Which probably contains security holes that make it unfit for use in a data center. Sticking with an old version of GPU drivers is simply not a viable option, and anybody even suggesting otherwise should be stripped naked and dragged through the streets behind a Brinks truck on national television for all to see.
I think the same things about people making blanket statements about security because "data centre". If someone is in position to exploit a bug in a GPU driver in your datacentre then you should be subjected to those things you listed above. The actual bug in the GPU itself is irrelevant. If they get that far in many cases you have already lost.
I had some randomly hang after eight hours of constant use, a known issue that affects nobody using gaming cards
You don't play games do you. 8 hours? Good that's the warm-up, when does the real gaming start? That's to say nothing of the time my sister and I tag teamed on the one PC because we couldn't be bothered lugging 2 to the event. She showed up with a sleeping bag and "relieved me" from my gaming duties, I returned the favour the following morning after getting back from the Maccas drive through with 6 bacon and egg McMuffins.
I'm pretty sure us eating those muffins for 5 minutes and a 30 second piss was the only break the GPUs saw that weekend.
"WHQL certified drivers are deployed automatically via Windows Update." -- And if you're running an OS that allows MS to automatically update your server, you deserve everything you get.
WHQL drivers do not require me to read or agree to a license agreement. If I can't read the agreement before agreeing to it, it becomes automatically void. There's case law that backs up that effect.
I haven't even bothered to find out what exactly Google home is, I have already decided... snip... I wonder how many geeks and non geeks have a similar reaction.
More and more. Over are the days of using our brains. We now live in a world of headlines and soundbites. There's no more grey, no more thinking, just black and white, or red and blue. Since it's trendy to hate Google because of their size every single thing they have and do must therefore be bad.
*Note this post is not a reflection of what I think of Google Home. That shit can go to hell. But rather this is a reflection of the world we now live in.
The point was to make a streaming device. As much as I like Kodi the lack of current support for Netflix, Amazon Prime, et al, makes it a really shitty Streaming Device.
My regular US visa has been suspended when travelling many times, us cash not accepted.
Sounds like an interesting US problem. I have travelled all over the world and never had a card cancelled. Likewise every place that accepts credit cards also has some form of currency exchange available.
Of course you can't since he never threatened nuclear war.
Wow I've heard of selective reading before but this takes the cake. But please be specific, which threat would you like the link to? - The gentle reminder about the size of America's nuclear arsenal? - Where he told "rocket man" that if he keeps it up he "won't be around for much longer"? - The one where he wanted to "solve" North Korea and specifically asked nuclear powers to help. - Where he tweeted that "military solutions are now fully in place" after putting his nuclear bombers on alert?
It's actually quite funny, you know who thinks that Trump threatened NK with nuclear war? Twitter. That's why they updated their policy in September. They are just now backtracking because they didn't think the USA president would be stupid enough to keep doing it.
So conflicted right now. On the one side if I don't pirate I have heating in my house. On the other side if I pirate I may no longer have to endure dupes!
None as wide spread as you're reporting (daily occurrence across multiple machines and multiple configurations), and not at a rate different than any previous release.
each of the five claims could be for different, non-overlapping sections within it
So we're talking about a random number generator that is generating repeating set of patterns of random numbers? Or you think someone's white noise is acoustically different to someone elses?
Anyone got any real-world experience of these scenarios?
I invite you to look at a history of erratas from any CPU (or silicon in general) manufacturer. It is literally situation normal to sell devices with known defects that need to be worked around, and it has been since the 80s.
The problem with your "defer" option is that you're unlikely to defer when there's no end in sight.
Intel will no doubt copy the big banks by claiming that it is "too big to fail". It would argue that it can't afford to replace all the defective chips, and so it shouldn't be forced to.
Are you mental? In what world would they need to?
a) there's software workarounds so there's no case at all to replace defective chips. b) the performance hit will drive an increase in sales as datacentres make up the shortfall.
All the doom and gloom for Intel you people come up with is incredible. Just because you will something doesn't mean the world will work the way you think. Intel will be just fine in the happy little free market without any "too big to fail" bullshit.
Why quote some 3rd party FAQ rather than the original paper which is linked to in your citation?:
The reasons for this can be manifold. First of all, our implementation might simply be too slow and a more optimized version might succeed. For instance, a more shallow out-of-order execution pipeline could tip the race condition towards against the data leakage. Similarly, if the processor lacks certain features, e.g., no re-order buffer, our current implementation might not be able to leak data. However, for both ARM and AMD, the toy example as described in Section 3 works reliably, indicating that out-of-order execution generally occurs and instructions past illegal memory accesses are also performed.
