http://www.geekculture.com/ultimatebb/Forum11/HTML
You're from staten island and being named Jarrett, we already know this is your photo at this point in the url below, and if you note it's name? You see Jarett in that photo name. Again: You are a guy, or look like one, sorry to tell you, lol... NOT A WOMAN, even though you said you were, lol! You surely act like one, rotflmao.
http://gallery.r3v3ng.net/albums/BoardyPhotos/jare tt_katey_maria.jpg [r3v3ng.net]
Though it may come as a shock to you, considering your pud's probably too tiny to see, lol, you probably THINK you are a woman, lol! But, you are a guy, or a liar... lol!
AND THIS THREAD HERE SHOWS YOU ARE MATCHING AN EMAIL TO YOUR NAME starkruzr, to jarett
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Man, You're a TOTAL liar starLOSER, who's been caught, and the arstechnica member trend and typical pattern continues, lol, BUSTED as a liar.
Are you proud of this?
Because if so, do not consider politics as a career. ROTFLMAO!
If you do, I am talking to the next Richard Nixon, and lol, certainly NOT George Washington ("I cannot tell a lie") lol... except you are chopping down your credibility faster than George Washington could whack down his cherry tree, & your own lies are the axe, lol!
Man, you are TOO easy to see through & far too easy to prove you are a liar.
What a waste of time, I am dealing with a total liar! Another dishonorable arstechnica coward, oh well, typical of them!
"I think it's HILARIOUS to harass YOU online. Just you. Only you." - by StarKruzr (74642) on Friday March 30, @12:21AM (#18539431)
One who thinks it's cool to harass others online, by putting down others as well who have created decent tools for others to use like myspace & apk's registry tool program, as you see above.
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anything that uses less fertilizer than corn is good. How much oil is needed by Monsanto and DuPont to produce their fertilizers and corn seeds? It's absurd.
The oil we think we're taking away by switching to biodiesel will end up being used to produce fertilizers, genetically modified seeds, and similar farming requirements. The end consumer won't notice the swap but will ultimately feel good thinking they're not harming the environment as they're stuck in rush hour traffic sipping on a 32 oz Starbucks beverage in their SUV.
I run pretty well on corn liquor so I'm sure cars will run fine. The hardest part is wasting it on the car. Might be a good way to get people to conserve. You got your choice drink it or run your car on it. Might force some people to ride bikes.
Jesus was a compassionate social conservative who called individuals to sin no more.
What the GP is saying is that we are fast approaching or have exceeded the sustainable population limits of the planet. You are being deliberately obtuse in suggesting that everyone born from now on will starve to death. There is, however, a growing population base that lives in regions subject to famine. These are the people who will face starvation. The only reason the west has the ability to avoid these conditions is because it also has the political and economic clout enabling imports to cover any shortages. So third world populations are doing the starving for us.
The reality is that the affluent western lifestyle is unsustainable 90+th percentile standard of living, which cannot be shared at current population levels. This will become particularly obvious when the increasing energy demands of the emerging middle class from China, India et. al. begin to approach supply limits.
It is unlikely that fossil fuels alone will sustain the next 50 years of projected growth in energy demand, and just as unlikely that adding the (agriculture based, fossil fuel subisidsed) biofuels industry to this will help much either. Something will have to give and unfortuately, in the short term, it will probably be the remaining forrested land area that will be sacrificed. In the long term, expect to see some starvation in the western world too, particularly during extreme drought conditions, as the capacity of normally arable land is adversely limited.
Perhaps you don't recall what was the Dust Bowl of the 1930's? Be assured that we will see something like it again at some point. Imagine the economic devastation when both food and fuel is dependent on agriculture.
No. That's comes after World War II. I wish I was being sarcastic. We spend way too much time talking about the Civil War to leave room for discussing any of those icky parts of history where America might've done something controversial like the Bay of Pigs invasion or the Vietnam War. (At least, that was my experience growing up in a former Confederate state.)
We're just lucky to get a very small warning about McCarthyism and some coverage of the Civil Rights movement. All US history south of our borders post-Spanish-American War is pretty much not taught in high school -- especially anything critical of our actions during the Cold War. Too much of what is going on today can't be understood if your knowledge of world events pretty much ends at WW2. Why the US's enemies are enemies and why many of our allies who don't share our values at all are allies is pretty much a mystery to the vast majority of the electorate.
It gets me depressed about the future every time I think about it.
If it's for-profit but free, you're not the customer -- you're the product (e.g., the Slashdot Beta's "audience").
It's not the supply of food that's the problem. It's the distribution that's letting people starve. There's plenty of supply.
My Mercedes turbodiesel runs great on pure corn oil. :)
All this talk about corn is making me hungry. I better eat up quick before its all gone!
It is pathetic how seriously you take the internets. It really is.
Are your cheeks burning yet? You might not be smart enough to know WHY you should be embarrassed, I'll grant that.
Poor little boy who never grew up.
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Never complain about history classes. Not only is said that "history is written by the victors", but it is heavily culturally based. I'm not talking about propaganda, just about the focus that you get in school. Now, I have read much more about American history on slashdot than I had at school. I, however, got fed the whole creation of the European Union with all its boring treaties and whatnot. Americans probably get that as a summary "The EU was created in as the ECSC in 1951 and evolved (or Intelligently Designed) from there on". My contemporary history consisted mainly of EU blah-blah, and at least I understand my part of the world thanks to it.
Overlaps are probably in history are the things that happened a real long time ago: pre-historic times, the Egyptians, the Greeks, the Romans. The sole exception would be World War II, which still differs from content. Europeans get the mantra "look how, horrible, horrible, horrible, it was... let's never do that again", Americans get the mantra "Evil Hilter! We, heroes, had to get over there to save the World".
Geography is the same: we got to learn the name of every country of the world and their capital, plus the internal structure of our own country", you do the same (I hope)... The internal structure is just different ;-) I expect a Frenchman to know about his Departements, a German to know about his Bunderlander and an American to know about his states. I don't know them, because I'm neither. So don't ask me what the capital of Utah is. I don't know... If you're an American, you should though.
Ahhh...the great dumpster continuum. Many a free computer will be found there. -- sowth (748135)
You mean he's still alive?.... huh. Cool.
And because the problem with starvation isn't one of not being able to grow enough food, it is one of politics. The nations with massive amounts of starvation are basically all ones with really screwed up governments. Take Zimbabwe. It used to be called "The bread basket of Africa," and was a large net exporter of food. However now due to Mugwabe's extreme mismanagement and tyrannical policies, they are a net importer of food and have starving people.
We have the technology and the resources to grow plenty of food. The problem is getting it to those that need it. It isn't like you just drop it in a mailbox and send it off, there are real issues to contend with. The opening scene in Blackhawk Down? An accurate portrayal of the kind of thing that really happens.
If you've got a solution to that, let's here it. If not then please back off of the self-righteous BS ok? The problems of the world are quite not easy to fix.
> There's no such thing as U.S. mandated worldwide embargo....The embargo applies only to American companies
You forgot to mention that there are U.S. mandated restrictions to foreing companies doing business in the U.S. market if they also do business in cuba
I should know, my employer (in Spain) was escared out of a contract for a company, because that potential client wanted support in cuba, and we could be dropped by our other U.S. based clients
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevy_Volt
This car would be the equivalent of a diesel-electric locomotive.
Well, my son just informed me the other day about the U.S. Civil War being all about slavery... funny, I thought that four states separated from the union before Lincoln was even elected, and that many northern new england states had threatened to do the same before the first southern states did, and that it was pretty much agreed upon that those states had the right to do so... Until one of them attempted to clear out a foreign military base... But hey, that's just me.
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For large motors, it's hard to incorporate discrete gears. On a gear change where the ratios are significantly different, the clutch/transmission would not be able to absorb the energy dissipated unless it's very large. So either the diameter of the clutch plate must be enormous, or the ratios must be very close. Continuously variable gearing is also problematic due to heat dissipation, unless the power conversion is _very_ efficient. Diesel-electric coupling is a pretty good solution for large motors, since no gear changes are needed.
Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. - Voltaire
Indeed. Hemp based fuel is the future. http://www.google.co.il/search?hl=iw&q=hemp+fuel&b tnG=%D7%97%D7%99%D7%A4%D7%95%D7%A9+%D7%91-Google&m eta=
ludicrous law has to go
The food arguement makes no sense. Why is corn suddenly the most important food, as if we can only eat corn and drink corn syrup?
That's ridiculous. In fact, we have so much corn that theres corn syrup in everything, and this Fidel is telling us we should put more corn syrup in our food? Fidel can drink his coke, his pepsi, and enjoy his corn syrup. I'd prefer that stuff in my car, or fueling our economy.
3 billion people won't starve, we have no shortage of food, never had a shortage of food, we have shortages of clean water and education but free food is everywhere.So this arguement that we need our corn syrup, for the sake of starving children, I think is utterly ridiculous, it's like telling us we need junk food in the school cafeterias, because our kids would starve if they didnt have their daily supply of junkfood. Corn is the primary ingredient in all junk foods.
I think corn is the best choice to fuel our cars. It's the best choice because corn syrup and all those corn products, are designed for cars, not people. These products were made in a lab, why don't we just start drinking gasoline and then complain that all our food has gas in it and we can't disrupt that?
I think it would be better for the markets and for our health to make corn into fuel, and bring sugar back as a sweetener. I don't think the food industry depends on corn. The food industry goes in whichever direction is cheapest, because they just want sales. They'd sell piss if it were cheaper than cornsyrup and sweeter. The point is, if the prices of corn goes up, the food industry will either go back to sugar, or invent something else. The farmers would benefit the most because if the price of corn syrup goes up, it helps the farmers. If the price of sugar goes up, it helps the farmers. If the food industry thinks it's too expensive then they'll stop using sugar and corn syrup and use some of the alternative sweetners. So it would be diet coke instead of coke, so what?
The US is the #1 country for corn crops, we should use our excess corn to create fuel. Why do you want to pay more to get it from Brazil? And what exactly are we going to do with the excess corn if we don't use it as fuel?
Can anyone give me a valid reason why we MUST eat corn?
Why should the corn industry care how we consume it as long as we buy it and keep paying higher prices for it?
I'd think ethanol is better for the corn industry. Why? Because more people would be buying corn. The alternative, is to just put corn syrup in drinking water and force everyone to drink it.
Which do you prefer?
I'd prefer we put it in our cars. I'm not concerned about American eating habits, we have shitty eating habits to begin with. We should focus more on how we can turn our excess foods into cash. If we can turn corn into cash, thats perfect. I don't care what we do with it, I don't care if we turn it into syrup and put it into our cars instead of our bodies, what difference does it make to you and me where the fuel is used or how it's used? If we own corn stock what difference does it make to us how the stock rises or falls?
