So *whaa* {insert problem that isn't related to Google about Google's OS here}. Vote with your wallet. My phone is 3 years old and is on security patch level October 2017, without rooting, just from OTA updates, and running Lollipop.
Which brings me back to the original point: There's fuck all reason to desire an upgrade to a new OS, unlike with Apple where doing so is critical for security reasons.
I mean let's face it, the vast majority of the world is not made up of stock brokers and wallstreet types. They don't actively research investments in great detail and are often suckered in by marketing, and news of the day (arguably so is wallstreet).
So with that in mind what would you invest in in the absence of any real research: a) A stock market which over the last 5 years has been incredibly stagnant. b) This bitcoin thing which over the last 5 years has increased in value by 6000%.
I wonder if more than 2/3rds of every other generation is able to make sound investment decisions. I wonder if all the people who are moaning about bitcoin do too.
Implying that having witnessed the commodity bubble bursting means the older generations all make sound financial decisions?
Before you try to prove why millennials think the way they do, it's worth investigating if other generations don't actually make equally dumb decisions.
I'll discuss, but first define "socialism" and "capitalism". Hint, not everything that somehow prevents a corporation from raping you sideways is socialism - Popular slashdot definition. If that's the one we're going with, then capitalism doesn't exist and the discussion is over.
While we're discussing things, prove to me that 1/3rd of every other generation makes sound financial investments.
1/3 of millennials don't understand risk, volatility or liquidity.
1/3rd of the entire frigging population does that. The article is disingenuous blaming it on millennials. This isn't generational, it's based on experience.
At least investing in metals gives you something with intrinsic value.
Ironically metals are one of the things that have dropped in value in the past few years.
But, whatever. Millennials can be as stupid as they want, it just means better returns for me. I've studied how rich people build and maintain their wealth, and I'm going to do that.
Firstly, it's a small subset of millennials, and I will wager that subset is just as large in every other generation. Secondly, your view is reflected by every investor, ever. Thirdly, rich people build wealth by investing in an idea of endless growth and hoping they die before the bubble pops. Only a subset of visionaries are able to bounce between ideas and investments to maintain the growth. All I can say is, good luck. You'll need it, it's actually how most rich people build wealth.
This. They see the stock market as being controlled by Wall Street; they can't get in on the game, so they turn towards another game that lets them do nothing while they imagine they're accruing value somehow.
Or maybe they see the forced investment scheme into the stock market as a source of endless growth for what it has been, a very slow forming bubble that is at risk when millions of baby boomers retire and start to extract money from their various investment funds.
It's because they're stupid.
Are you telling me there exists another generation where more than 2/3rds of the population make sound investment decisions? It's not because *they* are stupid. It's because *we* are stupid. As in a subset of humans are stupid.
Abbink and his team saw a contrast between hard edges -- the engineered, rational, and mechanical -- and curves -- the softer more humanistic elements. It's a reflection of the man-and-machine relationship that runs through the company's history -- a dynamic that is reflected in the final form of IBM Plex
The only thing worse than artists are those who critique them.
It only seems strange in the absence of evidence that it works. That evidence is clear from a number of companies who have made "dick moves (TM)" and yet have their customers endlessly coming back for more.
Thanks but I'm not interested in having to wait 2 min for my remote to boot, charge it every couple of days, and stuff around with a clunky touch screen.
Phones are great for a lot of things. This isn't one of them.
Oh wow. You think a modern appliance runs for 10 years? You're in for a nasty surprise when your old reliable devices finally kick the bucket and you join the disposable modern world.
Note that still applies if you spend Miele money, not just on Chinese garbage.
I did write code in those bad old days. They taught us the valuable lesson: how to design websites in a world where the presence and type of fonts available to the client is a clusterfuck.
If your website breaks because of a font change you should pick a different career.
If your system fucks up that easily, they shouldn't just pull the rug from you, but then kick you in the face for good measure.
Fonts and the presence of them have been completely unreliable in rendering since the world wide web's inception. If it breaks due to a font change then fire your web developer.
And security patches having nothing to do with updates? On average, Apple supports their phones longer than Android.