Is there a reason you're persisting with this discussion? You seem determined to prove that the fault here lies anywhere but with Firefox.
Yeah because what you're experiencing is not reflected in any known issues on the bug tracker or the roll-out of Firefox 57 in general. There's been basically no reports of stability issues and if you're experiencing them then it's likely you've created them somehow.
But by all means keep pointing the finger rather than trying to solve the issues you create > i.e. your profile or perhaps your computer configurations (various as they may be you're still a common element).
RIGHT! Just because someone is as narrow sighted as you doesn't make it any less of common practice. Why do you think there's a requirement for CEOs to hold onto a minimum of stock for a defined period in the first place.
I'll pause here for you to think about that....
Oh you got it yet? Yes that's right, because it's quite common not to hold onto stock, especially if stock is your primary method of payment.
Here we are talking about replacing a proven (albeit expensive) method with a cheap computer on board of the rocket.
The cost or proven in use case have no bearing on the overall reliability of a system. Computer based safety systems have by their nature replaced proven and expensive methods of safety that came before them, yet with each iteration of technology the reliability continues to improve.
What it sounds like you're making a case for is the lack of field experience for this particular computer, but that's exactly where reliability engineering comes in, something that we have also gotten far better at over the years.
Yes and no. Ideal redundancy is through independent systems and by independent I am also talking technologically independent. For basic and defined outcomes a human is not needed. A human is critical in decision making where the decision point isn't well defined (i.e. does that car look like it's about to run a red light).
The payroll in this case is a bunch of humans looking at a computer to make a decision based on an event. If the decision point is defined then the computer can just cut out the middle man (no pun intended).
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Which probably contains security holes that make it unfit for use in a data center. Sticking with an old version of GPU drivers is simply not a viable option, and anybody even suggesting otherwise should be stripped naked and dragged through the streets behind a Brinks truck on national television for all to see.
I think the same things about people making blanket statements about security because "data centre". If someone is in position to exploit a bug in a GPU driver in your datacentre then you should be subjected to those things you listed above. The actual bug in the GPU itself is irrelevant. If they get that far in many cases you have already lost.
If you OWN the hardware you purchase, you're technically free to do what it as you wish
Indeed, but to do so you will need to write your own driver. The license restrictions has nothing at all to do with your hardware.
I had some randomly hang after eight hours of constant use, a known issue that affects nobody using gaming cards
You don't play games do you. 8 hours? Good that's the warm-up, when does the real gaming start? That's to say nothing of the time my sister and I tag teamed on the one PC because we couldn't be bothered lugging 2 to the event. She showed up with a sleeping bag and "relieved me" from my gaming duties, I returned the favour the following morning after getting back from the Maccas drive through with 6 bacon and egg McMuffins.
I'm pretty sure us eating those muffins for 5 minutes and a 30 second piss was the only break the GPUs saw that weekend.
"WHQL certified drivers are deployed automatically via Windows Update." -- And if you're running an OS that allows MS to automatically update your server, you deserve everything you get.
WHQL drivers do not require me to read or agree to a license agreement. If I can't read the agreement before agreeing to it, it becomes automatically void. There's case law that backs up that effect.
I haven't even bothered to find out what exactly Google home is, I have already decided...
snip...
I wonder how many geeks and non geeks have a similar reaction.
More and more. Over are the days of using our brains. We now live in a world of headlines and soundbites. There's no more grey, no more thinking, just black and white, or red and blue. Since it's trendy to hate Google because of their size every single thing they have and do must therefore be bad.
*Note this post is not a reflection of what I think of Google Home. That shit can go to hell. But rather this is a reflection of the world we now live in.
I see that it was a CNN report, that explains were the big science words were missing...
Slashdot: News for the least nerdy of nerds, partisan political arguments that don't matter.
Does Kodi then run as an app on the Fire TV? I.e. does Amazon Prime still work? Also what about Netflix?
Asking because I have a little Kodi box and it's annoying that I need to use my shitty smart TV for Netflix / Prime.
Now with Kodi.
The point was to make a streaming device. As much as I like Kodi the lack of current support for Netflix, Amazon Prime, et al, makes it a really shitty Streaming Device.
He used nuclear deterrence.
So he threatened. Glad you agree with me.
My regular US visa has been suspended when travelling many times, us cash not accepted.
Sounds like an interesting US problem. I have travelled all over the world and never had a card cancelled. Likewise every place that accepts credit cards also has some form of currency exchange available.
Travelers checks? What is this, the 60s?
Trump has never supported any racist group.