I honestly could care less as long as the corn becomes the cash. So the first thing we have to get rid of, is this irrational food fetishism, where we think we must eat certain crops and not others. We need to diversify our eating habits.
Also, the fact that corn is genetically engineered, shouldnt we use our genetically engineered crops in our cars? Or would you rather eat it?
The water in Africa is not clean and the food is not cheap.
There is food, but if people are starving, we are the cause of that. Who do you think was greedy? Which country is the richest?
Africa is practically a tropic environment, it has more food than anywhere. Food is not the problem. Water and disease is more of a problem.
And when we speak of dictators, there was no such thing s a dictator, that was invented in the west, and so was genocide.
There is always food. People could eat ants, or other insects, worms, or raise chickens and eat other grains like wheat which grow better than corn.
Why is corn so important that you want to force everyone to eat it?
The real answer to the "future of bio fuels" is not to use as much as we use now. There is no magic thing that will make the problem of resource depletion go away. The stark truth is we've used more than we had in the first place and now we're basically fucked if we go on this way. You can shift the problem about at a huge cost to all, or radically change lifestyles.
I don't mean go and buy a goat though: I mean we need to reorganise cities and suburbs so that people stay in their local area to get as much as possible of what they need(shops, work, socialising etc). This will mean much less car use. And in the states, they could get as efficient as Europe had to in the 70s and get used to higher fuel prices as has happened in Europe too, and that would already reduce the amount needed.
I think for now the only biofuel that's actually "5-star green" is the recycling of biomass, plant waste etc to produce very limited transport - like EU nordic countries for example. Latest issue of "The Ecologist" has an in-depth section on the US's bio fuel plans and it's current and potential effects, and proposing bio-gas as the only acceptable solution that's viable now (yes microbes may be viable one day - let's see that research money). I think sweden has a bus service running on this.
Funny, I grew up in a blue state (specifically, a university town in Upstate New York) and I was lead to believe that the Soviet Union was a largely innocent country provoked into the cold war by overzealous imperialistic hotheads, and how the Korean War was morally equivalent to the Vietnam war. It was only when I got to college and started reading on my own that I learned about the Berlin Airlift, Prague Spring and other events that the other side did.
I think that you'll find that your experiences are not as pervasive as you might think. (Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that they are uncommon either)
But try convincing all his left wing fanboys in the west of that. Its amazing how thick the blinkers on socialists can be and how quickly they get put on when it comes to realising one of their own perhaps isn't the golden boy everyone thought.
Actually, I (American) never learned about the EU in high school or college history/geography at all. I never even heard of it until several years later. Also, most Americans could guess the capital of Utah because it is the only city in Utah they ever heard of (Salt Lake City), but I bet most couldn't tell you the capital of Washington. In fact, I bet most recent high school graduates in California couldn't tell you what the capital of California is.
I know, typical comment about how uneducated we Americans are, followed by typical comment about how, no matter how dumb we are, Californians are even dumber than the rest of us.
Diesel electric locos exist simply because of the difficulty of building a mechanical transmission for them. The contortions the driveshafts and gearing would have to make from engine to wheels would be horrendous, not to mention the sort of gearbox required would have to be so robust that the expense wouldn't be worth it. This is why electric and hydraulic transmission is used on locos , not for fuel efficiency reasons. In fact you lose quite a bit of efficiency converting from rotary to electric then back to rotary power again. Hydraulic transmissions are a bit more efficient I believe but if they spring a leak you're screwed plus they're not suitable for high speeds.
...but it would weigh the same as a hummer. Batteries are *heavy*.
Another suitable crop is known as High-Energy, Multi-use Plant. It grows efficiently, is drought tolerant and produces a wide range of industrially useful materials for food, feed and fiber, including energy-dense oils and resins.
Unfortunately, The Man doesn't want people to grow High-Energy, Multi-use Plant, for some reason...
The man who does not read good books has no advantage over the man who cannot read them. - Mark Twain
Actually it was George W. Bush's State of the Union Address that advocated switchgrass. You can listen to the National Public Radio "All things considered" interview at Switch Grass: Alternative Energy Source?, which has the synopsis
Also read the ABC News article http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Business/story?id=15667
There is no future that would allow everyone on this planet to drive around at will, fly around at will, eat strawberries flewn around the globe and tons of meat at will at the same cost and with equal or less ecological impact as/than now.
This is simply not possible, mathematically. Either we want to utilize some renewable energy, then the sheer area of land needed to grow the apropriate crop would not be ecologically acceptable. Or we find a better and cheaper way to exploit still more fossile energy: that would further increase the amount of CO2 released to the atmosphere. Finally, even with some "magic" endless form of energy the future looks dim: if e.g. fusion or something similar would finally work then the cheap and endless supply of energy would make it possible to sustain an even larger number of people and give them the means to drive around at will, fly around at will, eat strawberries flewn around the globe and meat at will which would in turn indirectly lead to the exploitation and destruction of an even bigger part of the environment (all these people living in luxury need natural resources, produce waste, produce toxic substances, need their own houses, roads etc.)
So, in order for people living on this planet without eating it up, destroying most of their fellow species, and totally covering it with artefacts and trash at some point, the only chance really is that energy gets more expensive and more precious. The only way to prevent utter destruction is that energy is costly and not available to everyone in huge quantities.
As far as I can see, with a more long term vision of "future", nothing can be the future except precious, expensive energy.
Im actually still waiting for the first "cornholing" joke...
Nowadays? The Irish Potato Famine wouldn't have been a famine but for British economic theory. It was so absurd that famine relief could only be given by the British authorities as pay for "work", hence the construction of "famine roads" and the workhouses.
Absolutely disgraceful, and it is a pity more people don't appreciate the same thing continues to happen today; local crop failure but food in the markets that locals have no money to buy it with.
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How to make yourself unpopular on a US based system...
However, seriously, between 1845 and 1849 Ireland had successive years of record harvests, and in each year exported huge amounts of grain. What's famous about those years? Yes, that's the Great Famine. People worked all day producing wheat which they couldn't afford to buy, so it was exported and they starved. There was no shortage of food in Ireland during the famine; there was a shortage of food ordinary Irish people could afford to buy. Similarly, in the Ethiopian famine of the mid 1980s which led to the formation of Live Aid, Ethiopia - so plagued with drought that it could not feed its people - was exporting so many water melons to Europe that it could afford to buy helicopter gunships with the proceeds. Again, people starved not because there was no food, but because they could not afford the food that was plentiful.
The world's agricultural system is at full stretch at present producing enough food for (most of) the world's population. But our machines consume far more calories than we do ourselves. So if we switch our machines from consuming fossil fuels to consuming bio-fuels, then all the worlds agricultural land put together is not enough.
One of the inevitable consequences of capitalism is that it distributes scarce goods inequitably. In a drought, the poor go thirsty while the rich water their golf courses. In a famine, the poor starve while the rich put biodiesel into their SUVs. This flies in the face of every system of ethics we know, and yet it is the inevitable consequence of capitalism. Ghandi said 'the earth produces enough for everyone's need, but not enough for everyone's greed'. Personally, I think he was an optimist; but nevertheless, one person's biodiesel is - inevitably - another person's hunger.
I'm old enough to remember when discussions on Slashdot were well informed.
Question for you, how old are you?
When I learned about the EU in high school, it was in my current affairs class because I was in high school when the Treaty of Maastricht was signed. (And before anybody says anything, yes I know that the EU had its beginnings decades earlier...)
Here's another link for you: Motor efficiency by load.
.2), We're loosing ~8% over it's max, which is 93-94% efficiency. Around 86% efficient.
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Sorry about the pdf format, couldn't really find it elsewhere.
Taking a 'Best Case' 75-100 hp motor, at 20% load(15hp) would be 95% as efficient as at full load. We're down to about 90% efficient. Still pretty good. If we drop to a more realistic econobox level motor, 30-60 hp(6 hp at
One oddball thing: the 75HP motor is likely to be just as efficient in the 30-60 hp range than the one operating at full load. It started higher, and hasn't really started to loose efficiency yet.
Cars run over a much wider load range, and typically operated at between 20 and 40 percent of max load.
That's for a gasoline engine. Due to a gasoline engine's power factors, in order to give quick starts you have to massivly overpower it. Also, a gasoline engine is rated at it's maximum horsepower. A electric is rated at it's highest sustainable horsepower. Please not that the efficiency scale goes beyond 100%. It's perfectly possible to overdrive an electric motor quite a bit. While the chart only goes to 120%, it's possible to go way beyond that for short periods. Heck, run air through the motor to keep it cool you can raise the max sustained horsepower. Now where would I get air pressure at 75mph...
With the combination of 100% torque at 0 rpm and overdrive capabilities, the conventional sizing rule of thumb for people who convert cars to electric(sorry, no link atm) is to get comparable performance you need an electric motor of 1/3-1/2 the horsepower of the gasoline engine. So you size it to be able to sustain the car at 75-80 mph(use overdrive to get there), that puts your 20% level around 25 mph. You remain more than 80% efficient through the whole range.
Besides, if you're hanging around 25 mph for extended times, odds are you're not going to stress a 150-300 mile range.
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It's true I tell you, feller at work's next door neighbour read it in the paper.
The use of food for fuel production is a blatant immorality and illustrates the complete disregard of common sense by the US government in the face of political and industrial need. It further illustrates the reason not to allow environmental emotion to stampede us into badly thought out "solutions" to environmental problems.
Farmers have been the foundation of civilization for 10,000 years because of their production of surplus food stocks; but now they seem to have decided, with government help, that that position is no longer sufficiently important to them and like everyone in our society today, the pursuit of the very last buck is the only honorable and "smart" occupation for them too.
Let me point out that this problem actually occurred previously in the history of America. In the early years, alcohol production led to shortages of grain for bread. And during the American Civil War, The southern states had to outlaw the use of grain for alcohol production due to shortages of grain. This shows that, even in a time of war, farmers and distillers will put profit ahead of bread for the population.
Those who refuse to learn from history are condemned to repeat it." George Santayana.E Proelio Veritas.
Exactly the reason why I never buy anything from CITGO.
That controlled environment you refer to is also known as the modern farm (ok, different techniques, same principle). All domesticated cultivars would be unable to outcompete wild flora, but somehow they always manage to make enough food to feed the whole world. Why would this be different when is is about wet farming instead of land-based?