You're not understanding the difference between updates and security patches. They have nothing to do with each other. Just because your Ancient Galaxy S5 didn't get Orea, or Nougat, or maybe you didn't chose to install Marshmallow doesn't mean that it isn't supported due to the difference between security level patching and the version of the OS.
With Apple, you're either running the latest or you're out of support. Apple support their hardware with core OS releases longer, but security wise there's little separating the companies with Google providing security patching all the way back to the original release which separated security from feature updates.
That's because on iOS, more users will be on the latest shiny OS than on Android
Exactly my point.
And 4.4 security updates stopped as of October. 5 updates will stop soon enough.
Got a cite for that? I couldn't find anything on the topic that said that Google won't update the security patch level on 4.4 going forward.
If you're an iOS developer, you can target iOS 11 for your apps because a good chunk of the population will be using it. If you're an Android developer, targeting Oreo will net you a minuscule part of the Android userbase. You'd want to target Android 6 or so to capture the majority of Android users.
Targetting? What are you talking about. The API levels have changed so little in the past 3+ years. A vast majority of new features do not affect core functionality. The backwards compatibility of Android APIs is one of its best selling points to developers. You can target API level 26 and implement all the latest and greatest without having the core functionality lost in earlier versions. I think the last time something of note to developers was introduced was API level 23 which introduced native support for fingerprint readers.
In short, as a developer if you're caring about targetting the latest API level for some core functionality consider your product incredibly niche and don't bet on getting rich.
Apple has one major release stream. Android have several with security updates backported back to version 4.4.
There is more of a requirement to run the latest shiny for iOS, whereas in Android the requirement is not there and the shiny is reserved for customers paying for updated devices.
Please don't confuse your inability to comprehend english with some technical matters.
Or maybe you do comprehend english including the link you sent me, and just happened to be off your pills when you read them. Or are the government spy satellites not aligned correctly to keep you in check?
Yeah, why are Apple users overs with upgrades? No seriously comparing mobile systems to desktop OSes is pointless. I use the OS that comes with the device. There's nothing my windows 7 machine can't do that Windows 10 can in the day to day activities. I also don't upgrade it every 2 years.
I'll upgrade when I need to, not because I have an obsession.
Probably it can be. The larger an unmanageable database of other's stuff the more likely it is your data is not findable for anything other than specific targeted and searchable attacks. Would I put ideas on Google docs? Absolutely. Would I put bank numbers and credit card info? Hell no.
Ooooh so close. You made it through the entire paragraph before collapsing with your logical fallacy right in the following sentence.
You don't seem to understand the word "trust". You don't "trust" free (by that I assume you mean open source) software. By its nature if you trusted it you won't be wanting to see the source.
Ultimately what you're saying is that nothing is for you trust worthy, especially not the free software you are so happy to be able to audit.
but ask yourself, why is it closed source yet using an open source core?
That arguement isn't on shaky ground, only because it has sunk and drowned in quicksand. Like WTF? You may as well say "but yes the sky is blue so it proves that Trump was actually the second shooter behind the grassy knoll". The two have as much to do with the use of open source in closed source, and both have equally as much to do with the security of some code shipped by a private company.
And why would you put something like "DRM" in something at that low and dangerous level.
Because that's the only place it has a hope in hell of working? Or have you not paid attention to the many years of DRM developments, TPM, encryption at a hardware level etc.
Never confuse statements
Good advice.
We've had evidence leaked that proved government intentions to hook into all system domestic and foreign through hacks in software and hardware.
Clearly you're a government spy trying to run a false flag operation here. Nice try. We have evidence leaked that proved government intentions to hook into all system domestic and foreign.
Do you know of a BIOS that runs when the computer is off?
Was this an attempt at a joke? The answer to this question is: All of them since the days of ATX and if you were a corporate customer it predates this too.
Slashdot Mirror
India definitely needs to invest more in cleaner energy
Or maybe they can start by not setting half the country on fire every winter through illegal crop burning. This happens every year around this time.
So *whaa* {insert problem that isn't related to Google about Google's OS here}.
Vote with your wallet. My phone is 3 years old and is on security patch level October 2017, without rooting, just from OTA updates, and running Lollipop.