In politics being the only person to not instantly condemn a violent and racist hate attack is pretty much defined as "support".
Of course you can't since he never threatened nuclear war.
Wow I've heard of selective reading before but this takes the cake. But please be specific, which threat would you like the link to?
- The gentle reminder about the size of America's nuclear arsenal?
- Where he told "rocket man" that if he keeps it up he "won't be around for much longer"?
- The one where he wanted to "solve" North Korea and specifically asked nuclear powers to help.
- Where he tweeted that "military solutions are now fully in place" after putting his nuclear bombers on alert?
It's actually quite funny, you know who thinks that Trump threatened NK with nuclear war? Twitter. That's why they updated their policy in September. They are just now backtracking because they didn't think the USA president would be stupid enough to keep doing it.
So conflicted right now. On the one side if I don't pirate I have heating in my house. On the other side if I pirate I may no longer have to endure dupes!
None as wide spread as you're reporting (daily occurrence across multiple machines and multiple configurations), and not at a rate different than any previous release.
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I don't say this often but... thank god for Slashdot's lack of Unicode and emoji support.
each of the five claims could be for different, non-overlapping sections within it
So we're talking about a random number generator that is generating repeating set of patterns of random numbers? Or you think someone's white noise is acoustically different to someone elses?
Anyone got any real-world experience of these scenarios?
I invite you to look at a history of erratas from any CPU (or silicon in general) manufacturer. It is literally situation normal to sell devices with known defects that need to be worked around, and it has been since the 80s.
The problem with your "defer" option is that you're unlikely to defer when there's no end in sight.
It found out about the bug in June and continued to sell defective processors that requires a software fix.
FTFY. What you're describing is called "business as normal" in the silicon world. It is literally the norm, or have you never heard of erratas?
It found out about the bug in June and continued to sell defective processors that requires a software fix.
FTFY. What you're describing is called "business as normal" in the silicon world.
Intel will no doubt copy the big banks by claiming that it is "too big to fail". It would argue that it can't afford to replace all the defective chips, and so it shouldn't be forced to.
Are you mental? In what world would they need to?
a) there's software workarounds so there's no case at all to replace defective chips.
b) the performance hit will drive an increase in sales as datacentres make up the shortfall.
All the doom and gloom for Intel you people come up with is incredible. Just because you will something doesn't mean the world will work the way you think. Intel will be just fine in the happy little free market without any "too big to fail" bullshit.
Why quote some 3rd party FAQ rather than the original paper which is linked to in your citation?:
The reasons for this can be manifold. First of all, our implementation might simply be too slow and a more optimized version might succeed. For instance, a more shallow out-of-order execution pipeline could tip the race condition towards against the data leakage. Similarly, if the processor lacks certain features, e.g., no re-order buffer, our current implementation might not be able to leak data. However, for both ARM and AMD, the toy example as described in Section 3 works reliably, indicating that out-of-order execution generally occurs and instructions past illegal memory accesses are also performed.
Is there a reason you're persisting with this discussion? You seem determined to prove that the fault here lies anywhere but with Firefox.
Yeah because what you're experiencing is not reflected in any known issues on the bug tracker or the roll-out of Firefox 57 in general. There's been basically no reports of stability issues and if you're experiencing them then it's likely you've created them somehow.
But by all means keep pointing the finger rather than trying to solve the issues you create > i.e. your profile or perhaps your computer configurations (various as they may be you're still a common element).
RIGHT! Just because someone is as narrow sighted as you doesn't make it any less of common practice. Why do you think there's a requirement for CEOs to hold onto a minimum of stock for a defined period in the first place.
I'll pause here for you to think about that ....
Oh you got it yet? Yes that's right, because it's quite common not to hold onto stock, especially if stock is your primary method of payment.
Here we are talking about replacing a proven (albeit expensive) method with a cheap computer on board of the rocket.
The cost or proven in use case have no bearing on the overall reliability of a system. Computer based safety systems have by their nature replaced proven and expensive methods of safety that came before them, yet with each iteration of technology the reliability continues to improve.
What it sounds like you're making a case for is the lack of field experience for this particular computer, but that's exactly where reliability engineering comes in, something that we have also gotten far better at over the years.
Yes and no. Ideal redundancy is through independent systems and by independent I am also talking technologically independent. For basic and defined outcomes a human is not needed. A human is critical in decision making where the decision point isn't well defined (i.e. does that car look like it's about to run a red light).
The payroll in this case is a bunch of humans looking at a computer to make a decision based on an event. If the decision point is defined then the computer can just cut out the middle man (no pun intended).