A system of concrete ponds/gullies is easy enough to clean once in a while, and if you cover it with polyethene tunnels, you could enrich the CO2 content for faster growing and harvest fresh water (condensate from the tunnelwalls) as a byproduct. In the end it doesn't matter that much what variety is the most prolific: it matters that your CO2 is converted into biomass that is harvestable.
The next step is to extract the primary oil content for the biodiesel, and the rest (cellwalls, proteins, sugars) can be converted to more diesel-like fuel and gas with a proces like Thermal Depolyremisation or Thermal Conversion (Proces). That also recylces the anorganic content (algae/plants nutrients), that you can feed back in to the algae ponds or sell to other farms.
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cane sugar tastes better, that's why its a more favorable source of commodity sugar. but sugar beats can grow where corn doesn't do as well.
Biofuels only 'work' as a concept if you're one that is reflexively opposed to fossil fuels in the first place.
We already have serious issues of deforestation in the Amazon due to agriculture - does anyone think that will DECREASE if the value of sugar cane is increased by world demand for biofuel?
Further, in the US we already have problems with overtillage, exhaustion of the soil, loss of topsoil, and excessive pesticide use. Again, does anyone think that the widespread use of biofuel will help any of those situations? Particularly (regarding pesticides) when the corn isn't going to be consumed by anyone, so there is no food-quality issue to restrict the severity and frequency of pesticide use?
No, I'm thinking at some point we're going to look back and see biofuel (from grown crops) as a stupid, dead-end choice that wasted a lot of time & money.
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My wife doesn't like sad movies. When we were watching Peter Jackson's King Kong, right about the point where the ape is spinning on the frozen pond in Central Park, and the army is setting-up, she asks, "Nothing bad happens to him, right?" I didn't know that she didn't know how King Kong ends. So that's where we stopped it. As far as she knows, King Kong ends with a happy beastie butt-skating in Central Park.
If you do that same thing with U.S. History stopping at WWII, we look pretty decent.
Censorship is telling a man he can't have a steak just because a baby can't chew it. --Mark Twain
Today, the Washington Post is featuring a article from President Lula addressing this issue. Here is the link:
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What sort of history books have you been reading? Seriously, neither do we look pretty decent up to WWII, but the years afterwards are in many ways the same sort of shit that has been happening all throughout US history. Its just that the players and different.
Frankly, if anything the US is actually more enlightened after WWII than it was before. Take Abu Ghraib - a very horrible and shameful scandal. But that was nothing compared to the lynching of blacks in the south, or the rape and murder of Indians in the old west. Any serious student of US history would be able to rattle on many more examples.
Sorry, I was only thinking about international affairs. Internally, our track record isn't as good, for people (not just identifiable minorities, but all non-wealthy) or for the environment.
Censorship is telling a man he can't have a steak just because a baby can't chew it. --Mark Twain
There is plenty of food to go around, and there almost always has been. Starving people are not starving because of a lack of food, they are starving because the food never gets to them (usually rotting away in some government surplus warehouse), either due to corruption, negligence, crappy transportation, lack of caring, or some combination thereof.
While food supply is surely a concern, energy supply is no less a concern, unless we want to go back to the dark ages. Saying we should sacrifice one or the other is idiotic. There is a happy medium.
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Fair enough, but I'm not sure if I'd agree with you there either. On international affairs, you may wish to read about William Walker (whose defeat is a national holiday in many Central American countries), as well as other meddlings in Latin America in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. The US's only saving grace is that overthrowing the government of a bunch of countries compares nothing to the partion of Africa by the European powers.
And on the environment, you might be surprised to know that pretty much every tree east of the Mississippi was cut down before 1850. The original flag for New England from colonial times, had an evergreen tree because New England was entirely coniferous forest when the Europeans first arrived. The foliage that New England is so famous for are pretty much entirely replanted trees.
Ethanol, burned to produce an equal amount of energy to a specific amount of octane is going to produce an equal amount of carbon dioxide. The whole motivation to use ethanol as fuel is completely misguided. (Or a not so clever ploy.)
...equalised by mols of CO2:
Heats of combustion of Ethanol vs n-Octane from my 1989 CRC Handbook (in kilogram calories per gram molecular weight):
Ethanol: 326.68 (~327 kcal/mol ~= 1367 kJ/mol)
n-Octane: 1302.7 (~1303 kcal/mol ~= 5450 kJ/mol)
Complete combustion reactions:
Ethanol: C2H5OH + 3 O2 = 2 CO2 + 3 H2O (-1367 kJ/mol)
Octane: 2 C8H18 + 25 O2 = 18 H2O + 16 CO2 (-5450 kJ/mol)
Ethanol: 8 C2H5OH + 24 O2 = 24 H2O + 16 CO2 (-10.9 MJ)
Octane: 2 C8H18 + 25 O2 = 18 H2O + 16 CO2 (-10.9 MJ)
So, you can see that to produce equal amounts of energy by combustion of either fuel, one must produce equal amounts of carbon dioxide.
In fact, ethanol from corn will produce more carbon dioxide overall, as the carbon dioxide produced by fermentation of corn to produce ethanol will more than offset the benefits of its relatively clean combustion.
Burning ethanol does nothing to reduce greenhouse gas emissions. It is a convenient way for the petrochemical industry to prolong its inevitable death. A number of petro stations in Canada have been selling gasoline with up to 15% by volume ethanol for decades now (Sunoco in particular).
Granted, gasoline is of course not pure n-Octane, and contains lots of other crap. Its mostly the toluenes and related aromatics that give gasoline its smell, pure octanes have very little aroma, slightly minty if anything.
Combustion of gasoline is less likely to be complete, so burning ethanol is going to be cleaner in terms of emissions and will produce fewer toxic byproducts of combustion, but will do NOTHING WHATSOEVER to help global warming. I find it amusing how easily the public and businesses are fooled.
Now, what does make some sense to me is to produce biodiesel from rapeseed (canola) or hempseed (marijuana), in terms of ease of production and sustainability, but again, burning these fuels for energy is not going to help global warming, the same amount of CO2 will be produced.
The answer obviously is CANDU nuclear reactors and electric/flywheel vehicles, but this would destroy the profits of many powerful corporations, and so will not happen under democratic capitalism. The market indices must never decrease, regardless of the cost, even if that cost is the future of humanity. We are on a path to self destruction and violent revolution is the only way out, but I fear that will never happen.
The price of corn has nothing to do with it, feeding the poor has nothing to do with it, its all about protecting the financial interests of those in control. The future of man be damned.
Sleep well.
For the next harvest it looks as though central planning will lead to reduced soy and cotton in favor of corn: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/30/business/30wire- corn.html. Funny how the State of the Union Speech
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Biofuels rob the ground of area that can be used for food, it puts more pollutants into the water system, and creates large scale erosion problems. If weather is bad, we have fuel shortages as well as high prices. Even this super algae will demand water supplies that should be used for other necessary things.
Biofuels are a big disaster in waiting.
There are farmers that would rather plow under their healthy crops than sell it unprofitably.
There are farmers that would rather grow illegal crops for drug production than sell current unprofitable food researves to be given to countries (that make NO efforts on population control or social resposibility).
Farmers in starving countries are going bankrupt from the free food given to the country so future food supply in that country is greatly harmed.
More free food to starving countries that have no population control simply equals more starving babies and children... a never ending story of starvation and poverty for both farmers and poverty stricken countries.
BioFuels helps the War against Drugs and fighting poverty world-wide.
You mean the war of northern aggression don't you?
Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.........
The problem, of course, is that when you have millions of people fighting over something, some of them are fighting for different reasons. It's very hard for people to grasp, but there it is. Also, if I remember my history right, South Carolina seceded after Lincon was elected, but before he was president (and it looks like Wikipedia also disagrees with you).
As near as I can tell (and it looks like I know more about it than you) the Civil War was fought because the South wanted to preserve the rights of its states and it way of life (read: slavery) and the North wanted a whole country, not just part of it. The North wasn't fighting to end slavery, it was fighting to maintain a unified, powerful country (but that doesn't sound nearly as heroic). Partway through the war, though, they realized that by freeing slaves they could gain additional troops and destroy southern morale. (Lincoln was also anti-slavery, but he didn't want to alienate the South completely at first).
Anyway, my point is that your son is at least as informed about the issue as you are. Wikipedia has some good article about it, and there should be plenty of books at your local library.
You are reading a copy of my copyrighted post.
You can't eat the kind of corn they're using to make fuel. It isn't meant for human consumption, its for animals. Our digestive systems don't appreciate it. The only way it could feed humans is indirectly via corn-fed animals, who we're already feeding well. Therefore, Castro is way off mark by saying its a waste of food that could feed billions of people. Also, the amount of corn produced couldn't feed billions anyways even if edible.
And, even if there was enough inedible corn produced to feed a billion, the quantity of feed needed to stuff the animals in order to feed humans could never come close to feeding the quantity of people he expects it to. There is an inefficiency, except in chicken production, in most stock animals whereby they consume more than they produce in edible flesh.
However, you could consider that the amount of energy, oil, money, land and effort spent on producing bio fuel may be better spent producing food that could be consumed by humans. Indirectly, he may be correct. Though, I doubt we could ever feed the entire world and still make money.
Worth noting is this ancient Chinese proverb, "Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime."
The truth of the matter is, if people are starving, we need to sell them seeds and teach them how to farm if we want to save them. We'll never be able to send them enough food to meet all their population's needs, wherever they may be.
This might come as an ironic for some, but the french carmakers PSA (peugeot-citroen), have already presented an prototype diesel-hybrid engine to fit their current C4 series of cars and have a scheduled release date of 2010 for a massmarket launch (since citroen's market strategy has always focused on being very affordable for the average consumer, while still introducing new/experimental tech, they claim it will take them two years to perfect the manufacturing process in order to keep the costs low enough to still fit their average market demoghrapics), meanwhile its sister company peugeot has released a new workhorse van wich comes factory ready to run on B30 (30% biodiesel blend) without any modifications or extra maintenance expenses).
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,wich is 5/3 to twice the size of an average 3 door car over here.
oh and they claim to be expecting something around 88mpg out of it in urban driving (on the highway its an average diesel), google c4 hybrid for more details on it
Basicly yeah, its being worked on
P.S.:I read a post on a us car site claiming that "the c4 is an average sized european 3 doors car",as an european, and 2 generation citroen driver I have to clarifiy this, the c4 is a bigassed 3 to 5 door car, its about the size of a prius (a bit less but not much)
No, its not a free market and if it was, nobody would have to make this choice. The decision of "to use corn for fuel or food" would be made naturally and the best possible outcome would occur without any government intervention. Our Government can't fix this problem.. why can't they just let us decide whats fuel?
Where these bureaucrats think they get the authority to come out and say.. "Oh.. Don't worry, we know whats best for you." I'll never know.