Which brings me back to the original point: There's fuck all reason to desire an upgrade to a new OS, unlike with Apple where doing so is critical for security reasons.
I mean let's face it, the vast majority of the world is not made up of stock brokers and wallstreet types. They don't actively research investments in great detail and are often suckered in by marketing, and news of the day (arguably so is wallstreet).
So with that in mind what would you invest in in the absence of any real research:
a) A stock market which over the last 5 years has been incredibly stagnant.
b) This bitcoin thing which over the last 5 years has increased in value by 6000%.
I wonder if more than 2/3rds of every other generation is able to make sound investment decisions. I wonder if all the people who are moaning about bitcoin do too.
Implying that having witnessed the commodity bubble bursting means the older generations all make sound financial decisions?
Before you try to prove why millennials think the way they do, it's worth investigating if other generations don't actually make equally dumb decisions.
I'll discuss, but first define "socialism" and "capitalism". Hint, not everything that somehow prevents a corporation from raping you sideways is socialism - Popular slashdot definition. If that's the one we're going with, then capitalism doesn't exist and the discussion is over.
While we're discussing things, prove to me that 1/3rd of every other generation makes sound financial investments.
1/3 of millennials don't understand risk, volatility or liquidity.
1/3rd of the entire frigging population does that. The article is disingenuous blaming it on millennials. This isn't generational, it's based on experience.
They can't keep climbing indefinitely and some people will lose their shirts.
Wait you can't be implying ...
Investments are regulated so that people are protected from the Bernie Madoffs of the world
Bahahahahahahahahahahha ahahhahahaha ha ha ha hahahahhahaha. I needed the good belly laugh.
At least investing in metals gives you something with intrinsic value.
Ironically metals are one of the things that have dropped in value in the past few years.
But, whatever. Millennials can be as stupid as they want, it just means better returns for me. I've studied how rich people build and maintain their wealth, and I'm going to do that.
Firstly, it's a small subset of millennials, and I will wager that subset is just as large in every other generation.
Secondly, your view is reflected by every investor, ever.
Thirdly, rich people build wealth by investing in an idea of endless growth and hoping they die before the bubble pops. Only a subset of visionaries are able to bounce between ideas and investments to maintain the growth. All I can say is, good luck. You'll need it, it's actually how most rich people build wealth.
This. They see the stock market as being controlled by Wall Street; they can't get in on the game, so they turn towards another game that lets them do nothing while they imagine they're accruing value somehow.
Or maybe they see the forced investment scheme into the stock market as a source of endless growth for what it has been, a very slow forming bubble that is at risk when millions of baby boomers retire and start to extract money from their various investment funds.
It's because they're stupid.
Are you telling me there exists another generation where more than 2/3rds of the population make sound investment decisions? It's not because *they* are stupid. It's because *we* are stupid. As in a subset of humans are stupid.
Abbink and his team saw a contrast between hard edges -- the engineered, rational, and mechanical -- and curves -- the softer more humanistic elements. It's a reflection of the man-and-machine relationship that runs through the company's history -- a dynamic that is reflected in the final form of IBM Plex
The only thing worse than artists are those who critique them.
It only seems strange in the absence of evidence that it works. That evidence is clear from a number of companies who have made "dick moves (TM)" and yet have their customers endlessly coming back for more.
Thanks but I'm not interested in having to wait 2 min for my remote to boot, charge it every couple of days, and stuff around with a clunky touch screen.
Phones are great for a lot of things. This isn't one of them.
Oh wow. You think a modern appliance runs for 10 years? You're in for a nasty surprise when your old reliable devices finally kick the bucket and you join the disposable modern world.
Note that still applies if you spend Miele money, not just on Chinese garbage.
I did write code in those bad old days. They taught us the valuable lesson: how to design websites in a world where the presence and type of fonts available to the client is a clusterfuck.
If your website breaks because of a font change you should pick a different career.
If your system fucks up that easily, they shouldn't just pull the rug from you, but then kick you in the face for good measure.
Fonts and the presence of them have been completely unreliable in rendering since the world wide web's inception. If it breaks due to a font change then fire your web developer.