Bringing liberty to the masses. - http://freetalklive.com/
I'm an American. I work for a university, so live in a university town. One of the most intelligent guys I have met here never went to college; he moved here when his highschool girlfriend came to college here and stayed after they broke up. Occasionally at parties, if it comes out that he isn't in school and never attended college, some asshat will make some comment about it (interestingly, my friend claims this is much more likely to be a philosophy grad student than anything else). My friend's favorite thing to do is challenge said asshat to name all 50 states. I have seen this happen several times over the last few years; the closest I saw anyone come was something like 45. It's priceless when my "uneducated" friend then rattles off the ones they couldn't come up with. Even better is if someone asks him why he knows them so well. "I've been there." It's a classic example of theoretical vs. practical education.
And oddly enough, I have been to Washington, and do know the capital, even though I haven't actually been to Olympia. I have never been to California, and couldn't remember what the capital was (Sacramento). Short point on a long story, I suspect that most Americans simply don't know about geography b/c they haven't seen much of it. Once you've been there, you tend to remember.
...sometimes, in order to hurt someone very badly, you have to tell that person terrible lies. - PA
I personaly think that corn (may have to have some slight genetic modification) might be the right way to go. I mean we have a whole province in canada that prettymich all they do is grow it. And let me tell you...thats alot of corn
-Ours is the wisdom of Solomon, the magic of Merlyn, the fall of Icaris.
Beans, rice, onion, and garlic...
You could go pretty far (at low cost) with them. Add some bulk spice, and you'd be rocking. You'd crap better, too (trust me).
No reason to swear off meat quickly... an omnivorous diet is probably best. Just de-emphasize it.
You know, I see stories like this and they just make me ill. People are soooo misinformed and soooo ignorant of the facts, it's depressing. Sometimes I am convinced that there is an organization somewhere whose sole purpose is to spread FUD.
Just because you use corn to generate ethanol, does not mean that you still can't use what's left as food or feed. As a matter of fact, what is left actually makes a better feed for livestock than the corn itself. Farmers have traditionally used corn to "fatten" cattle for market. The starch in corn (which is the part of the corn used to make ethanol)literally put fat on the animal. No extra usable meat, just fat. In the distillation process, the starch is used to create ethanol. The rest of the corn is left in tact which is basically protien and fiber. Protien builds muscle/meat. The cooking and fermentation process actually even makes what is left more digestible, therefore making it a more efficient feed. Having an agricultural background, I can also tell you that cattle and other rumenids are very inefficient in digesting grains. If I remember correctly, only 15-20% efficiency in recovering. So much so that there were even experiments in the 70's and 80's about recycling their own feces and feeding it back to them. (that's not a joke) Grazers digestive track deal with grasses very well, but anything else, not so much.
Something similar can be said about biodiesel bade from oil crops like soybeans, sunflowers, canola, rape, even corn. Once lightly roast it and squeeze it to get the oil out, what's left is still usable for a feed or food processing.
Sugar Cane is a different issue. What's left after you process the cane? Nothing usable, just the grassy parts which is what Cane really is. So maybe that confuses some people and they think that vegetable oil production and ethanol production from crops like corn is the same.
Personally I hate to sound pesamistic, but I think there are is no end to the people that are going to try and use anything they can to their own advantage. The cattlemen are probably the best example of this. They are trying to scare the market by releasing half truths so the price of beef goes up. Just last week there was a big deal about the average weight of cattle going to market and they blame the cost of corn. Truth is that yes, the weight probably did go down if they are feeding less corn, but that weight is in fat, not usable meat. So in reality you now have a better, more marketable product and the feeders are getting paid for usable product, not something that gets left on the trimming room floor.
One thing that is true is that ethanol, biodiesel and butanol are not going to fix all our ills, but it is one piece of the puzzle.
Being able to rattle off any list of given facts has little to do with 'intelligence'.
I think it's called the 'Claven Fallacy'.
KM
Kinda like Moe, but just a little more Kool
I am sorry for being so cold and callous as I enjoy my luxurious life in the US, but why do we fight so hard to have more people living in areas where they apparently shouldn't be living per Mother Nature? I get so frustrated when people talk about the food supply problems and the water supply problems and how are we going to solve all these problems when perhaps, maybe, just maybe it is time to consider that the planet has enough human beings on it and adding to the population isn't the best move? Reminds me of the Matrix and Agent Smith's analysis of the human species as the only one that doesn't live within its bounds.
I wasn't suggesting that my friend's knowledge of the states was proof of his intelligence. I guess there was really no reason to mention the fact that he is intelligent; my point was more about practical vs. theoretical geographic knowledge. Most Americans at some point in middle or high school have to learn all 50 states and their capitals. Unless this becomes applied knowledge through actually visiting these places, most people tend to forget it. Which is also why the average American knows so little about European or Asian geography. A subsidiary point was my experience with fairly highly educated people having very little knowledge of basic geography (for their culture). It just seems to be an overlooked area of education for the most part.
BTW, I REALLY REALLY want "Claven Fallacy" to be a legitimate term.
...sometimes, in order to hurt someone very badly, you have to tell that person terrible lies. - PA
Who cares about biodiesel when we can use compressed air!!
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Engineair's Ultra-Efficient Rotary Compressed-Air Motor
http://pesn.com/2006/05/11/9500269_Engineair_Comp
http://www.engineair.com.au/
Thanks for the link; I had never heard of William Walker.
The history books I read in school talked very little about South America, and when they did, it went something like this:
1. Indigenous people had human sacrifice. The Spanish came and converted or killed them.
2. U.S. took California through Texas from Mexico. "Remember the Alamo".
3. The US helped Panama build a canal and kill mosquitoes.
4. Today the DEA spends a lot of money to help Columbia, Bolivia, etc fight drugs.
Of course, this is partially because my history lessons went like this:
1. US history
2. European history
3. The rest of the world (if time permits)
Gamingmuseum.com: Give your 3D accelerator a rest.
No problem.
On the flip side, don't go down the Noam Chomsky path and start believing that the US is responsible for all that is bad in Latin America, and that everybody else is innocent. For example, This particular war made the US Civil War look like a Tea Party; the Brits talk about how one out of three men were killed in WWI, imagine what it was like to have four out of five men in your country killed.
Supply of feed corn and sugar cane, yes. MMMmmm, I sure do love me some sugar stew after a hard days work in the fields.
Global agribusiness has solved distribution problems... and *that's* the real problem. The mega-farmer who owns all the land grows cash crops, while his many employees slowly starve to death.
Why does everyone seem bent on making this an all or nothing decision?
Why is there no discussion on the value of having diverse methods of producing fuels?
Lets assume that algea makes is the best source of fuel and California goes crazy with algea prioduction and refinement (or whatever) plants. Alls well until a typhoon hits, cuts production for the year in half and drives prices up. Or Global Warming changes the oceans enough that this algea is not viable.
Corn based fuels arent the most efficient. Fine, I accept that. But there is a reason I dont throw all my money into the one stock that is performing the best today. There is a reason we have stock portfolios, and the same reasons argue for an energy portfolio.
Corn has some other attractions that set it apart from algea or switch grass. The reason corn has taken off is NOT because of the Iowa caucuses. Its because most years there is an excess of corn and the corn producers are looking for a market. This excess is NOT going to feed the starving, its rotting in silos. We have the corn and the production system in place NOW so of course its going to get more attention than things that we dont have in large quantities today. And there is value in having one crop that can can be diverted to either food or fuel production. You cant do that with Algea or switch grass.(I know, I know, there are different kinds of corn for different uses but there is some overlap).
Thats enough for me to feel that this in ONE source of fuel, but there should be others as well.
Except it's not rote memorization for him. That's the point. He has had experience with these places, so didn't just memorize "Washington, Oregon, California, etc." He remembers "That place where I had that chili dog that gave me diarrhea for 2 days straight was in Washington on my way down to Oregon where I met that guy...." For some people, it is just rote memorization, so unless they periodically re-study the material, they forget it. And not many people study the states past high school. Geography in that sense is like, let's say, a car :-) You can read instruction and look at diagrams, but unless you actually change the belt, you are unlikely to remember how to do it a year from now. If you do change the belt, you are unlikely to forget how to do it.
...sometimes, in order to hurt someone very badly, you have to tell that person terrible lies. - PA
I've heard that hemp would be a better crop as it works well as a corn-rotation crop for the soil and has more fuel potential than corn as well? Can anyone verify?
With the advent of farming technology and the decline of slavery in the United States, we can now grow something besides cotton in the southern part of the country. Really, there's no more need for big men with machetes in sugar cane any more.
Goddamned kids! Get off my lawn!
Google the Texas Articles Of Secession. They make it pretty clear why they wanted out. I haven't looked at the other ones.
In February 1992, I was a high school junior. I took "American History" that year and "Civics/Economics" the next year (the year the treaty went into effect). I know it doesn't have much to do with American history, but you'd think they would have mentioned it in economics. Also, I watched the TV news to some extent back then, and don't remember hearing about it there either.
\overall, I would grade my public education a D+
\\and I took "advanced" classes
The IP Address is: 76.208.2.84. The host name is:
adsl-76-208-2-84.dsl.sbndin.sbcglobal.net
and stalking/trolling others as well online:
Hmmm. Yeah. I'll just let that speak for itself, APK.
That's so cute that you tried to find my IP. You must really be falling for me, you poor thing. I wonder how you'll react when you discover I'm really a transexual transvestite from Transylvania.
You have made a staggeringly huge fool out of yourself.
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Who said that is your IP? You seem awfully worried about that for some reason, why is that?You are so simple to manipulate into a reaction it is not even funny and you "tip your hand" via that reaction about that part of the last reply.
And you and your arstechnica pals (proofs are below) did so much online stalking of apk, for years no less, YOU are not one to talk.
All the way from 2001 to today's current date or near to it (in yourself trolling apk for no good reason here at slashdot constantly & admitting to it below as proof quoted by your own words):
http://www.windowsitpro.com/articles/index.cfm?art icleid=41095&cpage=190#feedbackAnchor
That's just 1 example. windowsitpro.com, 3dfiles.com, majorgeeks.com, ntcompatible.com, techpowerup.com, 2cpu.com, and more are others where you morons from arstechnica stalk that guy endlessly, or try to cut him down behind his back all the time as you did here 2x now that I have found in your posting history.
Also, searching 'apk' at episteme.arstechnica.com (where apk has not been since 2001 and you morons edited his posts no less there, just as Jeremy Reimer admitted to and was caught in impersonating apk on his forums at OSY and was kicked from his hosting provider for it no less and busted for email harassment by his ISP/BSP as well in the same stroke) shows this as proof of that, and that you are also a member of that pack of loser's website forums. You people are sickos. I can see doing a fight for a few days to make points, but for years, and from a pack of known and proven liars like you arstechnica losers? LOL!
So, how do you like your own medicine, except truth & facts being used against you as well as your own words and lies, trolling YOU this time. You are now on the receiving end, how's it feel?
Still, the fact that you all keep that up indicates that apk got to you all so badly, lol, by blowing away arstechnican's catching them in lies and showing they are NOT computer experts by any means (see the windowsitpro article above) so many times and in so many places online where you fools are known for attacking him, it proves you are all stinging badly is all from starting up fights and losing them each time vs. apk, ahahaha.
So, please: give us a break! Do not even try to play innocent here, as far as stalking others online (you admit in a quote of your own words below you actually get some sick pleasure out of it, and the funny part is, you lose everytime you do it, as you did here being caught lying).
AND, the only person that made a fool of themselves, is yourself here, being caught lying, rotflmao!
"Also, I never said I was from Staten Island. You did. I never said I was the girl in that picture either, you did." - by StarKruzr (74642) on Thursday March 29, @06:16PM (#18536049)
I never said you were a girl, YOU did, lol! Here is the posting where you did:
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=227475&cid=184 94155
You are a guy, or look like one, sorry to tell you, lol... NOT A WOMAN, even though you said you were, lol! You surely act like one, rotflmao.
More typical arstechnica forums members online lies, now from this nut StarKruzr (from Jeremy Reimer's disciple, lol, he gets caught in lies like Jeremy Reimer: The ULTIMATE liar, pretending to be some computer expert, yet has no degrees in computer science, nor even A+ or MSCE certs, or years if not decades of professional experience in this field in the trenches), that starts up crap with everyone?
StarKruzr is not a woman though (but sure is a liar, another Jeremy Reimer/Jay Little (arstechnica morons who operate the same way and get caught everytime) style liar, lol, & like they, got his ass beat in thru his own dishonesties) and starLOSER is from Staten Island NY, and that is hi
YHL. HAND.
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We're about the same age. Truthfully, I don't think that you should feel bad about not knowing about the EU until you were in high school; it really wasn't until the late nineties that it really started to become visible in ordinary daily life.
I remember touring through Europe in middle school (1989), back when you had to (shudder) go through customs when you crossed borders. You really didn't see the EU at all; back then they were still debating what to call the thing. Visiting Europe in 2001, immediately prior to the adoption of the Euro, now that was a very different experience.
And you are a liar starloser, pointblank. That much was simple to determine given the evidences. I can't believe you starloser, you sound like an idiot that is actually proud of harassing others! Easy to do online, doesn't take much of a person to do it. Some accomplishment. Now you have to live with your being exposed as a liar here on slashdot.
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(It's people like this starloser that come from that shithole arstechnica and ruin the atmosphere of the internet: Arstechnica - A pack of lazy, talk a lot do nothings that criticize & harass others by the same token & think it's cool or something. New news - it makes starloser look like some miserable dork and a liar given this person starloser as a prime example)
No amount of "L33tSp33k" or whatever you call that use of compressed english in acronyms can disprove your own words that showed you as a liar though starloser:
"Also, I never said I was from Staten Island. You did. I never said I was the girl in that picture either, you did." - by StarKruzr (74642) on Thursday March 29, @06:16PM (#18536049)
I never said you were a girl, YOU did, lol! Here is the posting where you did:
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=227475&cid=18
And you appear to be a male, not a woman.
CARES
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CARES
YHBT. YHL. HAND.
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You really do possess the emotional development of a 13 year old.
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APK's Feature Film, Coming Soon!
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No?
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1) You know, the Latin phrase "non sequitur" means "it does not follow."
(i.e., what does my IP address have to do with my hometown or my gender?)
2) I hate to break it to you, but OSY is alive and well.
Try to get your insane rants straight, K? I do so hate having to correct you all the time.
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Um. No? Mostly because a) that's not my IP address and b) to know when I post, all you have to do is READ MY USER PAGE. This isn't rocket science, which is the reason you can do it.
And I find it highly amusing that you are still in doubt about my gender.
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consider me permanently "calling you out." Okay? Consider the default state of my existence to be "laughing at APK and calling him a lying, good-for-nothing, narcissistic fool who has been banned from every place on the internet he's ever become a member of." Whatever you post, anywhere, on any of my Slashdot comments or anywhere else you happen to turn up, by default append a comment to it, by me, much like this one, calling your very existence an insult to worthless fools everywhere. I have officially appended eternal mockery to everything you have ever accomplished, failed to accomplish or hope to accomplish. How's that?
Now you will never be able to stop posting, because you always have to have the last word.
There's no solution to this halting problem, my friend.
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Ah, look at that reaction! Now, I am starting to get to you, and this is good!
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"Now you will never be able to stop posting, because you always have to have the last word." - by StarKruzr (74642) on Monday April 02, @03:19AM (#18571041)
Good Lord this fool thinks I am apk, haha. Guess again.
You'll just stop yourself, by your lies evidenced below (by becoming a laughing stock here):
"Also, I never said I was from Staten Island. You did. I never said I was the girl in that picture either, you did." - by StarKruzr (74642) on Thursday March 29, @06:16PM (#18536049)
I never said you were a girl, YOU did, lol! Here is the posting where you did:
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=227475&cid=18
You are a guy, or look like one, sorry to tell you, lol... NOT A WOMAN, even though you said you were, lol! You surely act like one, rotflmao.
"Consider the default state of my existence to be "laughing at APK and calling him a lying, good-for-nothing, narcissistic fool" - by StarKruzr (74642) on Monday April 02, @03:19AM (#18571041)
I'd say your default existence here at slashdot is becoming that of a liar who has been exposed, rotflmao.
As to being a liar? Well, are you a girl or boy?? You either lied above, or you just don't know, which indicates somekind of problem in any event, lol!
apk is also a decent contributor to this field in many capacities. Are you? No. You were asked that repeatedly and you had zero to show for it, lol. If anyone has grounds to be proud of themselves vs. he or yourself here? He does. You don't. Myself and others asked what you had done better than he had, vs. this single piece of what he wrote:
http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/389/foowhate
and you had nothing, rotflmao. Sounds like another jealous no good for nothing arstechnican, just like Jeremy "no degree in computer science, no certification (not even an A+, let alone an MCSE), and no years of professional hands-on experience in the trenches as a network engineer, or software engineer" Reimer. Another fake in starLOSER, just another Jeremy Reimer clone, lol.
As you would say, "ROTFLMAO!"
UH OH, RETARD! LOOKS LIKE YOU SCREWED UP! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, YOU JACKASS!
Now all of Slashdot and the entire Internet know PROOF POSITIVE that you make up people to "support" you and speak about yourself in the third person ALL THE TIME to make it appear that eeeeverybody in the world backs up good ol' Alex! WOW! What a PATHETIC LOSER you are! How incredibly sad! "LOL!" "ROTFLMAO!"
Oh, well. It's okay, APK. Someday you'll move out of your dad's house. I believe in you!
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FASCINATING. I WONDER WHY.
Do you know how many forums I've been banned from? Precisely ZERO. Why is it that you manage to get banned everywhere you go, Alex? Guess I know why you didn't breathe a WORD when I asked you where all your sycophants from TPU were and why they weren't backing you up -- THERE AREN'T ANY! HAHAHAHAHA! Pathetic.
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What do you call this one? "Mike?" "Steve?"
Every time you change faces you seem to somehow completely miss the fact that NO ONE TALKS LIKE THIS IN REAL LIFE.
You also keep using my name as if it gives you power over me. Every time you have changed faces you have done this. No one talks like that either. What sales class did you take that convinced you this was the way you should talk all the time?
(Before you jump on me for using your name over and over again, it has only been to assert that you are not fooling me and I am quite aware that you are in fact Alexander Peter Kowalsky, the sad, pathetic 46 year old reject who lives with his dad in Syracuse.)
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All those links you cited about his credibility seem to be quite mixed in terms of opinion about him. A few critics does not a complete collapse of reputation make. Hell, unless at least SOMEONE doesn't like you you must be doing something wrong, AMIRITE????
Allow me to sum up your comment:
LOL liar Reimer lol arstechnicans rotflmao you are not a girl starLOSER liar lol!
Truly, you are a paragon of writing accomplishment.
Okay, seriously. Let's drop the act. Okay? Yes? Let's quit pretending. I am quite male. I only said I was female to mess with your head. Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maximum culpa. And everyone who has posted in your support... has actually been you.
Can we both admit to that in the spirit of bipartisanship, you dirty terrorist?
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So find me, dork. Show me a picture of my house. Go ahead. What am I doing right now? Where am I?
(That is also not my IP address. Seriously. In fact, it's not ANY of them. Chew on that, you filthy Red.)
And most importantly -- what are you going to do about it? Hm?
Be very, very careful, now. Threats tend to be frowned upon by the authorities you love to invoke!
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There is no denying that Jeremy "no degree or cert or professional experience in computer science" Reimer is a charlatan and liar, per this url:
t icleid=41095&cpage=190#feedbackAnchor
http://www.windowsitpro.com/articles/index.cfm?ar
Where is was shown that Jeremy Reimer is an email harasser who got caught, and tried to lie about it no less. Jeremy Reimer ended up having to move his osy website from his original hosting provider, on top of all else because of it, just as his friend Jay Little did.
Pick better friends. As the saying goes though, since you have been caught lying here? Birds of a feather, flock together (at arstechnica, lol, house of liars and losers online).
Now, YOU say it was mixed support? Funny part is 1/2 of those people replying are probably Jeremy Reimer or his arstechnica friends in support of him.
I say this, because You accused others here of using others to support them, and yet you had no proof. Whereas, the proof of how you arstechnican's operate online and your gang up methods of using 'friends to help them' are right there above in fact, & you accused others of it here.
You merely give your own modus operandi away in fact, in that very accusation, and also based upon how Jeremy Reimer and Jay Little plus other arstechnicans operate was shown above from windowsitpro mag forums where they did themselves in in this field badly versus apk.
After all, that url from windowsitpro.com is where Jeremy "no degree in comp. sci. or even an A+ certification and no professional hands on in the trenches thru years of networking or programming" Reimer did so, and used Jay Little like a pawn at in.
Jay Little, who failed as badly as Reimer, and perhaps worse, saying he was an Exchange expert, bragging that literally in fact, and it was funny how he got burned on a point on exchange where he is supposedly some expert, and also about ramdisks as well, lol, when he stalked apk to ntcompatible.com forums and lost once more, and another arstechnican in dosfreak chastised him for it, hilarious.