And security patches having nothing to do with updates? On average, Apple supports their phones longer than Android.
You're not understanding the difference between updates and security patches. They have nothing to do with each other. Just because your Ancient Galaxy S5 didn't get Orea, or Nougat, or maybe you didn't chose to install Marshmallow doesn't mean that it isn't supported due to the difference between security level patching and the version of the OS.
With Apple, you're either running the latest or you're out of support. Apple support their hardware with core OS releases longer, but security wise there's little separating the companies with Google providing security patching all the way back to the original release which separated security from feature updates.
That's because on iOS, more users will be on the latest shiny OS than on Android
Exactly my point.
And 4.4 security updates stopped as of October. 5 updates will stop soon enough.
Got a cite for that? I couldn't find anything on the topic that said that Google won't update the security patch level on 4.4 going forward.
If you're an iOS developer, you can target iOS 11 for your apps because a good chunk of the population will be using it. If you're an Android developer, targeting Oreo will net you a minuscule part of the Android userbase. You'd want to target Android 6 or so to capture the majority of Android users.
Targetting? What are you talking about. The API levels have changed so little in the past 3+ years. A vast majority of new features do not affect core functionality. The backwards compatibility of Android APIs is one of its best selling points to developers. You can target API level 26 and implement all the latest and greatest without having the core functionality lost in earlier versions. I think the last time something of note to developers was introduced was API level 23 which introduced native support for fingerprint readers.
In short, as a developer if you're caring about targetting the latest API level for some core functionality consider your product incredibly niche and don't bet on getting rich.
Take (for example) Google's newfound habit of "updating" their webfonts. How many layouts have they broken in the process? Millions.
If your website breaks because the font changes then it's not Google who deserves to be tared and feathered, but the web designer.
Apple has one major release stream. Android have several with security updates backported back to version 4.4.
There is more of a requirement to run the latest shiny for iOS, whereas in Android the requirement is not there and the shiny is reserved for customers paying for updated devices.
Please don't confuse your inability to comprehend english with some technical matters.
Or maybe you do comprehend english including the link you sent me, and just happened to be off your pills when you read them. Or are the government spy satellites not aligned correctly to keep you in check?
Yeah, why are Apple users overs with upgrades? No seriously comparing mobile systems to desktop OSes is pointless. I use the OS that comes with the device. There's nothing my windows 7 machine can't do that Windows 10 can in the day to day activities. I also don't upgrade it every 2 years.
I'll upgrade when I need to, not because I have an obsession.
Probably it can be. The larger an unmanageable database of other's stuff the more likely it is your data is not findable for anything other than specific targeted and searchable attacks.
Would I put ideas on Google docs? Absolutely.
Would I put bank numbers and credit card info? Hell no.
Nonfree software is never trustworthy
Ooooh so close. You made it through the entire paragraph before collapsing with your logical fallacy right in the following sentence.
You don't seem to understand the word "trust". You don't "trust" free (by that I assume you mean open source) software. By its nature if you trusted it you won't be wanting to see the source.
Ultimately what you're saying is that nothing is for you trust worthy, especially not the free software you are so happy to be able to audit.
but ask yourself, why is it closed source yet using an open source core?
That arguement isn't on shaky ground, only because it has sunk and drowned in quicksand. Like WTF? You may as well say "but yes the sky is blue so it proves that Trump was actually the second shooter behind the grassy knoll". The two have as much to do with the use of open source in closed source, and both have equally as much to do with the security of some code shipped by a private company.
And why would you put something like "DRM" in something at that low and dangerous level.
Because that's the only place it has a hope in hell of working? Or have you not paid attention to the many years of DRM developments, TPM, encryption at a hardware level etc.
Never confuse statements
Good advice.
We've had evidence leaked that proved government intentions to hook into all system domestic and foreign through hacks in software and hardware.
Clearly you're a government spy trying to run a false flag operation here. Nice try. We have evidence leaked that proved government intentions to hook into all system domestic and foreign.
Do you know of a BIOS that runs when the computer is off?
Was this an attempt at a joke? The answer to this question is: All of them since the days of ATX and if you were a corporate customer it predates this too.