Jay Little, another arstechnican giving away how you people operate. Some expert (not, how can he be? He is from arstechnica, lol, home of liars and losers online).
You, like your name tossing and calling others nuts do not realize something - names you throw in a debate first, losing your cool, only serve to show what you are weak in or afraid of.
Get your head together, because you are ruining yourself here, with your own words and lies which you now admit to lying about.
Your detractors points have been that if you start up trouble as you have, and cut others down, at least have done some decent work yourself in this field. Nobody can believe anything you say now though, so you live with that fact. You did it to yourself, like most arstechnicans often do and was documented above as well as lies you told here. Nobody can believe you anymore, this is your own fault, nobody else's.
I have no detractors. I have no "fans." I do not have an online "presence" of any kind, and I like it that way. I am not a blogger. I am not any kind of online "personality." There is only you and your delusional fantasies.
More to come!
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Give it up. Your ego prevents you from hiding your identity.
What the Jesus are you talking about, Alex? What "words?" I am not any kind of online "personality," and certainly do not aspire to be. I have no ego for you to crush in the way you are attempting to crush it. I am entirely secure in NOT being a "credible source." I have not studied to be a "credible source" in terms of journalism or reviews or what-have-you. What I AM studying to do is become a very credible source in breakthrough computing technology. At some point in the very near future, I might even be able to show you some of my work. We'll see.
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Okay! Let's see how well you fit the template, shall we?
Diagnostic criteria for 301.81 Narcissistic Personality Disorder
A pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior) Check!, need for admiration Check!, and lack of empathy Check!, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following:
(1) has a grandiose sense of self-importance Check! (e.g., exaggerates achievements Check! and talents Check!, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements Check!)
(2) is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success Check!, power, brilliance Check!, beauty, or ideal love
(3) believes that he or she is "special" Check! and unique Check! and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people Check! Check! Check!(or institutions)
(4) requires excessive admiration Check!
(5) has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations Check!
(6) is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends Eh? Maybe. No evidence of this.
(7) lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others No evidence of this either either way, but it wouldn't surprise me.
(8) is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him or her Check!
(9) shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes Hahaha, check check check!
Wow. I dunno. Maybe you should try some Wellbutrin.
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This works on people like you, just facts.
/000009.html
Just like it did on your fellow arstechnicans Jay Little and Jeremy Reimer at windowsitpro mag forums. It is a very good debate style, because it caught all of your arstechnica pals in lies like you have been caught here:
http://www.windowsitpro.com/articles/index.cfm?art icleid=41095&cpage=190#feedbackAnchor
Where is was shown that Jeremy Reimer is an email harasser who got caught, and tried to lie about it no less. Jeremy Reimer ended up having to move his osy website from his original hosting provider, on top of all else because of it, just as his friend Jay Little did. This must have really gotten to them, lol, because they tried it on apk first, and it instead, backfired on them, hahaha!
(Jay Little, and Jeremy Reimer (arstechnicans all, home of the liar and loser blowhard online, lol and now you here at slashdot, and there is no arguing with the results or facts is there, starloser?) the ones who had their sites removed from their hosting providers and also got caught email harassing others as well no less))?
See, at this point, above all else, nobody can trust or believe in you starkruzr. You've been caught lying with your own words. I actually feel bad for you, and mainly because you are not very intelligent and a lousy debater. Are you a girl, or boy? You are not sure yourself:
"Also, I never said I was from Staten Island. You did. I never said I was the girl in that picture either, you did." - by StarKruzr (74642) on Thursday March 29, @06:16PM (#18536049)
I never said you were a girl, YOU did, lol! Here is the posting where you did:
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=227475&cid=184 94155
"Okay, seriously. Let's drop the act. Okay? Yes? Let's quit pretending. I am quite male. I only said I was female to mess with your head." - by StarKruzr (74642) on Monday April 02, @08:18PM (#18581257)
You are such a liar, you just will not stop will you? StarKruzr from Staten Island?? You said it on other forums.
StarKruzr
Geek Apprentice
On your being starkruzr and from Staten Island?
Posts: 49
From: Staten Island, NY, USA, Earth, Sol System
Registered: Jul 2000
That's from this site -> http://www.geekculture.com/ultimatebb/Forum11/HTML
You're from staten island and named Jarrett, we already know this is your photo at this point in the url below, and if you note it's name? You see Jarett in that photo name.
http://gallery.r3v3ng.net/albums/BoardyPhotos/jare tt_katey_maria.jpg
Again: You are a guy, or look like one, sorry to tell you, lol... NOT A WOMAN, even though you said you were, lol! You surely act like one, rotflmao. Though it may come as a shock to you, lol, you probably THINK you are a woman, because you surely act like one! You are a guy, or a liar... lol! You choose.
AND THIS THREAD HERE SHOWS YOU ARE MATCHING AN EMAIL TO YOUR NAME starkruzr, to jarett
http://www.opacity.us/search.php?q=starkruzr%40sta rkruzr.com&submit=search&where=comments&u=1#result s
Posted by: Jarett
Hi guys, Anyone know what her name is? starkruzr@starkruzr.com
Man, You're a TOTAL liar starLOSER, who's been caught, and the arstechnica member trend and typical pattern continues, lol, BUSTED as a liar.
Are you proud of this? Because if so, do not consider politics as a career. ROTFLMAO!
If you do, I am tal
This works on people like you, just facts.
/000009.html
Especially sidewalk psychologist's with delusions of grandeur in that field, lol, and no Phd! LOL, he just MUST have went to WebMD, lol... ROTFLMAO!
Facts of your aberrant behaviour noted below (some truly hum dingers, lol), work, just like they did on your fellow arstechnicans Jay Little and Jeremy Reimer at windowsitpro mag forums. It is a very good debate style, because it caught all of your arstechnica pals in lies like you have been caught here:
http://www.windowsitpro.com/articles/index.cfm?art icleid=41095&cpage=190#feedbackAnchor
Where is was shown that Jeremy Reimer is an email harasser who got caught, and tried to lie about it no less. Jeremy Reimer ended up having to move his osy website from his original hosting provider, on top of all else because of it, just as his friend Jay Little did. This must have really gotten to them, lol, because they tried it on apk first, and it instead, backfired on them, hahaha!
(Jay Little, and Jeremy Reimer (arstechnicans all, home of the liar and loser blowhard online, lol and now you here at slashdot, and there is no arguing with the results or facts is there, starloser?) the ones who had their sites removed from their hosting providers and also got caught email harassing others as well no less))?
See, at this point, above all else, nobody can trust or believe in you starkruzr. You've been caught lying with your own words. I actually feel bad for you, and mainly because you are not very intelligent and a lousy debater. Are you a girl, or boy? You are not sure yourself:
"Also, I never said I was from Staten Island. You did. I never said I was the girl in that picture either, you did." - by StarKruzr (74642) on Thursday March 29, @06:16PM (#18536049)
I never said you were a girl, YOU did, lol! Here is the posting where you did:
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=227475&cid=184 94155
"Okay, seriously. Let's drop the act. Okay? Yes? Let's quit pretending. I am quite male. I only said I was female to mess with your head." - by StarKruzr (74642) on Monday April 02, @08:18PM (#18581257)
You are such a liar, you just will not stop will you? StarKruzr from Staten Island?? You said it on other forums.
StarKruzr
Geek Apprentice
On your being starkruzr and from Staten Island?
Posts: 49
From: Staten Island, NY, USA, Earth, Sol System
Registered: Jul 2000
That's from this site -> http://www.geekculture.com/ultimatebb/Forum11/HTML
You're from staten island and named Jarrett, we already know this is your photo at this point in the url below, and if you note it's name? You see Jarett in that photo name.
http://gallery.r3v3ng.net/albums/BoardyPhotos/jare tt_katey_maria.jpg
Again: You are a guy, or look like one, sorry to tell you, lol... NOT A WOMAN, even though you said you were, lol! You surely act like one, rotflmao. Though it may come as a shock to you, lol, you probably THINK you are a woman, because you surely act like one! You are a guy, or a liar... lol! You choose.
AND THIS THREAD HERE SHOWS YOU ARE MATCHING AN EMAIL TO YOUR NAME starkruzr, to jarett
http://www.opacity.us/search.php?q=starkruzr%40sta rkruzr.com&submit=search&where=comments&u=1#result s
Posted by: Jarett
Hi guys, Anyone know what her name is? starkruzr@starkruzr.com
Man, You're a TOTAL l
This works on people like you, just facts.
/000009.html
Especially sidewalk psychologist's with delusions of grandeur in that field, lol, and no Phd! Do you have one in psychiatry or psychology?? No!
Facts of your aberrant behaviour noted below (some truly hum dingers, lol), work, just like they did on your fellow arstechnicans Jay Little and Jeremy Reimer at windowsitpro mag forums. It is a very good debate style, because it caught all of your arstechnica pals in lies like you have been caught here:
http://www.windowsitpro.com/articles/index.cfm?art icleid=41095&cpage=190#feedbackAnchor
Where is was shown that Jeremy Reimer is an email harasser who got caught, and tried to lie about it no less. Jeremy Reimer ended up having to move his osy website from his original hosting provider, on top of all else because of it, just as his friend Jay Little did. This must have really gotten to them, lol, because they tried it on apk first, and it instead, backfired on them, hahaha!
(Jay Little, and Jeremy Reimer (arstechnicans all, home of the liar and loser blowhard online, lol and now you here at slashdot, and there is no arguing with the results or facts is there, starloser?) the ones who had their sites removed from their hosting providers and also got caught email harassing others as well no less)?
See, at this point, above all else, nobody can trust or believe in you starkruzr. You've been caught lying with your own words. I actually feel bad for you, and mainly because you are not very intelligent and a lousy debater. Are you a girl, or boy? You are not sure yourself:
"Also, I never said I was from Staten Island. You did. I never said I was the girl in that picture either, you did." - by StarKruzr (74642) on Thursday March 29, @06:16PM (#18536049)
I never said you were a girl, YOU did, lol! Here is the posting where you did:
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=227475&cid=184 94155
"Okay, seriously. Let's drop the act. Okay? Yes? Let's quit pretending. I am quite male. I only said I was female to mess with your head." - by StarKruzr (74642) on Monday April 02, @08:18PM (#18581257)
You are such a liar, you just will not stop will you? StarKruzr from Staten Island?? You said it on other forums.
StarKruzr
Geek Apprentice
On your being starkruzr and from Staten Island?
Posts: 49
From: Staten Island, NY, USA, Earth, Sol System
Registered: Jul 2000
That's from this site -> http://www.geekculture.com/ultimatebb/Forum11/HTML
You're from staten island and named Jarrett, we already know this is your photo at this point in the url below, and if you note it's name? You see Jarett in that photo name.
http://gallery.r3v3ng.net/albums/BoardyPhotos/jare tt_katey_maria.jpg
Again: You are a guy, or look like one, sorry to tell you, lol... NOT A WOMAN, even though you said you were, lol! You surely act like one, rotflmao. Though it may come as a shock to you, lol, you probably THINK you are a woman, because you surely act like one! You are a guy, or a liar... lol! You choose.
AND THIS THREAD HERE SHOWS YOU ARE MATCHING AN EMAIL TO YOUR NAME starkruzr, to jarett
http://www.opacity.us/search.php?q=starkruzr%40sta rkruzr.com&submit=search&where=comments&u=1#result s
Posted by: Jarett
Hi guys, Anyone know what her name is? starkruzr@starkruzr.com
Man, You're a TOTAL
It's so easy.
+++ATH0
Re:Portrait of a sidewalk psychologist, w/ no PhD!
All I have to do is match your behavior to a list here, APK. No one needs a Ph.D. to do that.
I would certainly need an advanced degree in psychiatry or psychology to determine how to treat you, of course. I have no education in psych whatsoever -- but I do know how to read, and the facts all point to you being a classic case of NPD.
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Read the subject line, because this worked everytime on arstechnica members like you, doing just as you are here, and it is just facts and your own words used against you, arstechnica member.
Especially sidewalk psychologist's with delusions of grandeur in that field, lol, and no Phd! Do you have one in psychiatry or psychology?? No!
Facts of your aberrant & antisocial behaviour noted below (some truly hum dingers, lol), work, just like they did on your fellow arstechnicans Jay Little and Jeremy Reimer at windowsitpro mag forums. It is a very good debate style, because it caught all of your arstechnica pals in lies like you have been caught here:
http://www.windowsitpro.com/articles/index.cfm?art icleid=41095&cpage=190#feedbackAnchor
Where is was shown that Jeremy Reimer is an email harasser who got caught, and tried to lie about it no less, as you have.
Jeremy Reimer also ended up having to move his osy website from his original hosting provider, on top of all else because of it, just as his friend Jay Little did. This must have really gotten to them, lol, because they tried it on apk first, and it instead, backfired on them, hahaha!
(Jay Little, and Jeremy Reimer (arstechnicans all, home of the liar and loser blowhard online, lol and now you here at slashdot another psycho-stalker from arstechnica trying to 'cut down apk' any way you can like some sick freak (evidenced below) since 2001 this has gone on from you people to he, and he has never started with you all, and there is no arguing with the results or facts is there on that account, starloser?)
The same arstechnicans in Jeremy "no degree or cert. in comp. sci. or years of pro experience hands-on doing the job" Reimer (your hero and friend), and his sidekick the 'exchange expert' Jay Little (not), who had their sites removed from their hosting providers and also got caught email harassing others as well no less? You are just helping to prove apk's point.
You arstechnica people have done this behind his back stuff cutting apk down or impersonating apk on your own site @ arstechnica and osy, and other sites so many times, you only give yourselves away each time.
(& like you, others from arstechnica also have all been caught outright lying as well in the doing of bullcrap like you are doing in particular now starloser. He must have really gotten to you all, lol, which is why you have a arsware section @ all on your home website no less).
Since 2001 (and apk has not bothered you all at your forums at arstechnica since no less) all the way to today in 2007, no less.
That is sick, you know. You've all kept it up & at sites like techpowerup.com, ntcompatible.com, majorgeeks.com, 3dfiles.com, 2cpu.com, slashdot.com, techpowerup.com, osy, & more and were caught in it, yet not a 1 of you can show more you have done in this field than apk has (evidences below).
See, at this point, above all else, nobody can trust or believe in you starkruzr. You've been caught lying with your own words. I actually feel bad for you, and mainly because you are not very intelligent and a lousy debater. Are you a girl, or boy? You are not sure yourself:
"Also, I never said I was from Staten Island. You did. I never said I was the girl in that picture either, you did." - by StarKruzr (74642) on Thursday March 29, @06:16PM (#18536049)
I never said you were a girl, YOU did, lol! Here is the posting where you did:
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=227475&cid=184 94155
"Okay, seriously. Let's drop the act. Okay? Yes? Let's quit pretending. I am quite male. I only said I was female to mess with your head." - by StarKruzr (74642) on Monday April 02, @08:18PM (#18581257)
You are such a liar, you just will not stop will you? Star
Read the subject line, because this worked everytime on arstechnica members like you, doing just as you are here, and it is just facts and your own words used against you, arstechnica member.
Especially sidewalk psychologist's with delusions of grandeur in that field, lol, and no Phd! Do you have one in psychiatry or psychology?? No! This is all you are left with, and still are unable to answer a question since you cut others down, in what you have done better personally to show for it in this field versus apk since you see fit to cut him down, and pursue him like an internet psycho stalker (how do you like it being directed back @ you?). You have, zero, and you evade that question, any way you can because all you have is zero, and 'sidewalk psychologist' quack-like analysis, lol!
Facts of your aberrant & antisocial behaviour noted below (some truly hum dingers, lol), work, just like they did on your fellow arstechnicans Jay Little and Jeremy Reimer at windowsitpro mag forums. It is a very good debate style, because it caught all of your arstechnica pals in lies like you have been caught here:
http://www.windowsitpro.com/articles/index.cfm?art icleid=41095&cpage=190#feedbackAnchor
Where is was shown that Jeremy Reimer is an email harasser who got caught, and tried to lie about it no less, as you have.
Jeremy Reimer also ended up having to move his osy website from his original hosting provider, on top of all else because of it, just as his friend Jay Little did. This must have really gotten to them, lol, because they tried it on apk first, and it instead, backfired on them, hahaha!
(Jay Little, and Jeremy Reimer (arstechnicans all, home of the liar and loser blowhard online, lol and now you here at slashdot another psycho-stalker from arstechnica trying to 'cut down apk' any way you can like some sick freak (evidenced below) since 2001 this has gone on from you people to he, and he has never started with you all, and there is no arguing with the results or facts is there on that account, starloser?))
The same arstechnicans in Jeremy "no degree or cert. in comp. sci. or years of pro experience hands-on doing the job" Reimer (your hero and friend), and his sidekick the 'exchange expert' Jay Little (not), who had their sites removed from their hosting providers and also got caught email harassing others as well no less? You are just helping to prove apk's point.
You arstechnica people have done this behind his back stuff cutting apk down or impersonating apk on your own site @ arstechnica and osy, and other sites so many times, you only give yourselves away each time.
(& like you, others from arstechnica also have all been caught outright lying as well in the doing of bullcrap like you are doing in particular now starloser. He must have really gotten to you all, lol, which is why you have a arsware section @ all on your home website no less).
Since 2001 (and apk has not bothered you all at your forums at arstechnica since no less) all the way to today in 2007, no less.
That is sick, you know. You've all kept it up & at sites like techpowerup.com, ntcompatible.com, majorgeeks.com, 3dfiles.com, 2cpu.com, slashdot.com, techpowerup.com, osy, & more and were caught in it, yet not a 1 of you can show more you have done in this field than apk has (evidences below).
See, at this point, above all else, nobody can trust or believe in you starkruzr. You've been caught lying with your own words. I actually feel bad for you, and mainly because you are not very intelligent and a lousy debater. Are you a girl, or boy? You are not sure yourself:
"Also, I never said I was from Staten Island. You did. I never said I was the girl in that picture either, you did." - by StarKruzr (74642) on Thursday March 29, @06:16PM (#18536049)
I never said you were a girl, YOU did, lol! Here is the posting
I'm guessing you grew up in the South- I don't think anyone north of the Mason-Dixie line would call U.S. soldiers stationed at Fort Sumter 'foreigners'. The Civil War was a big mess, and saying that it was fought over the State's right to seperate doesn't really give any clue as to why the states wanted to seperate. Saying that it was fought over slavery is at least as accurate- it's technically correct, but only gives part of the picture. The Civil War was started by a slaveholding south that felt increasingly alienated from its neighbors in the north- especially since the North was now powerful enough to elect a president that wasn't even on most of the Southern ballots. The South realized that if it stayed in the Union its way of life would slowly disapear- the North would make it hard (if not impossible) for slavery to expand, and without that expansion the South felt Slavery would surely die, and with it, their way of life. The South separated to protect their own interests, especially their interests with regards to slavery.
Saying the Civil War was fought over 'the states' rights to separate' is like saying that WWI was fought over the Assassination of Archduke Ferdinand. The trigger for a war is rarely the cause of a war- it's just the straw that pushes the countries over the edge, or gives them the excuse they need to fight.
You are reading a copy of my copyrighted post.
http://www.windowsitpro.com/articles/index.cfm?art icleid=41095&cpage=190#feedbackAnchor
Where am I on that page?
You're really losing it, Alex. Get help.
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that I go around the internet looking for people to make fun of?
I don't think you understand, Mr. Kowalski. You are a special case. Your complete lack of a sense of humor combined with how seriously you take yourself and your towering ego add up to endless lulz.
Where did I "put you down" on Ars? I ask not because I doubt it happened, but because I'd like to look back and laugh about it.
Also, I don't make a habit of making fun of anyone on Ars or anywhere else. I defy you to find a repetitive pattern of me abusing anyone other than you.
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I don't deny that I'm an Arsian. Why would I? I'm quite proud of it; I've been a member for 8 years now. I've met many of them in person and concluded that most of them are great, interesting, funny people.
I continue to troll you because it amuses me. You are an incomplete person, and it is fascinating to me to figure out what makes you tick. I enjoy watching you vary your responses, and seeing the incredibly limited creativity you have utterly fail you as you attempt to outsmart me.
Another reason I continue is because I want to see if you have a breaking point. I want to see if, pushed to the limits of your ability to react, some kind of epiphany strikes you and you find a way to move on.
Which I suppose makes all of this somewhat altruistic. Clearly you have some talent in IT, though you haven't been able to demonstrate anything you've done recently. Who knows -- maybe if you actually become able to make friends and develop a normal personality, you'll be able to move out of your dad's house. Anything's possible, you know.
By the way, you replace "in this field" with "in this science" and "in this area of the sciences." Very clever, Alex. Can't imagine how I'd see through that one. Consider that perhaps there are memes floating around in your brain, such as "x is a mere student," "x hasn't accomplished anything," "I'm a Fortune 500 consultant," etc. etc. etc., that have become so strong and so self-reinforced that they are prohibiting you from developing as a person. You use the same talking points now as you did when I trolled you two years ago. There is virtually no difference between those two APKs.
+++ATH0
"Clearly you have some talent in IT, though you haven't been able to demonstrate anything you've done recently." - by StarKruzr (74642) on Tuesday April 03, @08:24PM (#18597513)
.NET magazine) 1997 (iirc, Oct. issue pg. 83) issue review by Mr. John Enck, a technical editor of theirs for SuperCache & SuperDisk by EEC Systems (now SuperSpeed.com - first part was writing up an article featured on their corp. website alongside Mr. Enck no less, about the technical effective uses of Ramdisks, & the latter was on PAID CONTRACT to improve the mathematics & algorithm for tuning their SuperCache product w/ a programmatic addon they shipped w/ their product, & now is incorporated into the main program itself (Mr. Eric Dickman is their CEO iirc, & offered me a job w/ them back in 2003, but life took me to NYC instead of BOSTON) -
APK is no longer actively a shareware/freeware author, and has not been since 2003 (or so he told us at techpowerup.com forums). And, what is this? You think he has talent??
He can and has demonstrated some of what he has done, list is below: SO, we ask YOU again - what have you ever done we can see for comparison's sake? Nothing.
Also, StarLoser the arstechnican, why are you such a liar? See here:
"Also, I never said I was from Staten Island. You did. I never said I was the girl in that picture either, you did." - by StarKruzr (74642) on Thursday March 29, @06:16PM (#18536049)
I never said you were a girl, YOU did, lol! Here is the posting where you did:
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=227475&cid=184 94155
"Okay, seriously. Let's drop the act. Okay? Yes? Let's quit pretending. I am quite male. I only said I was female to mess with your head." - by StarKruzr (74642) on Monday April 02, @08:18PM (#18581257)
You have another think coming. ROTFLMAO, and you called others mentally troubled here, and yet YOU starloser, said that? LOL!
"I continue to troll you because it amuses me. You are an incomplete person, and it is fascinating to me to figure out what makes you tick. I enjoy watching you vary your responses, and seeing the incredibly limited creativity you have utterly fail you as you attempt to outsmart me." - by StarKruzr (74642) on Tuesday April 03, @08:24PM (#18597513)
Where is your Phd in psychology or psychiatry? Do you have one to make assessments like that?? No, you do not.
And, since all you can do is troll others (since you think this makes you something special in this area, computer sciences), has anyone ever told you that you are a sick puppy??
As far as "limited creativity", you are the one unable to show anything you have done of worth in this field anyone here can verify or test. You are full of it, and are the limited one, prove otherwise, show us things you've done that are better than the list provided here:
QUOTE APK FROM THIS URL:
http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?s=03e 21eb2b15e283d8688ff3338144957&t=25617&page=3&highl ight=aufrusten
WINDOWS NT-Magazine (forerunner of today's
SuperSpeed.com ARE A CERTIFIED Microsoft Partner you know, by the by, starloser.
This same set of work years later also landed apk a spot for SuperDisk/SuperVolume being a finalist in the Tech-Ed 2002 show, in its hardest category:
Boosting SQLServer Performance, the toughest category there is at tech-ed.
The work done for wares that took ideas on ramdisks to a finalist with EEC Systems/SuperSpeed.com in the HARDEST category there was, SQLServer performance enhancement, as well as doing work to boost their SuperCache II product to up to 40% better than its stock performance on a paid contract in commercial wares
Seek medical help starloser. You paranoia and lies shown you have told in quotes of you is too far gone. Not everyone replying here is apk. Do you have actual proof any of them are apk, instead of just speculation and innuendo? No you do not. Much like you lacked evidence of any accomplishments in this field though you cut down apk, myspace, and others rampantly, and much like how you lack a doctorate in medicine, psychology, or psychiatry yet you think are some authority in those areas. Just like Jeremy "the fake" Reimer (who lacks degrees in computer science, or even A+ certifications let alone MCSE, and who lacks professional hands on experience as a network engineer or software engineer, yet you consider him an authority in this field, lol), you too lack credibility for your lies mostly, and yes, also your lack of ability to show us anything showing you know anything in the field of computers at all imo. I do not think you have a degree in this field at this point like you have said here also, because I now know you are defintely a liar. An arstechnica liar like Reimer. Go figure, hahaha, birds of a feather do flock together at arstechnica (the home of the liar and loser online).
"Clearly you have some talent in IT, though you haven't been able to demonstrate anything you've done recently." - by StarKruzr (74642) on Tuesday April 03, @08:24PM (#18597513)
.NET magazine) 1997 (iirc, Oct. issue pg. 83) issue review by Mr. John Enck, a technical editor of theirs for SuperCache & SuperDisk by EEC Systems (now SuperSpeed.com - first part was writing up an article featured on their corp. website alongside Mr. Enck no less, about the technical effective uses of Ramdisks, & the latter was on PAID CONTRACT to improve the mathematics & algorithm for tuning their SuperCache product w/ a programmatic addon they shipped w/ their product, & now is incorporated into the main program itself (Mr. Eric Dickman is their CEO iirc, & offered me a job w/ them back in 2003, but life took me to NYC instead of BOSTON) -
That is strange, he has this program (and it is good):
http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/389/foowhatev ermakesgooglehappy.html
I find it rather odd you say that above about apk, especially after you said this here about him kicking off this trouble you are having with he and his friends where he was modded up +4 for his comments about computer science curricula vs. you being modded down to -1 here:
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=161862&cid=135 32123
"No one listen to this guy. He spent several months on Ars Technica trying to convince everyone he was some kind of super programmer, but it fell apart pretty fast when it became clear that he actually didn't know his ass from his elbow." - by StarKruzr (74642) on Sunday September 11, @12:42PM (#13532123)
Are you sure you know your ass from your elbow? I mean, you're a known liar, first of all and in your own words here:
"Also, I never said I was from Staten Island. You did. I never said I was the girl in that picture either, you did." - by StarKruzr (74642) on Thursday March 29, @06:16PM (#18536049)
I never said you were a girl, YOU did, lol! Here is the posting where you did:
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=227475&cid=184 94155
"Okay, seriously. Let's drop the act. Okay? Yes? Let's quit pretending. I am quite male. I only said I was female to mess with your head." - by StarKruzr (74642) on Monday April 02, @08:18PM (#18581257)
Nobody can trust you at all here or elsewhere starloser.
You are toast as far as your believability as a person, and credibility in the area of computer science also, because you have not done anything like the list below though you cut that person down as you did above!
All of this, you only did to yourself, here on these forums, shooting yourself down via lies.
You truly are just like Jeremy "no degree, cert., or professional hands on years of experience in software engineering or network engineering" Reimer did here:
http://www.windowsitpro.com/articles/index.cfm?art icleid=41095&cpage=190#feedbackAnchor
Considering apk's done this list, vs. yourself with nothing to show for it, though you try to cut down apk, myspace.com, & others:
A QUOTE APK FROM THIS URL:
http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?s=03e 21eb2b15e283d8688ff3338144957&t=25617&page=3&highl ight=aufrusten
WINDOWS NT-Magazine (forerunner of today's
SuperSpeed.com ARE A CERTIFIED Microsoft Partner you know, by the by, star
WELL! Clearly this means you have been entirely idle for the past 4 years, spiralling into a desperate whirlpool of friendless, jobless depression!
Because EVERYONE knows that if you can't cite software you've written, you're totally worthless as a human being and unfit to judge whether or not someone else's accomplishments are of any merit.
Right, Alex?
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You haven't been able to demonstrate anything you have done in the arena of computer sciences, your entire life fool, lol, yet tell others "do more for us lately"!
You also always lack proofs of your statements starloser, yet make all sorts of bold lies.
Do you realize what an ass you are, starloser? See here:
"Clearly you have some talent in IT, though you haven't been able to demonstrate anything you've done recently." - by StarKruzr (74642) on Tuesday April 03, @08:24PM (#18597513)
That is strange, apk has this program out there now (and it is good, since he is so idle,(from you the 'alleged grad school student', who lies lol and cannot be trusted)):
http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/389/foowhatev ermakesgooglehappy.html
I find it quite odd you say that above about apk, especially after you said this here about him in the url below, kicking off this trouble you are having with he and his friends where he was modded up +4 for his comments about computer science curricula vs. you being modded down to -1 here:
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=161862&cid=135 32123
"No one listen to this guy. He spent several months on Ars Technica trying to convince everyone he was some kind of super programmer, but it fell apart pretty fast when it became clear that he actually didn't know his ass from his elbow." - by StarKruzr (74642) on Sunday September 11, @12:42PM (#13532123)
Are you sure you know your ass from your elbow? Can you make up your mind?? Evidently not, and you defintely cannot tell truths either. I mean, you're a known liar, first of all and in your own words here:
"Also, I never said I was from Staten Island. You did. I never said I was the girl in that picture either, you did." - by StarKruzr (74642) on Thursday March 29, @06:16PM (#18536049)
I never said you were a girl, YOU did, lol! Here is the posting where you did:
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=227475&cid=184 94155
"Okay, seriously. Let's drop the act. Okay? Yes? Let's quit pretending. I am quite male. I only said I was female to mess with your head." - by StarKruzr (74642) on Monday April 02, @08:18PM (#18581257)
Nobody can trust you at all here or elsewhere starloser.
You are toast as far as your believability as a person, and credibility in the area of computer science also, because you have not done anything like the list below though you cut that person down as you did above!
All of this, you only did to yourself, here on these forums, shooting yourself down via lies. You keep saying apk lives in his father's home, but do you have proof of this? No. Just more lies is all you can come up with, lol.
You truly are just like Jeremy "no degree, cert., or professional hands on years of experience in software engineering or network engineering" Reimer did here:
http://www.windowsitpro.com/articles/index.cfm?art icleid=41095&cpage=190#feedbackAnchor
That is where documented evidence about Jeremy Reimer and Jay Little exists online (unlike you since you have zero, along w/ your accusations) were both caught email harassing apk and others, and had their websites removed by their hosting providers as well. Ah, the price paid, lol! They tried that on apk first, and instead, ahahaha, it backfired on them, and happened to them.
Hilarious arstechnica clowns, with no visible accomplishments in this field of any worth or note, like yourself. Lying, lazy, and big talking birds of a feather, do flock together: At arstechnica, hehehe!
Also, since you say he i
repeating the same thing over and over again is your way of saying "I'm tired and don't feel like arguing with you anymore, but still want to pretend I 'won,'" isn't it, Alex?
Sadly, you've already lost, and lost days and days ago.
Bye, APK. Until next time your retarditude amuses me, of course...
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